Re: need help/advice with test results please

[Guest guest]

Your symptoms match with adrenal insufficiency and hypothyroid.

- light sensitivity

- smell sensitivity

- taste sensitivity

- sound sensitivity

These are probably being caused by a high level of epinephrine

(adrenaline). Cortisol and epinephrine balance with each other, if

cortisol is low, epinephrine can shoot way up and cause senses to

become much more sensitive. Natural gave us this to help us get away

from danger.

Difficulty swallowing might be from your thyroid swelling. Also if

you get food caught behind your sternum, it is likely your thymus

gland has enlarged. Eating slower and smaller bites can help.

Your testosterone may be ok (first test listed), but your TSH of .9

(assuming you hadn't started thyroid treatment yet) is to low. 2 is

what you want. I don't know what the deal is with your other TSH

test. You need the free T3 tested too, T3 uptake and total T3 that

you had aren't worth much.

Your ferritin is to low, is very likely your iron is low. It is

important to treat low iron or your won't be successful treating your

thyroid.

Your cortisol is way to low for AM, upper 20's or even into the 30's

is what you want. You need to ask for acth stim and acth serum test.

Also ask for aldosterone and renin since you can't handle the heat,

especially if you crave salt and sweat alot and get dehyrdated.

Your DHEA is obviously to low. That you have low DHEA and not high

and your TSH is low, makes me suspect you have pituitary issues.

E2 Estradiol -- 12

PI - Progesterone -- 49

TTF - Free Testosterone -- 16

What are the ranges for these? You need to ask for LH and FSH as

well. You may be secondary hypogonad.

Igf-1 is another test consider getting (pretest for growth hormone).

Take care,

Chris

>

> this is more directed at since I have already received a

response from Val on the

> stopthethyroidmadness site:

>

>

>

> my symptoms include:

>

> - dizziness

> - nauseau

> - vertigo

> - pressure in each ear - sometimes both ears, sometimes one side

> - headaches

> - light sensitivity

> - smell sensitivity

> - taste sensitivity

> - sound sensitivity

> - chronic depression/anxiety

> - complete lack of appetite

> - difficulty swallowing

> - cold sweats

> - hot flashes

> - chronic fatigue

> - low/no stamina

> - no energy

> - cold hands and feet

> - no tolerance to heat/humidity outside

> - constipation

> - dehydration

> - unable to focus/concentrate mentally

> - unable to sleep/waking up constantly during the night

> - Exhaustion in every dimension–physical, mental, spiritual, emotional

> - Inability to stand on feet for long periods

> - Complete lack of motivation

> - Extremely crabby, irritable, intolerant of others

> - some symptoms get worse when I try to eat " normal " food

> - weight loss - this past week I lost 10 lbs in 6 days, last week I

lost 2 lbs over 7 days

> (between Dr visits), the week before I lost 2 lbs over 7 days, and

the week before that I lost

> 4 lbs over 7 days - in total, I have lost almost 25 lbs over the

past 45 days....

>

> etc...

>

> all of this started in late May and have slowly gotten worse and

worse over the past 2

> months

>

> here are all the results I have so far:

>

>

> Vit B12............. 374 ..... 180-914 pg/mL

> Testost............. 5.25 ..... 1.68-7.46 ng/mL

> TSH.................. 0.90 ..... 0.30-5.00 uIU/mL

> Cortisol............. 8.1 ..... 6.7-22.6 ug/dL AM <10.0 ug/dL PM

> Thyroxine FREE.. 1.1 ..... 0.7-1.9 ng/dL

> T3 UP.................. 26.9 ..... 23.0-35.0 %

> T3.................. 134.8 ..... 79.0-149.0 ng/dL

> Thyroglobulin Autoantib ..... 23 ..... <60 U/mL

> Ferritin.................. 48.2 ..... 23.9-336.2 ng/mL

> Creatin Kinase........ 89 ..... 55-170 IU/L

> Protein Total Serum is 6.5 .... 6.3-8.2 g/dL

> Albumin 4.0 .... 3.5-5.0g/dL

> A/G Ratio 1.6 ... (no scale given)

>

>

> just received the canaryclub test results:

>

> Free Cortisol

> 7-8 am -- 1 -- depressed -- 13-24nM

> noon ----- 2 -- depressed -- 5-10nM

> 4-5 pm -- 2 -- depressed -- 3-8 nM

> midnight - 2 - normal ------ 1-4nM

>

> Cortisol Burden - 7 ---------- .23 - 42

>

> DHEA

> Dehydroepiandrosterone - 1 - depressed DHEA - adult (M/F) 3-10 ng/ml

>

> fTSH Thyroid stimulating hormone -- 447 - high -- high 86-120 nlU/ml

> fT4 L0Thyroxine - 0.31 normal -- 0.17-0.42 ng/dl

> fT3 Triiodo-thyronine - 0.25 borderline low - low 0.32-0.27

pg/ml/norm 0.28-1.10 pg/

> ml

> TPO Thyroid Microsomal Ab, SIgA -- negative - norml: negative

>

> E2 Estradiol -- 12

> PI - Progesterone -- 49

> TTF - Free Testosterone -- 16

>

[Guest guest]

I've never seen a TSH that high. Did I read it correctly - 447? If you are

losing weight with a TSH that high, I would be interested in your eventually

diagnosis. I think said he suspected a pituitary issue.

Feel better.

SB

Jeff wrote:

this is more directed at since I have already received a

response from Val on the

stopthethyroidmadness site:

my symptoms include:

- dizziness

- nauseau

- vertigo

- pressure in each ear - sometimes both ears, sometimes one side

- headaches

- light sensitivity

- smell sensitivity

- taste sensitivity

- sound sensitivity

- chronic depression/anxiety

- complete lack of appetite

- difficulty swallowing

- cold sweats

- hot flashes

- chronic fatigue

- low/no stamina

- no energy

- cold hands and feet

- no tolerance to heat/humidity outside

- constipation

- dehydration

- unable to focus/concentrate mentally

- unable to sleep/waking up constantly during the night

- Exhaustion in every dimension–physical, mental, spiritual, emotional

- Inability to stand on feet for long periods

- Complete lack of motivation

- Extremely crabby, irritable, intolerant of others

- some symptoms get worse when I try to eat " normal " food

- weight loss - this past week I lost 10 lbs in 6 days, last week I lost 2 lbs

over 7 days

(between Dr visits), the week before I lost 2 lbs over 7 days, and the week

before that I lost

4 lbs over 7 days - in total, I have lost almost 25 lbs over the past 45

days....

etc...

all of this started in late May and have slowly gotten worse and worse over the

past 2

months

here are all the results I have so far:

Vit B12............. 374 ..... 180-914 pg/mL

Testost............. 5.25 ..... 1.68-7.46 ng/mL

TSH.................. 0.90 ..... 0.30-5.00 uIU/mL

Cortisol............. 8.1 ..... 6.7-22.6 ug/dL AM <10.0 ug/dL PM

Thyroxine FREE.. 1.1 ..... 0.7-1.9 ng/dL

T3 UP.................. 26.9 ..... 23.0-35.0 %

T3.................. 134.8 ..... 79.0-149.0 ng/dL

Thyroglobulin Autoantib ..... 23 ..... <60 U/mL

Ferritin.................. 48.2 ..... 23.9-336.2 ng/mL

Creatin Kinase........ 89 ..... 55-170 IU/L

Protein Total Serum is 6.5 .... 6.3-8.2 g/dL

Albumin 4.0 .... 3.5-5.0g/dL

A/G Ratio 1.6 ... (no scale given)

just received the canaryclub test results:

Free Cortisol

7-8 am -- 1 -- depressed -- 13-24nM

noon ----- 2 -- depressed -- 5-10nM

4-5 pm -- 2 -- depressed -- 3-8 nM

midnight - 2 - normal ------ 1-4nM

Cortisol Burden - 7 ---------- .23 - 42

DHEA

Dehydroepiandrosterone - 1 - depressed DHEA - adult (M/F) 3-10 ng/ml

fTSH Thyroid stimulating hormone -- 447 - high -- high 86-120 nlU/ml

fT4 L0Thyroxine - 0.31 normal -- 0.17-0.42 ng/dl

fT3 Triiodo-thyronine - 0.25 borderline low - low 0.32-0.27 pg/ml/norm 0.28-1.10

pg/

ml

TPO Thyroid Microsomal Ab, SIgA -- negative - norml: negative

E2 Estradiol -- 12

PI - Progesterone -- 49

TTF - Free Testosterone -- 16

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[Guest guest]

>>I've never seen a TSH that high. Did I read it correctly - 447? If you are

losing weight with a TSH that high,<<

Really bad adrenals will make people lose weight no matter their thyroid status.

This is why folks can be thin and hypo at the same time.

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Yeah I know... I never lost weight even with weak adrenals, but it is

coming off slowly now!

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[Guest guest]

well why didn't I get that type of problem! damn!!!!! haha.

but really, i can't lose weight unless i eat well under 1000 calories. 1800

calories/1500 calories/1200 calories with proper diet and cardio and weights

doesn't do much at all.

wrote:

>>I've never seen a TSH that high. Did I read it correctly - 447? If

you are losing weight with a TSH that high,<<

Really bad adrenals will make people lose weight no matter their thyroid status.

This is why folks can be thin and hypo at the same time.

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My Ebay Jewelry Store http://stores.ebay.com/valeriescrystalcreations

The BEST thyroid website! http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

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[Guest guest]

>

> Your symptoms match with adrenal insufficiency and hypothyroid.

>

> - light sensitivity

> - smell sensitivity

> - taste sensitivity

> - sound sensitivity

>

> These are probably being caused by a high level of epinephrine

> (adrenaline). Cortisol and epinephrine balance with each other, if

> cortisol is low, epinephrine can shoot way up and cause senses to

> become much more sensitive. Natural gave us this to help us get away

> from danger.

>

> Difficulty swallowing might be from your thyroid swelling. Also if

> you get food caught behind your sternum, it is likely your thymus

> gland has enlarged. Eating slower and smaller bites can help.

>

> Your testosterone may be ok (first test listed), but your TSH of .9

> (assuming you hadn't started thyroid treatment yet) is to low. 2 is

> what you want. I don't know what the deal is with your other TSH

> test. You need the free T3 tested too, T3 uptake and total T3 that

> you had aren't worth much.

>

> Your ferritin is to low, is very likely your iron is low. It is

> important to treat low iron or your won't be successful treating your

> thyroid.

>

> Your cortisol is way to low for AM, upper 20's or even into the 30's

> is what you want. You need to ask for acth stim and acth serum test.

> Also ask for aldosterone and renin since you can't handle the heat,

> especially if you crave salt and sweat alot and get dehyrdated.

>

> Your DHEA is obviously to low. That you have low DHEA and not high

> and your TSH is low, makes me suspect you have pituitary issues.

>

> E2 Estradiol -- 12

> PI - Progesterone -- 49

> TTF - Free Testosterone -- 16

>

> What are the ranges for these? You need to ask for LH and FSH as

> well. You may be secondary hypogonad.

>

> Igf-1 is another test consider getting (pretest for growth hormone).

>

> Take care,

>

> Chris

>

>

> >

Chris

thanks for the feedback

I do have intolerance to heat and I do start sweating and it takes a long time

to stop (even

trying to sit in a tub of cold water....)

so in reading things, are these the additional tests that I should get done:

1 - aldosterone

2 - renin

3 -CRH

4 -ACTH

5 -ACTH Stim test

6- Adrenocortical hormone tests

7- Dexamethasone

8- rapid Cosyntropin stimulation test

9- FREE T3

10 - epinephrine/adrenaline

11 - LH

12 - FSH

13 - Igf-1

14 - acth serum test

there were no scales listed for the test results:

> E2 Estradiol -- 12

> PI - Progesterone -- 49

> TTF - Free Testosterone -- 16

[Guest guest]

I know a few people who are envious of my weight loss, and I dont need to lose

weight...

if that wasw my only problem... well, you can figure out the rest

and yes, the fTSH is 447 on a scale of 20-120 nlU/ml (saliva test)

> >>I've never seen a TSH that high. Did I read it correctly - 447? If

you are losing

weight with a TSH that high,<<

>

> Really bad adrenals will make people lose weight no matter their thyroid

status. This is

why folks can be thin and hypo at the same time.

>

> --

> Artistic Grooming * Hurricane, WV

> My Ebay Jewelry Store http://stores.ebay.com/valeriescrystalcreations

> The BEST thyroid website! http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com

> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

>

>

>

>

>

>

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>

[Guest guest]

You're welcome. I put an asterix next to the tests you don't need

listed in your reply below.

Chris

> thanks for the feedback

>

> I do have intolerance to heat and I do start sweating and it takes a

long time to stop (even

> trying to sit in a tub of cold water....)

>

>

> so in reading things, are these the additional tests that I should

get done:

>

> 1 - aldosterone

> 2 - renin

> 3 -*CRH

> 4 -*ACTH (see number 14)

> 5 -ACTH Stim test

> 6- Adrenocortical hormone tests

> 7- *Dexamethasone suppression test

> 8- *rapid Cosyntropin stimulation test

> 9- FREE T3

> 10 - *epinephrine/adrenaline

> 11 - LH

> 12 - FSH

> 13 - Igf-1

> 14 - acth serum test

>

>

> there were no scales listed for the test results:

> > E2 Estradiol -- 12

> > PI - Progesterone -- 49

> > TTF - Free Testosterone -- 16

>

[Guest guest]

I went to see my GP yesterday and he did the following tests:

> 1 - aldosterone

> 2 - renin

> 3 -*CRH

> 6- Adrenocortical hormone tests

> 9- FREE T3

> 11 - LH

> 12 - FSH

> 13 - Igf-1

> 14 - acth serum test

he said he cant do any of the stim/suppresion tests since he doest have the

stuff to do

them, but he is giving me the names of a couple of Endo's that can do them

I will post the results of the above tests when I get them

thanks

jeff

>

> You're welcome. I put an asterix next to the tests you don't need

> listed in your reply below.

>

> Chris

>

>

> > thanks for the feedback

> >

> > I do have intolerance to heat and I do start sweating and it takes a

> long time to stop (even

> > trying to sit in a tub of cold water....)

> >

> >

> > so in reading things, are these the additional tests that I should

> get done:

> >

> > 1 - aldosterone

> > 2 - renin

> > 3 -*CRH

> > 4 -*ACTH (see number 14)

> > 5 -ACTH Stim test

> > 6- Adrenocortical hormone tests

> > 7- *Dexamethasone suppression test

> > 8- *rapid Cosyntropin stimulation test

> > 9- FREE T3

> > 10 - *epinephrine/adrenaline

> > 11 - LH

> > 12 - FSH

> > 13 - Igf-1

> > 14 - acth serum test

> >

> >

> > there were no scales listed for the test results:

> > > E2 Estradiol -- 12

> > > PI - Progesterone -- 49

> > > TTF - Free Testosterone -- 16

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I went to see my GP yesterday and he did the following tests:

> 1 - aldosterone

> 2 - renin

> 3 -*CRH

> 6- Adrenocortical hormone tests

> 9- FREE T3

> 11 - LH

> 12 - FSH

> 13 - Igf-1

> 14 - acth serum test

he said he cant do any of the stim/suppresion tests since he doest have the

stuff to do

them, but he is giving me the names of a couple of Endo's that can do them

I will post the results of the above tests when I get them

thanks

jeff

>

> You're welcome. I put an asterix next to the tests you don't need

> listed in your reply below.

>

> Chris

>

>

> > thanks for the feedback

> >

> > I do have intolerance to heat and I do start sweating and it takes a

> long time to stop (even

> > trying to sit in a tub of cold water....)

> >

> >

> > so in reading things, are these the additional tests that I should

> get done:

> >

> > 1 - aldosterone

> > 2 - renin

> > 3 -*CRH

> > 4 -*ACTH (see number 14)

> > 5 -ACTH Stim test

> > 6- Adrenocortical hormone tests

> > 7- *Dexamethasone suppression test

> > 8- *rapid Cosyntropin stimulation test

> > 9- FREE T3

> > 10 - *epinephrine/adrenaline

> > 11 - LH

> > 12 - FSH

> > 13 - Igf-1

> > 14 - acth serum test

> >

> >

> > there were no scales listed for the test results:

> > > E2 Estradiol -- 12

> > > PI - Progesterone -- 49

> > > TTF - Free Testosterone -- 16

> >

>