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Besides heart palpations, are there any cardiac effects anyone here has experienced? I am out of breath on very little exertion (unless I have had a hyperbaric chamber treatment that day, which I cannot afford to do daily ). I had a stress test but the doc said it was normal for my age but would not say what is optimal for my age, particularly in light of my past athletic years.

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Could be but my temp was 98.4 with only 15mg of armour. I am one of those up and down people. I think that I'm dumping alot of hg---my eyes are puffy, etc.

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I have had breathlessness, couldn't even wash my hair without putting my

arms down to catch my breath, and Congestive Heart Failure. Both were

severe hypo symptoms, and both are gone entirely now.

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Oh yes, I get those, they have been adrenal symptoms for me.

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Re: HIGH or LOW CORTISOL

Hi Val,

Could be but my temp was 98.4 with only 15mg of armour. I am one of those up and down people. I think that I'm dumping alot of hg---my eyes are puffy, etc.

T wrote:

Crying is most likely low thyroid.-- Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV My Ebay Jewelry Store http://stores.ebay.com/valeriescrystalcreations http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

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It seems to occur in the mornings and in the afternoon I am better. Then I poop out early evening. Not much energy window.

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I have had breathlessness, couldn't even wash my hair without putting my arms down to catch my breath, and Congestive Heart Failure. Both were severe hypo symptoms, and both are gone entirely now.-- Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV My Ebay Jewelry Store http://stores.ebay.com/valeriescrystalcreations http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

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Most likely still low thyroid. You have a small window of improvement as

that is most likely when the T3 may be helping you a bit, but you dont;

have enough to last.

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So the cortisol and thyroid resolved these symptoms?

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Oh yes, I get those, they have been adrenal symptoms for me.

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Re: HIGH or LOW CORTISOL

Hi Val,

Could be but my temp was 98.4 with only 15mg of armour. I am one of those up and down people. I think that I'm dumping alot of hg---my eyes are puffy, etc.

T wrote:

Crying is most likely low thyroid.-- Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV My Ebay Jewelry Store http://stores.ebay.com/valeriescrystalcreations http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

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Actually most those symptoms resolved on Thyroid alone. But I had NO

energy for anything even though I felt healthier. the Cortisol has

resolved much of the energy issues. but now I need some DRIVE.. It takes

a lead foot in my butt to clean my house. I go NO where, ever..

Shopping, work home, that';s my life, so something is still not QUITE

right but some of it is just habit from so many years of couldn't do

anything.

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I was on T3 before and I feel no different. It has been the same for months. Whether I was on high T3 or no T3 or whether I was on cortisol or not.

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Most likely still low thyroid. You have a small window of improvement as that is most likely when the T3 may be helping you a bit, but you dont; have enough to last.-- Artistic Grooming * Hurricane, WVMy Ebay Jewelry Store http://stores.ebay.com/valeriescrystalcreations The BEST thyroid website! http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

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But to utilize the T3 properly you need the OTHER thyroid hormones. I

have to tell you this, I was real stupid this week and thought I had

more T3 than I did have.I ran out.. So I am taking some T2 I had bought

months ago in it's place (I take T3 with Armour as I have low T3 levels

otherwise) and I can tell you the T2 has ALOT of metabolic activity! It

does not repair tissue like T3 does so I am in pain. I have very sore

shoulders and back and had headaches the last 2 days I am sure from low

T3, but I have not been falling asleep standing up or even watching TV

which was my habits before when I took Armour alone. So the T2 is

accomplishing that for me. Anyway just a note for taking ALL the thyroid

hormones that our own thyroid would produce. They really don;t have a

clue what T2 and T1 actually do! I am getting a first hand lesson!

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Artistic Grooming * Hurricane, WV

My Ebay Jewelry Store http://stores.ebay.com/valeriescrystalcreations

The BEST thyroid website! http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

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I sent a link of Richie Shoemaker's work. His neurtoxin theory also involves thyroid and adrenal problems. I did take the neurotoxin test and failed it.

Well I decided that I am taking my cortisol too late in the day. I will set my alarm and take it early in the morning and then go back to sleep for a few hours and see if that helps.

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But to utilize the T3 properly you need the OTHER thyroid hormones. I have to tell you this, I was real stupid this week and thought I had more T3 than I did have.I ran out.. So I am taking some T2 I had bought months ago in it's place (I take T3 with Armour as I have low T3 levels otherwise) and I can tell you the T2 has ALOT of metabolic activity! It does not repair tissue like T3 does so I am in pain. I have very sore shoulders and back and had headaches the last 2 days I am sure from low T3, but I have not been falling asleep standing up or even watching TV which was my habits before when I took Armour alone. So the T2 is accomplishing that for me. Anyway just a note for taking ALL the thyroid hormones that our own thyroid would produce. They really don;t have a clue what T2 and T1 actually do! I am getting a first hand lesson!-- Artistic Grooming * Hurricane, WVMy Ebay Jewelry Store http://stores.ebay.com/valeriescrystalcreations The BEST thyroid website! http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

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Mostly, I'm still not 100% yet, but I'm TONS better, Ican at least function now.

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So the cortisol and thyroid resolved these symptoms?

From: C. Mannelli, Ed.D.

To: NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS

Sent: Saturday, May 20, 2006 3:22 PM

Subject: Re: heart

Besides heart palpations, are there any cardiac effects anyone here has experienced? I am out of breath on very little exertion (unless I have had a hyperbaric chamber treatment that day, which I cannot afford to do daily ). I had a stress test but the doc said it was normal for my age but would not say what is optimal for my age, particularly in light of my past athletic years.

-- Re: HIGH or LOW CORTISOL

Hi Val,

Could be but my temp was 98.4 with only 15mg of armour. I am one of those up and down people. I think that I'm dumping alot of hg---my eyes are puffy, etc.

T wrote:

Crying is most likely low thyroid.-- Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV My Ebay Jewelry Store http://stores.ebay.com/valeriescrystalcreations http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

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