Liver Flush & mercury

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Shirley-

I was diagnosed as having FMS/CFS in 1994. I've been using guaifenisen for

the FMS, and head great improvement, but still had a lot of health issues

that were not getting any better or had plateaued.

My doctor tested me for heavy metals and found my mercury levels were off

the chart. He suggested I have my mercury amalgams removed and my root

canal pulled by a dentist familiar with the appropriate techniques. I did

this over a period of months. I felt sick after each replacement (we did a

quadrant at a time) and then much better some time later. Pulling the root

canal was a big lift in terms of the fog, alone.

My levels are still high even though we have removed the source of the

poisoning. He wanted me to detox with chelation, either IV or oral, but I

get so sick when he even tests me that I was not willing to risk it. My

concern is that he may free up mercury buried in my tissues but I may not be

able to move it out, so I'l only feel worse.

So how to get the mercury out?

What I decided to do was to cleanse my kidneys first (parsley juice, herbs,

I can look it up for you if interested) and then use the Hulda e flush

for my liver and gallbladder (www.drclark.com).

After four flushes, I am still getting huge stones out, some that clearly

are smashed together in the shape of a bile duct, leading me to believe my

liver is totally clogged. Since your liver is what filters out the toxins

in your body, a clogged one clearly is not up to the task. Imagine if you

never took out the trash at home...eeeeek! Not a pretty picture. No wonder

I feel so bad.

After each flush I am tired for a day and then get a huge energy boost. My

hair, nails and skin are much improved. My varicose veins are fading. My

fog is manageable and improving.

To help my body take out the huge backload of trash (continuing the

metaphor) that must be accumulating even inside my cells at this point, I

take undenatured whey whch I get at www.needs.com. I take two teaspoonfulls

in room-temperature filtered water first thing in the am, and wait about an

hour to eat afterward. I keep trying to up the whey until I can get to two

tablespoonfuls, which is what my doctor wants. It's hard to work up because

if you get too much, you can really feel either wired or slammed.

Doing this has made a dramatic difference in my fatigue levels. I sleep

reasonably well at night most of the time. I can go to work, come home,

cook dinner and spend some time wih my son before doing the dishes and going

to bed. Only a year ago, it was work-home-eat-bed, most of the eating done

on a paper towel so that dishes didn't accumulate. Now I can actually

prepare FOOD.

This is probably more info than you wanted, but I think I have to be clear

on what I've done, in what sequence, and why.

And I have to be clear that I think mercury is only part of the problem,

perhaps a symptom rather than a cause (don't care to argue), but a serious

matter in any event and something that has to be addressed if you have or

have had amalgams or root canals.

Best wishes for good health!

Hugs, Roseanna in NoCal; FMS/CFS always; hypothyroid (cytomel) 8/73, HG diet

3/99, wheat-free 3/99, guai/robinul 8/99, whey 1/2 Tbsp 04/01, amalgams out

6/01, 4 liver cleanses; caffeine-free 09/01

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I'd just like to add about the mercury. It's

important to be tested. I have a mouthful of fillings

and after reading the posts was convinced this was

part of my problem. I was going to have my fillings

removed. However, I have attended Dr. Majid Ali's

clinic in NJ and he did a toxic metal test and my

mercury levels were low.

My blood oxzygenisation levels were out of whack

though (2 doctors have confirmed this) and that's what

we're trying to fix now.

I really think the problem with many people is that

their bodies are too acidic. I know I have a problem

with sugar, caffeine, chocolate, dairy products. Dr.

Ali also did a food allergy test and all the above

were the foods I should avoid along with anything with

yeast. It's important to avoid acid forming foods.

Margaret

--- Roseanna Conlon

wrote:

> Shirley-

>

> I was diagnosed as having FMS/CFS in 1994. I've

> been using guaifenisen for

> the FMS, and head great improvement, but still had a

> lot of health issues

> that were not getting any better or had plateaued.

>

> My doctor tested me for heavy metals and found my

> mercury levels were off

> the chart. He suggested I have my mercury amalgams

> removed and my root

> canal pulled by a dentist familiar with the

> appropriate techniques. I did

> this over a period of months. I felt sick after

> each replacement (we did a

> quadrant at a time) and then much better some time

> later. Pulling the root

> canal was a big lift in terms of the fog, alone.

>

> My levels are still high even though we have removed

> the source of the

> poisoning. He wanted me to detox with chelation,

> either IV or oral, but I

> get so sick when he even tests me that I was not

> willing to risk it. My

> concern is that he may free up mercury buried in my

> tissues but I may not be

> able to move it out, so I'l only feel worse.

>

> So how to get the mercury out?

>

> What I decided to do was to cleanse my kidneys first

> (parsley juice, herbs,

> I can look it up for you if interested) and then use

> the Hulda e flush

> for my liver and gallbladder (www.drclark.com).

>

> After four flushes, I am still getting huge stones

> out, some that clearly

> are smashed together in the shape of a bile duct,

> leading me to believe my

> liver is totally clogged. Since your liver is what

> filters out the toxins

> in your body, a clogged one clearly is not up to the

> task. Imagine if you

> never took out the trash at home...eeeeek! Not a

> pretty picture. No wonder

> I feel so bad.

>

> After each flush I am tired for a day and then get a

> huge energy boost. My

> hair, nails and skin are much improved. My varicose

> veins are fading. My

> fog is manageable and improving.

>

> To help my body take out the huge backload of trash

> (continuing the

> metaphor) that must be accumulating even inside my

> cells at this point, I

> take undenatured whey whch I get at www.needs.com.

> I take two teaspoonfulls

> in room-temperature filtered water first thing in

> the am, and wait about an

> hour to eat afterward. I keep trying to up the whey

> until I can get to two

> tablespoonfuls, which is what my doctor wants. It's

> hard to work up because

> if you get too much, you can really feel either

> wired or slammed.

>

> Doing this has made a dramatic difference in my

> fatigue levels. I sleep

> reasonably well at night most of the time. I can go

> to work, come home,

> cook dinner and spend some time wih my son before

> doing the dishes and going

> to bed. Only a year ago, it was work-home-eat-bed,

> most of the eating done

> on a paper towel so that dishes didn't accumulate.

> Now I can actually

> prepare FOOD.

>

> This is probably more info than you wanted, but I

> think I have to be clear

> on what I've done, in what sequence, and why.

>

> And I have to be clear that I think mercury is only

> part of the problem,

> perhaps a symptom rather than a cause (don't care to

> argue), but a serious

> matter in any event and something that has to be

> addressed if you have or

> have had amalgams or root canals.

>

> Best wishes for good health!

>

> Hugs, Roseanna in NoCal; FMS/CFS always; hypothyroid

> (cytomel) 8/73, HG diet

> 3/99, wheat-free 3/99, guai/robinul 8/99, whey 1/2

> Tbsp 04/01, amalgams out

> 6/01, 4 liver cleanses; caffeine-free 09/01

>

>

>

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Margaret,

I agree! I had my mercury tested, and... nope, not a

problem. (Which is always good news.)

I'm FINALLY feeling better!! I've been working with a

nutritionist, and I'm way low on zinc and my PH is

severely out of whack. Just taking a zinc assay

(liquid supplement) and switching to an alkaline diet

is a huge help.

Of course I will be adding other things to, as we work

on root causes.

Best,

Diane

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What is the difference between cytomel and L tyrosine?

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cytomel is a prescription thyroid replacement hormone. the other is an

amino acid, I beleive.

Hugs, Roseanna in NoCal; FMS/CFS always; hypothyroid (cytomel) 8/73, HG diet

3/99, wheat-free 3/99, guai/robinul 8/99, whey 1/2 Tbsp 04/01, amalgams out

6/01, 4 liver cleanses; caffeine-free 09/01

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I use undenatured whey, called Immunepro, I buy from www.needs.com. It's

not something you'd put in a shake. It stimulates your liver to produce

glutathione to help detox heavy metals and whatever other toxins you are

challenged with. I take 1/2 Tbsp a day, that's a lot for me, I can really

feel it.

Yes, it's good to be amalgam-free before doing the cleanse, but cleansing

alone is fine if you are not amalgam-free. The cleanse will remove the

physical obstructions in your bile ducts (stones) that keep your bile from

flowing freely. This can only help, amalgams or no.

Hope this info helps you.

Hugs, Roseanna in NoCal; FMS/CFS always; hypothyroid (cytomel) 8/73, HG diet

3/99, wheat-free 3/99, guai/robinul 8/99, whey 1/2 Tbsp 04/01, amalgams out

6/01, 4 liver cleanses; caffeine-free 09/01

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No. the liver flushes aer NOT the same as colonics and they are cheap AND

you can do them easily at home with no special equipment. Did another this

Friday and feel GREAT today!

Hugs, Roseanna in NoCal; FMS/CFS always; hypothyroid (cytomel) 8/73, HG diet

3/99, wheat-free 3/99, guai/robinul 8/99, whey 1/2 Tbsp 04/01, amalgams out

6/01, 4 liver cleanses; caffeine-free 09/01

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how do you do liver and kidney flushes??

[Guest guest]

Liver Cleanse from Hulda e's website

(http://www.drclark.net/info/liver.htm):

" Ingredients

Epsom salts: 4 tablespoons

Olive oil: half cup (light olive oil is easier to get down), and for best

results, ozonate it for 20 minutes. Add 2 drops HCl.

Fresh pink grapefruit: 1 large or 2 small, enough to squeeze 2/3 cup juice.

Hot wash twice first and dry each time.

Ornithine: 4 to 8, to be sure you can sleep. Don’t skip this or you may have

the worst night of your life!

Large plastic straw: to help drink potion.

Pint jar with lid

Black Walnut Tincture, any strength: 10 to 20 drops, to kill parasites

coming from the liver.

Choose a day like Saturday for the cleanse, since you will be able to rest

the next day. Take no medicines, vitamins or pills that you can do without;

they could prevent success. Stop the parasite program and kidney herbs, too,

the day before. Eat a no-fat breakfast and lunch such as cooked cereal,

fruit, fruit juice, bread and preserves or honey (no butter or milk). This

allows the bile to build up and develop pressure in the liver. Higher

pressure pushes out more stones.

2:00 PM. Do not eat or drink after 2 o'clock. If you break this rule you

could feel quite ill later. Get your Epsom salts ready. Mix 4 tbs. in 3 cups

water and pour this into a jar. This makes four servings, ¾ cup each. Set

the jar in the refrigerator to get ice cold (this is for convenience and

taste only).

6:00 PM. Drink one serving (¾ cup) of the ice cold Epsom salts. If you did

not prepare this ahead of time, mix 1 tbs. in ¾ cup water now. You may add

1/8 tsp. vitamin C powder to improve the taste. You may also drink a few

mouthfuls of water afterwards or rinse your mouth. Get the olive oil

(ozonated, if possible) and grapefruit out to warm up.

8:00 PM. Repeat by drinking another ¾ cup of Epsom salts.You haven't eaten

since two o'clock, but you won't feel hungry. Get your bedtime chores done.

The timing is critical for success.

9:45 PM. Pour ½ cup (measured) olive oil into the pint jar. Add 2 drops HCl

to sterilize. Wash grapefruit twice in hot water and dry; squeeze by hand

into the measuring cup. Remove pulp with fork. You should have at least ½

cup, more (up to ¾ cup) is best. You may use part lemonade. Add this to the

olive oil. Also add Black Walnut Tincture. Close the jar tightly with the

lid and shake hard until watery (only fresh grapefruit juice does this).

Now visit the bathroom one or more time, even if it makes you late for your

ten o'clock drink. Don't be more than 15 minutes late. You will get fewer

stones.

10:00 PM. Drink the potion you have mixed. Take 4 ornithine capsules with

the first sips to make sure you will sleep through the night. Take 8 if you

already suffer from insomnia. Drinking through a large plastic straw helps

it go down easier. You may use oil and vinegar salad dressing, or straight

honey to chase it down between sips. Have these ready in a tablespoon on the

kitchen counter. Take it all to your bedside if you want, but drink it

standing up. Get it down within 5 minutes (fifteen minutes for very elderly

or weak persons).

Lie down immediately. You might fail to get stones out if you don't. The

sooner you lie down the more stones you will get out. Be ready for bed ahead

of time. Don't clean up the kitchen. As soon as the drink is down walk to

your bed and lie down flat on your back with your head up high on the

pillow. Try to think about what is happening in the liver. Try to keep

perfectly still for at least 20 minutes. You may feel a train of stones

traveling along the bile ducts like marbles. There is no pain because the

bile duct valves are open (thank you Epsom salts!). Go to sleep, you may

fail to get stones out if you don't.

Next morning. Upon awakening take your third dose of Epsom salts. If you

have indigestion or nausea wait until it is gone before drinking the Epsom

salts. You may go back to bed. Don't take this potion before 6:00 am.

2 Hours Later. Take your fourth (the last) dose of Epsom salts. You may go

back to bed again.

After 2 More Hours you may eat. Start with fruit juice. Half an hour later

eat fruit. One hour later you may eat regular food but keep it light. By

supper you should feel recovered.

How well did you do? Expect diarrhea in the morning. Use a flashlight to

look for gallstones in the toilet with the bowel movement. Look for the

green kind since this is proof that they are genuine gallstones, not food

residue. Only bile from the liver is pea green. The bowel movement sinks but

gallstones float because of the cholesterol inside. Count them all roughly,

whether tan or green. You will need to total 2000 stones before the liver is

clean enough to rid you of allergies or bursitis or upper back pains

permanently. The first cleanse may rid you of them for a few days, but as

the stones from the rear travel forward, they give you the same symptoms

again. You may repeat cleanses at two week intervals. Never cleanse when you

are [acutely] ill.

Sometimes the bile ducts are full of cholesterol crystals that did not form

into round stones. They appear as a “chaff” floating on top of the toilet

bowl water. It may be tan colored, harboring millions of tiny white

crystals. Cleansing this chaff is just as important as purging stones. "

I personally fast on organic applejuice the day of to help soften the stones

and cleanse the bowel. I get boatloads of stones most of the time, but

always feel better.

Hugs, Roseanna in NoCal; FMS/CFS always; hypothyroid (cytomel) 8/73, HG diet

3/99, wheat-free 3/99, guai/robinul 8/99, whey 4 tsp daily 04/01, amalgams

out 6/01, 5 liver cleanses; caffeine-free 09/01

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Does anyone know anything about the relationship of fibromyalgia, the B7

genetic marker, (???) and rheumatod arthritis?

I tested negative for RA, but have a low-high B7 (??) rate. The Rheumy is

not that concerned about it at this point, he'll continue to try to get my

fibro under control, and if not, will head on to try to treat this ..whatever

B7 brings on. I think he (the doc) said something like " spondyloarthritis " I

just did a search, and am rather confused by this info...looks like its

mostly a pediatric problem?

Sorry, that's all I know about it at this point.

Any info would be appreciated.

thanks for trying!

gini