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In a message dated 4/28/01 12:16:33 PM Eastern Daylight Time, belowskinbeauty@... writes:

don't they show how horribly people in serious pain are treated in ER's?? Lee

Lee last year when I damaged my diaphragm I lay in agony for hours in the ER, finally I was injected with a pain reliever that was useless, They have no pity at all Anne

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I am concerned about the reports on the news lately about how "DANGEROUS" vicodin and percocet are. They are talking about banning them. Why don't they do a report on how hard it is for people in pain to get the drugs legally? Why don't they show how horribly people in serious pain are treated in ER's??

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Bertaud <fbertaud@...> wrote: Kristy, you asked what the law was in California regarding getting pain meds. Well, I no longer live in CA but I can tell you what I tell ANY doc that gives me a hard time about pain meds.The oath all doctors take when they become doctors begins, "DO NO HARM." I have quite vociferously reminded a couple doctors of their oath and stated that by choosing to leave me in pain without doing anything about it at that moment, they were doing me harm and I was not going to allow them to harm me in that way.I always got my meds, sometimes not enough of them, but I got them. Sometimes I refused to see that doctor again and more than once I refused to pay the final bill. I consider that I have FIRED that doctor and that's the only real power I have over them. THEY WORK FOR US, WE DO NOT WORK FOR THEM! Without us, the patients, doctors have nothing to do and no money for not doing it.That's how I handle it. I guess I show my combative attitude, as my past and present wives would consider it. I know I can get an attitude very quickly but I think I'm just looking out for myself and I don't let anyone deny me what it rightfully mine. If they try it, they will hear about it. And trust me,I have the temper of an angry grizzly bear when I think I'm being screwed with. It's hard to keep my temper in check at times, but I just don't like being messed with. So there.

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In a message dated 4/28/01 3:16:41 PM Eastern Daylight Time, acarpe6119@... writes:

don't they show how horribly people in serious pain are treated in ER's?? Lee

Heck no! Anne

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Lee,

That's interesting b/c I've only heard of newsreports done

on Oxycontin which is the one that I knew that they were

also possibly talking about banning.

I take Vicodin under the name of Lortab and it along with

the Ponstel as part of my pain regimen. May I ask where I

could find this report so that I can read it too? I try to

listen to the news every day and I've not heard a thing

about Vicodin and Percocet, just the Oxycontin which has

had newsreports all over the place. I know that when they

showed the story on Oxycontin here one of my friends got

real concerned b/c she has to take it for her back pain in

addition to a special salve.

I wish that they would quit trying to scare everyone. I've

never been to the ER as an adult patient to get treated for

pain but I have a friend that has. She has endometriosis

as well as problems with adhesions and other scar tissue.

When she went almost a week ago (or something to that

extent) and when the dr did the pelvic exam on her he was

quite rough with her. He said that endometriosis isn't

capable of causing the kind of pain that she was in that

nite and continued to be quite rough with her. Her husband

got very upset and explained the situation about how the

two problems are causing her a lot of pain.

The other thing that I wanted to add to this story was that

the nurse who saw her before the dr got there also didn't

help at all. She wasn't very nice either. A lady on the

board that this lady who went to the ER runs suggested that

she have her ordeal shown on public television. She also

apologized if it seemed rude. Sometimes I wish that I

could write my story and share it with the public like

that. Oh well, I'm just glad to be here to support all of

you and I thank you in return for your support.

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These were TV news reports on my local stations. I will check and see if there is anything in print.

Kristy Sokoloski <sokokl@...> wrote:

Lee,That's interesting b/c I've only heard of newsreports doneon Oxycontin which is the one that I knew that they werealso possibly talking about banning.I take Vicodin under the name of Lortab and it along withthe Ponstel as part of my pain regimen. May I ask where Icould find this report so that I can read it too? I try tolisten to the news every day and I've not heard a thingabout Vicodin and Percocet, just the Oxycontin which hashad newsreports all over the place. I know that when theyshowed the story on Oxycontin here one of my friends gotreal concerned b/c she has to take it for her back pain inaddition to a special salve.I wish that they would quit trying to scare everyone. I'venever been to the ER as an adult patient to get treated forpain but I have a friend that has. She has endometriosisas well as problems with adhesions and other scar tissue. When she went almost a week ago (or something to thatextent) and when the dr did the pelvic exam on her he wasquite rough with her. He said that endometriosis isn'tcapable of causing the kind of pain that she was in thatnite and continued to be quite rough with her. Her husbandgot very upset and explained the situation about how thetwo problems are causing her a lot of pain.The other thing that I wanted to add to this story was thatthe nurse who saw her before the dr got there also didn'thelp at all. She wasn't very nice either. A lady on theboard that this lady who went to the ER runs suggested thatshe have her ordeal shown on public television. She alsoapologized if it seemed rude. Sometimes I wish that Icould write my story and share it with the public likethat. Oh well, I'm just glad to be here to support all ofyou and I thank you in return for your support.

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NO kidding they are awful. My mom had hurt her shoulder bad. We were in

the ER for hours and they didnt want to keep giving her more meds. none

seemed to be working. She had dislocated and fractured or something along

those lines, her shoulder. :(

It was awful. And one of the nurses was so rude my mom told her off.

LOL

That was funny to watch too. :)

but we must have had been there for gosh 7 hours or more before they

finally decided what to do with her.

Melinda

At 02:38 PM 4/28/01 -0400, you wrote:

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message dated 4/28/01 12:16:33 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

belowskinbeauty@... writes:

don't they show how horribly people

in serious pain are treated in ER's??

Lee

Lee last year when I damaged my diaphragm I lay in agony for hours in the

ER,

finally I was injected with a pain reliever that was useless, They

have no

pity at all Anne

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Vent away, we all need to do it from time to time.

Lord knows, I have been venting more than my fair share lately.

Take Care,

Heidi- SAHM to 7, 4-1/2 (DSI, Apraxia) 11-1/2

months (VUR, Tort/Plagio-DOC Banded 2/14/03 and now Dx as FTT)

--- In Plagiocephaly , " sahlynn_99 " <sahlynn@h...>

wrote:

> Sorry to stert with that opening, but I am so upset at my doctor!!

I

> have trying repositioning with my daughter for her plagio. Well its

> not really working, so I need a referal to see another specialist.

So

> I called the doctors office this morning and they said I couldn't

get

> an appt. until friday. If I had called and said she had a cold or a

> ear ache she would have gotten in same day. But no she only has a

> condition that could cause her serious problems and I can't be seen

> till friday thats bull!! Just needed to vent. Sorry again.

>

>

> a (7-22-02)

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I know what you mean. Those " well-baby " appointments are hard to come

by. I can surely understand your frustration! Please let us know how

the appointment goes on Friday.

Marci (Mom to )

Oklahoma

--- In Plagiocephaly , " sahlynn_99 " <sahlynn@h...>

wrote:

> Sorry to stert with that opening, but I am so upset at my doctor!!

I

> have trying repositioning with my daughter for her plagio. Well its

> not really working, so I need a referal to see another specialist.

So

> I called the doctors office this morning and they said I couldn't

get

> an appt. until friday. If I had called and said she had a cold or a

> ear ache she would have gotten in same day. But no she only has a

> condition that could cause her serious problems and I can't be seen

> till friday thats bull!! Just needed to vent. Sorry again.

>

>

> a (7-22-02)

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