Re: Direct payments---what can they be used for?

[Guest guest]

Hello, I think you are limited in what you can use DPs for - they should have

given you info at the beginning. I don't think they can be used for therapies or

treatments but if the therapist/practitioner also works as a carer, then they

can work as a carer with your child and you can use DPs for this.And I think you

will have to give the money back if you don't spend it by the specified date -

they should have told you when this is. I know some people have managed to be

creative within limits in how the money has spent but you have to be able to

account for its being spent according to the rules. Your LA should have an

independent DPs advice service you might get some help from them.There will also

be a cap on how much you can pay someone per hour with the DPs.I think you could

get some useful advice off list from people who have successfully used DPs.(I

refused to have them because the hourly rate I was allowed to pay the workers

wasn't enough.)

Margaret

>

> Hi

>

> We have accumlated unused direct payment monies and the lea are wanting to

claw it back. We have been building up a reserve to cover extra help over the

holidays and recruitment costs etc. Im really keen to hear from anyone using

direct payments for reasonn other than domicillary care --i've heard of one

parent using DP to pay fot chiropactor fees??

>

> any feedback appreciated

> Baz

>

[Guest guest]

Hello, I think you are limited in what you can use DPs for - they should have

given you info at the beginning. I don't think they can be used for therapies or

treatments but if the therapist/practitioner also works as a carer, then they

can work as a carer with your child and you can use DPs for this.And I think you

will have to give the money back if you don't spend it by the specified date -

they should have told you when this is. I know some people have managed to be

creative within limits in how the money has spent but you have to be able to

account for its being spent according to the rules. Your LA should have an

independent DPs advice service you might get some help from them.There will also

be a cap on how much you can pay someone per hour with the DPs.I think you could

get some useful advice off list from people who have successfully used DPs.(I

refused to have them because the hourly rate I was allowed to pay the workers

wasn't enough.)

Margaret

>

> Hi

>

> We have accumlated unused direct payment monies and the lea are wanting to

claw it back. We have been building up a reserve to cover extra help over the

holidays and recruitment costs etc. Im really keen to hear from anyone using

direct payments for reasonn other than domicillary care --i've heard of one

parent using DP to pay fot chiropactor fees??

>

> any feedback appreciated

> Baz

>

[Guest guest]

Hello, I think you are limited in what you can use DPs for - they should have

given you info at the beginning. I don't think they can be used for therapies or

treatments but if the therapist/practitioner also works as a carer, then they

can work as a carer with your child and you can use DPs for this.And I think you

will have to give the money back if you don't spend it by the specified date -

they should have told you when this is. I know some people have managed to be

creative within limits in how the money has spent but you have to be able to

account for its being spent according to the rules. Your LA should have an

independent DPs advice service you might get some help from them.There will also

be a cap on how much you can pay someone per hour with the DPs.I think you could

get some useful advice off list from people who have successfully used DPs.(I

refused to have them because the hourly rate I was allowed to pay the workers

wasn't enough.)

Margaret

>

> Hi

>

> We have accumlated unused direct payment monies and the lea are wanting to

claw it back. We have been building up a reserve to cover extra help over the

holidays and recruitment costs etc. Im really keen to hear from anyone using

direct payments for reasonn other than domicillary care --i've heard of one

parent using DP to pay fot chiropactor fees??

>

> any feedback appreciated

> Baz

>

[Guest guest]

They can't be used for chiropractors, its to provide respite and they are within rights to claw back at year end if money is not used unless you have spoken to SW made a case and he or she has agreed it.

Should be Social Services not LEA anyways.

I used to use mine in holidays and when Easter was early in the financial year I was allowed to carry it over as I wouldn't have had time to accrue any

Mandi x

HiWe have accumlated unused direct payment monies and the lea are wanting to claw it back. We have been building up a reserve to cover extra help over the holidays and recruitment costs etc. Im really keen to hear from anyone using direct payments for reasonn other than domicillary care --i've heard of one parent using DP to pay fot chiropactor fees??any feedback appreciatedBaz

[Guest guest]

They can't be used for chiropractors, its to provide respite and they are within rights to claw back at year end if money is not used unless you have spoken to SW made a case and he or she has agreed it.

Should be Social Services not LEA anyways.

I used to use mine in holidays and when Easter was early in the financial year I was allowed to carry it over as I wouldn't have had time to accrue any

Mandi x

HiWe have accumlated unused direct payment monies and the lea are wanting to claw it back. We have been building up a reserve to cover extra help over the holidays and recruitment costs etc. Im really keen to hear from anyone using direct payments for reasonn other than domicillary care --i've heard of one parent using DP to pay fot chiropactor fees??any feedback appreciatedBaz

[Guest guest]

They can't be used for chiropractors, its to provide respite and they are within rights to claw back at year end if money is not used unless you have spoken to SW made a case and he or she has agreed it.

Should be Social Services not LEA anyways.

I used to use mine in holidays and when Easter was early in the financial year I was allowed to carry it over as I wouldn't have had time to accrue any

Mandi x

HiWe have accumlated unused direct payment monies and the lea are wanting to claw it back. We have been building up a reserve to cover extra help over the holidays and recruitment costs etc. Im really keen to hear from anyone using direct payments for reasonn other than domicillary care --i've heard of one parent using DP to pay fot chiropactor fees??any feedback appreciatedBaz

[Guest guest]

Where I leave we can just carry over one month worth, otherwise they can get it back. Again, you can just use for rest bite, I use mine to pay for someone to do accademic work with my son, I pay extra on top of the rate or I use 1.5 hours DP to pay for one hour work. I need to provide an invoice but the girl is happy to sign the invoice with the amount she gets.

Re: Direct payments---what can they be used for?

They can't be used for chiropractors, its to provide respite and they are within rights to claw back at year end if money is not used unless you have spoken to SW made a case and he or she has agreed it.

Should be Social Services not LEA anyways.

I used to use mine in holidays and when Easter was early in the financial year I was allowed to carry it over as I wouldn't have had time to accrue any

Mandi x

Hi

We have accumlated unused direct payment monies and the lea are wanting to claw it back. We have been building up a reserve to cover extra help over the holidays and recruitment costs etc. Im really keen to hear from anyone using direct payments for reasonn other than domicillary care --i've heard of one parent using DP to pay fot chiropactor fees??

any feedback appreciated

Baz

[Guest guest]

Where I leave we can just carry over one month worth, otherwise they can get it back. Again, you can just use for rest bite, I use mine to pay for someone to do accademic work with my son, I pay extra on top of the rate or I use 1.5 hours DP to pay for one hour work. I need to provide an invoice but the girl is happy to sign the invoice with the amount she gets.

Re: Direct payments---what can they be used for?

They can't be used for chiropractors, its to provide respite and they are within rights to claw back at year end if money is not used unless you have spoken to SW made a case and he or she has agreed it.

Should be Social Services not LEA anyways.

I used to use mine in holidays and when Easter was early in the financial year I was allowed to carry it over as I wouldn't have had time to accrue any

Mandi x

Hi

We have accumlated unused direct payment monies and the lea are wanting to claw it back. We have been building up a reserve to cover extra help over the holidays and recruitment costs etc. Im really keen to hear from anyone using direct payments for reasonn other than domicillary care --i've heard of one parent using DP to pay fot chiropactor fees??

any feedback appreciated

Baz

[Guest guest]

I used to pay twice what I was funded so only got half the hours, SLP trained classroom assistant at Sams school but she was worth it

Mx

Where I leave we can just carry over one month worth, otherwise they can get it back. Again, you can just use for rest bite, I use mine to pay for someone to do accademic work with my son, I pay extra on top of the rate or I use 1.5 hours DP to pay for one hour work. I need to provide an invoice but the girl is happy to sign the invoice with the amount she gets.

Re: Direct payments---what can they be used for?

They can't be used for chiropractors, its to provide respite and they are within rights to claw back at year end if money is not used unless you have spoken to SW made a case and he or she has agreed it.

Should be Social Services not LEA anyways.

I used to use mine in holidays and when Easter was early in the financial year I was allowed to carry it over as I wouldn't have had time to accrue any

Mandi x

HiWe have accumlated unused direct payment monies and the lea are wanting to claw it back. We have been building up a reserve to cover extra help over the holidays and recruitment costs etc. Im really keen to hear from anyone using direct payments for reasonn other than domicillary care --i've heard of one parent using DP to pay fot chiropactor fees??any feedback appreciatedBaz

[Guest guest]

I used to pay twice what I was funded so only got half the hours, SLP trained classroom assistant at Sams school but she was worth it

Mx

Where I leave we can just carry over one month worth, otherwise they can get it back. Again, you can just use for rest bite, I use mine to pay for someone to do accademic work with my son, I pay extra on top of the rate or I use 1.5 hours DP to pay for one hour work. I need to provide an invoice but the girl is happy to sign the invoice with the amount she gets.

Re: Direct payments---what can they be used for?

They can't be used for chiropractors, its to provide respite and they are within rights to claw back at year end if money is not used unless you have spoken to SW made a case and he or she has agreed it.

Should be Social Services not LEA anyways.

I used to use mine in holidays and when Easter was early in the financial year I was allowed to carry it over as I wouldn't have had time to accrue any

Mandi x

HiWe have accumlated unused direct payment monies and the lea are wanting to claw it back. We have been building up a reserve to cover extra help over the holidays and recruitment costs etc. Im really keen to hear from anyone using direct payments for reasonn other than domicillary care --i've heard of one parent using DP to pay fot chiropactor fees??any feedback appreciatedBaz

[Guest guest]

I used to pay twice what I was funded so only got half the hours, SLP trained classroom assistant at Sams school but she was worth it

Mx

Where I leave we can just carry over one month worth, otherwise they can get it back. Again, you can just use for rest bite, I use mine to pay for someone to do accademic work with my son, I pay extra on top of the rate or I use 1.5 hours DP to pay for one hour work. I need to provide an invoice but the girl is happy to sign the invoice with the amount she gets.

Re: Direct payments---what can they be used for?

They can't be used for chiropractors, its to provide respite and they are within rights to claw back at year end if money is not used unless you have spoken to SW made a case and he or she has agreed it.

Should be Social Services not LEA anyways.

I used to use mine in holidays and when Easter was early in the financial year I was allowed to carry it over as I wouldn't have had time to accrue any

Mandi x

HiWe have accumlated unused direct payment monies and the lea are wanting to claw it back. We have been building up a reserve to cover extra help over the holidays and recruitment costs etc. Im really keen to hear from anyone using direct payments for reasonn other than domicillary care --i've heard of one parent using DP to pay fot chiropactor fees??any feedback appreciatedBaz

[Guest guest]

Hi

since you people are talking about Direct payments I would like your advice

[Guest guest]

Hi

since you people are talking about Direct payments I would like your advice

[Guest guest]

Hi

since you people are talking about Direct payments I would like your advice

[Guest guest]

Hi

since everyone is talking about Direct payments I would like your advice:

My DH and I are founding at the moment part of my DS home program by buying SEN materials to help on his learning , we also pay for swimming, horse riding, RDI and part of a Social skills club that he attends once a week.

I get 3 hours respite every Thursday and one day during the holidays this money is not paid by the SS but by the LEA as part of his programme.

The SS only pays £40.00 which is half of club fees every 8 weeks.

Am I getting a good deal, here? listening to some of you I am not so sure .....

we are really struggling with money specially to carry with biomed, DH already works over 50 hours every week to keep the house going but that means that I have to cope with every thing on my own ...I also been refused help by caudwell (they said they do not finance that programme any more) to another program for DS, on holidays I have 2 to take care of since he only stayed 2 hours in the club before they called me to take him home and say that maybe he should stay with me the rest of the holidays, I struggle to take him any where as I can spend easily £100 week just on transport and entries to places, money that I do not have.

we are becoming very isolated .....sorry off day today.

[Guest guest]

Hi

since everyone is talking about Direct payments I would like your advice:

My DH and I are founding at the moment part of my DS home program by buying SEN materials to help on his learning , we also pay for swimming, horse riding, RDI and part of a Social skills club that he attends once a week.

I get 3 hours respite every Thursday and one day during the holidays this money is not paid by the SS but by the LEA as part of his programme.

The SS only pays £40.00 which is half of club fees every 8 weeks.

Am I getting a good deal, here? listening to some of you I am not so sure .....

we are really struggling with money specially to carry with biomed, DH already works over 50 hours every week to keep the house going but that means that I have to cope with every thing on my own ...I also been refused help by caudwell (they said they do not finance that programme any more) to another program for DS, on holidays I have 2 to take care of since he only stayed 2 hours in the club before they called me to take him home and say that maybe he should stay with me the rest of the holidays, I struggle to take him any where as I can spend easily £100 week just on transport and entries to places, money that I do not have.

we are becoming very isolated .....sorry off day today.

[Guest guest]

Hi

since everyone is talking about Direct payments I would like your advice:

My DH and I are founding at the moment part of my DS home program by buying SEN materials to help on his learning , we also pay for swimming, horse riding, RDI and part of a Social skills club that he attends once a week.

I get 3 hours respite every Thursday and one day during the holidays this money is not paid by the SS but by the LEA as part of his programme.

The SS only pays £40.00 which is half of club fees every 8 weeks.

Am I getting a good deal, here? listening to some of you I am not so sure .....

we are really struggling with money specially to carry with biomed, DH already works over 50 hours every week to keep the house going but that means that I have to cope with every thing on my own ...I also been refused help by caudwell (they said they do not finance that programme any more) to another program for DS, on holidays I have 2 to take care of since he only stayed 2 hours in the club before they called me to take him home and say that maybe he should stay with me the rest of the holidays, I struggle to take him any where as I can spend easily £100 week just on transport and entries to places, money that I do not have.

we are becoming very isolated .....sorry off day today.

[Guest guest]

, I don't understand your post at all, generally LEA do not pay for respite as their responsibility is education only, so are you certain some of this money is not from SS?

Also how often are SS paying £40? We get 4 hours per week for at just under £7 per hour, he is severe and in a high needs class at school, this works out at around £28 per week, double during school holidays, like others I have less hours for a greater hourly rate. Iv'e been told I don't have a cat in hells chance of getting more than 4 hours no matter how challenging can be as a severe non verbal teenager, maybe it's just another post code lottery.

Vicky

Re: Direct payments---what can they be used for?

Hi

since everyone is talking about Direct payments I would like your advice:

My DH and I are founding at the moment part of my DS home program by buying SEN materials to help on his learning , we also pay for swimming, horse riding, RDI and part of a Social skills club that he attends once a week.

I get 3 hours respite every Thursday and one day during the holidays this money is not paid by the SS but by the LEA as part of his programme.

The SS only pays £40.00 which is half of club fees every 8 weeks.

Am I getting a good deal, here? listening to some of you I am not so sure .....

we are really struggling with money specially to carry with biomed, DH already works over 50 hours every week to keep the house going but that means that I have to cope with every thing on my own ...I also been refused help by caudwell (they said they do not finance that programme any more) to another program for DS, on holidays I have 2 to take care of since he only stayed 2 hours in the club before they called me to take him home and say that maybe he should stay with me the rest of the holidays, I struggle to take him any where as I can spend easily £100 week just on transport and entries to places, money that I do not have.

we are becoming very isolated .....sorry off day today.

[Guest guest]

, I don't understand your post at all, generally LEA do not pay for respite as their responsibility is education only, so are you certain some of this money is not from SS?

Also how often are SS paying £40? We get 4 hours per week for at just under £7 per hour, he is severe and in a high needs class at school, this works out at around £28 per week, double during school holidays, like others I have less hours for a greater hourly rate. Iv'e been told I don't have a cat in hells chance of getting more than 4 hours no matter how challenging can be as a severe non verbal teenager, maybe it's just another post code lottery.

Vicky

Re: Direct payments---what can they be used for?

Hi

since everyone is talking about Direct payments I would like your advice:

My DH and I are founding at the moment part of my DS home program by buying SEN materials to help on his learning , we also pay for swimming, horse riding, RDI and part of a Social skills club that he attends once a week.

I get 3 hours respite every Thursday and one day during the holidays this money is not paid by the SS but by the LEA as part of his programme.

The SS only pays £40.00 which is half of club fees every 8 weeks.

Am I getting a good deal, here? listening to some of you I am not so sure .....

we are really struggling with money specially to carry with biomed, DH already works over 50 hours every week to keep the house going but that means that I have to cope with every thing on my own ...I also been refused help by caudwell (they said they do not finance that programme any more) to another program for DS, on holidays I have 2 to take care of since he only stayed 2 hours in the club before they called me to take him home and say that maybe he should stay with me the rest of the holidays, I struggle to take him any where as I can spend easily £100 week just on transport and entries to places, money that I do not have.

we are becoming very isolated .....sorry off day today.

[Guest guest]

, I don't understand your post at all, generally LEA do not pay for respite as their responsibility is education only, so are you certain some of this money is not from SS?

Also how often are SS paying £40? We get 4 hours per week for at just under £7 per hour, he is severe and in a high needs class at school, this works out at around £28 per week, double during school holidays, like others I have less hours for a greater hourly rate. Iv'e been told I don't have a cat in hells chance of getting more than 4 hours no matter how challenging can be as a severe non verbal teenager, maybe it's just another post code lottery.

Vicky

Re: Direct payments---what can they be used for?

Hi

since everyone is talking about Direct payments I would like your advice:

My DH and I are founding at the moment part of my DS home program by buying SEN materials to help on his learning , we also pay for swimming, horse riding, RDI and part of a Social skills club that he attends once a week.

I get 3 hours respite every Thursday and one day during the holidays this money is not paid by the SS but by the LEA as part of his programme.

The SS only pays £40.00 which is half of club fees every 8 weeks.

Am I getting a good deal, here? listening to some of you I am not so sure .....

we are really struggling with money specially to carry with biomed, DH already works over 50 hours every week to keep the house going but that means that I have to cope with every thing on my own ...I also been refused help by caudwell (they said they do not finance that programme any more) to another program for DS, on holidays I have 2 to take care of since he only stayed 2 hours in the club before they called me to take him home and say that maybe he should stay with me the rest of the holidays, I struggle to take him any where as I can spend easily £100 week just on transport and entries to places, money that I do not have.

we are becoming very isolated .....sorry off day today.

[Guest guest]

Vicky,

yes, I do understand about the confusing it was to me as well, as I never got to the bottom of who pays what, and believe me I asked, I was guaranteed by the SS that they were not paying ....this hours were arranged by the LEA officer that over sees DS program....all I can say is that the council is paying .....at the lack of nomination of a more specific body.

the £40.00 is every 8 weeks so I guess it comes to a little more than £4.00 a week.

Like yours my Son as many challenges , aggression is one of them, he was excluded of specific ASD placement 2 years ago, and labelled as a danger to staff, pupils and property,on the day of the exclusion he trashed and I mean trashed the room were he used to have his lessons the only thing that escaped was the computers because the staff removed them before hell broke loose, that is why is excluded of play groups as well , he only attends places for behaviour problems teenagers and even there they struggle with him , with the exception of the respite facility no one manages him....he is moderate to severe, depending on the day like I always say Sunday he decided that the hall need to be repainted and started to strip the old one .....

[Guest guest]

Vicky,

yes, I do understand about the confusing it was to me as well, as I never got to the bottom of who pays what, and believe me I asked, I was guaranteed by the SS that they were not paying ....this hours were arranged by the LEA officer that over sees DS program....all I can say is that the council is paying .....at the lack of nomination of a more specific body.

the £40.00 is every 8 weeks so I guess it comes to a little more than £4.00 a week.

Like yours my Son as many challenges , aggression is one of them, he was excluded of specific ASD placement 2 years ago, and labelled as a danger to staff, pupils and property,on the day of the exclusion he trashed and I mean trashed the room were he used to have his lessons the only thing that escaped was the computers because the staff removed them before hell broke loose, that is why is excluded of play groups as well , he only attends places for behaviour problems teenagers and even there they struggle with him , with the exception of the respite facility no one manages him....he is moderate to severe, depending on the day like I always say Sunday he decided that the hall need to be repainted and started to strip the old one .....

[Guest guest]

Vicky,

yes, I do understand about the confusing it was to me as well, as I never got to the bottom of who pays what, and believe me I asked, I was guaranteed by the SS that they were not paying ....this hours were arranged by the LEA officer that over sees DS program....all I can say is that the council is paying .....at the lack of nomination of a more specific body.

the £40.00 is every 8 weeks so I guess it comes to a little more than £4.00 a week.

Like yours my Son as many challenges , aggression is one of them, he was excluded of specific ASD placement 2 years ago, and labelled as a danger to staff, pupils and property,on the day of the exclusion he trashed and I mean trashed the room were he used to have his lessons the only thing that escaped was the computers because the staff removed them before hell broke loose, that is why is excluded of play groups as well , he only attends places for behaviour problems teenagers and even there they struggle with him , with the exception of the respite facility no one manages him....he is moderate to severe, depending on the day like I always say Sunday he decided that the hall need to be repainted and started to strip the old one .....

[Guest guest]

We use ours to pay for Tom's one to one and she is trained in VB (by us). So it

augments his VB programme but at present he@s so poorly it augments his " stop my

parents throwing themselves off a high tower " programme. We've had the same one

to one for 3 years and she's lovely. Growing Minds gave some telephone tuition

(we paid for) and DP pay for her hours. As far as they're concerned it@s time

he's being looked after and she does various NET with him around the park and so

forth. x

>

> Hi

> since everyone is talking about Direct payments I would like your advice:

> My DH and I are founding at the moment part of my DS home program by buying

> SEN materials to help on his learning , we also pay for swimming, horse

> riding, RDI and part of a Social skills club that he attends once a week.

> I get 3 hours respite every Thursday and one day during the holidays this

> money is not paid by the SS but by the LEA as part of his programme.

> The SS only pays £40.00 which is half of club fees every 8 weeks.

> Am I getting a good deal, here? listening to some of you I am not so sure

> .....

> we are really struggling with money specially to carry with biomed, DH

> already works over 50 hours every week to keep the house going but that means

> that I have to cope with every thing on my own ...I also been refused help

> by caudwell (they said they do not finance that programme any more) to

> another program for DS, on holidays I have 2 to take care of since he only

> stayed 2 hours in the club before they called me to take him home and say

that

> maybe he should stay with me the rest of the holidays, I struggle to take

> him any where as I can spend easily £100 week just on transport and entries

> to places, money that I do not have.

> we are becoming very isolated .....sorry off day today.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

We use ours to pay for Tom's one to one and she is trained in VB (by us). So it

augments his VB programme but at present he@s so poorly it augments his " stop my

parents throwing themselves off a high tower " programme. We've had the same one

to one for 3 years and she's lovely. Growing Minds gave some telephone tuition

(we paid for) and DP pay for her hours. As far as they're concerned it@s time

he's being looked after and she does various NET with him around the park and so

forth. x

>

> Hi

> since everyone is talking about Direct payments I would like your advice:

> My DH and I are founding at the moment part of my DS home program by buying

> SEN materials to help on his learning , we also pay for swimming, horse

> riding, RDI and part of a Social skills club that he attends once a week.

> I get 3 hours respite every Thursday and one day during the holidays this

> money is not paid by the SS but by the LEA as part of his programme.

> The SS only pays £40.00 which is half of club fees every 8 weeks.

> Am I getting a good deal, here? listening to some of you I am not so sure

> .....

> we are really struggling with money specially to carry with biomed, DH

> already works over 50 hours every week to keep the house going but that means

> that I have to cope with every thing on my own ...I also been refused help

> by caudwell (they said they do not finance that programme any more) to

> another program for DS, on holidays I have 2 to take care of since he only

> stayed 2 hours in the club before they called me to take him home and say

that

> maybe he should stay with me the rest of the holidays, I struggle to take

> him any where as I can spend easily £100 week just on transport and entries

> to places, money that I do not have.

> we are becoming very isolated .....sorry off day today.

>

>

>