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i was waiting to see if anyone was going to be more polite than me. YO! cassell! get out of here! buzz off. got it? and no lurking either. perhaps we should track and expose as inappropriate anyone who solicits us here (second occurrence by an emr vendor), and/or a vendor who directly solicits any member of the listserve after monitoring the group. of course, the member would have to report the solicitation here. then the question might be, was the solicitation wanted or unwanted? any suggestions on how we can control this, or has it not yet become a large enough problem? should we become some type of locked forum? of course, since cassell was so kind to provide his phone #, he could be called. i've just called him right now, and he denies soliciting anything. i told him that i had his

email right in front of me, read it to him, and told him to post no more. LL drbrock@... wrote: Someone please tell this guy to stop the EMR solicitation.> > > Date: 2006/04/26 Wed PM 05:28:56 EDT> To: > Subject: Re: EMP software> > Hi Moitri,> > have you considered a low cost yet robust web absed EMR?> > Regards,> > Bill> > Bill Cassell> medpracticeflow.com> Medical Software Consultant>

Toll Free: > Tel: > Fax: > email: bcassell@...> www.medpracticeflow.com> > Specializing in web based technology resources for the small and mid sized physician’s office. Increase productivity, lower costs AND ultimately improve the level of your patients care.> > > > Moitri Chowdhury Savard wrote:> Hi Matt,> > How do you like SOAPware? Does anyone else have an opinion about it or other low cost/non-do-it-yourself EMR software?> > Moitri> > Levin wrote:> RE Diversity and what works for one may not work for

all.> > Certainly in many settings, a receptionist may be critical; having 8+ pts in > a day may not be conducive to a no-staff practice.> As one who uses an EMR, but has support staff, I've found my "break even" > point is lower than the hospital owned practice.> > Some here have settled for fewer pts, less workload, more personal touch.> > Never say it "can't be done"-- you have to settle for some compromise, > volume vs personalization.> > This listserv and Gordon's perspective continue to be helpful to me to > survive and improve my practice each and every day.> > Keep on sharing... don't insult!> > Dr Matt Levin> Pittsburgh, PA> FTE 2.5; outsource billing; 16 months out solo> Was in hospital owned practice x 8 years before, was outsourced> Finished residency 1988> EMR user of SOAPWare since 1997, increased use since

2004> > Diversity of opinion> > > > Some posts and opinions have surprised me, some go against my grain,> > many are informative and often I'm thrilled and rewarded by what you> > all have to say.> >> > Let us share our thoughts, feelings, barriers, and success> > unabashedly. If you find another's post challenging or contrary to> > your experience, say so as we are all rewarded by the diversity of > > opinion.> >> > Remember, though, that we are all people, that we are all struggling> > with the difficult task of creating ideal practices in a

very> > difficult environment that does not well support our work. One thing> > I have learned through this group is the incredible variation in> > payment, malpractice, and many other aspects of work that create> > mind-blowing regional variation. Add to that complexity our personal> > needs, family, tolerance for ambiguity, etc, and that should lead to> > a realization that our own personal context may not apply to another.> >> > Let us explore what others have done, let us discuss our own> > principles that guide our decisions, but let us refrain from personal > > attack.> > Thank> > Gordon> >> >> >> >> >> >

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Thank you for taking care of that.

Re: EMP software

>

> Hi Moitri,

>

> have you considered a low cost yet robust web absed EMR?

>

> Regards,

>

> Bill

>

> Bill Cassell

> medpracticeflow.com

> Medical Software Consultant

> Toll Free:

> Tel:

> Fax:

> email: bcassell@...

> www.medpracticeflow.com

>

> Specializing in web based technology resources for the small

and mid sized physician’s office. Increase productivity, lower

costs AND ultimately improve the level of your patients care.

>

>

>

> Moitri Chowdhury Savard wrote:

> Hi Matt,

>

> How do you like SOAPware? Does anyone else have an

opinion about it or other low cost/non-do-it-yourself EMR software?

>

> Moitri

>

> Levin wrote:

> RE Diversity and what works for one may not work for all.

>

> Certainly in many settings, a receptionist may be critical; having 8+ pts

in

> a day may not be conducive to a no-staff practice.

> As one who uses an EMR, but has support staff, I've found my " break

even "

> point is lower than the hospital owned practice.

>

> Some here have settled for fewer pts, less workload, more personal touch.

>

> Never say it " can't be done " -- you have to settle for some

compromise,

> volume vs personalization.

>

> This listserv and Gordon's perspective continue to be helpful to me to

> survive and improve my practice each and every day.

>

> Keep on sharing... don't insult!

>

> Dr Matt Levin

> Pittsburgh, PA

> FTE 2.5; outsource billing; 16 months out solo

> Was in hospital owned practice x 8 years before, was outsourced

> Finished residency 1988

> EMR user of SOAPWare since 1997, increased use since 2004

>

> Diversity of opinion

>

>

> > Some posts and opinions have surprised me, some go against my grain,

> > many are informative and often I'm thrilled and rewarded by what you

> > all have to say.

> >

> > Let us share our thoughts, feelings, barriers, and success

> > unabashedly. If you find another's post challenging or contrary

to

> > your experience, say so as we are all rewarded by the diversity of

> > opinion.

> >

> > Remember, though, that we are all people, that we are all struggling

> > with the difficult task of creating ideal practices in a very

> > difficult environment that does not well support our work. One

thing

> > I have learned through this group is the incredible variation in

> > payment, malpractice, and many other aspects of work that create

> > mind-blowing regional variation. Add to that complexity our

personal

> > needs, family, tolerance for ambiguity, etc, and that should lead to

> > a realization that our own personal context may not apply to another.

> >

> > Let us explore what others have done, let us discuss our own

> > principles that guide our decisions, but let us refrain from personal

> > attack.

> > Thank

> > Gordon

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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Dear Doctor, As I had TRIED to tell you on the phone...I AM NOT AN EMR VENDOR. If you go to my website (www.medpracticeflow.com) you will see what I do. All I ask is that you do the research before making accusations (analogy, making a diagnosis AFTER doing the exam). I simply compile info on companies that offices can turn to for their specific needs. I try to sort out all of the garbage for these offices. bill lawrence lyon wrote: i was waiting to see if anyone was going to be more polite than me. YO! cassell! get out of here! buzz off. got it? and no lurking either. perhaps

we should track and expose as inappropriate anyone who solicits us here (second occurrence by an emr vendor), and/or a vendor who directly solicits any member of the listserve after monitoring the group. of course, the member would have to report the solicitation here. then the question might be, was the solicitation wanted or unwanted? any suggestions on how we can control this, or has it not yet become a large enough problem? should we become some type of locked forum? of course, since cassell was so kind to provide his phone #, he could be called. i've just called him right now, and he denies soliciting anything. i told him that i had his email right in front of me, read it to him, and told him to post no more. LL drbrock@... wrote: Someone please tell this guy to stop the EMR solicitation.> > > Date: 2006/04/26 Wed PM 05:28:56 EDT> To: > Subject: Re: EMP software> > Hi Moitri,> > have you considered a low cost yet robust web based EMR?> > Regards,> > Bill> > Bill Cassell> medpracticeflow.com> Medical Software Consultant> Toll Free: > Tel: > Fax: > email: bcassell@...> www.medpracticeflow.com>

> Specializing in web based technology resources for the small and mid sized physician’s office. Increase productivity, lower costs AND ultimately improve the level of your patients care.> > > > Moitri Chowdhury Savard wrote:> Hi Matt,> > How do you like SOAPware? Does anyone else have an opinion about it or other low cost/non-do-it-yourself EMR software?> > Moitri> > Levin wrote:> RE Diversity and what works for one may not work for all.> > Certainly in many settings, a receptionist may be critical; having 8+ pts in > a day may not be conducive to a no-staff practice.> As one who uses an EMR, but has support staff, I've found my "break even"

> point is lower than the hospital owned practice.> > Some here have settled for fewer pts, less workload, more personal touch.> > Never say it "can't be done"-- you have to settle for some compromise, > volume vs personalization.> > This listserv and Gordon's perspective continue to be helpful to me to > survive and improve my practice each and every day.> > Keep on sharing... don't insult!> > Dr Matt Levin> Pittsburgh, PA> FTE 2.5; outsource billing; 16 months out solo> Was in hospital owned practice x 8 years before, was outsourced> Finished residency 1988> EMR user of SOAPWare since 1997, increased use since 2004> > Diversity of opinion> > > > Some posts and opinions have surprised me, some go against my grain,> > many are informative and often I'm thrilled and rewarded by what you> > all have to say.> >> > Let us share our thoughts, feelings, barriers, and success> > unabashedly. If you find another's post challenging or contrary to> > your experience, say so as we are all rewarded by the diversity of > > opinion.> >> > Remember, though, that we are all people, that we are all struggling> > with the difficult task of creating ideal practices in a very> > difficult environment that does not well support our work. One thing> > I have learned through this group is the incredible variation in> > payment, malpractice, and many other aspects of work that

create> > mind-blowing regional variation. Add to that complexity our personal> > needs, family, tolerance for ambiguity, etc, and that should lead to> > a realization that our own personal context may not apply to another.> >> > Let us explore what others have done, let us discuss our own> > principles that guide our decisions, but let us refrain from personal > > attack.> > Thank> > Gordon> >> >> >> >> >> >

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Dear Doctor, As I had TRIED to tell you on the phone...I AM NOT AN EMR VENDOR. If you go to my website (www.medpracticeflow.com) you will see what I do. All I ask is that you do the research before making accusations (analogy, making a diagnosis AFTER doing the exam). I simply compile info on companies that offices can turn to for their specific needs. I try to sort out all of the garbage for these offices. bill lawrence lyon wrote: i was waiting to see if anyone was going to be more polite than me. YO! cassell! get out of here! buzz off. got it? and no lurking either. perhaps

we should track and expose as inappropriate anyone who solicits us here (second occurrence by an emr vendor), and/or a vendor who directly solicits any member of the listserve after monitoring the group. of course, the member would have to report the solicitation here. then the question might be, was the solicitation wanted or unwanted? any suggestions on how we can control this, or has it not yet become a large enough problem? should we become some type of locked forum? of course, since cassell was so kind to provide his phone #, he could be called. i've just called him right now, and he denies soliciting anything. i told him that i had his email right in front of me, read it to him, and told him to post no more. LL drbrock@... wrote: Someone please tell this guy to stop the EMR solicitation.> > > Date: 2006/04/26 Wed PM 05:28:56 EDT> To: > Subject: Re: EMP software> > Hi Moitri,> > have you considered a low cost yet robust web based EMR?> > Regards,> > Bill> > Bill Cassell> medpracticeflow.com> Medical Software Consultant> Toll Free: > Tel: > Fax: > email: bcassell@...> www.medpracticeflow.com>

> Specializing in web based technology resources for the small and mid sized physician’s office. Increase productivity, lower costs AND ultimately improve the level of your patients care.> > > > Moitri Chowdhury Savard wrote:> Hi Matt,> > How do you like SOAPware? Does anyone else have an opinion about it or other low cost/non-do-it-yourself EMR software?> > Moitri> > Levin wrote:> RE Diversity and what works for one may not work for all.> > Certainly in many settings, a receptionist may be critical; having 8+ pts in > a day may not be conducive to a no-staff practice.> As one who uses an EMR, but has support staff, I've found my "break even"

> point is lower than the hospital owned practice.> > Some here have settled for fewer pts, less workload, more personal touch.> > Never say it "can't be done"-- you have to settle for some compromise, > volume vs personalization.> > This listserv and Gordon's perspective continue to be helpful to me to > survive and improve my practice each and every day.> > Keep on sharing... don't insult!> > Dr Matt Levin> Pittsburgh, PA> FTE 2.5; outsource billing; 16 months out solo> Was in hospital owned practice x 8 years before, was outsourced> Finished residency 1988> EMR user of SOAPWare since 1997, increased use since 2004> > Diversity of opinion> > > > Some posts and opinions have surprised me, some go against my grain,> > many are informative and often I'm thrilled and rewarded by what you> > all have to say.> >> > Let us share our thoughts, feelings, barriers, and success> > unabashedly. If you find another's post challenging or contrary to> > your experience, say so as we are all rewarded by the diversity of > > opinion.> >> > Remember, though, that we are all people, that we are all struggling> > with the difficult task of creating ideal practices in a very> > difficult environment that does not well support our work. One thing> > I have learned through this group is the incredible variation in> > payment, malpractice, and many other aspects of work that

create> > mind-blowing regional variation. Add to that complexity our personal> > needs, family, tolerance for ambiguity, etc, and that should lead to> > a realization that our own personal context may not apply to another.> >> > Let us explore what others have done, let us discuss our own> > principles that guide our decisions, but let us refrain from personal > > attack.> > Thank> > Gordon> >> >> >> >> >> >

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Please see our mission statement section on the website. "Medpracticeflow.com is dedicated to educating and enlightening practices and ultimately their patients on these breakthroughs in the delivery of medicine and how it can help both the practitioner improve their profitability and also benefit the patient by providing a better level of patient care. To this end everyone at Medpracticeflow.com and all of our partners hope that this repository of information and resources will help each part of the healthcare equation interact more efficiently and profitably." BTW, a drug rep works for the drug company. I DO NOT work for any of the companies that I have up there nor did I charge them for being there. They are representative of client-focused well built technology solutions that I have been exposed

to to help the small to mid sized practice. There are NO charges for any questions submitted on that forum. The visitor MUST contact the partner directly if they want more info we do not automatically route those inquiries to the companies. In other words we are trying to help the medical office help thier patients and bottom lines, simple? Sometimes things are just what they seem to be nothing more nothing less. bill Brock DO wrote: Yes, I agree! Re: EMP software> > Hi Moitri,> > have you considered a low cost yet robust web based EMR?> > Regards,> > Bill> > Bill Cassell> medpracticeflow.com> Medical Software Consultant> Toll Free: > Tel: > Fax: (724)

325-3299> email: bcassell@...> www.medpracticeflow.com> > Specializing in web based technology resources for the small and midsized physician’s office. Increase productivity, lower costs AND ultimatelyimprove the level of your patients care.> > > > Moitri Chowdhury Savard wrote:> Hi Matt,> > How do you like SOAPware? Does anyone else have an opinion about it orother low cost/non-do-it-yourself EMR software?> > Moitri> > Levin wrote:> RE Diversity and what works for one may not work for all.> > Certainly in many settings, a receptionist may be critical; having 8+

ptsin > a day may not be conducive to a no-staff practice.> As one who uses an EMR, but has support staff, I've found my "break even" > point is lower than the hospital owned practice.> > Some here have settled for fewer pts, less workload, more personal touch.> > Never say it "can't be done"-- you have to settle for some compromise, > volume vs personalization.> > This listserv and Gordon's perspective continue to be helpful to me to<BR>> survive and improve my practice each and every day.<BR>> <BR>> Keep onsharing... don't insult!> > Dr Matt Levin> Pittsburgh, PA> FTE 2.5; outsource billing; 16 months out solo> Was in hospital owned practice x 8 years before, was outsourced> Finished residency 1988> EMR user of SOAPWare since 1997, increased use since 2004> > Diversity of opinion> > > > Some posts and opinions have surprised me, some go against my grain,> > many are informative and often I'm thrilled and rewarded by whatyou<BR>> > all have to say.<BR>> ><BR>> > Let us share our thoughts,feelings, barriers, and success<BR>> > unabashedly. If you find another'spost challenging or contrary to> > your experience, say so as we are all rewarded by the diversity of > > opinion.> >> > Remember, though, that we are all people, that we are all struggling> > with the difficult task of creating ideal practices in a very> > difficult

environment that does not well support our work. One thing> > I have learned through this group is the incredible variation in> > payment, malpractice, and many other aspects of work that create> > mind-blowing regional variation. Add to that complexity our personal> > needs, family, tolerance for ambiguity, etc, and that should lead to> > a realization that our own personal context may not apply to another.> >> > Let us explore what others have done, let us discuss our own> > principles that guide our decisions, but let us refrain from personal > > attack.> > Thank> > Gordon> >> >> >> >> >> >

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Please see our mission statement section on the website. "Medpracticeflow.com is dedicated to educating and enlightening practices and ultimately their patients on these breakthroughs in the delivery of medicine and how it can help both the practitioner improve their profitability and also benefit the patient by providing a better level of patient care. To this end everyone at Medpracticeflow.com and all of our partners hope that this repository of information and resources will help each part of the healthcare equation interact more efficiently and profitably." BTW, a drug rep works for the drug company. I DO NOT work for any of the companies that I have up there nor did I charge them for being there. They are representative of client-focused well built technology solutions that I have been exposed

to to help the small to mid sized practice. There are NO charges for any questions submitted on that forum. The visitor MUST contact the partner directly if they want more info we do not automatically route those inquiries to the companies. In other words we are trying to help the medical office help thier patients and bottom lines, simple? Sometimes things are just what they seem to be nothing more nothing less. bill Brock DO wrote: Yes, I agree! Re: EMP software> > Hi Moitri,> > have you considered a low cost yet robust web based EMR?> > Regards,> > Bill> > Bill Cassell> medpracticeflow.com> Medical Software Consultant> Toll Free: > Tel: > Fax: (724)

325-3299> email: bcassell@...> www.medpracticeflow.com> > Specializing in web based technology resources for the small and midsized physician’s office. Increase productivity, lower costs AND ultimatelyimprove the level of your patients care.> > > > Moitri Chowdhury Savard wrote:> Hi Matt,> > How do you like SOAPware? Does anyone else have an opinion about it orother low cost/non-do-it-yourself EMR software?> > Moitri> > Levin wrote:> RE Diversity and what works for one may not work for all.> > Certainly in many settings, a receptionist may be critical; having 8+

ptsin > a day may not be conducive to a no-staff practice.> As one who uses an EMR, but has support staff, I've found my "break even" > point is lower than the hospital owned practice.> > Some here have settled for fewer pts, less workload, more personal touch.> > Never say it "can't be done"-- you have to settle for some compromise, > volume vs personalization.> > This listserv and Gordon's perspective continue to be helpful to me to<BR>> survive and improve my practice each and every day.<BR>> <BR>> Keep onsharing... don't insult!> > Dr Matt Levin> Pittsburgh, PA> FTE 2.5; outsource billing; 16 months out solo> Was in hospital owned practice x 8 years before, was outsourced> Finished residency 1988> EMR user of SOAPWare since 1997, increased use since 2004> > Diversity of opinion> > > > Some posts and opinions have surprised me, some go against my grain,> > many are informative and often I'm thrilled and rewarded by whatyou<BR>> > all have to say.<BR>> ><BR>> > Let us share our thoughts,feelings, barriers, and success<BR>> > unabashedly. If you find another'spost challenging or contrary to> > your experience, say so as we are all rewarded by the diversity of > > opinion.> >> > Remember, though, that we are all people, that we are all struggling> > with the difficult task of creating ideal practices in a very> > difficult

environment that does not well support our work. One thing> > I have learned through this group is the incredible variation in> > payment, malpractice, and many other aspects of work that create> > mind-blowing regional variation. Add to that complexity our personal> > needs, family, tolerance for ambiguity, etc, and that should lead to> > a realization that our own personal context may not apply to another.> >> > Let us explore what others have done, let us discuss our own> > principles that guide our decisions, but let us refrain from personal > > attack.> > Thank> > Gordon> >> >> >> >> >> >

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I would prefer to be enlighted doctor to doctor, thanks but get off

this site

Brent

> > RE Diversity and what works for one may not work for all.

> >

> > Certainly in many settings, a receptionist may be critical;

having 8+ pts

> in

> > a day may not be conducive to a no-staff practice.

> > As one who uses an EMR, but has support staff, I've found

my " break even "

> > point is lower than the hospital owned practice.

> >

> > Some here have settled for fewer pts, less workload, more

personal touch.

> >

> > Never say it " can't be done " -- you have to settle for some

compromise,

> > volume vs personalization.

> >

> > This listserv and Gordon's perspective continue to be helpful to

me to

> <BR>> survive and improve my practice each and every day.<BR>>

<BR>> Keep on

> sharing... don't insult!

> >

> > Dr Matt Levin

> > Pittsburgh, PA

> > FTE 2.5; outsource billing; 16 months out solo

> > Was in hospital owned practice x 8 years before, was outsourced

> > Finished residency 1988

> > EMR user of SOAPWare since 1997, increased use since 2004

> >

> > Diversity of opinion

> >

> >

> > > Some posts and opinions have surprised me, some go against my

grain,

> > > many are informative and often I'm thrilled and rewarded by

what

> you<BR>> > all have to say.<BR>> ><BR>> > Let us share our

thoughts,

> feelings, barriers, and success<BR>> > unabashedly. If you find

another's

> post challenging or contrary to

> > > your experience, say so as we are all rewarded by the

diversity of

> > > opinion.

> > >

> > > Remember, though, that we are all people, that we are all

struggling

> > > with the difficult task of creating ideal practices in a very

> > > difficult environment that does not well support our work.

One thing

> > > I have learned through this group is the incredible variation

in

> > > payment, malpractice, and many other aspects of work that

create

> > > mind-blowing regional variation. Add to that complexity our

personal

> > > needs, family, tolerance for ambiguity, etc, and that should

lead to

> > > a realization that our own personal context may not apply to

another.

> > >

> > > Let us explore what others have done, let us discuss our own

> > > principles that guide our decisions, but let us refrain from

personal

> > > attack.

> > > Thank

> > > Gordon

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

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Can we further discuss securing the

membership/participants on the list serve? I would

like to share my 6 month figures with the group, but I

really don't want to give it away to any " business

consultant " parasites that are lurking in the shadows.

I don't know much about these email lists, but there

must be some way to go through and verify all the

participants are physicians trying to improve our

system. I'm all for being inclusive and welcoming new

docs into the group, but I don't want to see some

MBA-type stealing the ideas and profiting from our

work (I'd rather see Gordon and others write the

book and get the credit!).

Rancho Mirage, CA

--- brenthrabik wrote:

> I would prefer to be enlighted doctor to doctor,

> thanks but get off

> this site

> Brent

> Someone please tell this guy

> to stop the EMR

> > solicitation.

> >

> >

> > >

> > >

> > > Date: 2006/04/26 Wed PM 05:28:56 EDT

> > > To:

> > > Subject: Re: EMP software

> > >

> > > Hi Moitri,

> > >

> > > have you considered a low cost yet robust web

> based EMR?

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > >

> > > Bill

> > >

> > > Bill Cassell

>

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Can we further discuss securing the

membership/participants on the list serve? I would

like to share my 6 month figures with the group, but I

really don't want to give it away to any " business

consultant " parasites that are lurking in the shadows.

I don't know much about these email lists, but there

must be some way to go through and verify all the

participants are physicians trying to improve our

system. I'm all for being inclusive and welcoming new

docs into the group, but I don't want to see some

MBA-type stealing the ideas and profiting from our

work (I'd rather see Gordon and others write the

book and get the credit!).

Rancho Mirage, CA

--- brenthrabik wrote:

> I would prefer to be enlighted doctor to doctor,

> thanks but get off

> this site

> Brent

> Someone please tell this guy

> to stop the EMR

> > solicitation.

> >

> >

> > >

> > >

> > > Date: 2006/04/26 Wed PM 05:28:56 EDT

> > > To:

> > > Subject: Re: EMP software

> > >

> > > Hi Moitri,

> > >

> > > have you considered a low cost yet robust web

> based EMR?

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > >

> > > Bill

> > >

> > > Bill Cassell

>

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