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My heart goes out to you. Had your daughter been diagnosed with a thyroid problem prior to this? I lost my Mother many years ago to the opposite type problem,. hypothyroid and the depression it causes. She committed suicide at 35 years old. This disease is a killer just usually it is a long drawn out thing. YOURSELF is who needs care too! You say you have been on & off thyroid meds for two years? Once diagnosed with thyroid disease, you always have it. You need to take care of yourself to care for your grandchild. Hugs from the heart for your daughter.

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I was so sorry to read about your loss, Debi. My heart goes out to

you! I have heard of thyroid storms but I'm not really sure what

can cause one. You might possibly find out more information about

the condition on the about thyroid.com site.

http://adam.about.com/encyclopedia/000400.htm

Did you or your daughter know that she had a thyroid condition?

I hope that you can get custody of those little ones. Please be

sure to take the best care of yourself right now as possible and

that includes getting your own thyroid treatment optimized. Do you

have a good doctor?

(((hugs))) and God Bless

>

> Hello,

>

> I would like to introduce myself to the group and give you a

little

> back ground info in myself and why I joined this group.

>

> I'm a 45 year old female that lives in Baytown, Texas which is

about

> 25 miles from Houston. I just lost my daughter on Dec 31,

> 2004, she was 28 years old we were told her had Thyroid Storm and

> that was the cause of death.

> I never even heard of Thyroid Storm until my daughter went into

the

> hospital on Dec 27 with a fever of 105 and heart rate of 180. My

> husband and I were out of town when all this happened and came

home

> when my daughters boyfriend called to tell me that my daughter was

in

> ICU in a coma. This has been the hardest and worse two weeks of my

> whole life. Not only did and do I have to deal with the death of

my

> baby, I have to find a way to get her children so that they are

taken

> care of. The boyfriend is the father of only one of her children,

so

> I may not to able to do much about him, but the other one is not

his

> and there is no father listed on his BC. So I have been keeping

busy

> trying to get everything together so that I can make sure he is

very

> well taken care of.....

>

> I also have a Thyroid problems and have been for about two years

now

> and have been on med's off and on for a little over two years now.

> I never know that having this problem could end your life in such

a

> way...

>

> I would like to find out anything and everything I can about

Thyroid

> Storm and hear from people that has had it or know of someone that

> has had it and the out come of it....

>

> Thank you so much God Bless you

>

> Debi

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I was so sorry to read about your loss, Debi. My heart goes out to

you! I have heard of thyroid storms but I'm not really sure what

can cause one. You might possibly find out more information about

the condition on the about thyroid.com site.

http://adam.about.com/encyclopedia/000400.htm

Did you or your daughter know that she had a thyroid condition?

I hope that you can get custody of those little ones. Please be

sure to take the best care of yourself right now as possible and

that includes getting your own thyroid treatment optimized. Do you

have a good doctor?

(((hugs))) and God Bless

>

> Hello,

>

> I would like to introduce myself to the group and give you a

little

> back ground info in myself and why I joined this group.

>

> I'm a 45 year old female that lives in Baytown, Texas which is

about

> 25 miles from Houston. I just lost my daughter on Dec 31,

> 2004, she was 28 years old we were told her had Thyroid Storm and

> that was the cause of death.

> I never even heard of Thyroid Storm until my daughter went into

the

> hospital on Dec 27 with a fever of 105 and heart rate of 180. My

> husband and I were out of town when all this happened and came

home

> when my daughters boyfriend called to tell me that my daughter was

in

> ICU in a coma. This has been the hardest and worse two weeks of my

> whole life. Not only did and do I have to deal with the death of

my

> baby, I have to find a way to get her children so that they are

taken

> care of. The boyfriend is the father of only one of her children,

so

> I may not to able to do much about him, but the other one is not

his

> and there is no father listed on his BC. So I have been keeping

busy

> trying to get everything together so that I can make sure he is

very

> well taken care of.....

>

> I also have a Thyroid problems and have been for about two years

now

> and have been on med's off and on for a little over two years now.

> I never know that having this problem could end your life in such

a

> way...

>

> I would like to find out anything and everything I can about

Thyroid

> Storm and hear from people that has had it or know of someone that

> has had it and the out come of it....

>

> Thank you so much God Bless you

>

> Debi

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I was so sorry to read about your loss, Debi. My heart goes out to

you! I have heard of thyroid storms but I'm not really sure what

can cause one. You might possibly find out more information about

the condition on the about thyroid.com site.

http://adam.about.com/encyclopedia/000400.htm

Did you or your daughter know that she had a thyroid condition?

I hope that you can get custody of those little ones. Please be

sure to take the best care of yourself right now as possible and

that includes getting your own thyroid treatment optimized. Do you

have a good doctor?

(((hugs))) and God Bless

>

> Hello,

>

> I would like to introduce myself to the group and give you a

little

> back ground info in myself and why I joined this group.

>

> I'm a 45 year old female that lives in Baytown, Texas which is

about

> 25 miles from Houston. I just lost my daughter on Dec 31,

> 2004, she was 28 years old we were told her had Thyroid Storm and

> that was the cause of death.

> I never even heard of Thyroid Storm until my daughter went into

the

> hospital on Dec 27 with a fever of 105 and heart rate of 180. My

> husband and I were out of town when all this happened and came

home

> when my daughters boyfriend called to tell me that my daughter was

in

> ICU in a coma. This has been the hardest and worse two weeks of my

> whole life. Not only did and do I have to deal with the death of

my

> baby, I have to find a way to get her children so that they are

taken

> care of. The boyfriend is the father of only one of her children,

so

> I may not to able to do much about him, but the other one is not

his

> and there is no father listed on his BC. So I have been keeping

busy

> trying to get everything together so that I can make sure he is

very

> well taken care of.....

>

> I also have a Thyroid problems and have been for about two years

now

> and have been on med's off and on for a little over two years now.

> I never know that having this problem could end your life in such

a

> way...

>

> I would like to find out anything and everything I can about

Thyroid

> Storm and hear from people that has had it or know of someone that

> has had it and the out come of it....

>

> Thank you so much God Bless you

>

> Debi

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Welcome Teri; I'm nicknamed Melt and have been diagnosed since 1977. Feel free

to jump right in and join our family and if you need any help just ask. Smiles

for your day, Melt

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Hello All,

I'm Teri, new to group. Technologically challenged so I'm still

working on getting my profile and history up

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Hey thanks for the welcome ! I'm in central California. Teri

>

> welcome teri!

> where ya from?

>

>

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Hi Teri, Welcome to the group! My name is . I live in Canada. I think there

are a few Stilligins here who live in California. How many of you(from

California) are there now? Take care.

Hey thanks for the welcome ! I'm in central California. Teri

>

> welcome teri!

> where ya from?

>

>

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Hello Larry, and welcome to our group. My name is Carey and I was diagnosed

with Stills in March of 2004. Any concerns or questions please feel free to

ask. We are here for you. This is an awesome group of caring people who are

willing to help.

Take Care,

Carey (NJ)

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Welcome to the group larry.

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Hi Larry! So glad you found us and a BIG welcome to you! Hope to share lots of

good stories/info with you. So nice to meet you fellow stilligan-brother :)

Lori in California

Larry Brown wrote:

Hello Everyone!

I am Larry from Lenoir, NC....I am recently diagnosed with Still's Disease

(2-2-05)....I am married, in my mid-40's, 4 children....two away from home and

two teenage girls at home, 4 dogs.....I am currently on med. leave....i'm a

Licensed Physical Therapist Assistant " working " with Geriatric Patients.....I

just wanted to introduce myself....I really am thankful to have found you

guys....pls. respond when you have time...thanks....prayers and thoughts for any

of you suffering today.....Larry

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Hi Larry . The elderly are so wonderful!! I am sorry you have this

disease...it is very scary!!! After having it for a long time (1972)..I have

found

out these things:

1(Most people do not know what it is like to be sick for more than 5 days

and when they say..you don't look sick say to yourself(you don't see my

illness..I don't see your brain )

2.) The worst part is temporary(even if it is 2 years.)

.. I have had days I could not pick up anything..or walk or drive a car ..

had fevers high ones for months on end...now I am 90% fine and that is great!!

My flares lasted 8 or 9 months..others have them longer..I have been good

in remissions..others not so great. The first flare is usually the worst. It

can change a bit everytime.

3) Rest rest rest..make sure in the future your family understands

this...they might not get it later on.

4)Use this group..it is more than a big help!!! We even have

parties(conferences..or cyber parties)..they are fun

Many hugs to you your family and friends..By the way..tell us more about

what s going on...any relief yet??? Hope so Liz NJ

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hi larry! nice to meet you! i'm on the other side of the country, in seattle

now, but will be

moving back to virginia in july! i also work in healthcare.. how have you

found it being on

the " other side " , being a patient? it's weird, isn't it? my strong feeling is

that any health

care worker that goes through serious illness comes out of it with a deeper

compassion for

and understanding of their patients.

i am sorry to hear you aren't working at the moment. i know that's really hard.

i hope that

you feel better very soon!

take care,

tw

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Hello Larry!!

Glad you found us and welcome!!! I have been with the group since 2002 and

still don't have a definite diagnosis but this group has accepted me 150%

and made me feel like family. This is bar far the best group you will find.

I am just 40 and developed symptms after 4 brain surgeries.

Best wishes

Lynn

-- new to group

Hello Everyone!

I am Larry from Lenoir, NC....I am recently diagnosed with Still's Disease

(2-2-05)....I am married, in my mid-40's, 4 children....two away from home

and two teenage girls at home, 4 dogs.....I am currently on med. leave....i

m a Licensed Physical Therapist Assistant " working " with Geriatric Patients.

....I just wanted to introduce myself....I really am thankful to have found

you guys....pls. respond when you have time...thanks....prayers and thoughts

for any of you suffering today.....Larry

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Welcome Larry!

You are in a great place!

love sharon

xxoo

> Hello Everyone!

> I am Larry from Lenoir, NC....I am recently diagnosed with Still's

> Disease (2-2-05)....I am married, in my mid-40's, 4 children....two

> away from home and two teenage girls at home, 4 dogs.....I am

> currently on med. leave....i'm a Licensed Physical Therapist Assistant

> " working " with Geriatric Patients.....I just wanted to introduce

> myself....I really am thankful to have found you guys....pls. respond

> when you have time...thanks....prayers and thoughts for any of you

> suffering today.....Larry

>

> __________________________________________________

>

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Welcome to the group Larry! My name is Gail, I live in KY and I was dx'd in

1995, but have had Still's since 1986. Hope you get back to work soon.

Thoughts for you and your family :-)

Gail

Larry Brown wrote:Hello Everyone!

I am Larry from Lenoir, NC....I am recently diagnosed with Still's Disease

(2-2-05)....I am married, in my mid-40's, 4 children....two away from home and

two teenage girls at home, 4 dogs.....I am currently on med. leave....i'm a

Licensed Physical Therapist Assistant " working " with Geriatric Patients.....I

just wanted to introduce myself....I really am thankful to have found you

guys....pls. respond when you have time...thanks....prayers and thoughts for any

of you suffering today.....Larry

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Hey Liz! Thanks for the welcome and the info....I didn't check my email

yesterday...I was soooooo tired....I do have relief, the joint pain is not

nearly so bad as it once was...now, though, I do have some numbness like from my

knees to my toes...especially after I have overdone things....Saturday, I was

able to return to work with a few of my elderly patients on my PRN job....it was

great getting back with these folks and just enjoying their spirits!!! I wasn't

able to do alot of therapy, so we mainly just sat and talked and joked and had

FUN....

You are right, the older folks are great!!!! I do appreciate you, liz...taking

the time to write me...this group already means so much to me....I look forward

to spending more time with our family!!! Oh yeah, my wife and children are

awesome and truly understand as much as they can what I am goin

through....others, my parents included, are like you said...well, you look

better.....amazing how prednisone can make you look filled-out and

" healthy " ....anyway, some don't want to see.....many blessings to you today

Liz.....look forward to speaking with you again...Larry in NC!!!

lizdaly101@... wrote:

Hi Larry . The elderly are so wonderful!! I am sorry you have this

disease...it is very scary!!! After having it for a long time (1972)..I have

found

out these things:

1(Most people do not know what it is like to be sick for more than 5 days

and when they say..you don't look sick say to yourself(you don't see my

illness..I don't see your brain )

2.) The worst part is temporary(even if it is 2 years.)

.. I have had days I could not pick up anything..or walk or drive a car ..

had fevers high ones for months on end...now I am 90% fine and that is great!!

My flares lasted 8 or 9 months..others have them longer..I have been good

in remissions..others not so great. The first flare is usually the worst. It

can change a bit everytime.

3) Rest rest rest..make sure in the future your family understands

this...they might not get it later on.

4)Use this group..it is more than a big help!!! We even have

parties(conferences..or cyber parties)..they are fun

Many hugs to you your family and friends..By the way..tell us more about

what s going on...any relief yet??? Hope so Liz NJ

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I don't get to write the loop too much lately - trying to play catch-up

financially and that takes bunches of time unfortunately and the goal seems

further and further away. Oh well.

Welcome to the loop - sorry you had to join us this way. I'm a southern

neighbor, Hollywood FL. You will be very glad you live in the south - got

stills

while living in Chicago area and the cold was awful for me. Much better in

florida with the heat.

I read a later email from you about returning to work. BE CAREFUL!!!

That was said yelling. I went back to work very soon as I'm self employed and

can only make money if I'm working. The steroids really mess with your head,

floaty-forgetful-tired-emotional-and on and on. You do a physical job and need

to KNOW what you know and sometimes the prednisone doesn't allow you to do

that. Plus, you have people's lives literally in your hands. What happens if

your muscles or joints give out and you're helping someone walk and can't help

them cuz you're out of commission.

I'm in sales on the phone and computer and I know that I've lost sales

because of Stills. I don't think as quickly, can't come with comebacks to

their objections as effectively, but mostly I find that when I should be

totally

focused on work, too many of MY thoughts are about the drugs and the side

effects, the pain and what to do with it, the money and how to pay the health

insurance and on and on. Not much room left upstairs with all those thoughts

messing with me to actually make much money selling unfortunately.

So, my gut reaction to your question about going back to work soon is

NO. If you can possibly help it. If you're the breadwinner in the family, you

may not have a choice. I didn't. While I'm not the breadwinner, my husband and

I are partners in some of our business and he couldn't do his stuff without

me doing my stuff. So I did the best I could and it kept a roof over our head

and food but that was about it. We owe bills up the yingyang now.

I'm 52 and have had stills since 1998. About once a quarter, I need a

complete weekend to sleep, just did that yesterday and today (couldn't make it

to the weekend this time). Fortunately I now work for a guy who's great about

that and all the doctors appointments.

One last note about returning to work too soon.... I was in the hospital

with a " fever of unknown origin " . this was my first hospitalization of my

life. I freaked out. My fever had hung around for about 6 weeks by this time

but the spikes were higher now - up to 103degrees. They kept me about 10 days.

My poor hubby (fiance then) didn't do any of the financial stuff and one day

he comes to my hospital room with all the financial stuff so I could pay

bills and figure out where the money went. All the nurses laughed but the

reality

was we divided the work such that I couldn't do his and he couldn't do mine.

Stupid! Some of the financial decisions that I made that day are still

coming back to bite me in the butt (along with the shots daily). My brain was

just

not working properly enough to make the decisions that needed to be made.

All of these years later, I do much better mentally, but it isn't the way it was

pre-stills unfortunatly. But when your brain is constantly fighting pain, it

can't be all there.One amazing drug I'm on is Kineret. Just started 6 weeks

ago and it's given me a few glimmers of my " old brain " first time in years

and years. I'm hoping the longer on Kinneret the more that will happen. It's

already helping me with the stills tremendously and I am incredibly grateful.

While you're at home you may want to begin to think about what you could

do that's not as physical or mentally demanding as the work you do. Maybe

training others to help themselves more. Like in this group, that might be a

start although most of us are financially broke now. But we'd give you terrific

referrences if you do that. Like, I really need to start doing water

exercises. The Kinneret is helping so much I decided to start swimming more. I

used

to go to the YMCA for arthritis swim but that's too much money for me and I

work during those hours. I was thinking of going 2 or 3 times and writting

everything I remembered and going on my own with hubby in our complex pool. I'd

buy a book with lots of pictures, diagrams and instructions with charts for

keeping track progress, schedules, etc.

So, I lied, that wasn't the last thing. But you asked a huge question

Larry. I wish you the very best of luck. Please don't overdue it - you'll feel

it later. And sometimes you need to change careers. I was a writer, published

a book and sold over $50,000 worth. Today, it's hard to stay focused to

write letters sometimes. So a book is out of the question. For now. So instead

I

do short sales pitches at work, little bit of paperwork and I'm done. Some

weeks I do terrific and other weeks I come home with zero check - straight

commission sometimes sucks! It's quite an adventure, sometimes I feel like I'm

in

the wild west and I just fought the buffalo, now I rest and then come the

bad guys, I fight them off, rest and then the bad guys friends come to get me.

It's not an easy life, but it does seem entertaining somethings how I keep

bouncing back. Went out with a friend last night who is so amazed at all the

little things we do to eeck out a living. He was the choir director at the

synogogue I belonged to in Chicago. My husband has fibromyalgia so he has

similar

problems. My friend says it is like those punching bags that you hit and

they pop right back at you. Things knock us down and somehow or another we find

something new to stand up to.

So that's my speech for this evening. You are now officially welcomed by

me to the stills loop. Be well Larry.

Carole in Hollywood Fl

In a message dated 3/5/2005 9:57:50 PM Eastern Standard Time,

stillsman00@... writes:

Hello Everyone!

I am Larry from Lenoir, NC....I am recently diagnosed with Still's Disease

(2-2-05)....I am married, in my mid-40's, 4 children....two away from home and

two teenage girls at home, 4 dogs.....I am currently on med. leave....i'm a

Licensed Physical Therapist Assistant " working " with Geriatric Patients.....I

just wanted to introduce myself....I really am thankful to have found you

guys....pls. respond when you have time...thanks....prayers and thoughts for

any of you suffering today.....Larry

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your doctor would need to be the one to tell you where

your zones are as they are based on your personal

best. Good luck

--- asthma

wrote:

> hi my name is lori and i am 34 yrs old. i have

multiple sclerosis and

> asthma, lately i find it harder to control my

asthma..i am using my

> nebulizer machine every 6 hours and i just got a

peak flow meter but

> thenumbers werent set. is the lower yellow/red

suppose to be set at

> 250? and green/yellow at 450? can someone help me.

i also take

> singulair and advair. thank you.

>

>

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your doctor would need to be the one to tell you where

your zones are as they are based on your personal

best. Good luck

--- asthma

wrote:

> hi my name is lori and i am 34 yrs old. i have

multiple sclerosis and

> asthma, lately i find it harder to control my

asthma..i am using my

> nebulizer machine every 6 hours and i just got a

peak flow meter but

> thenumbers werent set. is the lower yellow/red

suppose to be set at

> 250? and green/yellow at 450? can someone help me.

i also take

> singulair and advair. thank you.

>

>

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your doctor would need to be the one to tell you where

your zones are as they are based on your personal

best. Good luck

--- asthma

wrote:

> hi my name is lori and i am 34 yrs old. i have

multiple sclerosis and

> asthma, lately i find it harder to control my

asthma..i am using my

> nebulizer machine every 6 hours and i just got a

peak flow meter but

> thenumbers werent set. is the lower yellow/red

suppose to be set at

> 250? and green/yellow at 450? can someone help me.

i also take

> singulair and advair. thank you.

>

>

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I checked out Capitol School as well and know some people there. I have heard

good things as long as you fit the profile. First of all, I think they only go

to 2nd grade. Also most of their kids did not qualify for special ed services

from their school district. Two people I know that tried to get into Capitol

with HFA or PDD-NOS were told they needed the Horizon program (or whatever they

call the ABA program these days).

mychele_chapin wrote:

I am new to this group and I am SO excited that I found it. I live in

Bastrop and I have a 8 year old PDD son. I am looking for alot of

information or thoughts please.

First a support group????

Does anyone know of any social groups for his age? He is really

lacking on social/play skills and I would like to find something for

him to get into.

Also, anyone heard good/bad things about Capitol school in Austin. I

took my son for consideration for next year but I was a little

disappointed in what they told me. Just curious on others feelings

and whether it was just the way I read into it. My son needs more

hands on educational teaching rather than what the public schools can

provide. Are they any suggestions?

Im also going to look into St. Francis this summer, but I may also

just keep him where he is also. The school provides good services,

speech, ot, AT and counseling but its just the academics, how they

teach that he has a hard time with.

Thanks so much for your help!

Texas Autism Advocacy

www.TexasAutismAdvocacy.org

Texas Disability Network

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---yes these can help

Tell me what you think if you will about this info and what you do

with this info

you will need good analytical skills btw

Tackling asthma

Certain principles can be employed in dealing with this

problem ,this information is mainly taken from the Edgar cayce

research material and also combined with other principles.

Principle 1

One of the most important principles outlined by cayce and others

where people are suffering from any condition is to do everything

they can to help others in whatever capacity they can. Cayce

frequently mentioned that this would bring faster results. This is a

great ingredient in helping all people to transmute their own karma.

See other pages on this particularly important treatment.

Principle2

According to the book asthma a complete guide by Professor brostoff

and gamlin

Who have reviewed thousands of pieces of work by various

departments, doctors, and researchers, there is a vast amount of

knowledge on the subject. Those people interested in the subject

would I feel do well to consult their book ISBN 07475 4043 8

These are some of the findings

Numerous people have benefited greatly by doing yoga.

By identifying their own common triggers or allergic reactions

people's lives can be helped greatly.

Strengthening the breathing muscles has also been of great benefit

and research has proven this point.

Check that you are not taking drugs that make your asthma worse Such

as aspirin and in some people, certain drugs for glaucoma, high

blood pressure, angina, migraine and thyroid problems.

Avoid chest infections.

Protect yourself from pollution indoor and outdoor.

Check your workplace for allergens and irritants, this accounts for

a great many problems.

Peak flow meters put people in touch with their airways and give an

early warning of asthma attacks.

Review your drugs the amounts taken and the inhaler devices, some

people go on taking these drugs for months without need.

Professor brostof recommends osteopathy treatment

Vigorous exercise is highly recommended, studies have shown that

people who do exercise require fewer drugs

Lose weight, studies have shown people who are more overweight have

a higher chance of developing the disease.

There appears that there is good evidence now that the western diet

with its high fat and salt intake and low fruit and vegetables is

part of the reason for the epidemic of asthma.

Swimming does seem to help some people with reports of peak flow

improving after having done the swim, other reports indicate that

the humidity helps the airways.

Factors which seem to encourage asthma- according to our learned

professor

1.Allergens from dust, pet's pollen, moulds either in the mothers

blood during pregnancy or in the air at birth.

2.Natural antibodies in the mothers breast milk

3.Other microbes

4.Natural bacteria in the gut, which can be altered by taking

antibiotics.

5.Parsitic worms

6.Vaccinations

7Toxic chemicals from tobacco in the mothers bloodstream if she

smokes when pregnant.

8Irritants such as tobacco smoke and nitrogen dioxide in the air

that the baby breathes.

Edgar Cayce approach to healing Asthma

There are quite a few principles which cayce advocated

1.All healing comes from the infinite – that means from attunement

and harmony with our spiritual source

2. At the same time each person must take responsibility for his or

her health and healing process. No one can simply sit back waiting

passively for healing to occur.

3.All healing is the changing of the vibrations within no one can

hate his neighbor and not get stomach upsets as a result. Thoughts

are real and have weight and value.

4.Cayce warned people about certain drugs and talked about them as

palliatives that deceive the soul with half-truths and temporary

relief.

5 He also mentioned that the very best treatment procedure could

bring about a temporary worsening of conditions. If we did not

recognize this we could give up just as there was a change in our

health.

Emphasis was also placed upon self-acceptance. As we rid ourselves

of self-condemnation we make room for healing forces to work.

Optimism and hope .We are encouraged to expect healing

Patience, we must be willing to invest whatever time and trouble it

takes.

6 We are encouraged to use creative visualization to stimulate our

own healing, which usually takes more than a few sessions.

7.A commitment to a purposeful life .Not just any purpose but one

which reflects care for other people. To help balance our karma.

8. There appears to be quite a few causes for this problem.Cayce

gave 73 readings for 23 people and specified the causes to have its

origin in the neuralgic stimuli which were touched off by either

lesions and adhesions in the bronchi and larynx or by pressures

exerted in the autonomic ganglia and their connections with the

cerebrospinal system.

In other words spinal problems were involved occurring mainly in

the dorsal and cervical area. Poor spinal misalignments combined

with certain other factors such as stress or poor diet would also

cause the bronchi to constrict bringing on an asthmatic attack.

Frequently congestion would result and toxins which were not fully

eliminated from the lungs would cause a reaction in the kidneys and

liver. Glands associated with the assimilation system would also

come involved.

An interesting exercise was mentioned for strengthening the lungs,

this came I believe from Harold reilly he found that by blowing up

several balloons a day this aided conditions of asthma, emphysema

and other disorders.

In certain cases the elimination process had been disturbed so

The eliminations, which may have been disturbed, have to be brought

back to normal and in balance with the assimilations. The deep and

superficial circulation which is often disturbed should be restored.

The glands of the body should be brought also into balance.

Irritation of an external nature should be eliminated. Dietary

adjustments should be made, which are very important with a severe

restriction of sweets, only honey once a day was allowed no white

bread potatoes tomatoes or dried beans or rice. All fruits

vegetables and nuts were desirable Fowl of fish for protein.

Colonics should be given weekly for 2-3 weeks then perhaps once

monthly. Enemas could be used if colonics were not available.

Atomidine can be given in a series this is to balance the glands one

drop daily in half a glass of water for five days stop for three

days then to two drops daily for five days stop for three days. Then

back to one drop daily then a rest and start the regime again.

These factors applied in a therapeutic regime need to be done with

patience and persistence.

Acute attacks of asthma were controlled in various ways although it

is implied that when other forms of therapy have begun the attacks

would become less severe.

Calcidin 1-5 drops in 5 ounces of warm water sipped every 15-20 mins

is one suggestion.

Atomidine 6 drops in a tablespoon of water sipped entirely once

every 6 hrs is another.

Special inhalants were also advisee such as to 4 oz of grain alcohol

add oil of eucalyptus 20 mins, rectified oil of turpentine

5mns,compund tincture of benzoin 15mns.

Apple brandy fumes from a charred oak keg were also recommended this

was prepared by taking either a 1- 2 gall charred oak keg and

filling it with pure apple brandy just half a gallon. Drill 2 holes

in the top and breathe the fumes twice a day, the keg should be

placed near a heat appliance of some kind to enable the fumes to

come off readily. This acts as a purifier of tissue but also allows

the tissue to be revivified.

Of interest to a male adult

General advice was to avoid sweets entirely, as these would cause

irritation and also avoid tea and coffee or any of that nature

36-42 osteopathic adjustments applying heat at the same time.

Calcidin recommended.

4. Ensure your diet is good raw salad once a day ideal or 5 portions

vegetables or fruit daily ensure adequate protein women 60 grams day

men around 70grams. Ensure you get adequate minerals all of them

particularly calcium and magnesium, iron in the right proportions

and combinations. See Adele book lets eat right to keep fit

ISBN 0046410171.

Ensure adequate water intake of the order 1-2 litres per day that's

right water. Blood sugar make sure you are not suffering low blood

sugar as this can very quickly affect your mood.

Also according to a known therapist who says that some of her

patients had food intolerance's or reactions to certain foods which

were a significant contributory cause of depression .when certain

foods were taken out it seems immediate results were found.

So it might pay you to have a test done on the relationship of your

foods and you. It seems a great many benefits are obtained when you

cut out foods that don't suit you.

12 Spiritual healing, Reiki, find a good healer - but someone you

feel an attunement with at a soul level otherwise you can have

negative results making your situation worse. We are know witnessing

one of the great turnings in our century where old healing practices

are re-emerging such as Reiki healing, Colour healing, Seichim,

Spiritual healing, Osteopathy, Massage and many others.

Some of these are thousands of years old, Spiritual healing is one

of those. It is exactly the same kind of energy used by Jesus in so

many of his healings.

Put simply Spiritual Healing, Reiki is the transference of certain

energies through a channel which could be a person or an animal or

even the planet, the wavelengths of this healing energy are well

outside the limits of most scientific equipment but a lot of people

can feel this energy .

The energy in my experience has been very uplifting and beautiful

which can touch and vastly influence parts of us such as the spirit

or soul or our mental selves and our physical selves. It can bring a

steadiness and balance and sense of well-being second to none .Its

limits as to its use are in the realms of the infinite.

A very simplistic analogy would be to liken it to a massive energy

reservoir which can be tapped into by people and animals which act

as the conduits of this energy and like wires of electricity some of

which are bigger than others and so therefore big wires can transmit

more energy than smaller wires.

Bearing this point in mind the reader can soon appreciate that going

to one healer can be vastly different than going to another as it is

with so many things whether it be dentists, doctors, policeman or

what have you.

Spiritual Healing is natural healing energy, which is present in

this universe. Spiritual healers work in many different ways to some

it is the laying on of hands onto a person or animal, to others it

can be sent through the power of thought. To be even in the presence

of some healers can have a profound and beneficial effect on people

and one wishes that there were more people giving off just as

beautiful vibrations as these people were this world would truly

transform it.

p

In asthma , " JUST ANGEL " <angel_has_ms2@y...> wrote:

> hi my name is lori and i am 34 yrs old. i have multiple sclerosis

and

> asthma, lately i find it harder to control my asthma..i am using

my

> nebulizer machine every 6 hours and i just got a peak flow meter

but

> thenumbers werent set. is the lower yellow/red suppose to be set

at

> 250? and green/yellow at 450? can someone help me. i also take

> singulair and advair. thank you.

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Multiple sclerosis

Be sure that you have read carefully the cayce philosophy page as

missing any one of the principles there could cost you in some form –

we know we have done it.

One of the most important principles overlooked by thousands if not

millions of people outlined by cayce and others where people are

suffering from any condition is to do everything they can to help

others in whatever capacity they can. Cayce frequently mentioned

that this would bring faster results. This is a great ingredient in

helping all people to transmute their own karma. See other pages on

this particularly important aspect.

Multiple sclerosis is a disorder involving the inflammation and

degeneration of the myelin (a fatty material that insulates nerves)

in the brain and spinal cord. The loss of myelin is accompanied by a

disruption in the ability of the nerves to conduct electrical

impulses to and from the brain. This results in symptoms including

balance and coordination problems, weakness (especially in the

legs), visual disturbances, fatigue, bladder and bowel problems, and

cognitive and emotional disturbances.

These are extracts of the report which was prepared for the advisory

board of physicians based on the Edgar cayce readings.

Cayce gave a total of 100 readings for 69 separate people. Definite

diagnosis was difficult in some of the cases because of a lack of

medical history. However it appears from the report that 34 cases

have a high probability of being M.S.Twenty two cases seem to be

less certain and 13 cases seem to point to other illnesses and in

many of these cases Parkinson's was most probable.

M.S. A Drugless therapy approach.

Cayce sited the causes of M.S.as being varied but briefly it was the

lack of gold in the body which caused a glandular imbalance which in

turn caused a hormonal deficiency.This hormone was said to be vital

to the proper functioning of the nerves.

Also it can be stated that even with enough gold present in the

system the body still has to have the ability to use it, it was this

ability that was lacking in some of the cases that cayce dealt with.

The body has to have the ability to absorb or assimilate the gold.

Genetic factors would come into play in dealing with these issues.

Some people having a greater capacity to absorb gold than others it

would appear.

The destruction of the myelin sheaths probably occurred because of

the poisons within the cell walls from the lack of the nervous

forces.

The effect of the incorrect mental attitude which had its effect

upon the body especially the glands was also cited as a causative

factor in a few cases.

People must be positive in their thoughts and their words and their

actions frequently cayce mentioned this to many people indeed where

some people had a lack of progress cayce frequently pointed out it

was because their attitudes were holding them back. They had to be

prepared to serve others, to have a willingness to aid.

Treatment

Took the form of

1.Application of the atomic effect of gold into the body using the

cayce invention called the wet cell appliance, the gold is not given

orally but given as a vibration using electrical wires, this cayce

electrical invention was mentioned in hundreds of cases and was used

with great success.The wet cell appliance can be made or bought,

those wishing to make one of these devices would be well advised to

consult the book

The radial appliance and the wet cell battery by Doug s and

Mcmillin of the meridian institute, this book or the machine

itself can be purchased from john walsh at the Edgar cayce centre

England or from the Heritage store at Virginia beach or from the

A.R.E.headqarters Virginia beach.

The wet cell solution was to be prepared in the following manner, to

1.5 galls of distilled water add 2 pounds of copper sulphate, 1 oz

of concentrated sulphuric acid 30 grams of zinc, 0.5 pound of willow

charcoal. The gold chloride solution should be used at a strength of

I -3grains of gold chloride to 1oz of distilled water in the

solution jar to which the nickel pole goes through, however in as

many days iodine trichloride was to be used on alternate days from

the gold solution. Spirits of camphor was advised in 13 cases and

sometimes all three solutions were to be used in a three day

series.The nickel plate was to be placed on the umbilical lacteal

duct centre which is located on the right upper quadrant of the

abdomen a point of the distell end of the gall bladder. Various

positions were to be used along the spine for the copper plate but

the most frequent position was the ninth and tenth thoracic

vertebrae and at the level of the fourth lumbar.The wet cell was to

be recharged every 30 days and was to be used each day for between

30-60 mins. The best time for this to be given was before retiring

at night though not an absolute rule. The strength of the gold

solution varied between 1-3 grains of gold chloride in the distilled

water. The amount of sulfuric acid varied between 1 and 1.5 ounces.

Sometimes willow charcoal was to added to the wet cell and sometimes

not.

2.Massage was to be given immediately after the wet cell treatment

starting at the base of the skull and then working down the spine

and out to the bodies extremities using a circular motion and

sometimes massage was recommended to the chest and abdomen also. 56%

of the case studies were to use a combination of oils consisting of

2 oz of peanut oil mixed with 2oz olive oil and a quarter oz of

lanolin.25% were recommended an olive oil base plus peanut oil with

various combinations and amounts of Russian white oil, oil of

cedarwood, oil of sassafras root, oil of pine needles, nujol,

lanolin, oil of wintergreen, tincture of benzoin, tincture of myrrh,

whithhazel, spirits of camphor, spirits of turpentine, mutton suet

and oil of mustard. The most frequently used oils were the first

seven used in the preceding list. Preferably given daily for no more

than an hour.

3.Iodine therapies in the form of iodine trichloride by mouth was

recommended in 6 cases and eating seafood as a source of iodine in

the diet .In about 53% of cases some form of iodine was recommended.

4.Dietary changes were particularly advised, Low fat, foods

containing B Vitamins wheat germ or brewers yeast, seafood and any

light meats to be boiled and no fried foods. Daily Raw vegetables

such as watercress carrots, celery, beets and salads with gelatin.

Also many fruits were to be eaten.

5. A hopeful and positive prayerful attitude from the patient and

the helper was emphasized and considered essential.

6. Cayce emphasized this is a long term process giving three to

seven years as being the norm to gain recovery.

7.A helper to administer the wet cell treatments and give the

massage is almost an essential ingredient in achieving the

consistency of treatment which is an essential element in achieving

success.

8.Where possible the patient is to do everything they can to help

others in whatever capacity they can. Cayce frequently mentioned

that this will bring faster resultsThis is a great ingredient in

helping all people to transmute karma. See other pages on this

particularly important treatment.

Although not specifically recommended by cayce for ms, Spiritual

healing has the capacity to be very beneficial in all illnesses- see

other pages on this fascinating subject.

The original files on M.S. can be obtained through the A.R.E.at

www.are-cayce.com

More specific details of the wet cell ,oils, diet and massage can

be obtained through the A.R.E. or one of the many thousands of Edgar

cayce web sites.

There are two must have books Reba Ann karps book encyclopedia of

healing ISBN 0446 30981-8 which gives lots of treatments on all

manor of diseases.

And the Edgar cayce handbook for health by Harold reilly and Ruth

hagy brod

Isdn0-02601960-4 Obtained from the cayce centre

Actual readings and details of the wet cell appliance can be

obtained through the A.R.E.or the Edgar Cayce centre up in Durham 13

prospect terrace, new stanley, CO Durham, England DH9 7TR 01207

237696 E mail cayce.walsh.@... ask for one of the circulating

files on M.S.

The meridian institute, www.meridian institute.com/

ran by a team of doctors undertook a research project to explore

the cayce protocol, details can be obtained from their site but

after just six months all people doing the protocol had improved.

A brief summary of the meridian institute research project that had

nine participants.

This was undertaken over a 6 month period following the cayce

protocol.

Physical symptoms were assessed both by physiological measurements

of the autonomic nervous system (galvanic skin response and heart

rate variability) and by subjective questionnaires.

Mental/emotional/spiritual states were assessed by subjective

questionnaires.

Subjects who followed the protocol consistently (but none completely

or perfectly) averaged moderate improvement in MS symptoms over six

months, on both subjective symptom checklists and questionnaires,

and objective measurement of GSR. Three out of the seven reported

major improvement.

This rate of improvement was consistent with the typical Cayce

prognosis of gradual improvement over an extended period of time.

Continuation for a full year and attention to complete compliance

with the protocol should produce even stronger results.

Multiple sclerosis is a disorder involving the inflammation and

degeneration of the myelin (a fatty material that insulates nerves)

in the brain and spinal cord. The loss of myelin is accompanied by a

disruption in the ability of the nerves to conduct electrical

impulses to and from the brain. This results in symptoms including

balance and coordination problems, weakness (especially in the

legs), visual disturbances, fatigue, bladder and bowel problems, and

cognitive and emotional disturbances. In conventional medicine,

multiple sclerosis is thought to be an " autoimmune " disease, in

which the body attacks its own cells and tissues. Heredity,

infectious, and environmental factors may all play a role.

As an added treatment Spiritual healing is well advised .See the

information on this fascinating subject on the other pages.

Colloidal silver and M.S.

Here is the journal of one person's experience with Colloidal

Silver. I would caution you that if you decide to try this, be sure

to use only the highest quality CS and one with the smallest

particle size.

If you search the Internet for Colloidal Silver, you may find an

article from the medical establishment about one lady whose skin has

supposedly turned gray from taking CS. BUT...she obviously took some

with a very large particle size and she must have taken way too much

of it. Don't let this propaganda scare you away from CS. The FDA,

the AMA and other forces in the medical system - especially the

PharmaCartel - want to stop Colloidal Silver production and use

simply because it is an incredibly cheap and effective germ killer

and remedy for many ailments.

Feedback

I have been on Betaseron since it came on the market 6 or 7 years? I

would say it did as promised, I have had no exacerbation since I

began the injections. However, everyday I hate to get up to see what

additional symptom I have to add to my list to get used to.

My right had is numb, my feet, especially my toes are numb. When I

get hot or tired my right leg does not lift well. It drags when I

walk. After a day at work, I practically have to crawl to my car. I

must hold on to a wall at all times. I really should use a cane. I

cannot even go up a curb without holding on to someone or something.

No way can I climb a ladder.

When I sit for any length of time, My legs stiffen and get spasms

and I have to wait awhile before I can walk. It appears that I have

had too much to drink. I really should use a cane, but usually I can

take my companion's arm to get to my car.

If I sit on the floor for any reason, like play with my

grandchildren, I must first get on my knees, then on all four's,

then finally I can get up. Just like a cow. I cannot use help

getting up from the floor, I need more control. I sit on the floor

as little as possible.

When it is hot, I must wear a cold pack vest or I cannot walk. My

feet are hot all the time, and I cannot sleep unless my feet are

uncovered.

I have night paralysis. I must throw my body in order to turn to

another side. My legs are locked in the fetal position and it is a

real chore to get them unlocked and able to walk. I must use a cane

to get to the bathroom during the night. It is about ten feet from

my bed.

I drank 2 oz of Silver water twice a day - in the morning & at three

PM.

Day four I begin to drink 8 oz of Silver water two times per day. I

seem to have more energy and the end of the day seems to come a

little later. I do not drag as much to my car.

Day 12 the night paralyzation seems to be easing. I can get out of

bed with more ease

Day 14 through Day 18 my fingers and toes are tingling more and

more. My toes are aching. As the days go by my fingertips seem to be

aching, also.

Day 20 I seem to have surreal feelings in my fingers. It's like a

far away out of body feeling. They still ache.

Day 21, I am getting out of bed much easier and quicker. I climbed a

ladder at work, and I am not nearly so tired when I leave work. I

can actually walk to my car without

holding on to the wall. I did some things on the floor at work, and

was able to get up without too much trouble.

Week four, The bottom of my feet are tingling,

I could feel cool bathroom tile on bottom of my feet.

My legs ached all night. It was very painful, I wanted to scream

out. My legs hurt a great deal. The next morning I was able to walk

further than I had in years. Mike and I walked about four blocks

that morning. I feel stronger and stronger every day.

Week five, More and more feeling in both fingers and toes every day.

Less surreal and more natural. Both toes and finger get cold.

Week 10, Seem to have small changes every day. Again my toes ached

for several days, then I had more feeling in my toes. It's as though

I have a non-feeling pad at the bottom of my feet, but feeling all

the way around. Lie an animal's paw with the padded bottom. It seems

I hurt for a few days, then something feels better.

Week 12, I feel like a caterpillar in a cocoon. I wonder if they

have pain during the metamorphosis. The bottom of my feet are no

longer numb, the fingers on my right hand tingle only at the very

tips. I don't even think about lifting a heavy container with my

right hand. For years, I wouldn't dare lift, or I would drop

whatever I was holding. I poured coffee from a pot without even

thinking about it, until I noticed myself. Doing it. There is NO WAY

I could be working the hours I have this Christmas, if not for the

water. Last year, I had to wear my cooling vest all day every day,

and when I went home I could barely walk to my car. Some days I

literally dragged my right leg to get to my car. I had to hold on to

the building to get around the corner and into my car. When I got

home I actually crawled on my hands and knees to get up the steps.

This year I never once had to wear my cooling vest. I walk normally

to my car at the end of the day, and the steps are not too much of a

problem. I still go up one leg only, but it is stronger. The fatigue

is minimized, also. I've worked many more hours this year than last.

Week 14: I started making my own water about three weeks ago, and

I've had to send samples to San for testing. It seems the

probe they sent me was not working to full potential, and for about

a week I was drinking water with very minimal amounts of silver.

After the week I KNEW IT! I was regressing. Things were not working

so well, again. I was regressing. Thankfully we figured out the

problem and within a couple of days I was back on track. Thank God.

This set back has convinced me even more. As if that were possible.

I have my life back. I will never give up silver water.

Week 20: Christmas Week. I had 16 people for dinner Christmas eve. I

had 7 people for dinner Christmas day, I worked 11 hours the day

after Christmas, and I had 14 people for dinner the next day. That

is four days out of four I entertained at my house. I can't remember

when I did something like that. I still have night paralysis, but

not nearly as bad as it used to be, and I have a lot of stiffness

still when I sit a long time, but nothing near as bad as it used to

be. My energy level is very high.

Week 24: It seems I was at a standstill for the last several weeks.

I didn't see much improvement, but then I saw NO back sliding - Just

status quo. This is OK with me if I don't improve much. I've come

such a long way back. However, the stiffness & night paralysis could

improve. I drink at least 16 oz of water per day. Some days when I

have a lot to do, or am especially busy I will drink 24 oz.

Week 28: I have been drinking 24 oz of water almost every day. The

night paralysis is lessening. It is not taking as long for my legs

to get moving in the night or in the morning. More of the numb parts

of my body have feeling.

I am a retired chiropractor, massage therapist, and registered

nurse.

I developed multiple sclerosis (MS) during the summer of 1991.

Some of my symptoms included numbness, blurred vision, difficulty

swallowing, tremors, muscle spasms, depression, fatigue, failing

memory, slurred speech, and bladder dysfunction.

Following Cayce's recommendations over a period of about two years

resulted in the gradual disappearance of ALL my MS symptoms.

I wrote a 120 page, illustrated book about my experience, The Edgar

Cayce Way of Overcoming Multiple Sclerosis: Vibratory Medicine,

which may be read online without cost or obligation by visiting

http://members.tripod.com/~dudley_delany/index-70.html

If you are a member of the A.R.E., you can purchase or borrow a set

of Cayce's readings on scoliosis, Circulating File 456F, by calling

1- USA

A number of years ago, a physician undertook an in-depth study of

the Cayce material on MS. The results of his efforts are presented

in a monograph entitled Medical Research Bulletin on Multiple

Sclerosis. To purchase a copy of this publication, call

1- USA

In my opinion, Edgar Cayce's approach to treating scoliosis has

great potential and merits most careful consideration.

In asthma , " JUST ANGEL " <angel_has_ms2@y...> wrote:

> hi my name is lori and i am 34 yrs old. i have multiple sclerosis

and

> asthma, lately i find it harder to control my asthma..i am using

my

> nebulizer machine every 6 hours and i just got a peak flow meter

but

> thenumbers werent set. is the lower yellow/red suppose to be set

at

> 250? and green/yellow at 450? can someone help me. i also take

> singulair and advair. thank you.

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