New here

February 15, 2005

I've also read that the one drug that is causing the problem only

does so if it is not taken with the other one. But I don't know

how true this is. I don't know what problem you had with Advair,

but I'm sure it makes you wonder.

---

In asthma , mrslentz@a... wrote:

> They said they would like it taken off the market do to the one

drug that

> makes up Advair causing deaths in some people. And after reading

the side

> effects and what happend to me I can see why. But I to have only

been helped by

> Advair so I have such mixed feelings.

>

February 15, 2005

I've also read that the one drug that is causing the problem only

does so if it is not taken with the other one. But I don't know

how true this is. I don't know what problem you had with Advair,

but I'm sure it makes you wonder.

---

In asthma , mrslentz@a... wrote:

> They said they would like it taken off the market do to the one

drug that

> makes up Advair causing deaths in some people. And after reading

the side

> effects and what happend to me I can see why. But I to have only

been helped by

> Advair so I have such mixed feelings.

>

February 16, 2005

Wow! I am shocked! The two drugs that make up Advair are Flovent and Serevent. It would be my guess that it is the serevent causing problems...however, I do not know that for sure. I have heard that serevent is suppose to be taken off the market but I just assumed that was because it isn't used much anymore and people who are on it were having the serevent replaced by the Advair. My son has an appointment on Friday with his pulmonologist. I plan to ask her what the scoop is on that! Thanks for the info, though! Im still trying to get my jaw up off the floor!

Tonya --- "" wrote: Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2005 14:33:10 -0000To: asthma Subject: Re: New HereI've also read that the one drug that is causing the problem only does so if it is not taken with the other one. But I don't know how true this is. I don't know what problem you had with Advair, but I'm sure it makes you wonder.> They said they would like it taken off the market do to the one drug that > makes up Advair causing deaths in some people. And after reading the side > effects and what happend to me I can see why. But I to have only been helped by > Advair so I have such mixed feelings.> > Check out Ivy Tech State College and Go Further, Faster.http://www.ivy.tec.in.us, sign up for your free email at http://www.ivytech.net

February 16, 2005

Wow! I am shocked! The two drugs that make up Advair are Flovent and Serevent. It would be my guess that it is the serevent causing problems...however, I do not know that for sure. I have heard that serevent is suppose to be taken off the market but I just assumed that was because it isn't used much anymore and people who are on it were having the serevent replaced by the Advair. My son has an appointment on Friday with his pulmonologist. I plan to ask her what the scoop is on that! Thanks for the info, though! Im still trying to get my jaw up off the floor!

Tonya --- "" wrote: Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2005 14:33:10 -0000To: asthma Subject: Re: New HereI've also read that the one drug that is causing the problem only does so if it is not taken with the other one. But I don't know how true this is. I don't know what problem you had with Advair, but I'm sure it makes you wonder.> They said they would like it taken off the market do to the one drug that > makes up Advair causing deaths in some people. And after reading the side > effects and what happend to me I can see why. But I to have only been helped by > Advair so I have such mixed feelings.> > Check out Ivy Tech State College and Go Further, Faster.http://www.ivy.tec.in.us, sign up for your free email at http://www.ivytech.net

February 16, 2005

Wow! I am shocked! The two drugs that make up Advair are Flovent and Serevent. It would be my guess that it is the serevent causing problems...however, I do not know that for sure. I have heard that serevent is suppose to be taken off the market but I just assumed that was because it isn't used much anymore and people who are on it were having the serevent replaced by the Advair. My son has an appointment on Friday with his pulmonologist. I plan to ask her what the scoop is on that! Thanks for the info, though! Im still trying to get my jaw up off the floor!

Tonya --- "" wrote: Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2005 14:33:10 -0000To: asthma Subject: Re: New HereI've also read that the one drug that is causing the problem only does so if it is not taken with the other one. But I don't know how true this is. I don't know what problem you had with Advair, but I'm sure it makes you wonder.> They said they would like it taken off the market do to the one drug that > makes up Advair causing deaths in some people. And after reading the side > effects and what happend to me I can see why. But I to have only been helped by > Advair so I have such mixed feelings.> > Check out Ivy Tech State College and Go Further, Faster.http://www.ivy.tec.in.us, sign up for your free email at http://www.ivytech.net

February 16, 2005

Tonya,

I bet that was Xolair. The cost is about right. It is new and you

either get a shot every 2 weeks or once a month depending on your

IgE levels. I think they are doing trials on children now. How old

is your son? You might check out their web site, it is made by

Genentech and Novartis, lots of good info there. Also if you don't

have insurance they have a program where it is free if you qualify.

There is a group on Yahoo where you can get lots of great info from

people on Xoliar. The name of the group is Xolair. It has really

helped them a lot, as it has me. I've been able to work in the yard

for the first time since I got this asthma and allergies.-And I also

am going to get off the pred completely. Anyway, Xoliar is like a

miracle for me.

On the Advair, It was the Serevent, and I think people were using it

as a rescue inhaler. Also, it was when it was used alone, not in a

combo like Advair.

-- In asthma , Tonya Stoll <tstoll@i...> wrote:

>

February 17, 2005

,

Thanks for info. My son is 7 years old. His pulmonologist said he was too young right now. Maybe in a few years. (I actually think he said around 12 yrs of age) But I will ask again about it tomorrow when we go see the pulomonologist.

Again, thanks for all the info. I will look into it.

Tonya --- "" wrote: Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 17:13:07 -0000To: asthma Subject: Re: New HereTonya,I bet that was Xolair. The cost is about right. It is new and you either get a shot every 2 weeks or once a month depending on your IgE levels. I think they are doing trials on children now. How old is your son? You might check out their web site, it is made by Genentech and Novartis, lots of good info there. Also if you don't have insurance they have a program where it is free if you qualify. There is a group on Yahoo where you can get lots of great info from people on Xoliar. The name of the group is Xolair. It has really helped them a lot, as it has me. I've been able to work in the yard for the first time since I got this asthma and allergies.-And I also am going to get off the pred completely. Anyway, Xoliar is like a miracle for me.On the Advair, It was the Serevent, and I think people were using it as a rescue inhaler. Also, it was when it was used alone, not in a combo like Advair.-- In asthma , Tonya Stoll <tstoll@i...> wrote:> Check out Ivy Tech State College and Go Further, Faster.http://www.ivy.tec.in.us, sign up for your free email at http://www.ivytech.net

February 17, 2005

,

Thanks for info. My son is 7 years old. His pulmonologist said he was too young right now. Maybe in a few years. (I actually think he said around 12 yrs of age) But I will ask again about it tomorrow when we go see the pulomonologist.

Again, thanks for all the info. I will look into it.

Tonya --- "" wrote: Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 17:13:07 -0000To: asthma Subject: Re: New HereTonya,I bet that was Xolair. The cost is about right. It is new and you either get a shot every 2 weeks or once a month depending on your IgE levels. I think they are doing trials on children now. How old is your son? You might check out their web site, it is made by Genentech and Novartis, lots of good info there. Also if you don't have insurance they have a program where it is free if you qualify. There is a group on Yahoo where you can get lots of great info from people on Xoliar. The name of the group is Xolair. It has really helped them a lot, as it has me. I've been able to work in the yard for the first time since I got this asthma and allergies.-And I also am going to get off the pred completely. Anyway, Xoliar is like a miracle for me.On the Advair, It was the Serevent, and I think people were using it as a rescue inhaler. Also, it was when it was used alone, not in a combo like Advair.-- In asthma , Tonya Stoll <tstoll@i...> wrote:> Check out Ivy Tech State College and Go Further, Faster.http://www.ivy.tec.in.us, sign up for your free email at http://www.ivytech.net

February 17, 2005

,

Thanks for info. My son is 7 years old. His pulmonologist said he was too young right now. Maybe in a few years. (I actually think he said around 12 yrs of age) But I will ask again about it tomorrow when we go see the pulomonologist.

Again, thanks for all the info. I will look into it.

Tonya --- "" wrote: Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 17:13:07 -0000To: asthma Subject: Re: New HereTonya,I bet that was Xolair. The cost is about right. It is new and you either get a shot every 2 weeks or once a month depending on your IgE levels. I think they are doing trials on children now. How old is your son? You might check out their web site, it is made by Genentech and Novartis, lots of good info there. Also if you don't have insurance they have a program where it is free if you qualify. There is a group on Yahoo where you can get lots of great info from people on Xoliar. The name of the group is Xolair. It has really helped them a lot, as it has me. I've been able to work in the yard for the first time since I got this asthma and allergies.-And I also am going to get off the pred completely. Anyway, Xoliar is like a miracle for me.On the Advair, It was the Serevent, and I think people were using it as a rescue inhaler. Also, it was when it was used alone, not in a combo like Advair.-- In asthma , Tonya Stoll <tstoll@i...> wrote:> Check out Ivy Tech State College and Go Further, Faster.http://www.ivy.tec.in.us, sign up for your free email at http://www.ivytech.net

February 18, 2005

Tonya,

I think Xolair is approved for over 12 now, but they are doing

trials on kids under 12. If your son could qualify maybe it would

help him like it has me. I finally feel like I can get part of my

life back. I can't imagine what it must be like for a child.

Good Luck

-

-- In asthma , Tonya Stoll <tstoll@i...> wrote:

>

February 18, 2005

Tonya,

I think Xolair is approved for over 12 now, but they are doing

trials on kids under 12. If your son could qualify maybe it would

help him like it has me. I finally feel like I can get part of my

life back. I can't imagine what it must be like for a child.

Good Luck

-

-- In asthma , Tonya Stoll <tstoll@i...> wrote:

>

February 18, 2005

Tonya,

I think Xolair is approved for over 12 now, but they are doing

trials on kids under 12. If your son could qualify maybe it would

help him like it has me. I finally feel like I can get part of my

life back. I can't imagine what it must be like for a child.

Good Luck

-

-- In asthma , Tonya Stoll <tstoll@i...> wrote:

>

April 20, 2005

Lately I've read some negative info (especially from Consumer Reports)

that said that the ionic air cleaners are not really healthy because of

the ozone, and that they may not clean as well as they claim. I was

thinking of buying one also but now I've changed my mind.

Barb-AZ

>

> Hi. My name is and I'm new. I have had asthma for 19 years. I

> smoked for 26 and quit, this July makes 6 years ago. I am 47, two

> kids, and my first grandbaby on the way (due October 18). I attend

> college and am a homemaker. Question: Do ozone producing air cleaner-

> purifiers trigger your asthma like they do mine? I even have to be

> careful outside somedays. Thanks for letting me know something and to

> be part of your groups.

>

<image.tiff>

>

April 20, 2005

Lately I've read some negative info (especially from Consumer Reports)

that said that the ionic air cleaners are not really healthy because of

the ozone, and that they may not clean as well as they claim. I was

thinking of buying one also but now I've changed my mind.

Barb-AZ

>

> Hi. My name is and I'm new. I have had asthma for 19 years. I

> smoked for 26 and quit, this July makes 6 years ago. I am 47, two

> kids, and my first grandbaby on the way (due October 18). I attend

> college and am a homemaker. Question: Do ozone producing air cleaner-

> purifiers trigger your asthma like they do mine? I even have to be

> careful outside somedays. Thanks for letting me know something and to

> be part of your groups.

>

<image.tiff>

>

April 20, 2005

Lately I've read some negative info (especially from Consumer Reports)

that said that the ionic air cleaners are not really healthy because of

the ozone, and that they may not clean as well as they claim. I was

thinking of buying one also but now I've changed my mind.

Barb-AZ

>

> Hi. My name is and I'm new. I have had asthma for 19 years. I

> smoked for 26 and quit, this July makes 6 years ago. I am 47, two

> kids, and my first grandbaby on the way (due October 18). I attend

> college and am a homemaker. Question: Do ozone producing air cleaner-

> purifiers trigger your asthma like they do mine? I even have to be

> careful outside somedays. Thanks for letting me know something and to

> be part of your groups.

>

<image.tiff>

>

April 20, 2005

I have one, save the $650. I rarely use it. Got it out last month with that

pneumonia, and was swearing it was helping some, but I'm not sure anymore.

After a while that ozone smell reeks and bothers me. So yea, , I think

you're on to something.

Welcome to the list , BTW! I just joined like 10 days ago too. I'm

enjoying the help here.

Sheila

> Lately I've read some negative info (especially from Consumer Reports)

> that said that the ionic air cleaners are not really healthy because of

> the ozone, and that they may not clean as well as they claim. I was

> thinking of buying one also but now I've changed my mind.

>

> Barb-AZ

>

>>

>> Hi. My name is and I'm new. I have had asthma for 19 years. I

>> smoked for 26 and quit, this July makes 6 years ago. I am 47, two

>> kids, and my first grandbaby on the way (due October 18). I attend

>> college and am a homemaker. Question: Do ozone producing air cleaner-

>> purifiers trigger your asthma like they do mine? I even have to be

>> careful outside somedays. Thanks for letting me know something and to

>> be part of your groups.

>>

> <image.tiff>

>>

April 20, 2005

I have one, save the $650. I rarely use it. Got it out last month with that

pneumonia, and was swearing it was helping some, but I'm not sure anymore.

After a while that ozone smell reeks and bothers me. So yea, , I think

you're on to something.

Welcome to the list , BTW! I just joined like 10 days ago too. I'm

enjoying the help here.

Sheila

> Lately I've read some negative info (especially from Consumer Reports)

> that said that the ionic air cleaners are not really healthy because of

> the ozone, and that they may not clean as well as they claim. I was

> thinking of buying one also but now I've changed my mind.

>

> Barb-AZ

>

>>

>> Hi. My name is and I'm new. I have had asthma for 19 years. I

>> smoked for 26 and quit, this July makes 6 years ago. I am 47, two

>> kids, and my first grandbaby on the way (due October 18). I attend

>> college and am a homemaker. Question: Do ozone producing air cleaner-

>> purifiers trigger your asthma like they do mine? I even have to be

>> careful outside somedays. Thanks for letting me know something and to

>> be part of your groups.

>>

> <image.tiff>

>>

April 20, 2005

I have one, save the $650. I rarely use it. Got it out last month with that

pneumonia, and was swearing it was helping some, but I'm not sure anymore.

After a while that ozone smell reeks and bothers me. So yea, , I think

you're on to something.

Welcome to the list , BTW! I just joined like 10 days ago too. I'm

enjoying the help here.

Sheila

> Lately I've read some negative info (especially from Consumer Reports)

> that said that the ionic air cleaners are not really healthy because of

> the ozone, and that they may not clean as well as they claim. I was

> thinking of buying one also but now I've changed my mind.

>

> Barb-AZ

>

>>

>> Hi. My name is and I'm new. I have had asthma for 19 years. I

>> smoked for 26 and quit, this July makes 6 years ago. I am 47, two

>> kids, and my first grandbaby on the way (due October 18). I attend

>> college and am a homemaker. Question: Do ozone producing air cleaner-

>> purifiers trigger your asthma like they do mine? I even have to be

>> careful outside somedays. Thanks for letting me know something and to

>> be part of your groups.

>>

> <image.tiff>

>>

April 21, 2005

Hey . I use a natural clean air purifier because I know that ozone producing cleaners can be more harmful than good for you. You can get more information about them @ www.freshcleanairsystems.com If ozone machines cause your problems then this should be a good product for you to use instead.

Karl D.

-----Original Message-----From: asthma [mailto:asthma ]On Behalf Of cindyj4652Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2005 3:58 PMTo: asthma Subject: New hereHi. My name is and I'm new. I have had asthma for 19 years. I smoked for 26 and quit, this July makes 6 years ago. I am 47, two kids, and my first grandbaby on the way (due October 18). I attend college and am a homemaker. Question: Do ozone producing air cleaner-purifiers trigger your asthma like they do mine? I even have to be careful outside somedays. Thanks for letting me know something and to be part of your groups.

April 21, 2005

Hey . I use a natural clean air purifier because I know that ozone producing cleaners can be more harmful than good for you. You can get more information about them @ www.freshcleanairsystems.com If ozone machines cause your problems then this should be a good product for you to use instead.

Karl D.

-----Original Message-----From: asthma [mailto:asthma ]On Behalf Of cindyj4652Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2005 3:58 PMTo: asthma Subject: New hereHi. My name is and I'm new. I have had asthma for 19 years. I smoked for 26 and quit, this July makes 6 years ago. I am 47, two kids, and my first grandbaby on the way (due October 18). I attend college and am a homemaker. Question: Do ozone producing air cleaner-purifiers trigger your asthma like they do mine? I even have to be careful outside somedays. Thanks for letting me know something and to be part of your groups.

April 21, 2005

Hey . I use a natural clean air purifier because I know that ozone producing cleaners can be more harmful than good for you. You can get more information about them @ www.freshcleanairsystems.com If ozone machines cause your problems then this should be a good product for you to use instead.

Karl D.

-----Original Message-----From: asthma [mailto:asthma ]On Behalf Of cindyj4652Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2005 3:58 PMTo: asthma Subject: New hereHi. My name is and I'm new. I have had asthma for 19 years. I smoked for 26 and quit, this July makes 6 years ago. I am 47, two kids, and my first grandbaby on the way (due October 18). I attend college and am a homemaker. Question: Do ozone producing air cleaner-purifiers trigger your asthma like they do mine? I even have to be careful outside somedays. Thanks for letting me know something and to be part of your groups.

April 25, 2005

--- as you are curious here is some info

Asthma

Be sure that you have read carefully the cayce philosophy page as

missing any one of the principles there could cost you in some form –

we know we have done it.

One of the most important principles outlined by cayce and others

where people are suffering from any condition is to do everything

they can to help others in whatever capacity they can. Cayce

frequently mentioned that this would bring faster results. This is a

great ingredient in helping all people to transmute their own karma.

See other pages on this particularly important treatment.

Asthma is a lung condition, which is characterised by widespread

narrowing of the air passages within the lung. These passages can

vary in size spontaneously over short periods of time, which can be

triggered from different stimuli. According to a leading charity

there are about 8 million people who have been diagnosed with asthma

at some times in their lives. Currently about 1500 people die from

asthma each year in the UK.There has been a massive increase in

asthma in the last few years and millions of research money has

poured into the subject to try and determine the reasons why.

According to the book asthma a complete guide by Professor brostoff

and gamlin

Who have reviewed thousands of pieces of work by various

departments, doctors, and researchers, there is a vast amount of

knowledge on the subject. Those people interested in the subject

would I feel do well to consult their book ISBN 07475 4043 8

These are some of the findings

Numerous people have benefited greatly by doing yoga.

By identifying their own common triggers or allergic reactions

people's lives can be helped greatly.

Strengthening the breathing muscles has also been of great benefit

and research has proven this point.

Check that you are not taking drugs that make your asthma worse Such

as aspirin and in some people, certain drugs for glaucoma, high

blood pressure, angina, migraine and thyroid problems.

Avoid chest infections.

Protect yourself from pollution indoor and outdoor.

Check your workplace for allergens and irritants, this accounts for

a great many problems.

Peak flow meters put people in touch with their airways and give an

early warning of asthma attacks.

Review your drugs the amounts taken and the inhaler devices, some

people go on taking these drugs for months without need.

A management plan worked out with your doctor is extremely useful.

Professor brostof recommends osteopathy treatment

Vigorous exercise is highly recommended, studies have shown that

people who do exercise require fewer drugs

Lose weight, studies have shown people who are more overweight have

a higher chance of developing the disease.

There appears that there is good evidence now that the western diet

with its high fat and salt intake and low fruit and vegetables is

part of the reason for the epidemic of asthma.

Just have a look at this study on cats our feline friends.

The Pottinger Cat Experiments illustrate the genetic tendency

principles. In the 1940's, a medical doctor, Francis M. Pottinger,

made an experiment using 900 cats to determine what effects

processed foods have on the body. The cats were divided into five

groups. Two of the groups were fed whole foods-raw milk and meat -

real foods for cats. The other three groups were given denatured

foods pasteurized, evaporated and condensed milk. All the groups

were fed the same minimal basic diet to sustain life. However, the

predominant portion of the diets was either real foods or denatured

foods as listed above. The cats were observed over a four-generation

period and the following results were documented by Dr. Pottinger:

POTTINGER CAT EXPERIMENT SUMMARY

GROUP A B C D E

FOOD FED raw meat raw milk

evaporated milk/condensed milk

1st Generation remained healthy remained healthy

developed diseases and illnesses near end of life

2nd Generation remained healthy remained healthy

developed diseases and illnesses in middle of life

3rd Generation remained healthy remained healthy

developed diseases and illnesses in

beginning of life; many died before six months

of age

4th Generation remained healthy remained healthy no

fourth generation was produced: either third generation parents

were sterile, or fourth generation cats were aborted before birth

Fumes of many of the household things we use are a contributing

factor for some people.

Fatal asthma attacks come on very quickly so do not delay going to

hospital if your symptoms start to get much worse. A quarter of

fatals die within 30 mins of an attack. Nocturnal asthma is the most

serious as most people die from an attack at night.

Those who die from an asthma attack very often have been exposed to

a large dose of an allergen within the last 24 hrs

Antibiotics if given to babies within the first two yrs double the

risk of getting asthma. Some antibiotics are worse than others.

At the end of a long course of steroids – anything more than 3

weeks, children are especially vulnerable to developing asthma for

up to a year after.

Anyone who smokes while suffering from asthma must have a death

wish, it is paramount to not even start and anyone who does smoke

should give up immediately.

Asthma does run in certain families or the susceptibility to it.

Swimming does seem to help some people with reports of peak flow

improving after having done the swim, other reports indicate that

the humidity helps the airways.

There is a considerable amount of evidence, which supports the view

that people who have moved from areas where there was a small amount

of asthma to the west have doubled their chances of contracting the

disease. People moving from Tokelau to newzealand, Asians coming

from east Africa then moving to Britain and many other examples.

Factors which seem to encourage asthma- according to our learned

professor

1.Allergens from dust, pet's pollen, moulds either in the mothers

blood during pregnancy or in the air at birth.

2.Natural antibodies in the mothers breast milk

3.Other microbes

4.Natural bacteria in the gut, which can be altered by taking

antibiotics.

5.Parsitic worms

6.Vaccinations

7Toxic chemicals from tobacco in the mothers bloodstream if she

smokes when pregnant.

8Irritants such as tobacco smoke and nitrogen dioxide in the air

that the baby breathes.

Triggers

According to out learned professor these are some of the most common

triggers.

1Cold or very dry air.

2Certain ways of exercising.

3.Colds and chest infections.

4.Emotional upsets and stressful situations.

5.Excitement.

6.Industrial pollution.

7.Traffic pollution.

8.Irritants such as smoking, fly spray, airfreshener, or other

aerosols.

9.Irritants in the air at work.

10Srong smells, even pleasant ones.

11.Sulphur dioxide given off by certain foods and drinks.

12 Aspirin and aspirin like drugs and it appears that these can

affect you even if you have taken them before without ill effect.

13 Thunderstorms.

Other triggers

14.Certain foods.

15.Nitrogen dioxide as found in the kitchen.

16.Certain household cleaning products give off sulphur dioxide,

which can cause fatal attacks.

17Mould.

18People who have reduced or stopped a long course of steroid

medication.

19Antibiotics given during the first two years of life double the

chance of asthma developing.

20 People who develop asthma at work should leave the job or get a

transfer ASAP, most that get asthma at work have it forever.

21Asthmatics, who use ventolin far too often, over use has been

fatal.

22.Ignoring exercise-induced asthma has also been fatal.

Life conditioning and suggestion

Let me explain that term a little more, does anyone remember

Pavlov's dog who was fed food at the blow of a bell, eventually the

dog would salivate at the sound of a bell even though there was no

food on offer. That is conditioning

An example of suggestion would be telling people who were allergic

to grass pollen that they were actually breathing it even though you

knew they were inhaling something harmless- some would actually have

asthma attacks. What is more telling them they were having a

reliever drug would stop the attack. Such is the incredible power of

suggestion. What does this mean in the real world? Well if you were

allergic to cats and you saw one even if on the tv may be enough to

start you wheezing, if this occurs you have been conditioned from

the repeated attacks from that stimuli.

Another real example was of a lady who had a particularly bad

experience when she was a child from her father. She noticed that

her symptoms got worse whenever he was around even if he was on the

phone. She had been abused by her father. Gladly with the help of

psychotherapy she got much better.

Another asthmatic believed she was allergic to goldfish and even the

gold fish bowl –this is impossible, as they do not produce any

airborne irritants. However tests showed that there was significant

narrowing of her airways from both of that stimuli. Eventually the

problem was traced to a particularly traumatic event in childhood

when her mother took the child's goldfish and threw both in the

dustbin.

In both of these cases there was underlying asthma which when the

psychological factor was added triggered a reaction. It is very rare

apparently to find an asthmatic that has attacks solely triggered

from these kinds of stimuli.

All of these examples only go to show that we are very complicated

beings and are totally unaware at a conscious level of past

conditioning.

According to Professor john brostoff Asthma can also run in

families, where he mentions a susceptibility to the problem being

passed on usually in the form of certain allergies. In all cases the

allergy is a mistaken reaction by the bodies defence system against

a harmless substance such as pollen dust or particles from pets.

Once the airway has become inflamed by the allergic reaction it is

then very sensitive to irritants such as cold air, fast breathing

and other triggers.

It would seem that there are a variety of triggers, which can bring

on an attack.

Edgar Cayce approach to healing Asthma

There are quite a few principles which cayce advocated

1.All healing comes from the infinite – that means from attunement

and harmony with our spiritual source

2. At the same time each person must take responsibility for his or

her health and healing process. No one can simply sit back waiting

passively for healing to occur.

3.All healing is the changing of the vibrations within no one can

hate his neighbor and not get stomach upsets as a result. Thoughts

are real and have weight and value.

4.Cayce warned people about certain drugs and talked about them as

palliatives that deceive the soul with half-truths and temporary

relief.

5 He also mentioned that the very best treatment procedure could

bring about a temporary worsening of conditions. If we did not

recognize this we could give up just as there was a change in our

health.

Emphasis was also placed upon self-acceptance. As we rid ourselves

of self-condemnation we make room for healing forces to work.

Optimism and hope .We are encouraged to expect healing

Patience, we must be willing to invest whatever time and trouble it

takes.

6 We are encouraged to use creative visualization to stimulate our

own healing, which usually takes more than a few sessions.

7.A commitment to a purposeful life .Not just any purpose but one

which reflects care for other people. To help balance our karma.

8. There appears to be quite a few causes for this problem.Cayce

gave 73 readings for 23 people and specified the causes to have its

origin in the neuralgic stimuli which were touched off by either

lesions and adhesions in the bronchi and larynx or by pressures

exerted in the autonomic ganglia and their connections with the

cerebrospinal system. In other words spinal problems were involved

occurring mainly in the dorsal and cervical area. Poor spinal

misalignments combined with certain other factors such as stress or

poor diet would also cause the bronchi to constrict bringing on an

asthmatic attack. Frequently congestion would result and toxins

which were not fully eliminated from the lungs would cause a

reaction in the kidneys and liver. Glands associated with the

assimilation system would also come involved.

An interesting exercise was mentioned for strengthening the lungs,

this came I believe from Harold reilly he found that by blowing up

several balloons a day this aided conditions of asthma, emphysema

and other disorders.

A review of the circulating file on asthma

In case 5004 asthma started when he was just a boy after a severe

bout of flu, when he was delirious Lesions were formed here in the

bronchi and the larynx as a result of the infection. In another case

an injury caused a lesion, which in turn created disturbing

conditions in the bronchial tree. When that part of the body tried

to seal itself off inflammation came about with adhesions developing

in the bronchial tree. These in turn disturbed the assimilation and

elimination processes. Occasionally there will be dizzy spells

associated with the asthma or visual or auditory problems. These

have their origin in the same centers of control in the ganglia,

which have been affected. There are connections between the first

second and third dorsal that connect directly to the sensory system

hence dizziness, auditory and visual problems can sometimes occur.

After these lesions are once created the patterns of activity which

most people have tend to point the finger at external stimuli

causing the problem.

Cayce made this statement that the body has the capability of normal

function and thus we would administer those therapies which bring

about an activity from the body itself rather than becoming

dependent on supplies that are robbing portions of the system to

produce the affects which we are after. Cayce was pointing the

finger clearly at the nervous system and to remove any adverse

stimulating factors from pressures which may exist in the bronchial

dorsal and cervical ganglia thus a series of osteopathic adjustments

should be made and long enough for proper function to be made. The

eliminations, which may have been disturbed, have to be brought back

to normal and in balance with the assimilations. The deep and

superficial circulation which is often disturbed should be restored.

The glands of the body should be brought also into balance.

Irritation of an external nature should be eliminated. Dietary

adjustments should be made, which are very important with a severe

restriction of sweets, only honey once a day was allowed no white

bread potatoes tomatoes or dried beans or rice. All fruits

vegetables and nuts were desirable Fowl of fish for protein.

Colonics should be given weekly for 2-3 weeks then perhaps once

monthly. Enemas could be used if colonics were not available.

Atomidine can be given in a series this is to balance the glands one

drop daily in half a glass of water for five days stop for three

days then to two drops daily for five days stop for three days. Then

back to one drop daily then a rest and start the regime again.

These factors applied in a therapeutic regime need to be done with

patience and persistence.

Acute attacks of asthma were controlled in various ways although it

is implied that when other forms of therapy have begun the attacks

would become less severe.

Calcidin 1-5 drops in 5 ounces of warm water sipped every 15-20 mins

is one suggestion.

Atomidine 6 drops in a tablespoon of water sipped entirely once

every 6 hrs is another.

Special inhalants were also advisee such as to 4 oz of grain alcohol

add oil of eucalyptus 20 mins, rectified oil of turpentine

5mns,compund tincture of benzoin 15mns.

Apple brandy fumes from a charred oak keg were also recommended this

was prepared by taking either a 1- 2 gall charred oak keg and

filling it with pure apple brandy just half a gallon. Drill 2 holes

in the top and breathe the fumes twice a day, the keg should be

placed near a heat appliance of some kind to enable the fumes to

come off readily. This acts as a purifier of tissue but also allows

the tissue to be revivified.

To one female adult 85-1 who had an injury a lesion was found in the

area of the 456 dorsal which was triggering off sympathetic ganglia

causing the asthma. Corrections with deep manipulation applying at

the same time mercury lamps which would relax the congested part of

her and also bring about better conditions within the nerves and

tissue themselves.

Little sweets at all were to be eaten

Also advised was 5-10grain tablets of calcidin dissolved before

eaten 2 a day preferably in the evenings when the congestion shows

or spasmodic conditions occur take these up to the time when the

congestion has been removed.

Persistance was advised.

AReport back from the patient confirmed the injury at the top of the

spine, which was the original cause.

90-1 male adult

General advice was to avoid sweets entirely, as these would cause

irritation and also avoid tea and coffee or any of that nature

36-42 osteopathic adjustments applying heat at the same time.

Calcidin recommended.

227-1 male adult

This patient had complications with his heart

Osteopathic adjustments and calcidin were recommended.

304-2male 68

Spinal Lesions and scars were the seat of the trouble.

527-1 male adult

Spinal Lesions affecting the 3 and 4 dorsal, which were causing the

problems, triggers for the asthma attacks were various, but the

underlying cause were the lesions. Symptoms were various –mucous,

problems with the nasal cavity, the hearing the eye soreness of the

soft tissue of the face, burning at times of the bronchi, even

atmospheric pressure changes produced some irritation these were

reflex actions coming from the action of the lesions.

Cayce said despite the severity of the problem that with persistence

all of these conditions would be overcome

Osteopathic adjustments were recommended and diet changes, an

inhalant, and atomidine.

Improvements were made in direct accordance with complying with the

suggestions as given by cayce it seems.

595-1Male adult

A Germ acting with a sublaxation [spinal problem] was at the seat

of the problem.

Osteopathic adjustments, diet changes, an inhalant, calcidin, apple

brandy mixed with rock candy drunk very slowly no more than two

teaspoons. A course of Atomidine and a warning that the person

should not get overheated or cold or even cold feet while the

applications were being made.

656-1male teenager

This was an interesting case in that cayce said that there were

various effects, which could be seen in varying atmospheric pressure

changes. Various ganglia were being affected by the changes.

A sublaxation spinal problem was sited as the problem with mention

of various and numerous triggers, which affected the body directly.

A move to a more stable place was recommended like Carolina, New

Mexico, Arizona where there was more sunshine and less atmospheric

pressure changes.

Osteopathic adjustments, diet changes, calcidin and onion packs

which were to be placed over the right lung and caecum were all

recommended. Again with consistence cayce said that results would be

forthcoming.

861-1

Generally followed along the same lines of treatment but cautioned

the person about any sweets and white potatoes and no fried food as

these produced unwanted affects in the system.

1787-1 male 48

Here was another case but the cause was sited as scar tissue caused

from too high a temperature exposure which gave an asthmatic

condition, which could then be triggered by all sorts of things like

pressure changes, or inhaling dust.

Recommended treatment -Osteopathic adjustments given in a series,

the fumes of apple brandy from an charred oak keg, this was also

mentioned at the A.R.E. clinic in Arizona.Diet changes, calcios,

enemas to cleanse the colon.

2424 male 51

A case that was diagnosed as glandular problems with lesions which

had symptoms of asthma was also quite interesting, symptoms included

blood pressure, blood flow problems, organs of the senses not

working properly, assimilation problems, respiratory problems,

digestive system problems.

A cleansing of the glands was the first priority, a drop of

atomidine in half a glass of water in the morning before any meal is

taken for 5 days, and then 2 drops for 5 days then leave off

entirely.

Then take 5 drops of elixir of lactated pepsin. This is to change

the character of the assimilations.

On the 6th day start with the osteopathic adjustments especially in

the brachial plexus, the bronchi, the larynx, head and neck, during

the time of the adjustments take 1-2 spoons of milk of magnesia,

this was to make the body more alkaline.

Dietary changes as has been given earlier.

Cayce mentioned that you might feel a little worse to begin with but

to stick at it.

2755 male aged 8

Rather the same format regarding the cause as lesions[ spinal

problems] but with the added remark that some attacks can come on as

a result of mental associations rather than actual Physical

conditions.

3453-1 female 33

Severe case of asthma with an attack lasting over 5 weeks.

Cayce found lesions and sublaxations [spinal problems] to be the

seat of the trouble, which required a long series of adjustments.

With an added tip of mentioning when an attack was coming to use an

inhalant, by using a compound tincture of benzoin and oil of

eucalyptus- equal amounts in boiling water and place a cover over

your head and then breathe in the fumes. Good eliminations were also

advised.

Dietary changes as already given – no sweets.

This patient had 4 or more attacks and a further check reading was

given which cayce pointed the finger at her diet as she had been

having too much sweets and candies. These he said had caused these

attacks.

3485 male 51

This case is as a lesson to us all, this man had been suffering from

asthma since 5 yrs old.

Cayce found that there was much confusion with this person and

stressed that the attitudes of this person would have to change if

there was to see any kind of healing for here was a person who was

meeting his own self or the result of selfs actions.

What was demanded of others you must pay your self. Every soul must

remember not to demand of others more than you are willing to give

for you will pay and as most through thy gills.

Cayce would not give this man any information regarding improving

his health even knowing that what he was taking at that time was no

having much effect.

Cayce cautioned him to make the world a better place to live.

3738 male 10

Cayce found lesions[ spinal problems] as a result it would appear

from the manner of being born, which in turn caused the asthma, the

usual recommendations were made with a nice result in that they were

followed to the letter and as a result the asthma was cured.

5360-male56

Spinal Lesions were at the cause of the trouble again, but there was

an interesting symptom in that there was a rapid heart beat which

cayce found the cause to be strictures in the brachial centers.

His health improved very much in short time it would appear.

In Harold reillys book he mentions that people who used a balloon by

inflating it improved the strength of their lungs which helped their

asthma.

Always and as ever spiritual healing/reiki has the capacity in

overcoming this disease – see the article on this fascinating

energy. This should be a part of every healing journey

Fuller details can be found in Reba Ann karps book encyclopedia of

healing ISBN 0446 30981-8 which gives lots of treatments on all

manor of diseases.

And the Edgar cayce handbook for health by Harold reilly and Ruth

hagy brod Harold had 43 yrs working with the readings Isdn0-02601960-

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beach

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> Hi. My name is and I'm new. I have had asthma for 19 years.

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> smoked for 26 and quit, this July makes 6 years ago. I am 47, two

> kids, and my first grandbaby on the way (due October 18). I

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> college and am a homemaker. Question: Do ozone producing air

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> purifiers trigger your asthma like they do mine? I even have to be

> careful outside somedays. Thanks for letting me know something and

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April 25, 2005