Re: Pissing contests

[Guest guest]

I was also allergic to milk as a child (had to be given soy baby formula; I was

actually allergic to this as well but less severely so that was what I ate) but

I soon outgrew the allergy (cheese has been a favorite food since I was a

toddler). I have endless problems with my excretory system and am currently

taking Zelnorm for it (it has thus far done nothing but give me rather violent

diarrhea which made me lose five *pounds* the first day, consisting of waste and

fluid). I have IBS and some neurological problems with eliminating waste.

Stool softener makes it *worse* and so does fiber. A few days ago I thought to

myself, " I wish someone would literally rip me a new one so I can give this poor

butt a rest. " It's just like torture. I am not sure what you mean by

" poo-glue " but my guess is that you are not refering to mucus which is a part of

IBS. My biggest problem is that my rectum *doesn't work* like it should. I

have a great aunt that had the same problem and my mother has

a more minor version of the problem (it's her aunt that had the problem). I

forsee some surgeries in my future when I finally have to find a better solution

to the problem. My theory, which seems sound as there's no better explanation,

is that my rectum and my brain don't talk to each other. I can't send signals

from one to the other so my rectum is just like, " Eh, I'm just going to mind my

own business, " and just sits there while my brain is saying, " hey, you, wake up!

Time to get rid of some waste! " and my rectum is just snoring away. It's a real

problem. I won't get into any more detail because I'm sure no one wants to hear

about it.

alfamanda wrote:

> GF/CF diets can help with cutting down the amount of " poo-glue. "

Only if you're allergic or intolerant to gluten and/or casein, which

I'm not. I was allergic to milk as a small child, and am not anymore

(and removing or adding dairy to my diet has little effect on that

sort of thing). I have been put on all kinds of diets (including

some specifically intended to get rid of glue-poo, as well as gf/cf

and several miscellaneous quackery-induced diets), and the only thing

that has ever worked for that is stool softeners. Other diets work

when there's a legitimate health problem caused or exacerbated by

certain foods, but there is no food or exercise I can add or remove

that does much about glue-poo (reflux, gastritis, and gallbladder

issues, yes; glue-poo, no).

I find it disturbing that gf/cf is seen as the answer to every

digestive issue in an autistic person. My digestive system may hate

*me*, but it doesn't harbor any particular enmity toward gluten or

casein.

[Guest guest]

It depends on the low-flow toilet. Some get easily clogged because the waste

won't go down. Others work fairly well. The same is true for low-flow

showerheads. It's useless if you have to spend twice as long in the shower to

get the soap off of you because the shower head is so wimpy. One needs an

appropriate amount of water pressure, and low-flow often means low pressure.

Saving water is not silly, I agree. I grew up at first with a well that

produced mineral water that could not be imbibed. We had to haul drinking water

home from my grandmother's so we used it sparingly. When I was four or five, we

had a cistern poured, and we had to be very careful with water, because our

water supply depended on the amount of rainfall we received. When there was

little rainfall for the gutters to collect, we had to be extra careful, for

instance, not flush toilets until someone either had a bowl movement or there

was enough urine and toilet paper for flushing to become necesary. We

learned to take quick showers to conserve our water. If we ran too low on

water, we would have to pay several hundred dollars to the water man to come

fill our cistern with water. We later built a garage and instead of a normal

foundation it is built on a " backup cistern " which minimized our need for visits

from the water man; we used a drill and several hoses to pump water from the

backup cistern to the main cistern either when we pumped out the main one for

cleaning or when we ran low and needed more water. We still had be be very

careful, especially when there were droughts. In our basement there was a water

purification system and when we had no elecricity we had no water either because

the filtration system runs on electricity. Due to this I am very conscious

about water usage. I still think low-flow toilets are silly. Perhaps because

growing up we only flushed when the toilet was full. I know all about how a

home water supply runs because of growing up this way. I

know what it's like to have to do your part in managing a very finite quantity

of water.

What I think would be truely useful would be a toilet with various settings:

ultra-low flow for urine and toilet paper only, and settings for heavier flow

depending on what needs to be flushed. The toilet of the future! LOL. I don't

think anything like this will ever be made, but it would be the ideal compromise

between low-flow and regular toilets.

Klein wrote:

Jane Meyerding wrote:

> I think low-flow toilets are designed to save water. Saving water

> isn't silly.

It is silly if you have to flush more than once to make waste go down,

which might end up using more water than one of the old-style toilets

that only have to flush once. Of course, liquid waste (or liquid waste

and a small quantity of toilet paper) would not be subject to this. I

personally have not found that to be the case-- the water-saving toilet

in my apartment has never failed to make solid waste go away with one

flush, and as someone that is physically quite large, I make

commensurately large solid waste at times.

[Guest guest]

It sounds to me like an easy to fix problem. I can think of several ways you

might do it yourself much more cheaply:

1. Solder or weld the problem area. Probably not welding. It might take a lot

of soldering but it would be MUCH cheaper. You'd need a soldering iron or gun

and solder.

2. Replace the pipe with a flexible plastic pipe.

3. Patch the pipe with pumping putty.

There are many more but I'm not exactly sure what the problem is so it's kind of

hard for me to be useful. Is it the pipe under the toilet that brings more

water into the tank? If so, I've replaced that pipe on my sister's toilet. I

used a flexible plastic hose. I had to saw through the old one with a hacksaw

because I couldn't unscrew it but it worked out really well. Otherwise, I'm not

sure what pipe is causing problems.

Jane Meyerding wrote:

nah wrote:

>...What is wrong

>that makes your toilet leak?

There is a thick bent pipe between the tank and the bowl

When the toilet is flushed, waterleaks out of the join

in that pipe. The plumber said it was " rotten. " The

reason for the expense is that modern toilets don't have

that kind of pipe or the fittings for the pipe, so it

would all have to e creted " by hand, " as it were.

Since it only leaks (and not horrendously) when it flushes,

I'm just letting it ride. A towel stays handy to mop up

the bit of water, that's all.

I think low-flow toilets are designed to save water.

Saving water isn't silly.

Jane

[Guest guest]

wrote:

>One of my more dubious claims to fame is being able to clog just

>about any toilet imaginable.

Reminds me of an amusing (true) story. When my mother was

very ill with cancer (a month or two before she died), my

oldest sister came for a visit. My mother was still able

to get out of bed (with help) and use the toilet at that

point. One day, the toilet stopped up beyond what I could

do to fix it, so I called a plumber.

" We'll have to warn him [the plumber] not to disturb mother, "

I said to my sister. " Oh, he wouldn't do that, " she responded.

She hadn't been around my mother long enough in recent years

to understand the way people reacted to our mother. For

some reason, toward the end of her life she got more and

more attractive to people. She never made a big deal out of

anyone, but many people she came into contact with were

drawn to her as if she was the nicest person they'd ever

met. I suspect is was her way of listening to them, paying

attention (quiety, undemonstratively) to them, making them

feel truly acknowledged and affirmed.

This reaction was especially noticeable when it happend

with people with whom she had what usually is a very casual

relationship -- e.g., plubmers, window cleaners, people you'd

expect to have no personal feeling about her at all. I went

along with my sister's judgement, though, and all we did was

close my mother's bedroom door (except for a crack so we

could hear if she needed us) and tell the plumber that she

was suffering from cancer and confined to bed.

This man had been to the house (as a plumber) once or

possibly twice before, but of course he remembered mother.

(People did.) As soon as he got the toilet unstopped, he

just naturally went in to mother's bedroom to chat with

her about it. My sister was scandalized. It hadn't seemed

possible to her than any " stranger " would open the door of

a sickroom and intrude. I thought it was funny, and I'm

sure it didn't do my mother any harm. The plumber was

telling her that his wife had had cancer, and that

treatment for cancer causes people's stools to get really

hard, so hard they are almost bound [no pun intended] to

plug up the toilet.

I suppose there are other (non-cancer-related) meds that

have the same effect.

Jane

[Guest guest]

<< I am not sure what you mean by " poo-glue " but my guess is that you

are not refering to mucus which is a part of IBS. >>

Nope, I'm referring to a particular texture that is incredibly good

at clogging toilets and that my intestines are incredibly good at

producing.

[Guest guest]

SCD diet can help too.  often people think they have been on gf/cf diet, but

they have used soy, corn or have had traces of gluten from other things.  for

 many people, it has to be absolute and meticulous to work, or else use enzymes

to mop up the traces of contaminants.  whatever the digestive issue, it is worth

finding out, because sensory issues diminish and so does anxiety and depression.

 they dont go away, and lol diet is not a cure if the person is genuinely

autistic, but it can make life more pleasant.  i really enjoyed knowing what it

is like not to be uncomfortable after eating.  i did not know that i was

uncomfortable because prior to gf/cf and enzymes, i had known nothing else.

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[Guest guest]

Coming in on the thread and don't know if anyone mentions this later,

but here in Austfalia there *are* multi flow toilets. They have a 1/2

flush for urine and a full flush for solids. Our toilets here don't

fill with water almost to the brim either, they swirl forcefully and

push the waste down. That said, most toilets are water saving too, even

on the full flush.

sandi

>What I think would be truely useful would be a toilet with various settings:

ultra-low flow for urine and toilet paper only, and settings for heavier flow

depending on what needs to be flushed. The toilet of the future! LOL. I don't

think anything like this will ever be made, but it would be the ideal compromise

between low-flow and regular toilets.

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[Guest guest]

what the fuck!?