Guest guest Posted October 16, 2003 Report Share Posted October 16, 2003 Re: Re: No troll. > The difference is that any idiot can go to his place of former > employment and bust the place up. It takes some skill to be able to > hack into people's computers... and it takes no skill at all to threaten > to do it. They're just words; no need to let someone scare you like that. You are somewhat right about that. People who are able to do that kind of think don't talk about it in advance. They may brag afterward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 16, 2003 Report Share Posted October 16, 2003 A wounded bird doesn't go around threatening the rest of the animal kingdom. Re: Re: No troll. > Jeanette wrote: > >I thought most of his posts were totally nuts and really funny. They made > >no sense and it was obvious that we was just a wounded bird trying to make > >himself feel big, and it was so silly and so obvious and his comments were > >so nonsensical that I just laughed, and laughed. > > Seeing a wounded bird doesn't make me feel like laughing. > It makes me anxious and sad. > > Jane > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 16, 2003 Report Share Posted October 16, 2003 Maybe the rest of us are like wounded birds, too. Perhaps *he* was the cause of some of his own wounding. Re: Re: No troll. > JANE, > > Oh, come on. > > I wasn't laughing at the FACT that he was a wounded bird, I was laughing at his attempts at denial of that fact. > > I'm not going to sit here and get sad and anxious everytime I see a " wounded bird " . That's not productive for them or me. I get sad if they get hopeless, like if he hurt himself seriously or killed himself, yes, that would be sad. > > But " Wounded Birds " can recover, and the can do something about it- or not. And sometimes if they choose to do nothing for themselves, that doesn't mean they are totally hopeless or even sad. Maybe they are just doing whatever they can to try and heal themselves at the time and it doesn't look the way I think it should. Maybe they just need to be as they are who they are no matter what and I should just mind my own business, and let them process and " ferment " the whole " wounded " experience. > > I don't like feeling sad for people like that. I think it's kind of pity, and my pity isn't going to help them at all- and it's insulting to them. Pity is for some NTs who get stuck in their false mode of life, not knowing what it is, trying to be and do the NT thing, thinking they have real friends and real love and real support, then when something bad happens, and they can no longer do what they did before (traumatic incident, severe illness, etc. stops them ) they realize they are fucked, and have nothing real. > > Pity is for the drunk on the corner pissing himself, that you know probably got himself where he is, but it still feel bad anyway. > > I usually get angry, then sad. For example, if a child is hurt or killed, I get mad as hell, not sad. I want to go and defend the child and hunt down the perpetrators and bring them to justice somehow. Of course, I can't do this. > > Then, when the jerks are caught and punished, I get sad for the family and the child. I tend to be mad longer than sad. I don't like sad- I'm already depressed, and I don't need anymore of that. I'm taking something to help that, and it's working, but I need to not dwell on sad stuff like that where I can't do anything to help. I have to admit I am uncomfortable with my sad feelings. > > You know I tried to burst Steve's " denial " bubble, but it didn't work, so I had to let it go. And maybe he SOUNDS worse than he is. I'm not down there, so I don't know. He sounded really wacko, and I was a little worried, but then he just kept doing his thing, so I let it go. > > Hell *I* could be thought of as a wounded bird, and all fucked up and over the edge. So what. I don't care, and I don't want people feeling sorry for me or " sad " . Empathetic, sympathetic, compassionate, yes, that's good. But I'm not a helpless hopeless blob of whatever to make people " sad " or " anxious " , no matter how horrible I sound on the screen or whatever. I've already got enough to be anxious about without having to think about more stuff in that realm. > > So I found humor in it (Steve's behavior) and laughed, because in the end, that's all I could do, and be effective at something. Worrying about it isn't really going to help anyone, and laughing at it all is better for my health, and could be a wake-up call for someone who acts like that. Then again, I could just laugh here and not say anything, thereby doing nothing at all, except relieving tension. > > Jeanette > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 17, 2003 Report Share Posted October 17, 2003 >A wounded bird doesn't go around threatening the rest of the animal >kingdom. That's funny! But it's not true. A non-mortally wounded animal is much more vicious and dangerous than other animals. It will bite for no reason just to defend itself as long as it can. They make themselves fluff up and look bigger than they are to scare off their enemies. In the wild it's all about smoke and mirrors. Most of the time animals threaten eachother even if they can't make good on that threat and usually scare eachother off before actual fighting. And if they want a meal, they are as stealthy as possible and make a quick kill with no warning. So Steve was trying to fluff himself up, looking bigger than he was and pretending he wasn't " hurt " just a real bad ass. Even if he said things bothered him later he would say it was nothing- this is a classic defense/ denial tactic. It's just that in some cases ( like me and , for instance) the rouse didn't work and we were not scared. I laughed, because that's how bad of an act I thought he put on. Jeanette Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 17, 2003 Report Share Posted October 17, 2003 >Perhaps *he* was the cause of some of his own wounding. Yes, I think so. Since this is the internet, and NOT the wild, people are taken aback and angered by his constant defensiveness and paranoia. So they step away or he sees things that are harmless as a threat, and he attacks, and no one knows why, so they get mad, and retaliate. Making threats the way he does is so stupid- he is inviting trouble. And one of these days he's going to piss off the wrong person and he may get hurt- or hacked himself. Jeanette Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 17, 2003 Report Share Posted October 17, 2003 Perhaps a simpler method would be just to delete his messages wherever they show up. Re: Re: No troll. > >Perhaps *he* was the cause of some of his own wounding. > > Yes, I think so. Since this is the internet, and NOT the wild, people are taken aback and angered by his constant defensiveness and paranoia. So they step away or he sees things that are harmless as a threat, and he attacks, and no one knows why, so they get mad, and retaliate. > > Making threats the way he does is so stupid- he is inviting trouble. And one of these days he's going to piss off the wrong person and he may get hurt- or hacked himself. > > Jeanette > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 17, 2003 Report Share Posted October 17, 2003 But such a wounded beast would likely want to be left alone to recover, not go around looking for more of the same. I still don't think whatzhisface fits the description. His aggression was premeditated. Re: Re: No troll. > >A wounded bird doesn't go around threatening the rest of the animal >kingdom. > > That's funny! > > But it's not true. > > A non-mortally wounded animal is much more vicious and dangerous than other animals. It will bite for no reason just to defend itself as long as it can. They make themselves fluff up and look bigger than they are to scare off their enemies. In the wild it's all about smoke and mirrors. Most of the time animals threaten eachother even if they can't make good on that threat and usually scare eachother off before actual fighting. And if they want a meal, they are as stealthy as possible and make a quick kill with no warning. > > So Steve was trying to fluff himself up, looking bigger than he was and pretending he wasn't " hurt " just a real bad ass. Even if he said things bothered him later he would say it was nothing- this is a classic defense/ denial tactic. It's just that in some cases ( like me and , for instance) the rouse didn't work and we were not scared. I laughed, because that's how bad of an act I thought he put on. > > Jeanette > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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