Re: UWTM and Post Surgical Timeline

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Hi All,

We are starting both in the UWTM at day 10. At lkeast in the treaadmill these guys get exercise that is controlled, they wear off lots of energy. Have had great luck. Hulls in Tx was the first one to recommend such an early start to me, but it makes sense. Especially in terms of muscle stregnth, there is much less atrophy when we start early. We have them back to normal function by 10 weeks. (Unfortunatley they look normal by 4 weeks but still need to ber restricted)

Pam Nichols DVM,CCRP

-----Original Message-----From: VetRehab [mailto:VetRehab ]On Behalf Of kbrownedvmSent: Monday, December 25, 2006 10:09 PMTo: VetRehab Subject: UWTM and Post Surgical Timeline

I was hoping to search this topic in our database, but since it's not completed yet I thought I would post. I have seen a lot of discrepancy regarding when Total Hips and TPLO's are started in the UWTM. Typically, I have been waiting five weeks post TPLO and 12 weeks post Total Hip. I feel that this may be too conservative and would like to hear what others have seen as successful.Thanks, Browne, DVM

[Guest guest]

I'm sorry for the late post but I'm catching up. I follow a prtocal

similar to Dr. Nichols. I will start a patient in the UWTM at 10 days

to 2 weeks post op as long as the incision has healed normally. We also

have had good results with this regime, especially with our canine

athlete patients who are usually in good body condition pre-op.

>

> Hi All,

> We are starting both in the UWTM at day 10. At lkeast in the

treaadmill

> these guys get exercise that is controlled, they wear off lots of

energy.

> Have had great luck. Hulls in Tx was the first one to recommend

such

> an early start to me, but it makes sense. Especially in terms of

muscle

> stregnth, there is much less atrophy when we start early. We have

them back

> to normal function by 10 weeks. (Unfortunatley they look normal by 4

weeks

> but still need to ber restricted)

> Pam Nichols DVM,CCRP

> UWTM and Post Surgical Timeline

>

>

> I was hoping to search this topic in our database, but since it's

not

> completed yet I thought I would post. I have seen a lot of

discrepancy

> regarding when Total Hips and TPLO's are started in the UWTM.

> Typically, I have been waiting five weeks post TPLO and 12 weeks

post

> Total Hip. I feel that this may be too conservative and would like

to

> hear what others have seen as successful.

>

> Thanks,

> Browne, DVM

>

[Guest guest]

Hello All,

Are the uncemented THR's going in the UWTM that early too (POD #10)? It makes sense to me since wt bearing is limited with adjustable H2O levels.

le Robbins, P.T. CCRT

Reply-To: VetRehab To: VetRehab Subject: Re: UWTM and Post Surgical TimelineDate: Wed, 31 Jan 2007 16:48:15 -0000

I'm sorry for the late post but I'm catching up. I follow a prtocalsimilar to Dr. Nichols. I will start a patient in the UWTM at 10 daysto 2 weeks post op as long as the incision has healed normally. We alsohave had good results with this regime, especially with our canineathlete patients who are usually in good body condition pre-op.>> Hi All,> We are starting both in the UWTM at day 10. At lkeast in thetreaadmill> these guys get exercise that is controlled, they wear off lots ofenergy.> Have had great luck. Hulls in Tx was the first one to recommendsuch> an early start to me, but it makes sense. Especially in terms ofmuscle> stregnth, there is much less atrophy when we start early. We havethem back> to normal function by 10 weeks. (Unfortunatley they look normal by 4weeks> but still need to ber restricted)> Pam Nichols DVM,CCRP> UWTM and Post Surgical Timeline>>> I was hoping to search this topic in our database, but since it'snot> completed yet I thought I would post. I have seen a lot ofdiscrepancy> regarding when Total Hips and TPLO's are started in the UWTM.> Typically, I have been waiting five weeks post TPLO and 12 weekspost> Total Hip. I feel that this may be too conservative and would liketo> hear what others have seen as successful.>> Thanks,> Browne, DVM>

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[Guest guest]

Hi All,

My question--- what time frame would you

use for the TPLO and THR patients for a swimming pool?

Would this be the same as the UWTM?

Thanks for the input.

Lori Lutskas, RVT, CCRP

Small Animal Neurology and Rehabilitation

Technician

Washington State University

Veterinary Teaching Hospital

lll@...

From:

VetRehab [mailto:VetRehab ] On Behalf Of rehabdvm

Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007

8:48 AM

To: VetRehab

Subject: Re: UWTM and

Post Surgical Timeline

I'm sorry for the late post but I'm catching up. I

follow a prtocal

similar to Dr. Nichols. I will start a patient in the UWTM at 10 days

to 2 weeks post op as long as the incision has healed normally. We also

have had good results with this regime, especially with our canine

athlete patients who are usually in good body condition pre-op.

>

> Hi All,

> We are starting both in the UWTM at day 10. At lkeast in the

treaadmill

> these guys get exercise that is controlled, they wear off lots of

energy.

> Have had great luck. Hulls in Tx was the first one to recommend

such

> an early start to me, but it makes sense. Especially in terms of

muscle

> stregnth, there is much less atrophy when we start early. We have

them back

> to normal function by 10 weeks. (Unfortunatley they look normal by 4

weeks

> but still need to ber restricted)

> Pam Nichols DVM,CCRP

> UWTM and Post Surgical Timeline

>

>

> I was hoping to search this topic in our database, but since it's

not

> completed yet I thought I would post. I have seen a lot of

discrepancy

> regarding when Total Hips and TPLO's are started in the UWTM.

> Typically, I have been waiting five weeks post TPLO and 12 weeks

post

> Total Hip. I feel that this may be too conservative and would like

to

> hear what others have seen as successful.

>

> Thanks,

> Browne, DVM

>

[Guest guest]

Hello,

In belgium the vets do not allow exercises before 6 weeks postop

(TPLO). After this 6 weeks we can start with the swimmingpool and

after two weeks swimming with the uwtm.

How comes that u can start with the uwtm after day 10? Is there now

risk that the bonefracture after TPLO is not strong enough (even

with the plate).

Sometimes I can start with a TPLO after 2 weeks but in the

swimmingpool.

Mayby the vets in belgium are to protective?

bart

www.hydrokine-westpool.be

> >

> > Hi All,

> > We are starting both in the UWTM at day 10. At lkeast in the

> treaadmill

> > these guys get exercise that is controlled, they wear off lots of

> energy.

> > Have had great luck. Hulls in Tx was the first one to

recommend

> such

> > an early start to me, but it makes sense. Especially in terms of

> muscle

> > stregnth, there is much less atrophy when we start early. We have

> them back

> > to normal function by 10 weeks. (Unfortunatley they look normal

by 4

> weeks

> > but still need to ber restricted)

> > Pam Nichols DVM,CCRP

> > UWTM and Post Surgical Timeline

> >

> >

> > I was hoping to search this topic in our database, but since it's

> not

> > completed yet I thought I would post. I have seen a lot of

> discrepancy

> > regarding when Total Hips and TPLO's are started in the UWTM.

> > Typically, I have been waiting five weeks post TPLO and 12 weeks

> post

> > Total Hip. I feel that this may be too conservative and would

like

> to

> > hear what others have seen as successful.

> >

> > Thanks,

> > Browne, DVM

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Jeff --

Nicely said -- AMEN!

Stahl, PT, LVT