Dreams (was Re: child/adult...)

[Guest guest]

Louise Gainor danced around singing:

>I levitate in my dreams, too. I usually cross my arms and point my elbows

>out, and I'm up! I think I cross my arms because that's how I hold my pillow

>at night. I wonder if you pull your legs up in your sleep....

Interesting point. I don't levitate in my dreams, but I do almost always

have the ability to fly with arms outstretched -- and I often have my arms

out, though not all the way as in the dream. Hmmm.

I was told a while back that extremely detailed/vivid dreams, or

remembering dreams, is fairly rare... I wonder if the fact that I barely

doze when I sleep unless I'm on Neurontin contributes to my almost always

having highly detailed/realistic dreams that I can remember.

DeGraf ~*~ http://www.sonic.net/mustang/moggy

[Guest guest]

I’ve heard a lot of people say that they dream that they have to

take a test, and have anxiety because they didn’t study. In my

dreams I studied and know the material, but I just don’t feel

like doing it all again. My mom says that means I’m not

challenged in my life. Yeah, right!

Louis

From: jypsy [ janet norman-bain ]

>Louise Gainor wrote:

>

> > I have that dream (nightmare?) too. I always feel like

someone made a

> > clerical mistake and I didn't really graduate, so I have to

go back

> > and finish.

>

>I am always wondering why I am back in high school; in the

dream, I can

>clearly remember graduating and going to college...

I can never remember the combination to my locker.....

-jypsy

[Guest guest]

They had this thing in Omni magazine (anyone else remember that

mag?) about “Lucid Dreaming”. You’re supposed to think about what

you want to do in your dream, then when you go to bed you imagine

that you are spinning around (like a board game spinner). Then

when you fall asleep you’re supposed to be able to direct your

dreams. I tried it a couple of times, and it actually does work

(if you don’t make yourself sick with the spinning). I had to

stop though; it got really weird on me.

The last time I did it I woke up from my dream and was lying in

bed, with my eyes open, looking out into the hallway of my house,

and I was completely paralyzed. I could not move one single

muscle, couldn’t roll over, nothing. My heart was pumping really

hard, but I wasn’t breathing any faster and I couldn’t even

blink. I decided then that I wasn’t messing around with my sleep

anymore. I must have eventually fallen back to sleep, because I

woke up in the morning and was fine. The whole thing could have

been a dream, but I wasn’t going there again!

Louis

From: DeGraf

Sent: Friday, August 08, 2003 11:45 PM

To: AutisticSpectrumTreeHouse

Subject: RE: Dreams (was Re: child/adult...)

Louise Gainor danced around singing:

>I levitate in my dreams, too. I usually cross my arms and point

my elbows

>out, and I'm up! I think I cross my arms because that's how I

hold my pillow

>at night. I wonder if you pull your legs up in your sleep....

Interesting point. I don't levitate in my dreams, but I do

almost always

have the ability to fly with arms outstretched -- and I often

have my arms

out, though not all the way as in the dream. Hmmm.

I was told a while back that extremely detailed/vivid dreams, or

remembering dreams, is fairly rare... I wonder if the fact that I

barely

doze when I sleep unless I'm on Neurontin contributes to my

almost always

having highly detailed/realistic dreams that I can remember.

[Guest guest]

,

I don't know; I'm not on any medication and I have dreams like that quite often.

It's the " lucid dreams " --the ones in which I realize I'm dreaming and know

what's going on--that are rare for me.

RE: Dreams (was Re: child/adult...)

Louise Gainor danced around singing:

>I levitate in my dreams, too. I usually cross my arms and point my elbows

>out, and I'm up! I think I cross my arms because that's how I hold my pillow

>at night. I wonder if you pull your legs up in your sleep....

Interesting point. I don't levitate in my dreams, but I do almost always

have the ability to fly with arms outstretched -- and I often have my arms

out, though not all the way as in the dream. Hmmm.

I was told a while back that extremely detailed/vivid dreams, or

remembering dreams, is fairly rare... I wonder if the fact that I barely

doze when I sleep unless I'm on Neurontin contributes to my almost always

having highly detailed/realistic dreams that I can remember.

DeGraf ~*~ http://www.sonic.net/mustang/moggy

[Guest guest]

Newstead danced around singing:

>I don't know; I'm not on any medication and I have dreams like that quite

>often.

Oops, I think I worded my original sentence correctly. I meant that I have

the detailed dreams *off* medication. If I am *on* meds, then I barely

dream at all, and have far more nightmares.

>It's the " lucid dreams " --the ones in which I realize I'm dreaming and know

>what's going on--that are rare for me.

I used to be able to control things all the time when I was younger. I'm

not sure why I can't do it as well now, or why I keep having so many

unpleasant dreams.

DeGraf ~*~ http://www.sonic.net/mustang/moggy

[Guest guest]

Louise wrote:

>The last time I did it I woke up from my dream and was lying in

>bed, with my eyes open, looking out into the hallway of my house,

>and I was completely paralyzed. I could not move one single

>muscle, couldn’t roll over, nothing. My heart was pumping really

>hard, but I wasn’t breathing any faster and I couldn’t even

>blink.

I go through spates of those dreams occasionally, and I

hate it intensely. I wake up and am paralyzed - totally.

Then, I wake up and realize it was just a dream -- but

I am still paralyzed. Sometimes I wake up three or four

times. By the end, I am wrenching on myself with all my

(mental/emotional/psychic) strength, trying to force my

eye to blink or my nostril to twitch or ANYTHING to

bring me out of it. Exhausting.

Jane

[Guest guest]

,

The lucid dreams are a fairly recent phenomenon for me. The first one I actually

remember being able to control took place about two years ago. Why, I can only

guess. Perhaps as we gain more control and confidence over our waking lives, we

exhibit those same qualities in our dreams? Perhaps you feel you've *lost* some

control in your life these past few years?

Someone mentioned deliberately causing oneself to spin in a dream. I had the

opposite happen--I was spinning wildly in my dream, so much I actually felt

motion-sick, and was able to immediately slow down and stop once I realized I

was dreaming.

I used to be able to control things all the time when I was younger. I'm

not sure why I can't do it as well now, or why I keep having so many

unpleasant dreams.

DeGraf ~*~ http://www.sonic.net/mustang/moggy

[Guest guest]

wrote:

> That sounds like sleep paralysis, yes.

I had sleep paralysis almost nightly for a few years (late 80s to early

90s). I never got used to it; it was always frightening, although I was

able to ride it into a lucid dream state on occasion. I like lucid

dreams; I stick with them (ie stay asleep on purpose) whenever I can. I

do not have full control in a lucid dream; I often give myself the

ability to fly, but I cannot control how high or fast I will fly (I fly

slowly and no more than ten feet off the ground). Once I was lucid

dreaming and I decided to conjure up a female... I did, and she turned

out to be a prostitute. Doh!!

[Guest guest]

Jane wrote:

>A few years ago, I spent a few days in the hospital with

>pneimonia.

{snip story about hallucinating}

I had a similar experience once as a child when I was *very* sick

(flu, iirc). I wasn't hospitalized or put on any drugs, but I was so

sick that i was hallucinating anyway. I remember one particularly

spectacular one, where I was a small boy in some kind of large Viking

warriors' hall like they used to have so long ago. It was filled

with warriors who were feasting and drinking and generally making

merry, and one of them passed me a large stein and told me that beer

hadn't been invented yet, but that when it was, it would taste like

that. I took a drink from the stein and spit it out, disgusted at

the taste, and all the warriors in the hall laughed at me.

It was a very, very weird experience.

--Parrish

[Guest guest]

Can anyone send me the link for the article in Omni?

BTW, I have a colleague on the spectrum, who not only can control his

dreams, but dreams in colour.

Colin.

RE: Dreams (was Re: child/adult...)

Louise Gainor danced around singing:

>I levitate in my dreams, too. I usually cross my arms and point

my elbows

>out, and I'm up! I think I cross my arms because that's how I

hold my pillow

>at night. I wonder if you pull your legs up in your sleep....

Interesting point. I don't levitate in my dreams, but I do

almost always

have the ability to fly with arms outstretched -- and I often

have my arms

out, though not all the way as in the dream. Hmmm.

I was told a while back that extremely detailed/vivid dreams, or

remembering dreams, is fairly rare... I wonder if the fact that I

barely

doze when I sleep unless I'm on Neurontin contributes to my

almost always

having highly detailed/realistic dreams that I can remember.

[Guest guest]

Anyone else have PTSD? I have suffered with it for a while.

Colin.

----- Original Message ----- > These days, while I quite often recognize I'm

dreaming, I rarely do

> anything about it. The only exception is that I know *very* well how to

> wake myself up from nightmares, and will not hesitate to do so. (Which

> is a very handy talent if you happen to have PTSD and near-nightly

> nightmares.)

>

>

>

> --

> " An inability to read body language or intonation or even auditory

> comprehension is not necessary to 'sensing' when a 'brick wall' is

> approaching you. " -Donna

That's called the proprioceptive sense! Most of are heightened in that

modality.

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Colin Wessels wrote:

> BTW, I have a colleague on the spectrum, who not only can control his

> dreams, but dreams in colour.

Of course he dreams in color. Dreams are in color.

[Guest guest]

Not really. I had a recurring dream when I was a kid where I was falling

down into a valley. I always woke in a sweat just before hitting the

bottom. If I recall, it happened at stressful times, but I still have

stress, but the recurrence is down to ~1/decade.

Colin.

RE: Dreams (was Re: child/adult...)

>

>

> > I levitate in my dreams, too. I usually cross my arms and point my

elbows

> > out, and I'm up! I think I cross my arms because that's how I hold my

> pillow

> > at night. I wonder if you pull your legs up in your sleep....

> >

> > Louis

> >

> > From: Klein

> >

> > Louise Gainor wrote:

> >

> > > I have that dream (nightmare?) too. I always feel like someone made a

> > > clerical mistake and I didn't really graduate, so I have to go back

> > > and finish.

> >

> > At one point, I realized that I could still levitate. I can levitate in

> > a lot of my dreams. I just floated straight forward from the chair and

> > pulled my legs up with my hands (I levitate cross-legged) and floated

> > around the waiting room/shop

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

At 05:35 PM 8/9/2003 -0700, you wrote:

>Colin Wessels wrote:

>

> > BTW, I have a colleague on the spectrum, who not only can control his

> > dreams, but dreams in colour.

>

>Of course he dreams in color. Dreams are in color.

>

>

I dream in colour

can anyone *eat* in their dreams?

even when I have had food in my mouth I have never been able to eat it - I

woke up

my mom said (based on her own dream experiences) she figures it's

impossible to eat in your dreams

????

-jypsy

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Autism Spectrum Resources

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jypsy@...

[Guest guest]

Hi,

Your mother is wrong. I not only eat in my dreams, but taste what I'm eating...

I dream in colour

can anyone *eat* in their dreams?

even when I have had food in my mouth I have never been able to eat it - I

woke up

my mom said (based on her own dream experiences) she figures it's

impossible to eat in your dreams

????

-jypsy

________________________________

Ooops....Wrong Planet! Syndrome

Autism Spectrum Resources

www.PlanetAutism.com

jypsy@...

[Guest guest]

jypsy [ janet norman-bain ] wrote:

> I dream in colour

Of course... anyone that sees in color would dream in color. Why would

dreams not be in color? If my brain can comprehend color from my eyes,

why would that same brain not be able to dream up color when I am

asleep? I think black and white is an invention of photography and

television... someone that had only rods in the eyes may not see color,

and may only dream with visual imagery that matches what he can see, but

other than that, I cannot imagine where this idea came from.

I remember in the movie " Oh God, " the guy said to Burns (as God)

that he must be dreaming, so God asked what color his eyes were... he

said blue, and God asked " Do you dream in color? " and he said no.

Funny the things that people don't realize. A lot of people think that

drains only go counterclockwise in the northern hemisphere, but that is

false. The Coriolis force is not enough to affect a drain in the way

that people think it will. In my shower, it is 50/50 which way it will

go, and I can reverse it at will by spinning it around the other way

with my finger, and it will keep going that way until something disrupts

it. Toilets only go one way because the jets at the edge of the rim are

angled.

> can anyone *eat* in their dreams? even when I have

> had food in my mouth I have never been able to eat it - I woke up my

> mom said (based on her own dream experiences) she figures it's

> impossible to eat in your dreams ????

I can't imagine that being so. I cannot recall eating in dreams,

successfully or otherwise. I do not know why it would be impossible to

eat in dreams.

I have been shot and felt the burning pain in my dreams many times.

[Guest guest]

maybe now that we know that we'll be able to

I'll go for thick sliced French bread with well aged cheddar

(my gc/cf diet show?)

night.....

-jypsy

At 07:59 PM 8/9/2003 -0500, you wrote:

>Hi,

>

>Your mother is wrong. I not only eat in my dreams, but taste what I'm

>eating...

>

>

> I dream in colour

> can anyone *eat* in their dreams?

> even when I have had food in my mouth I have never been able to eat it - I

> woke up

> my mom said (based on her own dream experiences) she figures it's

> impossible to eat in your dreams

> ????

>

> -jypsy

>

>

> ________________________________

> Ooops....Wrong Planet! Syndrome

> Autism Spectrum Resources

> www.PlanetAutism.com

> jypsy@...

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Whether or not *everyone* dreams in colour is still unproven.

What most people remember about their dreams is the *absence* or colour - at

least what they remember.

That is why I asked the question - who dreams in colour? What I should have

asked was - who remembers that they dream in colour?

I do not recall any colour content in my dreams. It is like a dimension is

missing. the other detail is fairly clear.

Colin.

BTW dogs are reported to see in monochrome. Perhaps dreams for some do not

use all levels of " consciousness " ?

Re: Dreams (was Re: child/adult...)

> jypsy [ janet norman-bain ] wrote:

>

> > I dream in colour

>

> Of course... anyone that sees in color would dream in color. Why would

> dreams not be in color? If my brain can comprehend color from my eyes,

> why would that same brain not be able to dream up color when I am

> asleep? I think black and white is an invention of photography and

> television... someone that had only rods in the eyes may not see color,

> and may only dream with visual imagery that matches what he can see, but

> other than that, I cannot imagine where this idea came from.

>

> I remember in the movie " Oh God, " the guy said to Burns (as God)

> that he must be dreaming, so God asked what color his eyes were... he

> said blue, and God asked " Do you dream in color? " and he said no.

>

> Funny the things that people don't realize. A lot of people think that

> drains only go counterclockwise in the northern hemisphere, but that is

> false. The Coriolis force is not enough to affect a drain in the way

> that people think it will. In my shower, it is 50/50 which way it will

> go, and I can reverse it at will by spinning it around the other way

> with my finger, and it will keep going that way until something disrupts

> it. Toilets only go one way because the jets at the edge of the rim are

> angled.

>

> > can anyone *eat* in their dreams? even when I have

> > had food in my mouth I have never been able to eat it - I woke up my

> > mom said (based on her own dream experiences) she figures it's

> > impossible to eat in your dreams ????

>

> I can't imagine that being so. I cannot recall eating in dreams,

> successfully or otherwise. I do not know why it would be impossible to

> eat in dreams.

>

> I have been shot and felt the burning pain in my dreams many times.

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Me too. I am miffed when I wake to find that my favourite food is gone.

Colin.

Re: Dreams (was Re: child/adult...)

> Hi,

>

> Your mother is wrong. I not only eat in my dreams, but taste what I'm

eating...

>

>

> I dream in colour

> can anyone *eat* in their dreams?

> even when I have had food in my mouth I have never been able to eat it -

I

> woke up

> my mom said (based on her own dream experiences) she figures it's

> impossible to eat in your dreams

> ????

>

> -jypsy

>

>

> ________________________________

> Ooops....Wrong Planet! Syndrome

> Autism Spectrum Resources

> www.PlanetAutism.com

> jypsy@...

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I do. And I have some of the most intense flashbacks that the local pros

have ever heard of. Ah the joys of kinesthetic thinking...

Kassiane

< Re: Dreams (was Re: child/adult...)

Anyone else have PTSD? I have suffered with it for a while.

Colin.

----- Original Message ----- > These days, while I quite often recognize

I'm

dreaming, I rarely do

> anything about it. The only exception is that I know *very* well how

to

> wake myself up from nightmares, and will not hesitate to do so.

(Which

> is a very handy talent if you happen to have PTSD and near-nightly

> nightmares.)

>

>

>

> --

> " An inability to read body language or intonation or even auditory

> comprehension is not necessary to 'sensing' when a 'brick wall' is

> approaching you. " -Donna

That's called the proprioceptive sense! Most of are heightened in that

modality.

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I can eat in my dreams. I have really intense dreams, though....intense,

lifelike, fully sensate, and for a long period of time 3/4 of them would

occur within a week (and some of the other 1/4 still happen years later)

Kassiane

< Re: Dreams (was Re: child/adult...)

At 05:35 PM 8/9/2003 -0700, you wrote:

>Colin Wessels wrote:

>

> > BTW, I have a colleague on the spectrum, who not only can control

his

> > dreams, but dreams in colour.

>

>Of course he dreams in color. Dreams are in color.

>

>

I dream in colour

can anyone *eat* in their dreams?

even when I have had food in my mouth I have never been able to eat it -

I

woke up

my mom said (based on her own dream experiences) she figures it's

impossible to eat in your dreams

????

-jypsy

________________________________

Ooops....Wrong Planet! Syndrome

Autism Spectrum Resources

www.PlanetAutism.com

jypsy@...

[Guest guest]

Kassiane Yelbis danced around singing:

>I can eat in my dreams. I have really intense dreams, though....intense,

>lifelike, fully sensate, and for a long period of time 3/4 of them would

>occur within a week (and some of the other 1/4 still happen years later)

I also tend to have intense dreams that are often precognitive as well --

not in the " this is vaguely similar " sense, but extreme details about

places I haven't been and people I haven't met yet. Those typically take

place 1 - 5 years later in clumps (that is, three in a month or something

similar). I used to write them down every morning upon waking up so I

could verify them later (hence my being able to do more than say " gee,

feels like deja vu " ) and really should get into that habit again, because I

started noticing things coming true again today...

DeGraf ~*~ http://www.sonic.net/mustang/moggy

[Guest guest]

<-----Original Message----->

Kassiane Yelbis danced around singing:

>I can eat in my dreams. I have really intense dreams,

though....intense,

>lifelike, fully sensate, and for a long period of time 3/4 of them

would

>occur within a week (and some of the other 1/4 still happen years

later)

I also tend to have intense dreams that are often precognitive as well

--

not in the " this is vaguely similar " sense, but extreme details about

places I haven't been and people I haven't met yet. Those typically

take

place 1 - 5 years later in clumps (that is, three in a month or

something

similar). I used to write them down every morning upon waking up so I

could verify them later (hence my being able to do more than say " gee,

feels like deja vu " ) and really should get into that habit again,

because I

started noticing things coming true again today...>>

Thats how mine are. REALLY detailed. WHen I was 8 I dreamed my first

dance class, 10 years later. Creepy, in a way...

Kassiane

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[Guest guest]

Hi ,

I have dreams like that. I don't know if I could classify them as

" precognitive " , as they haven't come true--yet.

A few years back I had a recurring dream in which I was in a library and saw

books I had that presumably had been written by me, even though I've not written

anything yet (or a book on cartoonists that had an entry about me). I could

never get a handle on a time frame--anywhere from ten to twenty years in the

future. I never get to actually read the darn things, since I wake up before

that. Honestly, though, that's probably more wishful thinking than

precognition...

Re: Dreams (was Re: child/adult...)

I also tend to have intense dreams that are often precognitive as well --

not in the " this is vaguely similar " sense, but extreme details about

places I haven't been and people I haven't met yet. Those typically take

place 1 - 5 years later in clumps (that is, three in a month or something

similar). I used to write them down every morning upon waking up so I

could verify them later (hence my being able to do more than say " gee,

feels like deja vu " ) and really should get into that habit again, because I

started noticing things coming true again today...

DeGraf ~*~ http://www.sonic.net/mustang/moggy

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 8/10/2003 11:00:31 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

jane@... writes:

> The dream of unknown cities comes again

> in cratered darkness full of ruined souls

> and ancient fountains playing dust to dust.

> The busses are the life-stream, bright as chandeliers,

> the ballrooms of a dying celebration.

> Crystal faces, flinting light,

> are clicking in the midnight wind

> of dead and never-sainted desperation.

>

> Jane

>

>

this was beautiful, Jane, yes.

Juli ASD mother to Nicollette Rett Syndrome w/autism