Guest guest Posted June 24, 2011 Report Share Posted June 24, 2011 Not yet but I'll tell you soon. is good example of somebody with bowel issues and a fragile consitution (more in looks that actual maybe). Mx Have people with inflamed or ulcerated guts taken it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 24, 2011 Report Share Posted June 24, 2011 As with all brands there are good and not so good! Marina x Not yet but I'll tell you soon. is good example of somebody with bowel issues and a fragile consitution (more in looks that actual maybe). Mx Have people with inflamed or ulcerated guts taken it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 24, 2011 Report Share Posted June 24, 2011 hi tracey, can you give the diatom website which one is the right one. i have spoken to linda today who believes that the use of this alongside h2o2[ hyd peroxide] will be a good initial option for usman to clear his gut further and she talked about the negative charge that is created which helps.the antiviral drugs she was not so sure of as she felt there are natural alternatives. she felt the immune system will have less of the work when the bugs and toxins etc are got rid off. i am not sure what she felt h2o2 would do. i have ordered transfer factors today so not sure if i should try diatom after starting them or before. ok hope you can get back thks tahira To: Autism-Biomedical-Europe Sent: Fri, 24 June, 2011 16:52:21Subject: Re: Re: Diatom Well Margaret there are so many things you can do with it.. you may need that quantity. YOu can sprinkle it around your house to stop the ants invading.. they do not like the sharpness on their little legs and feet You could feed it to all the local farm animals to help rid them of their parasites you could use a handful and add water and use it as an amazing body scrub... and the list goes on.. I have been taking it for about 2 weeks and definite improvement in my skin.. and my eyesight... which I think may link with a detoxing effect by cleansing the colon.. Tree trunk legs have glimmers of shapeliness.. and blotchy bits on legs going too. has a number of young patients with major disabilities and mobility issues and they are taking it and doing well.. For people with inflammatory conditions in the colon, I read this week that the vila in their colons can flatten to reduct surface area to absorb food and with slow motility this creates an almost limescale like lining in the colon.. so this very gentle abrasion cleanses as it passes along.. and no one has noticed and corrosive effects from taking it. Best Wishes Tracey It would be interesting to hear how you get on with it. I assume you are not starting with the 900kg size? (grin)Margaret >> I will getting some of this brand to use on me and Sam also> > Mandi x> > > In a message dated 24/06/2011 13:47:52 GMT Daylight Time, > greenkirsty1@... writes:> > > > > > I had a lengthy conversation with today and the diatom from > www.diatom.co.uk is absolutely fine. > Cannot speak for other companies but there is no problems with this brand > at all. I have started Sam on 1/2 tsp a day> > > Kirsty> x> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 25, 2011 Report Share Posted June 25, 2011 Dear TahiraDiatom is inert.. so it should not cause problems when you are using it along side other things.. It may be better to give Diatom am and the other pm so that the body has time to digest it before the colon is cleansed. I buy mine from www.diatomx.co.ukMake sure you buy the human grade one.A clean colon is such a good basis for returning health.. It may be that you might see a little more seizure activity because as the colon works better the body will be able to detox.. on the other hand he may simply adjust to this increased state of health. http://diatomx.co.uk/epages/eshop439661.sf/en_GB/?ObjectPath=/Shops/eshop439661/Categories/%22Diatom%20for%20Humans%22 Hydrogen peroxide is a very powerful antioxidant and oxidiser.. It is a very powerful healer.. and in Africa it is often used instead of antibiotics. When I cut the tip off my finger and it became infected H2O2 cleared the infection in days.. and left no scaring .. so I think it is a very safe and simple healing agent. Best WishesTraceyIt would be good to ensure you are doing TST at full prescription before adding these.. just to allow usman's circulation to be as efficiently as possible. hi tracey, can you give the diatom website which one is the right one. i have spoken to linda today who believes that the use of this alongside h2o2[ hyd peroxide] will be a good initial option for usman to clear his gut further and she talked about the negative charge that is created which helps.the antiviral drugs she was not so sure of as she felt there are natural alternatives. she felt the immune system will have less of the work when the bugs and toxins etc are got rid off. i am not sure what she felt h2o2 would do. i have ordered transfer factors today so not sure if i should try diatom after starting them or before. ok hope you can get back thks tahira To: Autism-Biomedical-Europe Sent: Fri, 24 June, 2011 16:52:21Subject: Re: Re: Diatom Well Margaret there are so many things you can do with it.. you may need that quantity. YOu can sprinkle it around your house to stop the ants invading.. they do not like the sharpness on their little legs and feet You could feed it to all the local farm animals to help rid them of their parasites you could use a handful and add water and use it as an amazing body scrub... and the list goes on.. I have been taking it for about 2 weeks and definite improvement in my skin.. and my eyesight... which I think may link with a detoxing effect by cleansing the colon.. Tree trunk legs have glimmers of shapeliness.. and blotchy bits on legs going too. has a number of young patients with major disabilities and mobility issues and they are taking it and doing well.. For people with inflammatory conditions in the colon, I read this week that the vila in their colons can flatten to reduct surface area to absorb food and with slow motility this creates an almost limescale like lining in the colon.. so this very gentle abrasion cleanses as it passes along.. and no one has noticed and corrosive effects from taking it. Best Wishes Tracey It would be interesting to hear how you get on with it. I assume you are not starting with the 900kg size? (grin)Margaret >> I will getting some of this brand to use on me and Sam also > > Mandi x> > > In a message dated 24/06/2011 13:47:52 GMT Daylight Time, > greenkirsty1@... writes:> > > > > > I had a lengthy conversation with today and the diatom from > www.diatom.co.uk is absolutely fine. > Cannot speak for other companies but there is no problems with this brand > at all. I have started Sam on 1/2 tsp a day> > > Kirsty> x> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 25, 2011 Report Share Posted June 25, 2011 tracey thanks i read all you have said, one thging is that vit e being antioxidant always we notice increase in the number of seizures he has when give this, i wonder how he will cope and react with the h2o2. also i tried calling the diatom contact number there is no answer from both. what is the best time to call them? or is it easy to do online order? thks tahira To: Autism-Biomedical-Europe Sent: Sat, 25 June, 2011 9:30:56Subject: Re: Re: Diatom Dear Tahira Diatom is inert.. so it should not cause problems when you are using it along side other things.. It may be better to give Diatom am and the other pm so that the body has time to digest it before the colon is cleansed. I buy mine from www.diatomx.co.uk Make sure you buy the human grade one. A clean colon is such a good basis for returning health.. It may be that you might see a little more seizure activity because as the colon works better the body will be able to detox.. on the other hand he may simply adjust to this increased state of health. http://diatomx.co.uk/epages/eshop439661.sf/en_GB/?ObjectPath=/Shops/eshop439661/Categories/%22Diatom%20for%20Humans%22 Hydrogen peroxide is a very powerful antioxidant and oxidiser.. It is a very powerful healer.. and in Africa it is often used instead of antibiotics. When I cut the tip off my finger and it became infected H2O2 cleared the infection in days.. and left no scaring .. so I think it is a very safe and simple healing agent. Best Wishes Tracey It would be good to ensure you are doing TST at full prescription before adding these.. just to allow usman's circulation to be as efficiently as possible. hi tracey, can you give the diatom website which one is the right one. i have spoken to linda today who believes that the use of this alongside h2o2[ hyd peroxide] will be a good initial option for usman to clear his gut further and she talked about the negative charge that is created which helps.the antiviral drugs she was not so sure of as she felt there are natural alternatives. she felt the immune system will have less of the work when the bugs and toxins etc are got rid off. i am not sure what she felt h2o2 would do. i have ordered transfer factors today so not sure if i should try diatom after starting them or before. ok hope you can get back thks tahira To: Autism-Biomedical-Europe Sent: Fri, 24 June, 2011 16:52:21Subject: Re: Re: Diatom Well Margaret there are so many things you can do with it.. you may need that quantity. YOu can sprinkle it around your house to stop the ants invading.. they do not like the sharpness on their little legs and feet You could feed it to all the local farm animals to help rid them of their parasites you could use a handful and add water and use it as an amazing body scrub... and the list goes on.. I have been taking it for about 2 weeks and definite improvement in my skin.. and my eyesight... which I think may link with a detoxing effect by cleansing the colon.. Tree trunk legs have glimmers of shapeliness.. and blotchy bits on legs going too. has a number of young patients with major disabilities and mobility issues and they are taking it and doing well.. For people with inflammatory conditions in the colon, I read this week that the vila in their colons can flatten to reduct surface area to absorb food and with slow motility this creates an almost limescale like lining in the colon.. so this very gentle abrasion cleanses as it passes along.. and no one has noticed and corrosive effects from taking it. Best Wishes Tracey It would be interesting to hear how you get on with it. I assume you are not starting with the 900kg size? (grin)Margaret >> I will getting some of this brand to use on me and Sam also> > Mandi x> > > In a message dated 24/06/2011 13:47:52 GMT Daylight Time, > greenkirsty1@... writes:> > > > > > I had a lengthy conversation with today and the diatom from > www.diatom.co.uk is absolutely fine. > Cannot speak for other companies but there is no problems with this brand > at all. I have started Sam on 1/2 tsp a day> > > Kirsty> x> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 25, 2011 Report Share Posted June 25, 2011 tracey thanks i read all you have said, one thging is that vit e being antioxidant always we notice increase in the number of seizures he has when give this, i wonder how he will cope and react with the h2o2. also i tried calling the diatom contact number there is no answer from both. what is the best time to call them? or is it easy to do online order? thks tahira To: Autism-Biomedical-Europe Sent: Sat, 25 June, 2011 9:30:56Subject: Re: Re: Diatom Dear Tahira Diatom is inert.. so it should not cause problems when you are using it along side other things.. It may be better to give Diatom am and the other pm so that the body has time to digest it before the colon is cleansed. I buy mine from www.diatomx.co.uk Make sure you buy the human grade one. A clean colon is such a good basis for returning health.. It may be that you might see a little more seizure activity because as the colon works better the body will be able to detox.. on the other hand he may simply adjust to this increased state of health. http://diatomx.co.uk/epages/eshop439661.sf/en_GB/?ObjectPath=/Shops/eshop439661/Categories/%22Diatom%20for%20Humans%22 Hydrogen peroxide is a very powerful antioxidant and oxidiser.. It is a very powerful healer.. and in Africa it is often used instead of antibiotics. When I cut the tip off my finger and it became infected H2O2 cleared the infection in days.. and left no scaring .. so I think it is a very safe and simple healing agent. Best Wishes Tracey It would be good to ensure you are doing TST at full prescription before adding these.. just to allow usman's circulation to be as efficiently as possible. hi tracey, can you give the diatom website which one is the right one. i have spoken to linda today who believes that the use of this alongside h2o2[ hyd peroxide] will be a good initial option for usman to clear his gut further and she talked about the negative charge that is created which helps.the antiviral drugs she was not so sure of as she felt there are natural alternatives. she felt the immune system will have less of the work when the bugs and toxins etc are got rid off. i am not sure what she felt h2o2 would do. i have ordered transfer factors today so not sure if i should try diatom after starting them or before. ok hope you can get back thks tahira To: Autism-Biomedical-Europe Sent: Fri, 24 June, 2011 16:52:21Subject: Re: Re: Diatom Well Margaret there are so many things you can do with it.. you may need that quantity. YOu can sprinkle it around your house to stop the ants invading.. they do not like the sharpness on their little legs and feet You could feed it to all the local farm animals to help rid them of their parasites you could use a handful and add water and use it as an amazing body scrub... and the list goes on.. I have been taking it for about 2 weeks and definite improvement in my skin.. and my eyesight... which I think may link with a detoxing effect by cleansing the colon.. Tree trunk legs have glimmers of shapeliness.. and blotchy bits on legs going too. has a number of young patients with major disabilities and mobility issues and they are taking it and doing well.. For people with inflammatory conditions in the colon, I read this week that the vila in their colons can flatten to reduct surface area to absorb food and with slow motility this creates an almost limescale like lining in the colon.. so this very gentle abrasion cleanses as it passes along.. and no one has noticed and corrosive effects from taking it. Best Wishes Tracey It would be interesting to hear how you get on with it. I assume you are not starting with the 900kg size? (grin)Margaret >> I will getting some of this brand to use on me and Sam also> > Mandi x> > > In a message dated 24/06/2011 13:47:52 GMT Daylight Time, > greenkirsty1@... writes:> > > > > > I had a lengthy conversation with today and the diatom from > www.diatom.co.uk is absolutely fine. > Cannot speak for other companies but there is no problems with this brand > at all. I have started Sam on 1/2 tsp a day> > > Kirsty> x> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 25, 2011 Report Share Posted June 25, 2011 the metals in his system have come out mild level but i have been told >>What sort of test was this? .. do yoiu feel diet , supps and exercises cn still leave toxicity hanging around >>If he has Mercury in his brain then yes IMHO Mandi x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 25, 2011 Report Share Posted June 25, 2011 the metals in his system have come out mild level but i have been told >>What sort of test was this? .. do yoiu feel diet , supps and exercises cn still leave toxicity hanging around >>If he has Mercury in his brain then yes IMHO Mandi x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 25, 2011 Report Share Posted June 25, 2011 On line is best.. they will have it delivered to your door next working day.. I think with the state of Usman's gut that unless you clear his system it will be very difficult for him to begin to really heal and to be able to grow beyond his seizures. Best WishesTracey tracey thanks i read all you have said, one thging is that vit e being antioxidant always we notice increase in the number of seizures he has when give this, i wonder how he will cope and react with the h2o2. also i tried calling the diatom contact number there is no answer from both. what is the best time to call them? or is it easy to do online order? thks tahira To: Autism-Biomedical-Europe Sent: Sat, 25 June, 2011 9:30:56Subject: Re: Re: Diatom Dear Tahira Diatom is inert.. so it should not cause problems when you are using it along side other things.. It may be better to give Diatom am and the other pm so that the body has time to digest it before the colon is cleansed. I buy mine from www.diatomx.co.uk Make sure you buy the human grade one. A clean colon is such a good basis for returning health.. It may be that you might see a little more seizure activity because as the colon works better the body will be able to detox.. on the other hand he may simply adjust to this increased state of health. http://diatomx.co.uk/epages/eshop439661.sf/en_GB/?ObjectPath=/Shops/eshop439661/Categories/%22Diatom%20for%20Humans%22 Hydrogen peroxide is a very powerful antioxidant and oxidiser.. It is a very powerful healer.. and in Africa it is often used instead of antibiotics. When I cut the tip off my finger and it became infected H2O2 cleared the infection in days.. and left no scaring .. so I think it is a very safe and simple healing agent. Best Wishes Tracey It would be good to ensure you are doing TST at full prescription before adding these.. just to allow usman's circulation to be as efficiently as possible. hi tracey, can you give the diatom website which one is the right one. i have spoken to linda today who believes that the use of this alongside h2o2[ hyd peroxide] will be a good initial option for usman to clear his gut further and she talked about the negative charge that is created which helps.the antiviral drugs she was not so sure of as she felt there are natural alternatives. she felt the immune system will have less of the work when the bugs and toxins etc are got rid off. i am not sure what she felt h2o2 would do. i have ordered transfer factors today so not sure if i should try diatom after starting them or before. ok hope you can get back thks tahira To: Autism-Biomedical-Europe Sent: Fri, 24 June, 2011 16:52:21Subject: Re: Re: Diatom Well Margaret there are so many things you can do with it.. you may need that quantity. YOu can sprinkle it around your house to stop the ants invading.. they do not like the sharpness on their little legs and feet You could feed it to all the local farm animals to help rid them of their parasites you could use a handful and add water and use it as an amazing body scrub... and the list goes on.. I have been taking it for about 2 weeks and definite improvement in my skin.. and my eyesight... which I think may link with a detoxing effect by cleansing the colon.. Tree trunk legs have glimmers of shapeliness.. and blotchy bits on legs going too. has a number of young patients with major disabilities and mobility issues and they are taking it and doing well.. For people with inflammatory conditions in the colon, I read this week that the vila in their colons can flatten to reduct surface area to absorb food and with slow motility this creates an almost limescale like lining in the colon.. so this very gentle abrasion cleanses as it passes along.. and no one has noticed and corrosive effects from taking it. Best Wishes Tracey It would be interesting to hear how you get on with it. I assume you are not starting with the 900kg size? (grin)Margaret >> I will getting some of this brand to use on me and Sam also > > Mandi x> > > In a message dated 24/06/2011 13:47:52 GMT Daylight Time, > greenkirsty1@... writes:> > > > > > I had a lengthy conversation with today and the diatom from > www.diatom.co.uk is absolutely fine. > Cannot speak for other companies but there is no problems with this brand > at all. I have started Sam on 1/2 tsp a day> > > Kirsty> x> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 25, 2011 Report Share Posted June 25, 2011 On line is best.. they will have it delivered to your door next working day.. I think with the state of Usman's gut that unless you clear his system it will be very difficult for him to begin to really heal and to be able to grow beyond his seizures. Best WishesTracey tracey thanks i read all you have said, one thging is that vit e being antioxidant always we notice increase in the number of seizures he has when give this, i wonder how he will cope and react with the h2o2. also i tried calling the diatom contact number there is no answer from both. what is the best time to call them? or is it easy to do online order? thks tahira To: Autism-Biomedical-Europe Sent: Sat, 25 June, 2011 9:30:56Subject: Re: Re: Diatom Dear Tahira Diatom is inert.. so it should not cause problems when you are using it along side other things.. It may be better to give Diatom am and the other pm so that the body has time to digest it before the colon is cleansed. I buy mine from www.diatomx.co.uk Make sure you buy the human grade one. A clean colon is such a good basis for returning health.. It may be that you might see a little more seizure activity because as the colon works better the body will be able to detox.. on the other hand he may simply adjust to this increased state of health. http://diatomx.co.uk/epages/eshop439661.sf/en_GB/?ObjectPath=/Shops/eshop439661/Categories/%22Diatom%20for%20Humans%22 Hydrogen peroxide is a very powerful antioxidant and oxidiser.. It is a very powerful healer.. and in Africa it is often used instead of antibiotics. When I cut the tip off my finger and it became infected H2O2 cleared the infection in days.. and left no scaring .. so I think it is a very safe and simple healing agent. Best Wishes Tracey It would be good to ensure you are doing TST at full prescription before adding these.. just to allow usman's circulation to be as efficiently as possible. hi tracey, can you give the diatom website which one is the right one. i have spoken to linda today who believes that the use of this alongside h2o2[ hyd peroxide] will be a good initial option for usman to clear his gut further and she talked about the negative charge that is created which helps.the antiviral drugs she was not so sure of as she felt there are natural alternatives. she felt the immune system will have less of the work when the bugs and toxins etc are got rid off. i am not sure what she felt h2o2 would do. i have ordered transfer factors today so not sure if i should try diatom after starting them or before. ok hope you can get back thks tahira To: Autism-Biomedical-Europe Sent: Fri, 24 June, 2011 16:52:21Subject: Re: Re: Diatom Well Margaret there are so many things you can do with it.. you may need that quantity. YOu can sprinkle it around your house to stop the ants invading.. they do not like the sharpness on their little legs and feet You could feed it to all the local farm animals to help rid them of their parasites you could use a handful and add water and use it as an amazing body scrub... and the list goes on.. I have been taking it for about 2 weeks and definite improvement in my skin.. and my eyesight... which I think may link with a detoxing effect by cleansing the colon.. Tree trunk legs have glimmers of shapeliness.. and blotchy bits on legs going too. has a number of young patients with major disabilities and mobility issues and they are taking it and doing well.. For people with inflammatory conditions in the colon, I read this week that the vila in their colons can flatten to reduct surface area to absorb food and with slow motility this creates an almost limescale like lining in the colon.. so this very gentle abrasion cleanses as it passes along.. and no one has noticed and corrosive effects from taking it. Best Wishes Tracey It would be interesting to hear how you get on with it. I assume you are not starting with the 900kg size? (grin)Margaret >> I will getting some of this brand to use on me and Sam also > > Mandi x> > > In a message dated 24/06/2011 13:47:52 GMT Daylight Time, > greenkirsty1@... writes:> > > > > > I had a lengthy conversation with today and the diatom from > www.diatom.co.uk is absolutely fine. > Cannot speak for other companies but there is no problems with this brand > at all. I have started Sam on 1/2 tsp a day> > > Kirsty> x> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 25, 2011 Report Share Posted June 25, 2011 i have been working with jean the nutritioinist we have done alot for the gut i have included lindas advice too. he is able to poop once a day[rem he was seserely constipated fpr two yrs] he is now on the scd and gfcf fully and also gaps diiets but he does have dark eye circles but just dont know what else i can do. the metals in his system have come out mild level but i have been told he has immunotoxic effects. will know beter once results come back next week.but in the meantime i would like to do diatom, just scared as he is prone to increased seizures very easily. do yoiu feel diet , supps and exercises cn still leave toxicity hanging around. To: Autism-Biomedical-Europe Sent: Sat, 25 June, 2011 13:26:57Subject: Re: Re: Diatom On line is best.. they will have it delivered to your door next working day.. I think with the state of Usman's gut that unless you clear his system it will be very difficult for him to begin to really heal and to be able to grow beyond his seizures. Best Wishes Tracey tracey thanks i read all you have said, one thging is that vit e being antioxidant always we notice increase in the number of seizures he has when give this, i wonder how he will cope and react with the h2o2. also i tried calling the diatom contact number there is no answer from both. what is the best time to call them? or is it easy to do online order? thks tahira To: Autism-Biomedical-Europe Sent: Sat, 25 June, 2011 9:30:56 Subject: Re: Re: Diatom Dear Tahira Diatom is inert.. so it should not cause problems when you are using it along side other things.. It may be better to give Diatom am and the other pm so that the body has time to digest it before the colon is cleansed. I buy mine from www.diatomx.co.uk Make sure you buy the human grade one. A clean colon is such a good basis for returning health.. It may be that you might see a little more seizure activity because as the colon works better the body will be able to detox.. on the other hand he may simply adjust to this increased state of health. http://diatomx.co.uk/epages/eshop439661.sf/en_GB/?ObjectPath=/Shops/eshop439661/Categories/%22Diatom%20for%20Humans%22 Hydrogen peroxide is a very powerful antioxidant and oxidiser.. It is a very powerful healer.. and in Africa it is often used instead of antibiotics. When I cut the tip off my finger and it became infected H2O2 cleared the infection in days.. and left no scaring .. so I think it is a very safe and simple healing agent. Best Wishes Tracey It would be good to ensure you are doing TST at full prescription before adding these.. just to allow usman's circulation to be as efficiently as possible. hi tracey, can you give the diatom website which one is the right one. i have spoken to linda today who believes that the use of this alongside h2o2[ hyd peroxide] will be a good initial option for usman to clear his gut further and she talked about the negative charge that is created which helps.the antiviral drugs she was not so sure of as she felt there are natural alternatives. she felt the immune system will have less of the work when the bugs and toxins etc are got rid off. i am not sure what she felt h2o2 would do. i have ordered transfer factors today so not sure if i should try diatom after starting them or before. ok hope you can get back thks tahira To: Autism-Biomedical-Europe Sent: Fri, 24 June, 2011 16:52:21Subject: Re: Re: Diatom Well Margaret there are so many things you can do with it.. you may need that quantity. YOu can sprinkle it around your house to stop the ants invading.. they do not like the sharpness on their little legs and feet You could feed it to all the local farm animals to help rid them of their parasites you could use a handful and add water and use it as an amazing body scrub... and the list goes on.. I have been taking it for about 2 weeks and definite improvement in my skin.. and my eyesight... which I think may link with a detoxing effect by cleansing the colon.. Tree trunk legs have glimmers of shapeliness.. and blotchy bits on legs going too. has a number of young patients with major disabilities and mobility issues and they are taking it and doing well.. For people with inflammatory conditions in the colon, I read this week that the vila in their colons can flatten to reduct surface area to absorb food and with slow motility this creates an almost limescale like lining in the colon.. so this very gentle abrasion cleanses as it passes along.. and no one has noticed and corrosive effects from taking it. Best Wishes Tracey It would be interesting to hear how you get on with it. I assume you are not starting with the 900kg size? (grin)Margaret >> I will getting some of this brand to use on me and Sam also> > Mandi x> > > In a message dated 24/06/2011 13:47:52 GMT Daylight Time, > greenkirsty1@... writes:> > > > > > I had a lengthy conversation with today and the diatom from > www.diatom.co.uk is absolutely fine. > Cannot speak for other companies but there is no problems with this brand > at all. I have started Sam on 1/2 tsp a day> > > Kirsty> x> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 25, 2011 Report Share Posted June 25, 2011 Yes.. because if the gut has been inflamed for a while you end up with the equivalent of limescale along the colon so the little Vila... the sticky out bits you see in Tripe.. lie flat and become covered with dried out waste.. Short of having colonic hydro therapy for some time, most other things will not address this problem.. I believe that the Diatom does as it breaks down this stuff and lets it pass through the gut. I think that you need to focus on our fears and anxieties .. because this energy will be read really easily by Usman and he will react to this fear and become anxious. I say seize the day and decide that this is a treatment that he needs and that this is the key to making him even better.. and possibly start off on a small amount.. 1 tsp per day.. His body will thank you for it!! Tracey i have been working with jean the nutritioinist we have done alot for the gut i have included lindas advice too. he is able to poop once a day[rem he was seserely constipated fpr two yrs] he is now on the scd and gfcf fully and also gaps diiets but he does have dark eye circles but just dont know what else i can do. the metals in his system have come out mild level but i have been told he has immunotoxic effects. will know beter once results come back next week.but in the meantime i would like to do diatom, just scared as he is prone to increased seizures very easily. do yoiu feel diet , supps and exercises cn still leave toxicity hanging around. To: Autism-Biomedical-Europe Sent: Sat, 25 June, 2011 13:26:57Subject: Re: Re: Diatom On line is best.. they will have it delivered to your door next working day.. I think with the state of Usman's gut that unless you clear his system it will be very difficult for him to begin to really heal and to be able to grow beyond his seizures. Best Wishes Tracey tracey thanks i read all you have said, one thging is that vit e being antioxidant always we notice increase in the number of seizures he has when give this, i wonder how he will cope and react with the h2o2. also i tried calling the diatom contact number there is no answer from both. what is the best time to call them? or is it easy to do online order? thks tahira To: Autism-Biomedical-Europe Sent: Sat, 25 June, 2011 9:30:56 Subject: Re: Re: Diatom Dear Tahira Diatom is inert.. so it should not cause problems when you are using it along side other things.. It may be better to give Diatom am and the other pm so that the body has time to digest it before the colon is cleansed. I buy mine from www.diatomx.co.uk Make sure you buy the human grade one. A clean colon is such a good basis for returning health.. It may be that you might see a little more seizure activity because as the colon works better the body will be able to detox.. on the other hand he may simply adjust to this increased state of health. http://diatomx.co.uk/epages/eshop439661.sf/en_GB/?ObjectPath=/Shops/eshop439661/Categories/%22Diatom%20for%20Humans%22 Hydrogen peroxide is a very powerful antioxidant and oxidiser.. It is a very powerful healer.. and in Africa it is often used instead of antibiotics. When I cut the tip off my finger and it became infected H2O2 cleared the infection in days.. and left no scaring .. so I think it is a very safe and simple healing agent. Best Wishes Tracey It would be good to ensure you are doing TST at full prescription before adding these.. just to allow usman's circulation to be as efficiently as possible. hi tracey, can you give the diatom website which one is the right one. i have spoken to linda today who believes that the use of this alongside h2o2[ hyd peroxide] will be a good initial option for usman to clear his gut further and she talked about the negative charge that is created which helps.the antiviral drugs she was not so sure of as she felt there are natural alternatives. she felt the immune system will have less of the work when the bugs and toxins etc are got rid off. i am not sure what she felt h2o2 would do. i have ordered transfer factors today so not sure if i should try diatom after starting them or before. ok hope you can get back thks tahira To: Autism-Biomedical-Europe Sent: Fri, 24 June, 2011 16:52:21Subject: Re: Re: Diatom Well Margaret there are so many things you can do with it.. you may need that quantity. YOu can sprinkle it around your house to stop the ants invading.. they do not like the sharpness on their little legs and feet You could feed it to all the local farm animals to help rid them of their parasites you could use a handful and add water and use it as an amazing body scrub... and the list goes on.. I have been taking it for about 2 weeks and definite improvement in my skin.. and my eyesight... which I think may link with a detoxing effect by cleansing the colon.. Tree trunk legs have glimmers of shapeliness.. and blotchy bits on legs going too. has a number of young patients with major disabilities and mobility issues and they are taking it and doing well.. For people with inflammatory conditions in the colon, I read this week that the vila in their colons can flatten to reduct surface area to absorb food and with slow motility this creates an almost limescale like lining in the colon.. so this very gentle abrasion cleanses as it passes along.. and no one has noticed and corrosive effects from taking it. Best Wishes Tracey It would be interesting to hear how you get on with it. I assume you are not starting with the 900kg size? (grin)Margaret >> I will getting some of this brand to use on me and Sam also > > Mandi x> > > In a message dated 24/06/2011 13:47:52 GMT Daylight Time, > greenkirsty1@... writes:> > > > > > I had a lengthy conversation with today and the diatom from > www.diatom.co.uk is absolutely fine. > Cannot speak for other companies but there is no problems with this brand > at all. I have started Sam on 1/2 tsp a day> > > Kirsty> x> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 25, 2011 Report Share Posted June 25, 2011 Yes.. because if the gut has been inflamed for a while you end up with the equivalent of limescale along the colon so the little Vila... the sticky out bits you see in Tripe.. lie flat and become covered with dried out waste.. Short of having colonic hydro therapy for some time, most other things will not address this problem.. I believe that the Diatom does as it breaks down this stuff and lets it pass through the gut. I think that you need to focus on our fears and anxieties .. because this energy will be read really easily by Usman and he will react to this fear and become anxious. I say seize the day and decide that this is a treatment that he needs and that this is the key to making him even better.. and possibly start off on a small amount.. 1 tsp per day.. His body will thank you for it!! Tracey i have been working with jean the nutritioinist we have done alot for the gut i have included lindas advice too. he is able to poop once a day[rem he was seserely constipated fpr two yrs] he is now on the scd and gfcf fully and also gaps diiets but he does have dark eye circles but just dont know what else i can do. the metals in his system have come out mild level but i have been told he has immunotoxic effects. will know beter once results come back next week.but in the meantime i would like to do diatom, just scared as he is prone to increased seizures very easily. do yoiu feel diet , supps and exercises cn still leave toxicity hanging around. To: Autism-Biomedical-Europe Sent: Sat, 25 June, 2011 13:26:57Subject: Re: Re: Diatom On line is best.. they will have it delivered to your door next working day.. I think with the state of Usman's gut that unless you clear his system it will be very difficult for him to begin to really heal and to be able to grow beyond his seizures. Best Wishes Tracey tracey thanks i read all you have said, one thging is that vit e being antioxidant always we notice increase in the number of seizures he has when give this, i wonder how he will cope and react with the h2o2. also i tried calling the diatom contact number there is no answer from both. what is the best time to call them? or is it easy to do online order? thks tahira To: Autism-Biomedical-Europe Sent: Sat, 25 June, 2011 9:30:56 Subject: Re: Re: Diatom Dear Tahira Diatom is inert.. so it should not cause problems when you are using it along side other things.. It may be better to give Diatom am and the other pm so that the body has time to digest it before the colon is cleansed. I buy mine from www.diatomx.co.uk Make sure you buy the human grade one. A clean colon is such a good basis for returning health.. It may be that you might see a little more seizure activity because as the colon works better the body will be able to detox.. on the other hand he may simply adjust to this increased state of health. http://diatomx.co.uk/epages/eshop439661.sf/en_GB/?ObjectPath=/Shops/eshop439661/Categories/%22Diatom%20for%20Humans%22 Hydrogen peroxide is a very powerful antioxidant and oxidiser.. It is a very powerful healer.. and in Africa it is often used instead of antibiotics. When I cut the tip off my finger and it became infected H2O2 cleared the infection in days.. and left no scaring .. so I think it is a very safe and simple healing agent. Best Wishes Tracey It would be good to ensure you are doing TST at full prescription before adding these.. just to allow usman's circulation to be as efficiently as possible. hi tracey, can you give the diatom website which one is the right one. i have spoken to linda today who believes that the use of this alongside h2o2[ hyd peroxide] will be a good initial option for usman to clear his gut further and she talked about the negative charge that is created which helps.the antiviral drugs she was not so sure of as she felt there are natural alternatives. she felt the immune system will have less of the work when the bugs and toxins etc are got rid off. i am not sure what she felt h2o2 would do. i have ordered transfer factors today so not sure if i should try diatom after starting them or before. ok hope you can get back thks tahira To: Autism-Biomedical-Europe Sent: Fri, 24 June, 2011 16:52:21Subject: Re: Re: Diatom Well Margaret there are so many things you can do with it.. you may need that quantity. YOu can sprinkle it around your house to stop the ants invading.. they do not like the sharpness on their little legs and feet You could feed it to all the local farm animals to help rid them of their parasites you could use a handful and add water and use it as an amazing body scrub... and the list goes on.. I have been taking it for about 2 weeks and definite improvement in my skin.. and my eyesight... which I think may link with a detoxing effect by cleansing the colon.. Tree trunk legs have glimmers of shapeliness.. and blotchy bits on legs going too. has a number of young patients with major disabilities and mobility issues and they are taking it and doing well.. For people with inflammatory conditions in the colon, I read this week that the vila in their colons can flatten to reduct surface area to absorb food and with slow motility this creates an almost limescale like lining in the colon.. so this very gentle abrasion cleanses as it passes along.. and no one has noticed and corrosive effects from taking it. Best Wishes Tracey It would be interesting to hear how you get on with it. I assume you are not starting with the 900kg size? (grin)Margaret >> I will getting some of this brand to use on me and Sam also > > Mandi x> > > In a message dated 24/06/2011 13:47:52 GMT Daylight Time, > greenkirsty1@... writes:> > > > > > I had a lengthy conversation with today and the diatom from > www.diatom.co.uk is absolutely fine. > Cannot speak for other companies but there is no problems with this brand > at all. I have started Sam on 1/2 tsp a day> > > Kirsty> x> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 25, 2011 Report Share Posted June 25, 2011 the test is urinary poriphins test and has shown some mercury levels so from this i think then chelation for my son not first priority it should be viral issue to check first. a doctor ha s recently said he feels he is immuno toxic but i am not sure of the implications of being immunotoxic and how it can be picked up. To: Autism-Biomedical-Europe Sent: Sat, 25 June, 2011 17:10:13Subject: Re: Re: Diatom the metals in his system have come out mild level but i have been told >>What sort of test was this? .. do yoiu feel diet , supps and exercises cn still leave toxicity hanging around >>If he has Mercury in his brain then yes IMHO Mandi x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 26, 2011 Report Share Posted June 26, 2011 thanks nevin for the advice. i find the enema would be simply v difficult with usman . i am thinking of diatom for colomn clearing but i do feel he has tried so much the oxypowder already. i know he has had so many problem s of constipation so now that the constipation is much better i want to improve immunity and see what is going on in the iommune system but how do i do that and who can i trust to help me discover whats wrong in the immune system and what the best coorrrective intervention would be in a child with easily sparke d s eizures. i just seems tricky. would you say i should try the transfer factors i have or do gut colon work with diatom first? To: Autism-Biomedical-Europe Sent: Sun, 26 June, 2011 10:41:23Subject: Re: Diatom Tahira,The nutri centre clinic takes children and I know of one in Manchester that does too.Also you can buy a home kit from www. Detoxyourworld.comKirstyX> > >> > > the test is urinary poriphins test and has shown some mercury levels so > > > from this i think then chelation for my son not first priority  it > > > should be  viral issue to check first. a doctor ha s recently said he > > > feels he is immuno toxic but i am not sure of the implications of being > > > immunotoxic and how it can be picked up.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________> > > From: "Mum231ASD@" <Mum231ASD@>> > > To: Autism-Biomedical-Europe > > > Sent: Sat, 25 June, 2011 17:10:13> > > Subject: Re: Re: Diatom> > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 25/06/2011 13:45:20 GMT Daylight Time, tahirasufi@ > > > writes:> > > the metals in his  system have come out mild level but i have been told > > > >>What sort of test was this?> > > > > > . do yoiu feel diet , supps and exercises cn still leave toxicity hanging > > > around> > > >>If he has Mercury in his brain then yes IMHO> > > > > > Mandi x> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 26, 2011 Report Share Posted June 26, 2011 i have ordered the transfer factors which are high quality should i add these to for immunity boosting along with diatom. i also have olive leaf and echinicea which i felt may help with the viruses. To: Autism-Biomedical-Europe Sent: Sun, 26 June, 2011 7:24:49Subject: Re: Re: Diatom Hi Tahira I would begin the Diatom... and only make this change.. and monitor how he goes... a less toxic gut will provide the means for better assimilation and elimination of foods.. TST improving oxygenation will help clear viral loads ... I think the next thing I would look at would be the H2O2 to work on the residual viruses and bacteria in the colon.. and then notice how he is.. this may give a better indication of what the next best steps would be with him,. Tracey the test is urinary poriphins test and has shown some mercury levels so from this i think then chelation for my son not first priority it should be viral issue to check first. a doctor ha s recently said he feels he is immuno toxic but i am not sure of the implications of being immunotoxic and how it can be picked up. To: Autism-Biomedical-Europe Sent: Sat, 25 June, 2011 17:10:13Subject: Re: Re: Diatom the metals in his system have come out mild level but i have been told >>What sort of test was this? .. do yoiu feel diet , supps and exercises cn still leave toxicity hanging around >>If he has Mercury in his brain then yes IMHO Mandi x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 26, 2011 Report Share Posted June 26, 2011 I would speak to .. If it were my child I would only do Diatom for a couple of weeks and then decide which single additional thing to do.. It is so easy to want to do everything at once.. however this can be a waste of money as you cannot evaluate the individual treatments.. and can not clearly identify what may be causing the reactions.. or improvements. Tracey i have ordered the transfer factors which are high quality should i add these to for immunity boosting along with diatom. i also have olive leaf and echinicea which i felt may help with the viruses. To: Autism-Biomedical-Europe Sent: Sun, 26 June, 2011 7:24:49Subject: Re: Re: Diatom Hi Tahira I would begin the Diatom... and only make this change.. and monitor how he goes... a less toxic gut will provide the means for better assimilation and elimination of foods.. TST improving oxygenation will help clear viral loads ... I think the next thing I would look at would be the H2O2 to work on the residual viruses and bacteria in the colon.. and then notice how he is.. this may give a better indication of what the next best steps would be with him,. Tracey the test is urinary poriphins test and has shown some mercury levels so from this i think then chelation for my son not first priority it should be viral issue to check first. a doctor ha s recently said he feels he is immuno toxic but i am not sure of the implications of being immunotoxic and how it can be picked up. To: Autism-Biomedical-Europe Sent: Sat, 25 June, 2011 17:10:13 Subject: Re: Re: Diatom the metals in his system have come out mild level but i have been told >>What sort of test was this? .. do yoiu feel diet , supps and exercises cn still leave toxicity hanging around >>If he has Mercury in his brain then yes IMHO Mandi x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 26, 2011 Report Share Posted June 26, 2011 You don;t get rid of virus as far as I know, HIV being an example but you can dampen it, there is another word, Natasa knows a lot about this sort of thing Mandi x but one thing i haerd which confuses me is that you need to get rid of the driver for neurological impairment then you can add things to support detoxification. so for eg if there is a virus detected then you need to address getting rid of that then only do u support detox pathways. it just means all the methylation and sulphation i have done should ideally be carried out after antiviral given. To: Autism-Biomedical-Europe Sent: Sun, 26 June, 2011 17:01:02Subject: Re: Re: Diatom Dear Nevin Eliminating foods that are not good.. is actually a very healing thing to do.. in taking the stresses off the body it can begin to focus on the healing and detoxing rather than having to use loads of energy to deal with inflammatory effects of allergens.. and in itself can be a big boost to the immune system.. This is basically the approach that we used with Tash.. and she is so healthy.. Best Wishes Tracey I think clearing the gut should be the priority.How can you build up immunosystem if gut has totally blocked, lots of layers of other stuff perhaps like parasities, bacterias..The problem is the condition for prone the seizures what ever you do.Detoxing slowly could be an answer,slow persistent giving the stuff perhaps may work in a long term and it won't effect much the seizure condition...I don't know...I am in the same situation like you.But I liked the book called 'The Myth of Autism' DrGoldberg approach.I think one doctor attended the recent conference and the subject was immunology.I hope somebody can give us a short summary of his speech.I've forgotten his name but this was the one DrGoldberg was highly valueing his expertise in his book.DrGoldberg says, the first step to strength the immunesystem is ;take all the negatives, because they effect the superactive GI tracts.WE've done an blood Allergy test, 9 food items,my son showed extreme sensitivity,egg and milk were on the top.So, I withdrew all of them.The interesting thing is he showed high sensitivity whatever he showed in the past, nothing healed in the past few years..On top of that, he developed more sensitivity that I was giving him everyday such as pear and pineapple.So, I am trying not to load more stress on his sytem, this is not the real treatment but just preventing things getting much worst.nevin> > > >> > > > the test is urinary poriphins test and has shown some mercury > >levels so > >> > > > from this i think then chelation for my son not first > >priority  it > >> > > > should be  viral issue to check first. a doctor ha s > >recently said he > >> > > > feels he is immuno toxic but i am not sure of the implications > >of being > >> > > > immunotoxic and how it can be picked up.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________> > > > From: "Mum231ASD@" <Mum231ASD@>> > > > To: Autism-Biomedical-Europe > > > > Sent: Sat, 25 June, 2011 17:10:13> > > > Subject: Re: Re: Diatom> > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 25/06/2011 13:45:20 GMT Daylight Time, tahirasufi@ > > > > writes:> > > > the metals in his  system have come out mild level but i > >have been told > >> > > > >>What sort of test was this?> > > > > > > > . do yoiu feel diet , supps and exercises cn still leave toxicity > >hanging > >> > > > around> > > > >>If he has Mercury in his brain then yes IMHO> > > > > > > > Mandi x> > > >> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 26, 2011 Report Share Posted June 26, 2011 but one thing i haerd which confuses me is that you need to get rid of the driver for neurological impairment then you can add things to support detoxification. so for eg if there is a virus detected then you need to address getting rid of that then only do u support detox pathways. it just means all the methylation and sulphation i have done should ideally be carried out after antiviral given. To: Autism-Biomedical-Europe Sent: Sun, 26 June, 2011 17:01:02Subject: Re: Re: Diatom Dear Nevin Eliminating foods that are not good.. is actually a very healing thing to do.. in taking the stresses off the body it can begin to focus on the healing and detoxing rather than having to use loads of energy to deal with inflammatory effects of allergens.. and in itself can be a big boost to the immune system.. This is basically the approach that we used with Tash.. and she is so healthy.. Best Wishes Tracey I think clearing the gut should be the priority.How can you build up immunosystem if gut has totally blocked, lots of layers of other stuff perhaps like parasities, bacterias..The problem is the condition for prone the seizures what ever you do.Detoxing slowly could be an answer,slow persistent giving the stuff perhaps may work in a long term and it won't effect much the seizure condition...I don't know...I am in the same situation like you.But I liked the book called 'The Myth of Autism' DrGoldberg approach.I think one doctor attended the recent conference and the subject was immunology.I hope somebody can give us a short summary of his speech.I've forgotten his name but this was the one DrGoldberg was highly valueing his expertise in his book.DrGoldberg says, the first step to strength the immunesystem is ;take all the negatives, because they effect the superactive GI tracts.WE've done an blood Allergy test, 9 food items,my son showed extreme sensitivity,egg and milk were on the top.So, I withdrew all of them.The interesting thing is he showed high sensitivity whatever he showed in the past, nothing healed in the past few years..On top of that, he developed more sensitivity that I was giving him everyday such as pear and pineapple.So, I am trying not to load more stress on his sytem, this is not the real treatment but just preventing things getting much worst.nevin> > > >> > > > the test is urinary poriphins test and has shown some mercury > >levels so > >> > > > from this i think then chelation for my son not first > >priority  it > >> > > > should be  viral issue to check first. a doctor ha s > >recently said he > >> > > > feels he is immuno toxic but i am not sure of the implications > >of being > >> > > > immunotoxic and how it can be picked up.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________> > > > From: "Mum231ASD@" <Mum231ASD@>> > > > To: Autism-Biomedical-Europe > > > > Sent: Sat, 25 June, 2011 17:10:13> > > > Subject: Re: Re: Diatom> > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 25/06/2011 13:45:20 GMT Daylight Time, tahirasufi@ > > > > writes:> > > > the metals in his  system have come out mild level but i > >have been told > >> > > > >>What sort of test was this?> > > > > > > > . do yoiu feel diet , supps and exercises cn still leave toxicity > >hanging > >> > > > around> > > > >>If he has Mercury in his brain then yes IMHO> > > > > > > > Mandi x> > > >> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 26, 2011 Report Share Posted June 26, 2011 until you have a good and constant source of oxygenation to the brain.. any removal of a virus and the ability to keep the brain virus free cannot happen... In seizures chemical imbalances with incomplete digestion can contribute to seizure activity.. and poor digestion happens with a colon which is full of gunk.. So to my mind.... TST to get oxygenation levels up and diatom to get colon cleansed and then the body is a healthy system to be able to address some of the deficit on its own as it is a self healing mechanism... then and only then is the body able to grow and develop Tracey but one thing i haerd which confuses me is that you need to get rid of the driver for neurological impairment then you can add things to support detoxification. so for eg if there is a virus detected then you need to address getting rid of that then only do u support detox pathways. it just means all the methylation and sulphation i have done should ideally be carried out after antiviral given. To: Autism-Biomedical-Europe Sent: Sun, 26 June, 2011 17:01:02Subject: Re: Re: Diatom Dear Nevin Eliminating foods that are not good.. is actually a very healing thing to do.. in taking the stresses off the body it can begin to focus on the healing and detoxing rather than having to use loads of energy to deal with inflammatory effects of allergens.. and in itself can be a big boost to the immune system.. This is basically the approach that we used with Tash.. and she is so healthy.. Best Wishes Tracey I think clearing the gut should be the priority.How can you build up immunosystem if gut has totally blocked, lots of layers of other stuff perhaps like parasities, bacterias..The problem is the condition for prone the seizures what ever you do.Detoxing slowly could be an answer,slow persistent giving the stuff perhaps may work in a long term and it won't effect much the seizure condition...I don't know...I am in the same situation like you.But I liked the book called 'The Myth of Autism' DrGoldberg approach.I think one doctor attended the recent conference and the subject was immunology.I hope somebody can give us a short summary of his speech.I've forgotten his name but this was the one DrGoldberg was highly valueing his expertise in his book.DrGoldberg says, the first step to strength the immunesystem is ;take all the negatives, because they effect the superactive GI tracts. WE've done an blood Allergy test, 9 food items,my son showed extreme sensitivity,egg and milk were on the top.So, I withdrew all of them.The interesting thing is he showed high sensitivity whatever he showed in the past, nothing healed in the past few years..On top of that, he developed more sensitivity that I was giving him everyday such as pear and pineapple.So, I am trying not to load more stress on his sytem, this is not the real treatment but just preventing things getting much worst. nevin> > > >> > > > the test is urinary poriphins test and has shown some mercury > >levels so > >> > > > from this i think then chelation for my son not first > >priority  it > >> > > > should be  viral issue to check first. a doctor ha s > >recently said he > >> > > > feels he is immuno toxic but i am not sure of the implications > >of being > >> > > > immunotoxic and how it can be picked up.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________> > > > From: " Mum231ASD@ " <Mum231ASD@> > > > > To: Autism-Biomedical-Europe > > > > Sent: Sat, 25 June, 2011 17:10:13> > > > Subject: Re: Re: Diatom > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 25/06/2011 13:45:20 GMT Daylight Time, tahirasufi@ > > > > writes: > > > > the metals in his  system have come out mild level but i > >have been told > >> > > > >>What sort of test was this?> > > > > > > > . do yoiu feel diet , supps and exercises cn still leave toxicity > >hanging > >> > > > around> > > > >>If he has Mercury in his brain then yes IMHO> > > > > > > > Mandi x> > > > > > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 16, 2011 Report Share Posted July 16, 2011 It's not a chelating agent Mandi x And what about the idea of it being a chelating agent- something i thought that should be avoided unless using ala etc under AC protocol? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 16, 2011 Report Share Posted July 16, 2011 Yes and if you heard on RFA ignore it Mani x Thanks for reply -and yours Mandi. Had read it absorbs mercury - maybe that would be mercury circulating in the system anyway, not in an organ? Janet To: Autism-Biomedical-Europe From: thelifechangers@...Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2011 22:37:06 +0100Subject: Re: Re: Diatom Dear Janet I have not heard that it has to be short term only.. and I think that initially I would stick on it for at least a couple of months and then see. I know nothing about chelation.. I think that there is a big difference between detoxing and chelation. I have not heard anything about it being chelation agent.. I would only surmise that with a cleaner colon and a larger less toxic surface area, that the body and the cells there in are more able to detox.. which may include heavy metals.. Best Wishes Tracey PS It is worth noting that in Zimbabwe we used to use Diatomaceous Earth in the sand filters in our pools as it was such a good cleanser of microtoxins from the water.. and we lived most of our summer holidays in the pool.. with no ill effects.. Thanks for the extra information Tracey. Can it be used safely long-term for children then do you know- or is more to clear the colon initially? And what about the idea of it being a chelating agent- something i thought that should be avoided unless using ala etc under AC protocol? Janet To: Autism-Biomedical-Europe From: thelifechangers@...Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2011 21:49:22 +0100Subject: Re: Re: Diatom Hi Janet It is an inert substance, so it only detoxes by clearing the colon and allowing more silica into the body.. an element which I think we are deficient in. Yes it is abrasive, however it is less abrasive than say nuts or corn flakes or any other food like that. I know that someone incorrectly presumed that since it has silica in it and silica is the base ingredient for glass, that it was the same thing.. This is not the case. I can only recommend it because Scotson has been using it with many of her patients and they, such as the Cerebral Palsy children can have even more complex health needs than many of the ASD kids and she is finding that they are doing well. better health as it helps to clear the hardened excrement which can slake and line the colon and form almost like a limescale effect on the colon. If following a twisted bowel and major colonic surgery is able to cope with the DE, and she has a very very sensitive colon anyway, I think that I am comfortable using it. If in doubt start off slow and then build up as you are aware it is being tolerated. I have been taking it for a month now and my skin is better than ever and I am sleeping much better too.. I think it is far less of a risk than chemical things such as movicol and many of the other pharma things.. Tracey Hi, Have been looking at Diatom since Tracey suggested it but am wary of trying it out because 1. isn't it abrasive on the colon?and 2. believe it acts as a chelator. Do you know anymore? The benefits of it sound great though - but not sure about it especially for long-term use. Janet To: Autism-Biomedical-Europe From: greenkirsty1@...Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 09:28:57 +0000Subject: Re: Diatom I don't think it matters when you give it. Sam has 1 tsp in his lunch. He is currently going to the loo about 3 times a day now. We love it in our house. Gives stomach cramps at first but you get over it. No need for any other laxative etc hereKirstyx>> I am hoping to start Harry on Diatom this week at a starting dose of half a teaspoon. Does anyone know when its best to give? Before or after breakfast? > > Kerryx> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 16, 2011 Report Share Posted July 16, 2011 Hi,Have been looking at Diatom since Tracey suggested it but am wary of trying it out because 1. isn't it abrasive on the colon?and 2. believe it acts as a chelator. Do you know anymore? The benefits of it sound great though - but not sure about it especially for long-term use.JanetTo: Autism-Biomedical-Europe From: greenkirsty1@...Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 09:28:57 +0000Subject: Re: Diatom I don't think it matters when you give it. Sam has 1 tsp in his lunch. He is currently going to the loo about 3 times a day now. We love it in our house. Gives stomach cramps at first but you get over it. No need for any other laxative etc here Kirsty x > > I am hoping to start Harry on Diatom this week at a starting dose of half a teaspoon. Does anyone know when its best to give? Before or after breakfast? > > Kerryx > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 16, 2011 Report Share Posted July 16, 2011 Hi JanetIt is an inert substance, so it only detoxes by clearing the colon and allowing more silica into the body.. an element which I think we are deficient in. Yes it is abrasive, however it is less abrasive than say nuts or corn flakes or any other food like that. I know that someone incorrectly presumed that since it has silica in it and silica is the base ingredient for glass, that it was the same thing.. This is not the case. I can only recommend it because Scotson has been using it with many of her patients and they, such as the Cerebral Palsy children can have even more complex health needs than many of the ASD kids and she is finding that they are doing well. better health as it helps to clear the hardened excrement which can slake and line the colon and form almost like a limescale effect on the colon. If following a twisted bowel and major colonic surgery is able to cope with the DE, and she has a very very sensitive colon anyway, I think that I am comfortable using it. If in doubt start off slow and then build up as you are aware it is being tolerated.I have been taking it for a month now and my skin is better than ever and I am sleeping much better too.. I think it is far less of a risk than chemical things such as movicol and many of the other pharma things.. Tracey Hi,Have been looking at Diatom since Tracey suggested it but am wary of trying it out because 1. isn't it abrasive on the colon?and 2. believe it acts as a chelator. Do you know anymore? The benefits of it sound great though - but not sure about it especially for long-term use. JanetTo: Autism-Biomedical-Europe From: greenkirsty1@... Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 09:28:57 +0000Subject: Re: Diatom I don't think it matters when you give it. Sam has 1 tsp in his lunch. He is currently going to the loo about 3 times a day now. We love it in our house. Gives stomach cramps at first but you get over it. No need for any other laxative etc here Kirsty x > > I am hoping to start Harry on Diatom this week at a starting dose of half a teaspoon. Does anyone know when its best to give? Before or after breakfast? > > Kerryx > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 16, 2011 Report Share Posted July 16, 2011 Dear JanetI have not heard that it has to be short term only.. and I think that initially I would stick on it for at least a couple of months and then see. I know nothing about chelation.. I think that there is a big difference between detoxing and chelation. I have not heard anything about it being chelation agent.. I would only surmise that with a cleaner colon and a larger less toxic surface area, that the body and the cells there in are more able to detox.. which may include heavy metals. Best WishesTraceyPS It is worth noting that in Zimbabwe we used to use Diatomaceous Earth in the sand filters in our pools as it was such a good cleanser of microtoxins from the water.. and we lived most of our summer holidays in the pool.. with no ill effects.. Thanks for the extra information Tracey. Can it be used safely long-term for children then do you know- or is more to clear the colon initially? And what about the idea of it being a chelating agent- something i thought that should be avoided unless using ala etc under AC protocol? JanetTo: Autism-Biomedical-Europe From: thelifechangers@... Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2011 21:49:22 +0100Subject: Re: Re: Diatom Hi JanetIt is an inert substance, so it only detoxes by clearing the colon and allowing more silica into the body.. an element which I think we are deficient in. Yes it is abrasive, however it is less abrasive than say nuts or corn flakes or any other food like that. I know that someone incorrectly presumed that since it has silica in it and silica is the base ingredient for glass, that it was the same thing.. This is not the case. I can only recommend it because Scotson has been using it with many of her patients and they, such as the Cerebral Palsy children can have even more complex health needs than many of the ASD kids and she is finding that they are doing well. better health as it helps to clear the hardened excrement which can slake and line the colon and form almost like a limescale effect on the colon. If following a twisted bowel and major colonic surgery is able to cope with the DE, and she has a very very sensitive colon anyway, I think that I am comfortable using it. If in doubt start off slow and then build up as you are aware it is being tolerated.I have been taking it for a month now and my skin is better than ever and I am sleeping much better too.. I think it is far less of a risk than chemical things such as movicol and many of the other pharma things.. Tracey Hi,Have been looking at Diatom since Tracey suggested it but am wary of trying it out because 1. isn't it abrasive on the colon?and 2. believe it acts as a chelator. Do you know anymore? The benefits of it sound great though - but not sure about it especially for long-term use. JanetTo: Autism-Biomedical-Europe From: greenkirsty1@... Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 09:28:57 +0000Subject: Re: Diatom I don't think it matters when you give it. Sam has 1 tsp in his lunch. He is currently going to the loo about 3 times a day now. We love it in our house. Gives stomach cramps at first but you get over it. No need for any other laxative etc here Kirsty x > > I am hoping to start Harry on Diatom this week at a starting dose of half a teaspoon. Does anyone know when its best to give? Before or after breakfast? > > Kerryx > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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