Re: Picle jar versus Pyrex bowl

[Guest guest]

Hi Audrey,

I brew my KT in pickle jars and before use I washed them three times

with very hot water (no soap).

(in Belgium)

2006/7/18, Audrey :

> I want to pose some questions concerning using a pickle jar versus a

> bowl for results. I have an assortment size set of the bowls, but have

> been trying it with pickle jars mainly and other size jars. I am

> asking because of the air ratio I've read about, depth versus

> width...and also I wash the jars in the dishwasher, but wonder if a

> extra rinse cycle is required to purify from pickles, or boiling on

> stove

[Guest guest]

>

> I want to pose some questions concerning using a pickle jar versus a

> bowl for results. I have an assortment size set of the bowls, but have

> been trying it with pickle jars mainly and other size jars. I am

> asking because of the air ratio I've read about, depth versus

> width...and also I wash the jars in the dishwasher, but wonder if a

> extra rinse cycle is required to purify from pickles, or boiling on

> stove...I cannot afford several bowls yet, and want to make sure I am

> doing things the best way, as I can here. I keep getting mostly ugly

> scobies, and wonder about the green / black ratio also.

> -Audrey

Hi There:

Absolutely use glass bowls and not jars. The new developing kombucha

baby needs all the oxygen it can get. If you use jars, your finished

kombucha, tea, most likely, will not contain the so important

GLUCURONIC ACID.

This information is based on the many fermentation experiments I

conducted and verified by lab tests.

Happy brewing

Benno.

[Guest guest]

So a cylindrical vessel doesn't give good KT? I am using an Anchor hocking

gallon size glass jar. It is basically a large cookie jar. It is not

exactly like a pickle jar. Since it does not have a screw on lid the

opening is just about as wide as the jar itself. Is that still not good

enough? They are 7 1/2 inches high although the liquid goes to about 6 1/2

inches. And 7 inches in diameter although the opening itself is about 6 1/2

inches. They are really nice for brewing and have a good lip to put a

rubber band around to hold the cloth in place. But if it is not adequate, I

suppose I can switch to bowls.

Thanks,

Irene

At 03:03 PM 7/18/2006, you wrote:

>

> >

> > I want to pose some questions concerning using a pickle jar versus a

> > bowl for results. I have an assortment size set of the bowls, but have

> > been trying it with pickle jars mainly and other size jars. I am

> > asking because of the air ratio I've read about, depth versus

> > width...and also I wash the jars in the dishwasher, but wonder if a

> > extra rinse cycle is required to purify from pickles, or boiling on

> > stove...I cannot afford several bowls yet, and want to make sure I am

> > doing things the best way, as I can here. I keep getting mostly ugly

> > scobies, and wonder about the green / black ratio also.

> > -Audrey

>

>Hi There:

>Absolutely use glass bowls and not jars. The new developing kombucha

>baby needs all the oxygen it can get. If you use jars, your finished

>kombucha, tea, most likely, will not contain the so important

>GLUCURONIC ACID.

>This information is based on the many fermentation experiments I

>conducted and verified by lab tests.

>Happy brewing

>Benno.

>

>

[Guest guest]

Please Benno,

Could you send on the list the results of the lab tests for KT brewed

in a jar vs. KT brewed in a bowl? This would be really interesting.

Thanks in advance,

(in Belgium)

2006/7/19, Benno Sternig :

> Absolutely use glass bowls and not jars. The new developing kombucha

> baby needs all the oxygen it can get. If you use jars, your finished

> kombucha, tea, most likely, will not contain the so important

> GLUCURONIC ACID.

> This information is based on the many fermentation experiments I

> conducted and verified by lab tests.

> Happy brewing

> Benno.

[Guest guest]

In message you wrote:

> This is the first I've read about the need to use glass bowls to ferment

> rather than glass jars! I thought I'd been making and drinking kt the

> proper way.

Robin, rest assured, your brewing method is fine. As long as it is

ordinary (unleaded) glass, pyrex included, it doesn't matter what

shape the vessel is. It's just, that wider bowls ferment faster.

I brew in a row of different volume (2 - 5 litres) ex-pickled-onion

and sweets jars and even some large plain glass vases.

There is no problem.

So, Robin, you HAVE been making your KT the PROPER way!

Blessings,

Margret:-))

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[Guest guest]

In message you wrote:

> So a cylindrical vessel doesn't give good KT? I am using an Anchor hocking

> gallon size glass jar. It is basically a large cookie jar. It is not

> exactly like a pickle jar. Since it does not have a screw on lid the

> opening is just about as wide as the jar itself. Is that still not good

> enough? They are 7 1/2 inches high although the liquid goes to about 6 1/2

> inches. And 7 inches in diameter although the opening itself is about 6 1/2

> inches. They are really nice for brewing ...

Irene, This sounds a perfect brewing container to me!

Blessings,

Margret:-)

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[Guest guest]

Okay-that's good news! Thanks Margaret.

Robin

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Robin, rest assured, your brewing method is fine. As long as it is

ordinary (unleaded) glass, pyrex included, it doesn't matter what

shape the vessel is. It's just, that wider bowls ferment faster.

Blessings,

Margret:-))

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[Guest guest]

I have been waiting for him to get those crocks in and finally got mine last

week.

It seems to be very nice and I am excited about doing continuous

fermentation. Seems it would take a little less time plus all the added

benefits. I think the price is very reasonable as well.

jMO

Allyn

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From: original_kombucha

[mailto:original_kombucha ] On Behalf Of Audrey

Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2006 12:52 PM

To: original_kombucha

Subject: Re: Picle jar versus Pyrex bowl

Hey Robin,

I wish I could get the keg, but am wanting to know where you got

the pickle jar (seriouly) I posted two bowl sites, Pryex

http://shopworldkit <http://shopworldkitchen.com/index.asp?>

chen.com/index.asp?

pageID=105 & recType=catID & recID=19 & prodID=1004 & brandID=2

and aroco mixing bowls-France (having trouble finding). But am going

to use the jars until I can afford nicer.

I can post a few sites soon for swing top type bottles a a few

sources.

-Audrey

The happy herbalist has a nice crock lead free with plastic spigot,

http://www.happyher

<http://www.happyherbalist.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD & ProdID=90>

balist.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD & ProdID=90

2 1/2 Gallon Porclein Brewer

Ceramic Brew Master 10 liters

Plus

The Glass with plastic spigot- fusion Jars

http://www.infusion <http://www.infusionjars.com/> jars.com/

Also; Harmonic Health has a lead free crock/wood spigot

http://www.harmonic

<http://www.harmonic-health.com/kombucha_fermentation.php>

-health.com/kombucha_fermentation.php

All our jars are lead free.Harmonic Health supplies three sizes of

jars, hand made in the UK with an attractive ceramic design. The

jars are fired with a top quality acid resistant lead free glaze,

making them ideal for Kombucha brewing.

They come together with a stylish wooden tap used in the cider

industry, material cover with elastic tie and a complete guide to

Continuous Fermentation Brewing by Harald Tietze. The jars are

individually numbered and registered with their own unique

Certificate of Authenticity, which may be of interest to collectors.

115 pounds sterling = approx. $195

85 pounds sterling = approx. $145

60 Pounds sterling = approx. $102

Carriage in addition is approx.

Large CF1 90 pounds sterling = $153

Medium CF2 70 pounds sterling = $119

Small CF3 50 pounds sterling = $85

If you wish to order please 'phone +44 20 8881 9106 or email details

to info@harmonic- <mailto:info%40harmonic-health.com> health.com

With regards

Harmonic Health

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> I have an old, 1 gallon capacity pickle jar with a handle I've

been using to brew the kt. I put a coffee filter over it and hold

the filter w/a hair band as I'm allergic to latex and don't use

rubber bands....

and I can't afford to spend $89 on a wood keg.

> Robin

> *******

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Irene,

I have been using the two gallon Anchor Hocking Glass Jar since 1994.

It works just fine:-))

Continue to enjoy your Kombucha!

Peace, Love and Harmony,

Bev

-- In original_kombucha , Irene.M@... wrote:

>

> So a cylindrical vessel doesn't give good KT? I am using an Anchor

hocking

> gallon size glass jar. It is basically a large cookie jar. It is not

> exactly like a pickle jar. Since it does not have a screw on lid the

> opening is just about as wide as the jar itself. Is that still not good

> enough? They are 7 1/2 inches high although the liquid goes to about

6 1/2

> inches. And 7 inches in diameter although the opening itself is

about 6 1/2

> inches. They are really nice for brewing and have a good lip to put a

> rubber band around to hold the cloth in place. But if it is not

adequate, I

> suppose I can switch to bowls.

>

> Thanks,

> Irene

>

>

> At 03:03 PM 7/18/2006, you wrote:

>

> >

> > >

> > > I want to pose some questions concerning using a pickle jar versus a

> > > bowl for results. I have an assortment size set of the bowls,

but have

> > > been trying it with pickle jars mainly and other size jars. I am

> > > asking because of the air ratio I've read about, depth versus

> > > width...and also I wash the jars in the dishwasher, but wonder if a

> > > extra rinse cycle is required to purify from pickles, or boiling on

> > > stove...I cannot afford several bowls yet, and want to make sure

I am

> > > doing things the best way, as I can here. I keep getting mostly ugly

> > > scobies, and wonder about the green / black ratio also.

> > > -Audrey

> >

> >Hi There:

> >Absolutely use glass bowls and not jars. The new developing kombucha

> >baby needs all the oxygen it can get. If you use jars, your finished

> >kombucha, tea, most likely, will not contain the so important

> >GLUCURONIC ACID.

> >This information is based on the many fermentation experiments I

> >conducted and verified by lab tests.

> >Happy brewing

> >Benno.

> >

> >

>

>

>