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your recent proclaimations on this list seem to

indicate that you believe any Bacteria or any Yeasts (the B

and Y, of SCOBY) would be OK as " the " culture. If that where

true that most everything falls into your defination of

SCOBY.

How the culture works is not a mystery at all. it is one of

the most investigated phemona in this world (fermentation).

The only debate is really a give and take on how to do it

better or tweak it more towards ones own desires.

What is in the culture is also not debated. It has been

largely accepted as encompassing a very broad range. But

with very specific bacteria and yeasts (the B and Y, of

SCOBY) that have been found in all kombucha ferments.

IMO, one has to define the the B and Y, of the SCOBY.

otherwise if any B or any Y is acceptable than any ferment

that produces a zooglial mat may be difined as a SCOBY

Ed Kasper LAc. Licensed Acupuncturist & Herbalist

www.HappyHerbalist.com Santa Cruz, CA.

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12. Re: " wild " SCOBYs

Posted by: " Baker " vbaker@... vbaker555

Date: Fri Aug 11, 2006 1:06 pm (PDT)

>Apparently I have done something wrong here. It's very

possible

>since I am new. But I'm confused about the basis of your

>complaint against my use of " SCOBY " . I know what the

acronym

>stands for (BTW, might wanna check your own translation),

but I'm

>not sure I completely understand my misuse of it.

I thought Bev was pretty clear, and I'm sorry that you feel

offended by her

request. The term " SCOBY " was coined on this list to refer

to the solid

portion of the kombucha colony. Bev was asking that this

term not be

enlarged to include non-KT zooglial mats because it is

confusing. (and btw

the " C " in the acronym does get translated variously as

culture, colony,

and community)

There are other zooglial mats in the world, yes. We reserve

the term SCOBY

for kombucha. We define kombucha here as being made with

the culture,

tea, and sugar.

Exactly what the culture is and exactly how it works is a

matter of debate

and mystery. But when we speak here of the culture and

SCOBY we do mean

the tea, sugar, and culture that is kombucha.

hth

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