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Try L-Theanine, also known as Theanine to remove anxiety. It works

wonders for some. It is avaiable at GNC and other places.

--- IWorks wonders for somen mb12 valtrex , " Sally "

wrote:

>

> Stan, Does MB12 do anything for anxiety alone? My 10 yr. old

nephew

> had anxiety set in about two months ago. Prior to this he was

> a " normal " , happy kid. His life is really miserable right now. He

> worries that chemicals in the environment (even 409)will hurt him.

> When his mind starts in on this, he gets frustrated that he

> can't " turn it off " and works himself into a crying frenzy. My

> brother said these spells come on quickly and then once they're

over,

> he is just spent and sleepy. He's managing OK when he's busy with

> school or sports, but down time at home is when he has trouble.

>

> He's seeing a psychiatrist and trying Prozac and some other med.

> because the symptoms are so bad. I'm not sure when anxiety turns

into

> OCD, but he also needs to wash his hands all the time...to the

point

> that they are cracked and bleeding.

>

> If you recommend trying this, can you give me any details on the

> biology of MB12 that you would use to justify a request for a

> prescription from the doc? (Other than you saw this web site...)

>

> Thanks for all you do to help others. Hope you're feeling better.

>

> Sally

>

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5HTP can also help with anxiety. This does sound like OCD to me

though. My son has gone through phases of severe OCD symptoms (I now

think it's due to strep in his gut - has your brother considered a

stool analysis and a throat culture for your nephew?). We've used IP6

(inositol hexaphosphate - you need lots more myo-inositol) to treat

OCD symptoms - 1500 mg/day. We use Jarrow brand.

> >

> > Stan, Does MB12 do anything for anxiety alone? My 10 yr. old

> nephew

> > had anxiety set in about two months ago. Prior to this he was

> > a " normal " , happy kid. His life is really miserable right now. He

> > worries that chemicals in the environment (even 409)will hurt him.

> > When his mind starts in on this, he gets frustrated that he

> > can't " turn it off " and works himself into a crying frenzy. My

> > brother said these spells come on quickly and then once they're

> over,

> > he is just spent and sleepy. He's managing OK when he's busy with

> > school or sports, but down time at home is when he has trouble.

> >

> > He's seeing a psychiatrist and trying Prozac and some other med.

> > because the symptoms are so bad. I'm not sure when anxiety turns

> into

> > OCD, but he also needs to wash his hands all the time...to the

> point

> > that they are cracked and bleeding.

> >

> > If you recommend trying this, can you give me any details on the

> > biology of MB12 that you would use to justify a request for a

> > prescription from the doc? (Other than you saw this web site...)

> >

> > Thanks for all you do to help others. Hope you're feeling better.

> >

> > Sally

> >

>

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If you watch the MB12 videos on my video site www.recoveryvideos.com the one

thing

every one of them have in common is a reduction in anxiety. If you are

methylation

impaired or MB12 deficient, it seems there is an anxiety connection.

I would do a trial of MB12 for anxiety. Watch some of the videos and see for

yourself.

We also have a case of OCD and MB12 on video. It's called " Two Sisters. "

Now OCD can be caused by many things, so MB12 is not a cure all for OCD, but it

is worth

a shot and if your child ever had strep, especially around the onset of the OCD

you should

do a strep panel and a PANDAS test. PANDAS is documented to cause OCD in

certain

cases.

In summary:

I would try MB12 (a strong suggestion)

I would get a strep and PANDAS test

I would consider getting a complete viral panel from Immunoscience

.... and I would probably to an OATS or MAP test too. There is something going

on and you

should do some testing to see what you can find out. I would not just treat the

symptoms,

I would go all out and try to find the underlying cause and then try to get off

the meds

asap.

That's what I would do for my child.

- Stan

>

> Stan, Does MB12 do anything for anxiety alone? My 10 yr. old nephew

> had anxiety set in about two months ago. Prior to this he was

> a " normal " , happy kid. His life is really miserable right now. He

> worries that chemicals in the environment (even 409)will hurt him.

> When his mind starts in on this, he gets frustrated that he

> can't " turn it off " and works himself into a crying frenzy. My

> brother said these spells come on quickly and then once they're over,

> he is just spent and sleepy. He's managing OK when he's busy with

> school or sports, but down time at home is when he has trouble.

>

> He's seeing a psychiatrist and trying Prozac and some other med.

> because the symptoms are so bad. I'm not sure when anxiety turns into

> OCD, but he also needs to wash his hands all the time...to the point

> that they are cracked and bleeding.

>

> If you recommend trying this, can you give me any details on the

> biology of MB12 that you would use to justify a request for a

> prescription from the doc? (Other than you saw this web site...)

>

> Thanks for all you do to help others. Hope you're feeling better.

>

> Sally

>

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When I see a need for 5HTP I think that a trial of MB12 should be first, because

5HTP (a

precursor to triptophan) may just be covering up a need for methylation support

like

MB12. You need to methylate triptophan and serotonin and rather than try to

alter the

amounts of it, I personally think we should look at the methylation pathway

since if

triptophan and serotonin may be a problem caused my methylation impairment and

if we

have a methylation impairment we probably are having other chemical problems as

well.

I'm not knocking 5HTP or the suggestion at all...I would just consider ruling

out

methylation first because you might kill several birds with one stone.

Just a thought.

- Stan

> > >

> > > Stan, Does MB12 do anything for anxiety alone? My 10 yr. old

> > nephew

> > > had anxiety set in about two months ago. Prior to this he was

> > > a " normal " , happy kid. His life is really miserable right now. He

> > > worries that chemicals in the environment (even 409)will hurt him.

> > > When his mind starts in on this, he gets frustrated that he

> > > can't " turn it off " and works himself into a crying frenzy. My

> > > brother said these spells come on quickly and then once they're

> > over,

> > > he is just spent and sleepy. He's managing OK when he's busy with

> > > school or sports, but down time at home is when he has trouble.

> > >

> > > He's seeing a psychiatrist and trying Prozac and some other med.

> > > because the symptoms are so bad. I'm not sure when anxiety turns

> > into

> > > OCD, but he also needs to wash his hands all the time...to the

> > point

> > > that they are cracked and bleeding.

> > >

> > > If you recommend trying this, can you give me any details on the

> > > biology of MB12 that you would use to justify a request for a

> > > prescription from the doc? (Other than you saw this web site...)

> > >

> > > Thanks for all you do to help others. Hope you're feeling better.

> > >

> > > Sally

> > >

> >

>

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Stan, I would have to agree with your thoughts. My son started

sleeping much better after several months of the MB-12 shots.

Now I rotate the nasal spray and shots.

- In mb12 valtrex , " Stan Kurtz " wrote:

>

> When I see a need for 5HTP I think that a trial of MB12 should be

first, because 5HTP (a

> precursor to triptophan) may just be covering up a need for

methylation support like

> MB12. You need to methylate triptophan and serotonin and rather

than try to alter the

> amounts of it, I personally think we should look at the methylation

pathway since if

> triptophan and serotonin may be a problem caused my methylation

impairment and if we

> have a methylation impairment we probably are having other chemical

problems as well.

>

> I'm not knocking 5HTP or the suggestion at all...I would just

consider ruling out

> methylation first because you might kill several birds with one

stone.

>

> Just a thought.

>

> - Stan

>

>

> > > >

> > > > Stan, Does MB12 do anything for anxiety alone? My 10 yr.

old

> > > nephew

> > > > had anxiety set in about two months ago. Prior to this he

was

> > > > a " normal " , happy kid. His life is really miserable right

now. He

> > > > worries that chemicals in the environment (even 409)will hurt

him.

> > > > When his mind starts in on this, he gets frustrated that he

> > > > can't " turn it off " and works himself into a crying frenzy.

My

> > > > brother said these spells come on quickly and then once

they're

> > > over,

> > > > he is just spent and sleepy. He's managing OK when he's busy

with

> > > > school or sports, but down time at home is when he has

trouble.

> > > >

> > > > He's seeing a psychiatrist and trying Prozac and some other

med.

> > > > because the symptoms are so bad. I'm not sure when anxiety

turns

> > > into

> > > > OCD, but he also needs to wash his hands all the time...to

the

> > > point

> > > > that they are cracked and bleeding.

> > > >

> > > > If you recommend trying this, can you give me any details on

the

> > > > biology of MB12 that you would use to justify a request for a

> > > > prescription from the doc? (Other than you saw this web

site...)

> > > >

> > > > Thanks for all you do to help others. Hope you're feeling

better.

> > > >

> > > > Sally

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

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Thanks for all the suggestions. I will pass them on. And yes, I've

watched ALL the videos! I was Googling to see if I could figure out

what the tests are that Stan recommended...but I figured others

probably don't know either...so I'll just ask...

What is a PANDAS test? an OATS test? and a MAP test?

This boy has had more ear infections and antibotics than anyone I

know. Could this be related to methylation or B12 issues?

Sally

In mb12 valtrex , " Stan Kurtz " wrote:

>

> If you watch the MB12 videos on my video site

www.recoveryvideos.com the one thing

> every one of them have in common is a reduction in anxiety. If you

are methylation

> impaired or MB12 deficient, it seems there is an anxiety connection.

>

> I would do a trial of MB12 for anxiety. Watch some of the videos

and see for yourself.

>

> We also have a case of OCD and MB12 on video. It's called " Two

Sisters. "

>

> Now OCD can be caused by many things, so MB12 is not a cure all for

OCD, but it is worth

> a shot and if your child ever had strep, especially around the

onset of the OCD you should

> do a strep panel and a PANDAS test. PANDAS is documented to cause

OCD in certain

> cases.

>

> In summary:

>

> I would try MB12 (a strong suggestion)

> I would get a strep and PANDAS test

> I would consider getting a complete viral panel from Immunoscience

>

> ... and I would probably to an OATS or MAP test too. There is

something going on and you

> should do some testing to see what you can find out. I would not

just treat the symptoms,

> I would go all out and try to find the underlying cause and then

try to get off the meds

> asap.

>

> That's what I would do for my child.

>

> - Stan

>

>

>

> >

> > Stan, Does MB12 do anything for anxiety alone? My 10 yr. old

nephew

> > had anxiety set in about two months ago. Prior to this he was

> > a " normal " , happy kid. His life is really miserable right now.

He

> > worries that chemicals in the environment (even 409)will hurt

him.

> > When his mind starts in on this, he gets frustrated that he

> > can't " turn it off " and works himself into a crying frenzy. My

> > brother said these spells come on quickly and then once they're

over,

> > he is just spent and sleepy. He's managing OK when he's busy

with

> > school or sports, but down time at home is when he has trouble.

> >

> > He's seeing a psychiatrist and trying Prozac and some other med.

> > because the symptoms are so bad. I'm not sure when anxiety turns

into

> > OCD, but he also needs to wash his hands all the time...to the

point

> > that they are cracked and bleeding.

> >

> > If you recommend trying this, can you give me any details on the

> > biology of MB12 that you would use to justify a request for a

> > prescription from the doc? (Other than you saw this web site...)

> >

> > Thanks for all you do to help others. Hope you're feeling

better.

> >

> > Sally

> >

>

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It sure could! You would be shocked to know how many chronic viral issues have

to do

with methylation impairment.

It could also be related to metals and a smoldering virus in the gut too.

- An OATS test comes from Great Plains

- a MAP test if from either Doctors Data or Great Smokies... someone help me on

that.

- and a PANDAS test or commonly known as ASO and anti-DNAse B test (if my

somewhat

still impaired memory serves). These are mainstream tests. Talk to your doctor

about it.

- Stan

> > >

> > > Stan, Does MB12 do anything for anxiety alone? My 10 yr. old

> nephew

> > > had anxiety set in about two months ago. Prior to this he was

> > > a " normal " , happy kid. His life is really miserable right now.

> He

> > > worries that chemicals in the environment (even 409)will hurt

> him.

> > > When his mind starts in on this, he gets frustrated that he

> > > can't " turn it off " and works himself into a crying frenzy. My

> > > brother said these spells come on quickly and then once they're

> over,

> > > he is just spent and sleepy. He's managing OK when he's busy

> with

> > > school or sports, but down time at home is when he has trouble.

> > >

> > > He's seeing a psychiatrist and trying Prozac and some other med.

> > > because the symptoms are so bad. I'm not sure when anxiety turns

> into

> > > OCD, but he also needs to wash his hands all the time...to the

> point

> > > that they are cracked and bleeding.

> > >

> > > If you recommend trying this, can you give me any details on the

> > > biology of MB12 that you would use to justify a request for a

> > > prescription from the doc? (Other than you saw this web site...)

> > >

> > > Thanks for all you do to help others. Hope you're feeling

> better.

> > >

> > > Sally

> > >

> >

>

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how long after you try mb12 would you know if it were

helping? could it potentially do any harm? what if

you are already on ssri's? should you still try it?

Barb

--- Stan Kurtz wrote:

> It sure could! You would be shocked to know how

> many chronic viral issues have to do

> with methylation impairment.

>

> It could also be related to metals and a smoldering

> virus in the gut too.

>

> - An OATS test comes from Great Plains

> - a MAP test if from either Doctors Data or Great

> Smokies... someone help me on that.

> - and a PANDAS test or commonly known as ASO and

> anti-DNAse B test (if my somewhat

> still impaired memory serves). These are mainstream

> tests. Talk to your doctor about it.

>

> - Stan

>

>

>

>

> > > >

> > > > Stan, Does MB12 do anything for anxiety

> alone? My 10 yr. old

> > nephew

> > > > had anxiety set in about two months ago.

> Prior to this he was

> > > > a " normal " , happy kid. His life is really

> miserable right now.

> > He

> > > > worries that chemicals in the environment

> (even 409)will hurt

> > him.

> > > > When his mind starts in on this, he gets

> frustrated that he

> > > > can't " turn it off " and works himself into a

> crying frenzy. My

> > > > brother said these spells come on quickly and

> then once they're

> > over,

> > > > he is just spent and sleepy. He's managing OK

> when he's busy

> > with

> > > > school or sports, but down time at home is

> when he has trouble.

> > > >

> > > > He's seeing a psychiatrist and trying Prozac

> and some other med.

> > > > because the symptoms are so bad. I'm not sure

> when anxiety turns

> > into

> > > > OCD, but he also needs to wash his hands all

> the time...to the

> > point

> > > > that they are cracked and bleeding.

> > > >

> > > > If you recommend trying this, can you give me

> any details on the

> > > > biology of MB12 that you would use to justify

> a request for a

> > > > prescription from the doc? (Other than you saw

> this web site...)

> > > >

> > > > Thanks for all you do to help others. Hope

> you're feeling

> > better.

> > > >

> > > > Sally

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

>

>

>

>

Barb Katsaros

barbkatsaros@...

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I gave info on PANDAS to my brother. They had not heard of it. They

are trying to get a strep test today. And I emailed info on the other

tests you recommended as well as MB12. I'm sure it is all really

overwhelming to them. They had a rough morning at their house. My

sister-in-law went into my nephews room and found him on the floor in a

fetal position.

I'll keep you all posted. Thanks for helping me make sure no stone

goes unturned.

Sally

It was a bad morningI don't think their doc has

>

> and please keep us posted.

>

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