Re: Bouts of nausea/vision

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Hi Caroline, my younger son had alot of problems. When he was a baby I

would get so desperate for sleep. I knew the one place he almost always

fell asleep...the car. So whenever nothing else was working, I'd put him in

his carseat and drive til he fell asleep. This worked until he was around

18mos...then he began getting carsick. So that solution was no longer an

option.

Sometimes, just driving to the market would make him feel ill. One time we

drove a short distance to enroll in swimming classes. We made it part way

into the building and bla.... Other times, at daycare he'd just be out

playing with the kids and it'd hit out of the blue. I'm not sure that it

was directly related to the foods...more from what was happening in his

brain. After we changed his diet it got alot better. But with an OCD flair

he will experience more bouts of carsickness, motionsickness,etc.

I know what you mean about connecting everything to . But everything

just keeps connecting. My younger son also has severe light sensitivity

with his OCD flairs. My older son who had CFS had the pressure elevated in

his eyes. They were keeping tabs on the levels and it lowered back down

after he began treatment for .

Everything I look at now discusses the cytokines, neurotrophins,etc. My mom

had detached retinas (research discusses cytokines) (she has viral flairs)

My FIL has glaucoma which has been connected to Helicobacter pylori.

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My dad was treated for the same bacteria after developing ulcers.

I don't think there was any bacterial involvement with my older son, yet the

younger one has his ocd triggered by bacteria. There's some new research I

plan to post on eczema that really hit home for me. The article is on

susceptability to bacterial infections due to a lack of natural antibiotics

in the skin. They found patients with eczema didn't produce this. In

psoriasis they found very high levels. My younger son had eczema and the

older one had psoriasis. They both cleared up when the stress was taken off

their immune systems.

I would probably have your son follow the diet, at least. Especially

with the susceptability. My older son had allergies, but didn't develop

futher problems until Jr High. Then he developed CFS/, psoriasis,

academic nosedive, etc.

Cheryl

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>From: Caroline Glover <sfglover@...>

>Reply-

> < >

>Subject: Bouts of nausea

>Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 23:55:24 -0500

>

>Hi every one...

>

>I've thought about throwing this question out to you all for a while, and

>decided to go for it tonight.

>

>Do any of your kids have periodic bouts of nausea? We have one child

>functioning " normally " but definitely affected by milk (which he no longer

>gets) who, every month or so, will wake up feel nauseated 'til he throws

>up,

>then is pretty much fine by noon. He also gets diarrhea from drinking even

>one soda sometimes. Stress seems to trigger it some, and maybe even sugar

>(i.e. the soda). I hear that some kids just have " nervous stomachs " , but

>there has to be a reason for it.

>

>Any ideas? Our pediatrician thought maybe it was an overabundance of

>mucous

>from allergies, and put him on a tight allergy control regimen. He has

>done

>better since both of these interventions (allergy control and milk

>removal).

>Last school year was a very exciting year in school with lots of speeches,

>contests, etc... fun but fraught with anxiety. This year has been more

>mellow at school. I don't know whether he's really better or just not as

>stressed therefore not feeling sick.

>

>I tend now (in our family) to think everything that happens is connected to

>. I do believe that much of it is, but am ignorant enough medically (I

>was an art major) to really not understand a whole lot (but I do try!).

>

>Any advice? By the way, I am trying to keep a food diary when it happens.

>

>Caroline

>

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Cheryl

Thanks for sharing all of this... we have, in fact put our whole family on

the diet.

>But with an OCD flair he will experience more bouts of carsickness,

motionsickness,etc.

That really makes me wonder if it's the diet that is helping. The child I

am referring to, by the way, also was very oppositional until we took him

off of milk AND (to tie into your fascinating dermatological info) had a

rash on his face for TWO years (the dermatologist gave us meds that would

keep it at bay but not get rid of it) that finally went away when we removed

milk from his diet last Christmas. My younger son had a similar rash but

his did not go away (even with the diet) 'til a round of Vantin (love

that antibiotic) was given for something else. In fact, four people in our

family got the rash at the same time and only my daughter was able to get

rid of it without some sort of intervention. I even went so far as to have

a skin patch stuck on my back to try to figure out the trigger. Never did

figure it out. I got rid of it with antibiotics. The dermatologist said

our rashes were all different types, but we got them at the same time. Just

goes to show how each immune system reacts in a different way.

> My younger son also has severe light sensitivity

> with his OCD flairs. My older son who had CFS had the pressure elevated in

> his eyes. They were keeping tabs on the levels and it lowered back down

> after he began treatment for .

This is so interesting... makes me hope that maybe my son's eyes are doing

slightly better since he is not so light sensitive anymore. My mom has high

pressure in her eyes (controlled by glaucoma meds) and fibromyalgia that

comes and goes... etc., etc.

> My FIL has glaucoma which has been connected to Helicobacter pylori.

> /message/9366

Thanks for that post... when you first posted it, I printed it out for my

Mom. Is anyone acting on that information yet (giving glaucoma patients any

sort of antibiotic treatment that you have heard of)?

Thanks so much for your response. I feel like we're doing the best we can

to deal with the nausea thing, then, for now... keep him on the diet.

Caroline

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Caroline,

I hope that everything turns out O.K. with your sons.

After I read the research on glaucoma.....I told my FIL about it.

Unfortunately, his doctors response was that he had heard about it, was

something being researched, and that was about it. Until something is set

in stone, most doctors aren't even willing to see if it could be a

contributing factor.

That's what I like about a local doctor I see. He has a very open mind, and

his concern is whether he can help his patients. If something could help,

it's not dangerous or risky, he's willing to consider it. We've had alot of

discussion about all the immune/brain disorders and he has alot of interest.

He had several patients that hadn't felt well in a long time, and no one

could figure out what was wrong. His suspicion was some type of chronic

infection, but nobody could really find anything. One had even been to UCLA

and had a complete work-up.....nothing was found.

My doctor decided to look at the infection possibility in about four

patients that he had not been able to help in any substantial way. From

what he said, three out of the four were responding to the medication he

prescribed. One who had been on disability, was back at work. You could

see how happy he was, he had finally been able to help.....the proof was his

patients, the research from everywhere with links to immune, autoimmune,

and/or infections in chronic disorders. Not the set in stone publication.

Cheryl

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From: Caroline Glover <sfglover@...>

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Subject: Re: Bouts of nausea/vision

Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2002 21:31:11 -0500

>This is so interesting... makes me hope that maybe my son's eyes are doing

>slightly better since he is not so light sensitive anymore. My mom has

>high

>pressure in her eyes (controlled by glaucoma meds) and fibromyalgia that

>comes and goes... etc., etc.

> My FIL has glaucoma which has been connected to Helicobacter pylori.

> /message/9366

>Thanks for that post... when you first posted it, I printed it out for my

>Mom. Is anyone acting on that information yet (giving glaucoma patients

>any

>sort of antibiotic treatment that you have heard of)?

>Thanks so much for your response. I feel like we're doing the best we can

>to deal with the nausea thing, then, for now... keep him on the diet.

>Caroline

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Cheryl,

Thanks... sounds like you have a great doctor. I wish I could find one like

that around here (or that I could shrink myself and go to my kids'

pediatrician, who is a great supporter). Dr. G told me that I should

be running some of the blood work on myself from things I mentioned to

him and I'm so sure my doctor won't even consider this stuff... it's a

bummer. I'll never know if I don't ask, though.

Caroline

>On 10/17/02 1:41 PM, " Cheryl B " <clbro66@...> wrote:

> Caroline,

> I hope that everything turns out O.K. with your sons.

>

> After I read the research on glaucoma.....I told my FIL about it.

> Unfortunately, his doctors response was that he had heard about it, was

> something being researched, and that was about it. Until something is set

> in stone, most doctors aren't even willing to see if it could be a

> contributing factor.

>

> That's what I like about a local doctor I see. He has a very open mind, and

> his concern is whether he can help his patients. If something could help,

> it's not dangerous or risky, he's willing to consider it. We've had alot of

> discussion about all the immune/brain disorders and he has alot of interest.

>

> He had several patients that hadn't felt well in a long time, and no one

> could figure out what was wrong. His suspicion was some type of chronic

> infection, but nobody could really find anything. One had even been to UCLA

> and had a complete work-up.....nothing was found.

>

> My doctor decided to look at the infection possibility in about four

> patients that he had not been able to help in any substantial way. From

> what he said, three out of the four were responding to the medication he

> prescribed. One who had been on disability, was back at work. You could

> see how happy he was, he had finally been able to help.....the proof was his

> patients, the research from everywhere with links to immune, autoimmune,

> and/or infections in chronic disorders. Not the set in stone publication.

> Cheryl

>

>

> ----Original Message Follows----

> From: Caroline Glover <sfglover@...>

> Reply-

> < >

> Subject: Re: Bouts of nausea/vision

> Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2002 21:31:11 -0500

>

>

>> This is so interesting... makes me hope that maybe my son's eyes are doing

>> slightly better since he is not so light sensitive anymore. My mom has

>> high

>> pressure in her eyes (controlled by glaucoma meds) and fibromyalgia that

>> comes and goes... etc., etc.

>

>> My FIL has glaucoma which has been connected to Helicobacter pylori.

>> /message/9366

>

>> Thanks for that post... when you first posted it, I printed it out for my

>> Mom. Is anyone acting on that information yet (giving glaucoma patients

>> any

>> sort of antibiotic treatment that you have heard of)?

>

>> Thanks so much for your response. I feel like we're doing the best we can

>> to deal with the nausea thing, then, for now... keep him on the diet.

>

>> Caroline

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Regina,

What is a DO Doctor? Sorry! Thanks in advance!

Caroline

Hi Caroline,

From my general experience DO doctors are much more open to try things

rather then Md. Try to fined a good one in your area. It might be insurance

issue though, most of them are not in network providers, so if you do not

have PPO it might be expensive.

Good luck

Regina

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What is a DO Doctor? Sorry! Thanks in advance!

DO stands for " Doctor of Osteopathy " or an Osteopath. In most states, they are

considered to be on equal standing with MD's. My ob-gyn is an Osteopath and is

a board-certified surgeon.