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In a message dated 12/21/99 11:02:14 AM Eastern Standard Time,

LaddM@... writes:

<< Glad to be here--

(writing from my work account)

>>

Welcome to the group !! We are happy to have you!!

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Hello all,

My name is Gracie and I am so glad to find this group. I have been doing

Tae-Bo for the last 3 months, 3 days a week. I was really starting to see

some results and then got pneumonia and have not been able to workout the

last 3 weeks. I will be starting anew shortly and this group will be a great

motivation for me.

Glad to be here, Merry Christmas, & Happy New Year...

Gracie

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In a message dated 12/21/1999 4:45:59 PM Eastern Standard Time,

litlrooh@... writes:

<< I dropped my caloric intake to an average of 1400-1500/day with exercise

figuring that if I maintain with exercise and a cal intake of 1700-2200

cal/day, then certainly if I dropped my cal intake, I would lose. At the

same time I increased my exercise to daily during my 21 day challenge, and

then went to every other day, adding weight training. So, I decreased my

cal intake, and increased my exercise, and STILL no loss of inches. >>

you know...

I think we both made the same boo boo here

I did the same thing... increased my exercise time & intensity by throwing in

Advanced work-outs & weight training and at the same time, started watching

what went into my mouth more selectively & was surprised to see I was

averaging only 1400 calories a day when dietwatch suggested 2200.

I think I confused my metabolism instead of shaking it up

Now I am eating around 1800 but still nothing is happening although I do feel

my muscles still toning

Barb

who warns everyone on high protein/low carbs to drink even more water & will

be trying low carbs for a week or two after the New Year to try to get

something popping

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, welcome to this list.

Maybe you will be able to help me. You've probably read my posts.

Could you give us some tips that body building women use for eating and

exercise?

I've got a family, I homeschool, and I work, so I need soemthing that I can

stick with realistically. I dont' appear to be ready for the pace of the

advanced tapes as I lose my form, and if I'm going to go slower, then I

might as well just do basic.

I also lift weights...upper bodyonly, since I don't go to a gym and use free

weights. I use 5 pound weights for shoulder work, pecs, and triceps, and 10

pound weights for biceps.

Re: please intro yourselves if new

At 06:41 AM 12/21/99 EST, Barb wrote:

>Remember to share something about yourself as most of us did around 10/25

<snip>

I'll take that as a hint, since I just joined the list. Hi! ::waves::

My name is and I know Sandy from another list we're on together. She

mentioned something about a Tae Bo list she was on, and did my ears perk up!

I told her that I was sick and tired of people looking at me like I'd joined

a cult when I said that I did Tae Bo, and she sent me the subscription

information for this list.

About me and Tae Bo (kind of long, but bear with me--it gets to Tae Bo

eventually):

I've been an exercise nut for about the last five years. When I finally

decided to start exercising regularly, I went to the bookstore and got a

book about bodybuilding. Why? Well, using the machines never really worked

for me, and I hated the idea of aerobics (this was back in the days when

" aerobics " equalled " legwarmers " ). I wanted to use free weights like those

cool people in the gym, *plus* I figured that if these women on the covers

of these books could make themselves look great, doing whatever it was they

were doing, then it would be worthwhile to try it for a while myself. Worth

a shot, right?

Needless to say, I found out that professional bodybuilders, especially

women, don't necessarily look that way naturally, but I did learn a lot

about diet, exercise, and weight lifting. I went from about 160+ to 140

(I'm six feet tall), working out six days a week, two hours a day, and

really watching what I ate. Believe me, I read everything I could find

about what to eat and when and how often to eat. I swear by the way that

body builders eat. It works!!

Then I decided that I was a little *too* skinny, and I decided to gain

weight. Fast forward a while, and I'm back up to 155, not working out as

much, eating pretty much whatever (not well), and I'm feeling kind of....

fluffy. Not *fat*, but not lean like I want to feel.

Right about then (right around February 1999) I started a new job that had

me at work from 6am to 3pm, which I didn't mind, but it was real hard to get

up and go to the gym before work (try getting up at 3am!). So when I found

out you could buy Tae Bo in stores (I just didn't like the idea of buying

through an infomercial), and my friends (Sandy) started raving about it, I

figured, why not try it? So I would come home from work and do Tae Bo Basic

in my living room. Six days a week and four months later, I'm feeling

really good. Not losing any weight, but definitely toning up.

And then I switched to Advanced. I thought I loved the Basic! I couldn't

believe the difference, even after just a month on the Advanced. Wow! For

the first time, I can see my triceps, my shoulders are much more cut, and I

can even see my abs! Whoo-hoo!! And don't even start me on my butt. By

summer, I'll be more than happy to put on a bathing suit.

By now I've been doing Advanced for about three months, and I'm so

behind.... I knew there were Live videos, but more than one??? Cool!!

So when you all talk about what is in each video, believe you me, I'm taking

notes. I love the floor work in the Advanced, and didn't somebody say that

one of the Advanced Live tapes is mostly floor? Which one has the best

music?

Glad to be here--

(writing from my work account)

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At 04:14 PM 12/21/99 -0800, you wrote:

>Ok ...here is what i have been doing...

>

>First, I threw out the scale a long long time ago. I weigh myself at work

>maybe once a month. I use a measuring tape to measure progress.

>

Good for you!

>To start (in Sept), I ate 1700-2000-2200 cal/day, and maintained...with

>exercise. I did not lose weight. I did not lose inches. So even though

>muscle weighs more than fat and measures less, I did not lose any

>signicifant inches. Instead, I have been fluctuating in the same 5 total

>body inch range for the past 4 months.

So you started at... what weight? How tall are you?

> <snip> So, I decreased my

>cal intake, and increased my exercise, and STILL no loss of inches.

>

And this is only since September?

, I'm not a nutritionist and I'm not a professional fitness trainer.

I can only tell you what has worked for me.

It sounds to me like you've been through a lot in the past few months. I'm

very sorry to hear about your Grandmother. A death in the family is *so*

stressful, and the fact that you're getting back (have already gotten back

to) exercising and taking care of yourself is great! Good for you!

Congratulate yourself on surviving the hard times and being able to do

something for yourself, like exercise. You deserve it!

The hardest lesson to learn when it comes to fitness is that any

significant change in your body size or composition takes *time*.

Significant time. Getting quick results is unusual, when it's not

completely unhealthy (because of starvation diets or overexercising) or a

total scam (like those " Lose 40 pounds in two months! " signs you see by the

side of the road).

I'm not saying that you lack commitment. You obviously do not lack

commitment or motivation. But it's easy to get too focused on the outward

results of working out (being thinner) instead of the inner ones (being

healthier, lower cholesterol, having more energy). The outer results

*will* come, if you make healthy choices eating and exercise regularly.

Unfortunately, there are no quick fixes, no magic formulas.

Yes, I have seen the cautions about the high-protein diets being hard on

your body. I don't doubt it for a second. *IF* you do it for too long,

and *IF* you go overboard and eat nothing but protein.

This is what *I* think (and again, I am not a nutritionist, this is only my

opinion, your mileage may vary, I suggest that you read the information

yourself and make your own decision): that bodybuilders, who are generally

very healthy people already, seem to be getting good results eating more

protein and minimizing their carbohydrate intake. It seems to work for

them. It has worked for me in the past. It may work for others.

When I first got into body building, I got a book called _Perfect Parts_,

by MacLish (a prominent female bodybuilder). She talks at length

about what exercises to do, how to do them, and what to eat. The diet that

she has in the back of the book is what I would consider a body builders'

diet (in the sense that it's for losing weight, not for daily eating). You

might want to check it out. It's great for people who are getting started

with weights and body building and want to find out the basics.

Aerobic exercise vs. weight lifting ratio? I don't know what the magic

number is. I used to do about 60 minutes of aerobic exercise (brisk

walking on the treadmill or the stairmaster) six days a week, followed by

an hour of free weights. I varied my weight routine so that I worked each

body part three times a week.

Now, that's a body builder's routine. I was very fortunate to have the

luxury of the time to do it. I don't have that time any more.

The real magic formula you already have a handle on, : you have to

burn more calories than you take in, in order to lose weight.

I'm sorry I don't have more easy answers for you. But you certainly have

my encouragement! I know you can get the results you want if you stick

with it!

(writing now from home)

morrigan13@...

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> So when you all talk about what is in each video, believe you me, I'm

taking notes. I love the floor work in the Advanced, and didn't

somebody say that one of the Advanced Live tapes is mostly floor?

Which one has the best music?

,

Welcome to our group! Glad you decided to subscribe..any friend of

Sandy's is a friend of ours :) If you're looking to talk about

tae-bo...you've come to the right place. Thanks for sharing your

story. You sound alot like me...although I'm only 5'9 (I wish I was

6'), but I weigh about 151 lbs. I've definitely gotten wonderful

definition from tae-bo...even more than when I used to lift, believe it

or not.

As far as tapes go...AL5 is the killer tape that's almost all

floorwork. As far as best music goes, I'd have to say AL2 has the best

music. It always motivates me, no matter what. Also, the soundtrack

on AL5 is really great!

Well, again, thanks for joining our little family!

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> I'm going to go ahead and give " 's patented weight-loss

speech, " which I usually save until I have known people a little

longer, but since you asked I'll just throw it out there for what it's

worth. Your mileage may vary; here's what works for me, etcetera......

,

Thanks for all the great information....I like you already :)

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