Re: Web radio program on CFS, glutathione depletion and autism

[Guest guest]

Rich

FANTASTICS , I'm so happy your new friend has come around to

understanding that autism is so close to cfs. If she would like to

bother understanding the TOXIC MECAHANISMS BEHIND BOTH ILNESSES she

may go and check out the newcastle university site that came to this

same conclusion around 88- 90 when they first started there

research.Unfortuantely there research fell on deaf ears because it

follows in the same vein as the MARSHALL GROUP and the Ulcer

causing bacteria- it goes down like a lead balloon when it stops

surgeons performing surgeries.Just in case you didn't notice, being

high on glutathione yourself the marshall people one the noble prize

in medicine for there discovery.

>

> Hi, all.

>

> I want to let you know that next Tuesday, May 30, at 10 a.m. U.S.

> Eastern time (7 a.m. U.S. Pacific time) there will be a program

> aired on Autism One radio (http://www.autismone.org/radio) on

> chronic fatigue syndrome (CFS), glutathione depletion and autism.

> Laurette Janak (who is an autism researcher from upstate New York

> and mother of an adopted niece who has both Down syndrome and

> autism) and myself will be interviewed by Teri Small. It's quite

a

> long interview, so if that time is not convenient for you, you can

> catch the program later, whenever you want to, after it has been

put

> into the archives, probably the following week.

>

> There will also be a second interview with the same cast of

> characters aired in early June that will develop the parallels

> between CFS, autism and magnesium depletion in more detail. I

timed

> that one, and it's three hours long! So I recommend that people

> take these interviews in manageable chunks, rather than all at

> once. There is a fast-forward feature, so you can stop and come

> back to the same place later.

>

> I think this topic is really going to draw some interest. I was

> surprised at how many parallels we (actually mostly Laurette)

found

> between CFS and autism. It looks as though the genetic

> predisposition and a lot of the biochemistry (with the exception

of

> aspects involved with early brain development) are very similar

> between CFS and autism.

>

> Rich Van Konynenburg

>

[Guest guest]

Hi, Tony.

As always, I'm honored and gratified that you have taken the time to

share some of your thoughts and benevolent remarks in response to my

post!

Yes, I was happy to see that Barry Marshall and his colleague won

the Nobel prize. I have to take my hat off to someone who will

infect himself to produce ulcers in order to prove his point. I

understand the impact of their discovery on ulcer surgeries. As far

as I know, though, there haven't been too many surgeries done on

autistic children or adults with CFS. There were a few Chiari

surgeries done in CFS a few years ago, I understand, but I don't

think it caught on.

As far as the Newcastle University group is concerned, I have a file

containing their work in CFS (some of which, disappointingly, has

been discredited by a group in the U.K., by the way), but I wasn't

aware that they had worked in autism. I'll try to dig that up, and

thank you for the tip.

Rich

-- In infections , " dumbaussie2000 "

<dumbaussie2000@...> wrote:

>

> Rich

> FANTASTICS , I'm so happy your new friend has come around to

> understanding that autism is so close to cfs. If she would like to

> bother understanding the TOXIC MECAHANISMS BEHIND BOTH ILNESSES

she

> may go and check out the newcastle university site that came to

this

> same conclusion around 88- 90 when they first started there

> research.Unfortuantely there research fell on deaf ears because it

> follows in the same vein as the MARSHALL GROUP and the Ulcer

> causing bacteria- it goes down like a lead balloon when it stops

> surgeons performing surgeries.Just in case you didn't notice,

being

> high on glutathione yourself the marshall people one the noble

prize

> in medicine for there discovery.

>

>

>

>

>

> >

> > Hi, all.

> >

> > I want to let you know that next Tuesday, May 30, at 10 a.m.

U.S.

> > Eastern time (7 a.m. U.S. Pacific time) there will be a program

> > aired on Autism One radio (http://www.autismone.org/radio) on

> > chronic fatigue syndrome (CFS), glutathione depletion and

autism.

> > Laurette Janak (who is an autism researcher from upstate New

York

> > and mother of an adopted niece who has both Down syndrome and

> > autism) and myself will be interviewed by Teri Small. It's

quite

> a

> > long interview, so if that time is not convenient for you, you

can

> > catch the program later, whenever you want to, after it has been

> put

> > into the archives, probably the following week.

> >

> > There will also be a second interview with the same cast of

> > characters aired in early June that will develop the parallels

> > between CFS, autism and magnesium depletion in more detail. I

> timed

> > that one, and it's three hours long! So I recommend that people

> > take these interviews in manageable chunks, rather than all at

> > once. There is a fast-forward feature, so you can stop and come

> > back to the same place later.

> >

> > I think this topic is really going to draw some interest. I was

> > surprised at how many parallels we (actually mostly Laurette)

> found

> > between CFS and autism. It looks as though the genetic

> > predisposition and a lot of the biochemistry (with the exception

> of

> > aspects involved with early brain development) are very similar

> > between CFS and autism.

> >

> > Rich Van Konynenburg

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Rich

I would also be honoured that you and your new found friend in the

autistic side of 'inflammation related diseases' took some time out

and looked carefully at the constant but subtle differences in red

blood cell formations and counts... I find it absolutely redicul;ous

that anyone finding toxin mediated inflammation can be discounted as

a croc in medicine when they just PRESENT THERE FINDINGS.

IF YOU DID THE SIMPLE MATH AND SAID HERE'S THE HEAD-HERE'S THE

TOXINS- HERE'S OUR FINDINGS MAKE OF THEM WHAT YOU WILL and you got

discredited like marshall and his group, you wouldn't think too

highly of the system.

BAsically these people never, ever go out and scream anything they

just present there findings.Marshall went a step further to be heard-

he was fortuante that he could show his ulcers- NOT TOO MANY PEOPLE

ARE GOING TO STEP UP AND HAVE THERE BRAIN INFLAMMAED(ENLARGED) TO

PROVE ANYTHING AS THIS IS NEVER EVER DIAGNOSED IN THE ALREADY

INFLAMMED GROUPS AROUND THE MEDICAL 'SEARCH FOR A DIAGNOSIS'

CIRCLES. jUST A CONSTANT IN AUTISTIC KIDS 'THERE BRAINS ARE MUCH

LARGER THAN ORDINARY KIDS'..POSSABLE INFLAMMATION IMO... -

-- In infections , " rvankonynen "

<richvank@...> wrote:

>

> Hi, Tony.

>

> As always, I'm honored and gratified that you have taken the time

to

> share some of your thoughts and benevolent remarks in response to

my

> post!

>

> Yes, I was happy to see that Barry Marshall and his colleague won

> the Nobel prize. I have to take my hat off to someone who will

> infect himself to produce ulcers in order to prove his point. I

> understand the impact of their discovery on ulcer surgeries. As

far

> as I know, though, there haven't been too many surgeries done on

> autistic children or adults with CFS. There were a few Chiari

> surgeries done in CFS a few years ago, I understand, but I don't

> think it caught on.

>

> As far as the Newcastle University group is concerned, I have a

file

> containing their work in CFS (some of which, disappointingly, has

> been discredited by a group in the U.K., by the way), but I wasn't

> aware that they had worked in autism. I'll try to dig that up,

and

> thank you for the tip.

>

> Rich

>

>

> -- In infections , " dumbaussie2000 "

> <dumbaussie2000@> wrote:

> >

> > Rich

> > FANTASTICS , I'm so happy your new friend has come around to

> > understanding that autism is so close to cfs. If she would like

to

> > bother understanding the TOXIC MECAHANISMS BEHIND BOTH ILNESSES

> she

> > may go and check out the newcastle university site that came to

> this

> > same conclusion around 88- 90 when they first started there

> > research.Unfortuantely there research fell on deaf ears because

it

> > follows in the same vein as the MARSHALL GROUP and the Ulcer

> > causing bacteria- it goes down like a lead balloon when it stops

> > surgeons performing surgeries.Just in case you didn't notice,

> being

> > high on glutathione yourself the marshall people one the noble

> prize

> > in medicine for there discovery.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > >

> > > Hi, all.

> > >

> > > I want to let you know that next Tuesday, May 30, at 10 a.m.

> U.S.

> > > Eastern time (7 a.m. U.S. Pacific time) there will be a

program

> > > aired on Autism One radio (http://www.autismone.org/radio) on

> > > chronic fatigue syndrome (CFS), glutathione depletion and

> autism.

> > > Laurette Janak (who is an autism researcher from upstate New

> York

> > > and mother of an adopted niece who has both Down syndrome and

> > > autism) and myself will be interviewed by Teri Small. It's

> quite

> > a

> > > long interview, so if that time is not convenient for you, you

> can

> > > catch the program later, whenever you want to, after it has

been

> > put

> > > into the archives, probably the following week.

> > >

> > > There will also be a second interview with the same cast of

> > > characters aired in early June that will develop the parallels

> > > between CFS, autism and magnesium depletion in more detail. I

> > timed

> > > that one, and it's three hours long! So I recommend that

people

> > > take these interviews in manageable chunks, rather than all at

> > > once. There is a fast-forward feature, so you can stop and

come

> > > back to the same place later.

> > >

> > > I think this topic is really going to draw some interest. I

was

> > > surprised at how many parallels we (actually mostly Laurette)

> > found

> > > between CFS and autism. It looks as though the genetic

> > > predisposition and a lot of the biochemistry (with the

exception

> > of

> > > aspects involved with early brain development) are very

similar

> > > between CFS and autism.

> > >

> > > Rich Van Konynenburg

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

By the way rich I'm alway's honoured when I read your stuff as well.

I normally place a couple of fingers doiwn my throat and go

ahhhhhhh!!!!!! what is wrong with these people they should go out

and meet the sick.Just in case you didn't know the rest of the world

calls CFS ME (myalgic encephalitis-encephaloptahy(sp)) the brain is

normally swollen in the encephalitis group of ilnesses, strange that

the brain is also not right with the autistic kids.I wouldn't walk

around going whoa whee when commonsense is brought to the equation

of comapring the two. I normally question the billions of dollars

that get pissed against the wall when these ilness mechanisms aren't

viewed from the basic observations yet take on some far fetched star

spangled processing of dna angle.

> > >

> > > Hi, all.

> > >

> > > I want to let you know that next Tuesday, May 30, at 10 a.m.

> U.S.

> > > Eastern time (7 a.m. U.S. Pacific time) there will be a

program

> > > aired on Autism One radio (http://www.autismone.org/radio) on

> > > chronic fatigue syndrome (CFS), glutathione depletion and

> autism.

> > > Laurette Janak (who is an autism researcher from upstate New

> York

> > > and mother of an adopted niece who has both Down syndrome and

> > > autism) and myself will be interviewed by Teri Small. It's

> quite

> > a

> > > long interview, so if that time is not convenient for you, you

> can

> > > catch the program later, whenever you want to, after it has

been

> > put

> > > into the archives, probably the following week.

> > >

> > > There will also be a second interview with the same cast of

> > > characters aired in early June that will develop the parallels

> > > between CFS, autism and magnesium depletion in more detail. I

> > timed

> > > that one, and it's three hours long! So I recommend that

people

> > > take these interviews in manageable chunks, rather than all at

> > > once. There is a fast-forward feature, so you can stop and

come

> > > back to the same place later.

> > >

> > > I think this topic is really going to draw some interest. I

was

> > > surprised at how many parallels we (actually mostly Laurette)

> > found

> > > between CFS and autism. It looks as though the genetic

> > > predisposition and a lot of the biochemistry (with the

exception

> > of

> > > aspects involved with early brain development) are very

similar

> > > between CFS and autism.

> > >

> > > Rich Van Konynenburg

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Rich, could you please let me know what the link in sulpha allergy,

b12, and the detox pathways is again.

thanks

bleu

On 27 May 2006, at 01:46, rvankonynen wrote:

> Hi, all.

>

> I want to let you know that next Tuesday, May 30, at 10 a.m. U.S.

> Eastern time (7 a.m. U.S. Pacific time) there will be a program

> aired on Autism One radio (http://www.autismone.org/radio) on

> chronic fatigue syndrome (CFS), glutathione depletion and autism. 

> Laurette Janak (who is an autism researcher from upstate New York

> and mother of an adopted niece who has both Down syndrome and

> autism) and myself will be interviewed by Teri Small.  It's quite a

> long interview, so if that time is not convenient for you, you can

> catch the program later, whenever you want to, after it has been put

> into the archives, probably the following week.

>

> There will also be a second interview with the same cast of

> characters aired in early June that will develop the parallels

> between CFS, autism and magnesium depletion in more detail.  I timed

> that one, and it's three hours long!  So I recommend that people

> take these interviews in manageable chunks, rather than all at

> once.  There is a fast-forward feature, so you can stop and come

> back to the same place later.

>

> I think this topic is really going to draw some interest.  I was

> surprised at how many parallels we (actually mostly Laurette) found

> between CFS and autism.  It looks as though the genetic

> predisposition and a lot of the biochemistry (with the exception of

> aspects involved with early brain development) are very similar

> between CFS and autism.

>

> Rich Van Konynenburg

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hello Rich , thanks for the info ,I'll look forward to hearing that. It's no

surprise to me that parallels are being drawn between CFS and Autism, I

believe the common denominator is infection ,As per Tony above it's clear

that infection induced encephalitis is a major feature of Autism .It

wouldn't take much to prove the infection theory, just a short course of

Olmestartan would be definitive.. It looks like you and i are on the same

course , my aim now is to promote the infection angle as a cause of autism

,to get more testing more research .Would you read my web site , any feed

back will appreciated ...Regards ..

http://www.yeast-candida-infections-uk.co.uk/

[infections] Web radio program on CFS,

glutathione depletion and autism

Hi, all.

I want to let you know that next Tuesday, May 30, at 10 a.m. U.S.

Eastern time (7 a.m. U.S. Pacific time) there will be a program

aired on Autism One radio (http://www.autismone.org/radio) on

chronic fatigue syndrome (CFS), glutathione depletion and autism.

Laurette Janak (who is an autism researcher from upstate New York

and mother of an adopted niece who has both Down syndrome and

autism) and myself will be interviewed by Teri Small. It's quite a

long interview, so if that time is not convenient for you, you can

catch the program later, whenever you want to, after it has been put

into the archives, probably the following week.

There will also be a second interview with the same cast of

characters aired in early June that will develop the parallels

between CFS, autism and magnesium depletion in more detail. I timed

that one, and it's three hours long! So I recommend that people

take these interviews in manageable chunks, rather than all at

once. There is a fast-forward feature, so you can stop and come

back to the same place later.

I think this topic is really going to draw some interest. I was

surprised at how many parallels we (actually mostly Laurette) found

between CFS and autism. It looks as though the genetic

predisposition and a lot of the biochemistry (with the exception of

aspects involved with early brain development) are very similar

between CFS and autism.

Rich Van Konynenburg

[Guest guest]

'As far as the Newcastle University group is concerned, I have a file

containing their work in CFS (some of which, disappointingly, has

been discredited by a group in the U.K., by the way), but I wasn't

aware that they had worked in autism. I'll try to dig that up, and

thank you for the tip.'

Rich I can't understand what has been discredited in there work-

They study bacteria and in particular the TOXINS they expell and

NEVER, EVER do they say we feel cfs/fibro is caused by this bacteria

and this group of toxins. like very dedicated professionals they tow

the party line and just place these TOXINS at the feet of there

colleagues and for them to do what they like with the

information.They also say that when a lot of pain is expressed in a

patient we find there's a strong correlation with this group of

TOXINS.

We on this forum are a bit like frying an egg, we don't try and palm

away the burning oil to stop the egg frying we want to switch the

fire off. so basically we take our INFLAMMATION and it's subsequent

injuries very serious and don't like them being played down.

On your way back to the other forum you may want to mention to the

poster a jaw clenching certainty in medicine is CREATED BY TETANII

BACTERIA there TOXINS WILL CLENCH your jaw to the point of LOCK JAW

AND DEATH.

> > >

> > > Hi, all.

> > >

> > > I want to let you know that next Tuesday, May 30, at 10 a.m.

> U.S.

> > > Eastern time (7 a.m. U.S. Pacific time) there will be a

program

> > > aired on Autism One radio (http://www.autismone.org/radio) on

> > > chronic fatigue syndrome (CFS), glutathione depletion and

> autism.

> > > Laurette Janak (who is an autism researcher from upstate New

> York

> > > and mother of an adopted niece who has both Down syndrome and

> > > autism) and myself will be interviewed by Teri Small. It's

> quite

> > a

> > > long interview, so if that time is not convenient for you, you

> can

> > > catch the program later, whenever you want to, after it has

been

> > put

> > > into the archives, probably the following week.

> > >

> > > There will also be a second interview with the same cast of

> > > characters aired in early June that will develop the parallels

> > > between CFS, autism and magnesium depletion in more detail. I

> > timed

> > > that one, and it's three hours long! So I recommend that

people

> > > take these interviews in manageable chunks, rather than all at

> > > once. There is a fast-forward feature, so you can stop and

come

> > > back to the same place later.

> > >

> > > I think this topic is really going to draw some interest. I

was

> > > surprised at how many parallels we (actually mostly Laurette)

> > found

> > > between CFS and autism. It looks as though the genetic

> > > predisposition and a lot of the biochemistry (with the

exception

> > of

> > > aspects involved with early brain development) are very

similar

> > > between CFS and autism.

> > >

> > > Rich Van Konynenburg

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Rich

I have just downloaded 4 papers on Irlen Syndrome by the Newcastle group,

links at the bottom of this page. Irlen Syndrome clearly fits in with

Autistic Spectrum disorders and CFS

Regards

Windsor

[infections] Re: Web radio program on CFS,

glutathione depletion and autism

> Hi, Tony.

>

> As always, I'm honored and gratified that you have taken the time to

> share some of your thoughts and benevolent remarks in response to my

> post!

>

> Yes, I was happy to see that Barry Marshall and his colleague won

> the Nobel prize. I have to take my hat off to someone who will

> infect himself to produce ulcers in order to prove his point. I

> understand the impact of their discovery on ulcer surgeries. As far

> as I know, though, there haven't been too many surgeries done on

> autistic children or adults with CFS. There were a few Chiari

> surgeries done in CFS a few years ago, I understand, but I don't

> think it caught on.

>

> As far as the Newcastle University group is concerned, I have a file

> containing their work in CFS (some of which, disappointingly, has

> been discredited by a group in the U.K., by the way), but I wasn't

> aware that they had worked in autism. I'll try to dig that up, and

> thank you for the tip.

>

> Rich

>

>

> -- In infections , " dumbaussie2000 "

> <dumbaussie2000@...> wrote:

> >

> > Rich

> > FANTASTICS , I'm so happy your new friend has come around to

> > understanding that autism is so close to cfs. If she would like to

> > bother understanding the TOXIC MECAHANISMS BEHIND BOTH ILNESSES

> she

> > may go and check out the newcastle university site that came to

> this

> > same conclusion around 88- 90 when they first started there

> > research.Unfortuantely there research fell on deaf ears because it

> > follows in the same vein as the MARSHALL GROUP and the Ulcer

> > causing bacteria- it goes down like a lead balloon when it stops

> > surgeons performing surgeries.Just in case you didn't notice,

> being

> > high on glutathione yourself the marshall people one the noble

> prize

> > in medicine for there discovery.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > >

> > > Hi, all.

> > >

> > > I want to let you know that next Tuesday, May 30, at 10 a.m.

> U.S.

> > > Eastern time (7 a.m. U.S. Pacific time) there will be a program

> > > aired on Autism One radio (http://www.autismone.org/radio) on

> > > chronic fatigue syndrome (CFS), glutathione depletion and

> autism.

> > > Laurette Janak (who is an autism researcher from upstate New

> York

> > > and mother of an adopted niece who has both Down syndrome and

> > > autism) and myself will be interviewed by Teri Small. It's

> quite

> > a

> > > long interview, so if that time is not convenient for you, you

> can

> > > catch the program later, whenever you want to, after it has been

> > put

> > > into the archives, probably the following week.

> > >

> > > There will also be a second interview with the same cast of

> > > characters aired in early June that will develop the parallels

> > > between CFS, autism and magnesium depletion in more detail. I

> > timed

> > > that one, and it's three hours long! So I recommend that people

> > > take these interviews in manageable chunks, rather than all at

> > > once. There is a fast-forward feature, so you can stop and come

> > > back to the same place later.

> > >

> > > I think this topic is really going to draw some interest. I was

> > > surprised at how many parallels we (actually mostly Laurette)

> > found

> > > between CFS and autism. It looks as though the genetic

> > > predisposition and a lot of the biochemistry (with the exception

> > of

> > > aspects involved with early brain development) are very similar

> > > between CFS and autism.

> > >

> > > Rich Van Konynenburg

> > >

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Works better if one checks that the link is pasted

R

http://www.newcastle.edu.au/centre/sed/irlenslensprogram/

[infections] Re: Web radio program on CFS,

> glutathione depletion and autism

>

>

> > Hi, Tony.

> >

> > As always, I'm honored and gratified that you have taken the time to

> > share some of your thoughts and benevolent remarks in response to my

> > post!

> >

> > Yes, I was happy to see that Barry Marshall and his colleague won

> > the Nobel prize. I have to take my hat off to someone who will

> > infect himself to produce ulcers in order to prove his point. I

> > understand the impact of their discovery on ulcer surgeries. As far

> > as I know, though, there haven't been too many surgeries done on

> > autistic children or adults with CFS. There were a few Chiari

> > surgeries done in CFS a few years ago, I understand, but I don't

> > think it caught on.

> >

> > As far as the Newcastle University group is concerned, I have a file

> > containing their work in CFS (some of which, disappointingly, has

> > been discredited by a group in the U.K., by the way), but I wasn't

> > aware that they had worked in autism. I'll try to dig that up, and

> > thank you for the tip.

> >

> > Rich

> >

> >

> > -- In infections , " dumbaussie2000 "

> > <dumbaussie2000@...> wrote:

> > >

> > > Rich

> > > FANTASTICS , I'm so happy your new friend has come around to

> > > understanding that autism is so close to cfs. If she would like to

> > > bother understanding the TOXIC MECAHANISMS BEHIND BOTH ILNESSES

> > she

> > > may go and check out the newcastle university site that came to

> > this

> > > same conclusion around 88- 90 when they first started there

> > > research.Unfortuantely there research fell on deaf ears because it

> > > follows in the same vein as the MARSHALL GROUP and the Ulcer

> > > causing bacteria- it goes down like a lead balloon when it stops

> > > surgeons performing surgeries.Just in case you didn't notice,

> > being

> > > high on glutathione yourself the marshall people one the noble

> > prize

> > > in medicine for there discovery.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > >

> > > > Hi, all.

> > > >

> > > > I want to let you know that next Tuesday, May 30, at 10 a.m.

> > U.S.

> > > > Eastern time (7 a.m. U.S. Pacific time) there will be a program

> > > > aired on Autism One radio (http://www.autismone.org/radio) on

> > > > chronic fatigue syndrome (CFS), glutathione depletion and

> > autism.

> > > > Laurette Janak (who is an autism researcher from upstate New

> > York

> > > > and mother of an adopted niece who has both Down syndrome and

> > > > autism) and myself will be interviewed by Teri Small. It's

> > quite

> > > a

> > > > long interview, so if that time is not convenient for you, you

> > can

> > > > catch the program later, whenever you want to, after it has been

> > > put

> > > > into the archives, probably the following week.

> > > >

> > > > There will also be a second interview with the same cast of

> > > > characters aired in early June that will develop the parallels

> > > > between CFS, autism and magnesium depletion in more detail. I

> > > timed

> > > > that one, and it's three hours long! So I recommend that people

> > > > take these interviews in manageable chunks, rather than all at

> > > > once. There is a fast-forward feature, so you can stop and come

> > > > back to the same place later.

> > > >

> > > > I think this topic is really going to draw some interest. I was

> > > > surprised at how many parallels we (actually mostly Laurette)

> > > found

> > > > between CFS and autism. It looks as though the genetic

> > > > predisposition and a lot of the biochemistry (with the exception

> > > of

> > > > aspects involved with early brain development) are very similar

> > > > between CFS and autism.

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> > > > Rich Van Konynenburg

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