Guest guest Posted September 8, 2006 Report Share Posted September 8, 2006 Hello all. Does anyone have any experience with the above supplement? Here's the link: http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/vyo/17.html The ingredients are as follows: 17- Halo-Methyl-drone: 400mg Ge Gan (pueraria lobota) Smilax Officinalis N.O. Oliliacae Betaecdysterone 100mg Wild yam extract 100mg Glabra 100mg Phosphatidyl choline 50mg Citric acid 50mg Thanks. Dan Heffley Las Vegas, NV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 11, 2006 Report Share Posted September 11, 2006 If I was trying to get my fingers in the pie that is the global market of supplementation worth ~25 billion globally, I too would say something like the statement below (don't forget they are selling the product): " *17-HD (17- Halo-Methyl--drone) is a revolutionary* all natural anabolic formula designed to help pack on lean muscle pounds. It elevates serum levels of free testosterone resulting in an increase in strength, size, and work-out intensity. The patent pending hydroxalation process rearranges the hydrogen and oxygen molecules on the natural steroid ring of a highly anabolic South American plant source. However, there are no additional synthetic " side chain " attached (This would be classified as a designer steroid because the synthetic side chain is added). This potent substrate is in your system in a matter of minutes giving a rush of pure power which reaches every muscle cell in your body. It is not only highly androgenic and anabolic but it also causes rapid cell regeneration, and is anti-estrogenic as well. If your looking for a leaner more muscular physique, and hair raising intensity during your workouts, Then 17-HD is the answer. After only one pill you can't deny the amazing power of this cutting edge phenomenon. 17-HD is the new King of natural muscle enhancement. " ( http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/vyo/17.html) My view from some work I am currently doing: It is known many countries around the world allow foodstuff that does not claim to diagnose, treat, prevent or cure disease to bypass checking of claims. Athletic performance enhancement falls way out of this loosely controlled standards bracket of claim disclosure. This supplement is in a group called Ecdysterones, it is derived from insect hormones (phytoecdysteroids). It may come under a number of names: Ectysterone, 20 â-Hydroxyecdysterone, turkesterone, Ponasterone, Ecdysone, or Ecdystene. The substance the potential to promote changes in body composition if results from insect and animal (quail) studies transfer to humans. If you were an insect or quail or considering personal training for this group then I would say could be a good choice of supplement. As of yet it would be hard to predict what effect it will have in humans, and how safe it is. Something that builds insects does not necessarily build humans. I'm sitting on the fence with this one because it is too early to tell with the lack of quality information. Think carefully about putting the new 'king of natural muscle enhancement' into your body without really knowing what is going to happen (short- or long-term). Some research to read: Burke, L., Cort, M., , G., Crawford, R., Desbrow, B., Farthing, L., Minehan, M., Shaw, N., Warnes, O. (2006). Chapter 16: Supplements and sports foods. In: Burke, L., Deakin, V. (Editors). Clinical sports nutrition (3rdedition). McGraw-Hill, USA. Juhn, M.S. (2003). Popular sports supplements and ergogenic aids. *Sports Medicine.* *33,* 921-939. Maughan, R.J., King, D.S., Lea, T. (2004). Dietary supplements. *Journal of Sports Sciences.* *22,* 95-113. Nissen, S.L., Sharp, R.L. (2003). Effect of dietary supplements on lean mass and strength gains with resistance exercise: a meta-analysis. *Journal of Applied Physiology.* *94,* 651-659. Gallyer Bolton, UK > > Hello all. > > Does anyone have any experience with the above > supplement? Here's the link: > > http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/vyo/17.html > > The ingredients are as follows: > 17- Halo-Methyl-drone: 400mg > Ge Gan (pueraria lobota) > Smilax Officinalis > N.O. Oliliacae > > Betaecdysterone 100mg > Wild yam extract 100mg > Glabra 100mg > Phosphatidyl choline 50mg > Citric acid 50mg > > Thanks. > > Dan Heffley > Las Vegas, NV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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