Guest guest Posted July 14, 2006 Report Share Posted July 14, 2006 My experience with track sprinters in the gym says to get them stronger. I am of the opinion that this is what will improve their first 10 steps. We work on strength and explosive workouts, in a style similar to what the Soviets (I believe) or Westside Barbell. That is, we train both qualities simultaneously in a conjugate method. Their drills on the track should be adequate for translating the skills/strength acquired in the gym to their event. Cowell Raleigh, NC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 14, 2006 Report Share Posted July 14, 2006 I am in the same situation as you . I can front squat 120 kilos for a body weight of 77 kilos but I jump only 26 inches. My coach said that I need to teach my CNS how to " apply " this force to the ground. Cause in fact, the power of a stride is equals to the power apply to the ground. So my coach came with me at a weightlifting session and he noted that all my lifts were very slow. He asked me to be as fast as I can in the eccentric portion of the lift (i.e. when you get up with the weigth on a squat, for example) and this is suppose to make me more explosive. The other thing he wants me to do is more plyometrics. So I bought a book on the subject and I will be able to tell if there's any progress in a few months. If there is somebody else with a better idea, please let us know. Thanks Alain Brousseau Montreal, Qc, CAN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 14, 2006 Report Share Posted July 14, 2006 Hi , Remember you are not just training for a single thing here (a sprint)... You are training for the start phase (longer contact time to produce force), transition (a combination of the phase before and after, this would be mainly technical), and full flight phase (very short contact time, rate of force development). Also different body positions during different phases require conditioning of different muscles, different ways. Here's a good place to start: 1. Young, W., Benton, D., Duthie, G., Pryor, J. (2001). Resistance training for Short Sprints and Maximum-speed Sprints. Strength and Conditioning Journal. 23(2), 7-13. Subscription to NSCA needed - (http://nsca.allenpress.com/nscaonline/?request=get-abstract & doi=10.1519/1533-42\ 95(2001)023<0007:RTFSSA>2.0.CO;2) * For muscles involved, body positions etc. 2. Weyand, P.G., Sternlight, D.B., Bellizzi, M.J., , S. (2000). Faster top running speeds are achieved with greater ground forces not more rapid leg movements. Journal of Applied Physiology. 89, 1991-1999. Available from - (http://jap.physiology.org/cgi/reprint/89/5/1991) * Here for stride patterns, forces involved foot contact times, etc. What distance do you sprint? What do you feel is limiting your performance? Gallyer Bolton, UK Archield wrote: <<<For a sprinter, strength training is a supplement to their performance on the track. What are some good ways that a sprinter can help translate their strength from strength training, to their sprinting on the track? Are there any drills or exercises or anything that will help with this. Thank you.>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 14, 2006 Report Share Posted July 14, 2006 I'm not sure why you wouldn't do power cleans or power snatches rather than front squats. The problem with the squat is that as you fully extend at the knee and the hip you are slowing down. With a power clean or snatch you are exploding upward at that point. Squats have more application for strength, but you have to transfer strength gains into power. Power cleans or snatches bridge the gap between strength training and plyometric training quite nicely. How exactly do you plan to implement plyometrics into your program? Supertraining as a book has some very specific information on this training modality and it should as Dr. Verkhoshansky was a pioneer in the development of plyometrics. There is so much dis-information regarding plyos that Dr. V now refers to them as 'powermetrics'. Check Dr. Siff's comments on this subject in the archive for a wealth of information. -- Hobman Saskatoon, CANADA Alain Brousseau wrote: > I am in the same situation as you . I can front squat 120 kilos > for a body weight of 77 kilos but I jump only 26 inches. My coach > said that I need to teach my CNS how to " apply " this force to the > ground. Cause in fact, the power of a stride is equals to the power > apply to the ground. > > So my coach came with me at a weightlifting session and he noted that > all my lifts were very slow. He asked me to be as fast as I can in > the eccentric portion of the lift (i.e. when you get up with the > weigth on a squat, for example) and this is suppose to make me more > explosive. > > The other thing he wants me to do is more plyometrics. So I bought a > book on the subject and I will be able to tell if there's any progress > in a few months. > > If there is somebody else with a better idea, please let us know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 14, 2006 Report Share Posted July 14, 2006 It is important to remember the Speifiity of Training Principle. Train slow and you'll be slow. This time ten years ago Karch Kiraly won the first Gold Medal in Beach Volleyball. At 37. He won because he could cover the entire 30x30 court in 2 strides and had a 40 inch vertical, in addition to a calm mind and 30 yrs. experience in his sport. In the 2 yrs. prior to winning the Olympic Championship, Karch never ran more than 10 yards and that was a sprint. All training consisted of Plyometrics, Olympic Weightlifing (Karch could do a triple 115 kilo power snatch ), wind sprints on a Concept ll Rowing Erg (Karch's pre workout warm up consisted of 5 mins pulling a 1min25sec 500 meter pace for the entire 5 min). Note all training emphasized power and speed of movement. Even when executing full range 500 lb. squats, he was thinking speed. My good friend Dean Brittenham taught Karch how to run. I know all this to be accurate because I personally designed and supervised Kiraly's two year training program (and trained with him) leading up to Atlanta. Speed is an expression of power. To get power, do power training, Olympic Weightlifting and Plyometrics. Coach Ubermensch Sports San Diego Ca. --- Alain Brousseau wrote: > I am in the same situation as you . I can > front squat 120 kilos > for a body weight of 77 kilos but I jump only 26 > inches. My coach > said that I need to teach my CNS how to " apply " this > force to the > ground. Cause in fact, the power of a stride is > equals to the power > apply to the ground. > > So my coach came with me at a weightlifting session > and he noted that > all my lifts were very slow. He asked me to be as > fast as I can in > the eccentric portion of the lift (i.e. when you get > up with the weigth on a squat, for example) and this > is suppose to make me more explosive. > > The other thing he wants me to do is more > plyometrics. So I bought a > book on the subject and I will be able to tell if > there's any progress > in a few months. > > If there is somebody else with a better idea, please > let us know. > > Thanks > Alain Brousseau > Montreal, Qc, CAN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 14, 2006 Report Share Posted July 14, 2006 I believe you meant " concentric " this is the upward portion of the squat the eccentric is the lowering portion. Power cleans and power snatches will help with explosiveness. However, I would incorporate Box squats with bands or chains, this will work wonders for your rate of force development. Incorporated properly you will develop a great deal of power. Train hard and smart! Damien Chiappini SPFS Pittsburgh,PA. Alain Brousseau wrote: > I am in the same situation as you . I can front squat 120 kilos > for a body weight of 77 kilos but I jump only 26 inches. My coach > said that I need to teach my CNS how to " apply " this force to the > ground. Cause in fact, the power of a stride is equals to the power > apply to the ground. > > So my coach came with me at a weightlifting session and he noted that > all my lifts were very slow. He asked me to be as fast as I can in > the eccentric portion of the lift (i.e. when you get up with the > weigth on a squat, for example) and this is suppose to make me more > explosive. > > The other thing he wants me to do is more plyometrics. So I bought a > book on the subject and I will be able to tell if there's any progress > in a few months. > > If there is somebody else with a better idea, please let us know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 14, 2006 Report Share Posted July 14, 2006 You need to incorporate boxsquats, goodmornings, RDL, 1 leg rdl's, bulgarian split squats, box squats with chains or bands, sled drags, car pushes. Your vertical leap is hip extension, think hamstrings and glutes not just quads. You can increase your rate of force development by using chains or bands as a form of accommodating resistance. This will work wonders for your power. Train hard and smart! Damien Chiappini SPFS Pittsburgh, PA. Alain Brousseau wrote: <<<<I am in the same situation as you . I can front squat 120 kilos for a body weight of 77 kilos but I jump only 26 inches. My coach said that I need to teach my CNS how to " apply " this force to the ground. Cause in fact, the power of a stride is equals to the power apply to the ground. So my coach came with me at a weightlifting session and he noted that all my lifts were very slow. He asked me to be as fast as I can in the eccentric portion of the lift (i.e. when you get up with the weigth on a squat, for example) and this is suppose to make me more explosive. The other thing he wants me to do is more plyometrics. So I bought a book on the subject and I will be able to tell if there's any progress in a few months. If there is somebody else with a better idea, please let us know.>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 14, 2006 Report Share Posted July 14, 2006 To get maximum transfer of the strength gains the exercises must be speciazlized, they must duplicate as much as possible the joint actions seen in sprinting. To do this you must have a good understanding of sprint technique. How much strength you gain is not as important as how much improvement you will see in your sprint technique and speed. For more information about specialized strength and explosive exercises for running and sprint technique see EXPLOSIVE RUNNING. I should also mention that the Soviets use high intesity training sparingly. The key to their training lies in specialized exercises for technique, strength and explosive power. For more on this see the soon to be released book, SPECIALIZED SRENGTH TRAINING by Yu. Verkhoshansky ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Yessis, Ph.D President, Sports Training, Inc. www.dryessis.com PO Box 460429 Escondido, CA 92046 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 16, 2006 Report Share Posted July 16, 2006 > > For a sprinter, strength training is a supplement to their performance > on the track. What are some good ways that a sprinter can help translate their strength from strength training, to their sprinting on the track? > > Are there any drills or exercises or anything that will help with > this. *** Sprinting will certainly help. Matveyev (1965) noted that " the relationship between phases of sporting form and periods of training must not be ignored, as they will interupt the normal course of improvement. " Optimal planning, organising and managing training " stressors/activities " will help facilitate the transfer. Some activities may seem to favourably transfer more than others depending on the level of qualification of the athlete. Carruthers Wakefield, UK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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