Re: Re: OT: Detoxing-

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Hi Alica,

Welcome to our group!

I wonder if some sort of toxin binder in the gut might help you feel better and clear out some of the lyme and mold toxins. Dr. Shoemaker out east uses Cholestyramine with success in a lot of people. There is also Welchol, which is what I use occasionally and that seems to bind to the toxins in the gut. Both Cholestyramine and Welchol are scripts from a doc. Also over the counter there is French Green Clay, Charcoal, Chlorella, and probably more that i'm not thinking of.

Many of us have found relief using something to clear the common lyme toxin Ammonia. I use K MAG KG from Source Naturals. But there are many others as well.

As long as the Ammonia is under control Alka Seltzer Gold or 1/4 teaspoon baking soda in water on an empty stomach several times a day helps me stay somewhat alkaline enough. I just saw a new doctor yesterday and they told me i'm too acidic still! So I guess as helpful as the ASG and baking soda have been I need to be using even more. You did mention the baths and those can be really great for alkalizing the body. I live where there is a septic tank and using too much alkaline stuff can disturb the PH of the septic tank causing it to break, so I don't do the baths.

One of the things that has helped me the most are Coffee Enemas. I don't know if you've tried these but they are great for clearing old junk from the liver.

There are also Castor Oil packs that can be placed over the liver with a heating pack that help clean the liver.

Hope something there helps you

Thane

To: Lyme_and_Rife Sent: Tue, January 26, 2010 10:57:47 AMSubject: Re: Re: OT: FIR Sauna (was) I've been thinking...

All, I'm new to the group, but not new to Lyme. Was bit around 14 years ago/bull's eye/tested pos. did the doxy and was fine, 12 years later, was over prescribed ABX's for dental/sinus issues and the Lyme surfaced w/a vengenance, I think it was always in my body, but somehow it resurfaced and has been kicking my body ever since. Been on/off ABX's for years, orals, IV's, bicillin shots, etc. Actually feel worse from the ABX's, any suggestions on how to mop up the ABX toxins, regular toxins from my body? I also have problems w/yeast and mold, I'm basically gluten free, but can't get a hold on yeast/mold/fungus issues, and MCS to a lot of scents/smells/ chemicals. As soon as I walk into a house, garage, basement that has mold (no one else smells it but me) I have to leave immediately. I used to drink red wine, now I break out w/rashes. For no reason at

all, I could be relaxing and welts/hives will just appear on my face/neck for no reason, so bizarre! I've recently started to take a dry sauna bath every other day, and my symptons have not gone away, but don't seem quite as bad, they wax 'n wane. I also have been taking really hot baths w/epsom or epsom/peroxide, as well, I think the magnesium helps my system calm down a bit. I have serious sleeping issues/nervous system issues. One other thing I notices is my fingers/toes aren't as cold since the sauna/baths, but I have to do them all the time. Any suggestions for detox? What is the KPU protocol? Are people seeing results from Rife? Happy Healing to everyone!

From: "musiclady" <sueblantonyahoo (DOT) com>

To: Lyme_and_Rife@ yahoogroups. com

Date: 01/25/2010 07:19 PM

Subject: Re: OT: FIR Sauna (was) I've been thinking...

Sent by: Lyme_and_Rife@ yahoogroups. com

Hey Susie,I just read that you are having problems with the fir Sauna. I did too for quite some time. I found that I would have an allergic reaction to the infrared radiation and the heavy metals that were being excreted from my body. I went ahead and toughed it out along with doing the KPU protocol. Now I am able to sit in the Sauna for a half hour at 130 degrees. I had to start very slow and had to eliminate my allergies every time I would come out of the Sauna. It does get better, so I wouldn't give up on the Sauna altogether.> >>> > > >> >>> > > > I've been seeing how our group has been morphing lately from one> >>> that keeps> >>> > > personal chit chat to a

minimum and focuses mostly on treating lyme> >>> to one that> >>> > > includes more personal off topic discussions and less about lyme. So> >>> I wanted> >>> > > to ask you all, What kind of group do you want? Because i'm not sure> >>> we can> >>> > > have both.> >>> > > >> >>> > > > In a group that is mostly lyme information focused there seems to> >>> be higher> >>> > > quality information shared and new members feel less intimidated to> >>> join into> >>> > > the discussion. And in a group where we act like old friends and feel> >>> free to> >>> > > talk about many things non lyme related we find more emotional> >>> support, which is> >>> >

> just as important, but we can come across more cliche-ish,> >>> discouraging some new> >>> > > members from joining the discussion and asking their questions. I> >>> guess I have> >>> > > always wanted our group to be a place where sick new members can find> >>> informed> >>> > > people willing to help and not have to sort through Off Topic posts> >>> that exhaust> >>> > > their precious little energy. I'm probably not the only one who has> >>> noticed> >>> > > that we get very few new members asking questions anymore. And that> >>> to me is a> >>> > > tragedy because there are so many wonderful people here who could> >>> offer helpful> >>> > > suggestions. And it seems its those new

questions from members that> >>> spurs the> >>> > > very best lyme discussion.> >>> > > >> >>> > > > I want to reassure you that though I am the moderator of this> >>> group, it is> >>> > > YOUR group, and its you who choose what you want from it. I am fine> >>> with it> >>> > > staying the smaller closer nit group we have now that enjoys the> >>> freedom of> >>> > > talking about a whole variety of issues if thats what you want, but> >>> just so> >>> > > people understand that its discouraging some new members from joining> >>> the> >>> > > discussion.> >>> > > >> >>> > > > I of course still boast we've got the best group on the

net! > >>> > > >> >>> > > > Thane> >>> > > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > > Tue Jan 12, 2010 8:16 am> >>> > >> >>> > > Show Message Option> >>> > >> >>> > > "malindabross" <malindabross@ ...>> >>> > > malindabrossÂÂ> >>> > > OfflineÂÂ> >>> > > Send EmailÂÂ> >>> > >> >>> >> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> ------------ --------- --------- ------> >>>> >>> If your post is not about electronic devices used in the treatment

of> >>> Lyme then please put an OT: in the subject line.> >>>> >>> ------------ --------- --------- -> >>>