Re: Very Unusual Symptom (please need help)

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Greg, greg, greg, Nobody is going to help you. You HAVE to help yourself. You've been given lots of advice - you said you greatly appreciated it - so have you acted upon all the advice that was so generously given to you? Klaragxpark1234 wrote: About 2 years ago, my right eye and left eye started to make cracking noises all the sudden while i was smoking marijuana and I thought "wow , i didnt know eyes could make this noise." Later on that day, I looked in the mirror and noticed my right eye got lifted upward and got bigger than my left eye.. And my left eye looked like it kinda got pulled down and smaller.. Im not really sure what happened but i feel very imbalanced and out of touch with myself... My life is totally gone.. I cant act or

feel like myself anymore , i dunno why.. Since then Ive seen 4 opthamologists, 1 neuro-opthamologist with 2 mri's done, and all the doctors said they cant find anything wrong... Ive also quit marijuana 1 year ago, and noticed some improvement but i can still make my eyes crack if i tilt my head or turn my head.. I have a feeling this happened because I was smoking marijuana and thinking very very hard about something and i remember it very clearly..This has really destroyed my life and nobody is able to help.. any advice or path would be greatly appreciated..P.S. I live in Minnesota.. Thank you .. so much

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ok.. im sorry.. thanksKlara LeVine wrote: Greg, greg, greg, Nobody is going to help you. You HAVE to help yourself. You've been given lots of advice - you said you greatly appreciated it - so have you acted upon all the advice that was so generously given to you? Klaragxpark1234 wrote: About 2 years ago, my right eye and left eye started to make cracking noises all the sudden while i was smoking marijuana and I thought "wow , i didnt know eyes could make this noise." Later on that day, I looked in the mirror and noticed my right eye got lifted upward and got bigger than my left eye.. And my left

eye looked like it kinda got pulled down and smaller.. Im not really sure what happened but i feel very imbalanced and out of touch with myself... My life is totally gone.. I cant act or feel like myself anymore , i dunno why.. Since then Ive seen 4 opthamologists, 1 neuro-opthamologist with 2 mri's done, and all the doctors said they cant find anything wrong... Ive also quit marijuana 1 year ago, and noticed some improvement but i can still make my eyes crack if i tilt my head or turn my head.. I have a feeling this happened because I was smoking marijuana and thinking very very hard about something and i remember it very clearly..This has really destroyed my life and nobody is able to help.. any advice or path would be greatly appreciated..P.S. I live in Minnesota.. Thank you .. so much Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2¢/min or less.

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I " m sorry for your problems.

I have heard of people taking bad acid trips and then never coming

back from them. You may have hit the point of no return. I wonder

why you waited year after realizing to quit smoking but it's better

than never.

You don't say if you're mb if you're had consultations or anything

like that.

>

> About 2 years ago, my right eye and left eye started to make

cracking

> noises all the sudden while i was smoking marijuana and I

> thought " wow , i didnt know eyes could make this noise. " Later on

that

> day, I looked in the mirror and noticed my right eye got lifted

upward

> and got bigger than my left eye.. And my left eye looked like it

kinda

> got pulled down and smaller.. Im not really sure what happened but

i

> feel very imbalanced and out of touch with myself... My life is

> totally gone.. I cant act or feel like myself anymore , i dunno

why..

> Since then Ive seen 4 opthamologists, 1 neuro-opthamologist with 2

> mri's done, and all the doctors said they cant find anything

wrong...

> Ive also quit marijuana 1 year ago, and noticed some improvement

but i

> can still make my eyes crack if i tilt my head or turn my head.. I

> have a feeling this happened because I was smoking marijuana and

> thinking very very hard about something and i remember it very

> clearly..This has really destroyed my life and nobody is able to

> help.. any advice or path would be greatly appreciated..P.S. I

live in

> Minnesota.. Thank you .. so much

>

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i'm confused by these emails. klara's response seems rude, and i

know that she is not usually rude. i don't recognize greg's email or

his question...maybe klara could explain her response so that others

are not discouraged from asking questions?

--- purpleveg wrote:

> Hmmmmm didn't realize that.......... well?

>

>

> > About 2 years ago, my right eye and left eye started to make

> cracking

> > noises all the sudden while i was smoking marijuana and I

> > thought " wow , i didnt know eyes could make this noise. " Later on

>

> that

> > day, I looked in the mirror and noticed my right eye got lifted

> upward

> > and got bigger than my left eye.. And my left eye looked like it

> kinda

> > got pulled down and smaller.. Im not really sure what happened

> but

> i

> > feel very imbalanced and out of touch with myself... My life is

> > totally gone.. I cant act or feel like myself anymore , i dunno

> why..

> > Since then Ive seen 4 opthamologists, 1 neuro-opthamologist with

> 2

> > mri's done, and all the doctors said they cant find anything

> wrong...

> > Ive also quit marijuana 1 year ago, and noticed some improvement

> but i

> > can still make my eyes crack if i tilt my head or turn my head..

> I

> > have a feeling this happened because I was smoking marijuana and

> > thinking very very hard about something and i remember it very

> > clearly..This has really destroyed my life and nobody is able to

> > help.. any advice or path would be greatly appreciated..P.S. I

> live in

> > Minnesota.. Thank you .. so much

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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Greg has posted to cybermacro and most other macro yahoo groups and curezone

(I believe) and received very good information and generous help. I think

Klara is just a bit frustrated that he keeps asking for help but doesn't

seem to want to follow through to make himself well.

Re: Re: Very Unusual Symptom (please need help)

> i'm confused by these emails. klara's response seems rude, and i

> know that she is not usually rude. i don't recognize greg's email or

> his question...maybe klara could explain her response so that others

> are not discouraged from asking questions?

>

> --- purpleveg wrote:

>

>> Hmmmmm didn't realize that.......... well?

>>

>>

>> > About 2 years ago, my right eye and left eye started to make

>> cracking

>> > noises all the sudden while i was smoking marijuana and I

>> > thought " wow , i didnt know eyes could make this noise. " Later on

>>

>> that

>> > day, I looked in the mirror and noticed my right eye got lifted

>> upward

>> > and got bigger than my left eye.. And my left eye looked like it

>> kinda

>> > got pulled down and smaller.. Im not really sure what happened

>> but

>> i

>> > feel very imbalanced and out of touch with myself... My life is

>> > totally gone.. I cant act or feel like myself anymore , i dunno

>> why..

>> > Since then Ive seen 4 opthamologists, 1 neuro-opthamologist with

>> 2

>> > mri's done, and all the doctors said they cant find anything

>> wrong...

>> > Ive also quit marijuana 1 year ago, and noticed some improvement

>> but i

>> > can still make my eyes crack if i tilt my head or turn my head..

>> I

>> > have a feeling this happened because I was smoking marijuana and

>> > thinking very very hard about something and i remember it very

>> > clearly..This has really destroyed my life and nobody is able to

>> > help.. any advice or path would be greatly appreciated..P.S. I

>> live in

>> > Minnesota.. Thank you .. so much

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

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thanks for the clarification! i figured it was something like that,

but just thought it should be explained to the rest of us! sarah

--- seigman wrote:

> Greg has posted to cybermacro and most other macro yahoo groups and

> curezone

> (I believe) and received very good information and generous help.

> I think

> Klara is just a bit frustrated that he keeps asking for help but

> doesn't

> seem to want to follow through to make himself well.

>

>

>

>

> Re: Re: Very Unusual Symptom (please

> need help)

>

>

> > i'm confused by these emails. klara's response seems rude, and i

> > know that she is not usually rude. i don't recognize greg's

> email or

> > his question...maybe klara could explain her response so that

> others

> > are not discouraged from asking questions?

> >

> > --- purpleveg wrote:

> >

> >> Hmmmmm didn't realize that.......... well?

> >>

> >>

> >> > About 2 years ago, my right eye and left eye started to make

> >> cracking

> >> > noises all the sudden while i was smoking marijuana and I

> >> > thought " wow , i didnt know eyes could make this noise. " Later

> on

> >>

> >> that

> >> > day, I looked in the mirror and noticed my right eye got

> lifted

> >> upward

> >> > and got bigger than my left eye.. And my left eye looked like

> it

> >> kinda

> >> > got pulled down and smaller.. Im not really sure what happened

> >> but

> >> i

> >> > feel very imbalanced and out of touch with myself... My life

> is

> >> > totally gone.. I cant act or feel like myself anymore , i

> dunno

> >> why..

> >> > Since then Ive seen 4 opthamologists, 1 neuro-opthamologist

> with

> >> 2

> >> > mri's done, and all the doctors said they cant find anything

> >> wrong...

> >> > Ive also quit marijuana 1 year ago, and noticed some

> improvement

> >> but i

> >> > can still make my eyes crack if i tilt my head or turn my

> head..

> >> I

> >> > have a feeling this happened because I was smoking marijuana

> and

> >> > thinking very very hard about something and i remember it very

> >> > clearly..This has really destroyed my life and nobody is able

> to

> >> > help.. any advice or path would be greatly appreciated..P.S. I

> >> live in

> >> > Minnesota.. Thank you .. so much

> >> >

> >> >

> >> >

> >> >

> >> >

> >> >

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Thanks . My apologies . Actually, I'd written him almost the same message privately when he wanted to post on my site, and he didn't seem to be upset with what I wrote. But I did feel badly. He was on 's chat, and contacted me to say hi, and I apologized to him, and again he seemed to take it so well. And it was only after all this that it hit me, that even with myself, I am told things, I "know" things intellectually and still I don't do all that I know. I guess that's why I need these kinds of groups, and that's why I started a local group. I'm not an expert in learning, or psychiatry, but for sure change is very difficult and very challenging. It's so darn easy to tell someone else, come on, do it already. That was judgmental on my part, and again, Greg, I do apologize. Some people have very strong motivation for change and can adapt to new ways quicker. Some are fortunate to be under the influence of amazing

teachers. But I think for the majority, it's a long hard struggle - and we're all here to help each other stay afloat and keep going. And even tho we may be given great advice, sometimes we do have to hear the message again, and again, and again............ Talking about messages, , the chat with Briscoe was very informative. He has peeved my interest and I've changed my mind and will be trying his e-course. I too still have lots to learn. Greg, I have to give you credit for finding all the sites, and you figured out the sounds in the chat. No question you have a good brain, and yes I believe you are in distress - but just keep putting one foot in front of the other, one bite of brown rice after the other - realize mb is not instant - it can be a very long process, which you can help by going over and over the suggestions given to you, and trying them on for size (which can sometimes mean a long time period). Again, the best of

luck to you. Klara btw, I told Greg privately I am one of those who also is a very slow learner - but as we have discussed on this group, the important thing is to accept ourselves wherever we are, then it's not so much a "struggle" but more of a fun game.sarah nelsen wrote: thanks for the clarification! i figured it was something like that,but just thought it should be explained to the rest of us! sarah--- seigman wrote:> Greg has posted to cybermacro and most other macro yahoo groups and> curezone > (I believe) and received very good information and generous help. > I think > Klara is just a bit frustrated that he keeps asking for help but> doesn't > seem to want to follow through to make

himself well.> > > > > Re: Re: Very Unusual Symptom (please> need help)> > > > i'm confused by these emails. klara's response seems rude, and i> > know that she is not usually rude. i don't recognize greg's> email or> > his question...maybe klara could explain her response so that> others> > are not discouraged from asking questions?> >> > --- purpleveg wrote:> >> >> Hmmmmm didn't realize that.......... well?> >>> >> > >> > About 2 years ago, my right eye and left eye started to make> >> cracking> >> > noises all the sudden while i was smoking marijuana and I> >> > thought "wow , i didnt know eyes could make this noise." Later> on> >>> >> that> >> > day, I looked in the mirror and noticed my right eye got> lifted> >> upward>

>> > and got bigger than my left eye.. And my left eye looked like> it> >> kinda> >> > got pulled down and smaller.. Im not really sure what happened> >> but> >> i> >> > feel very imbalanced and out of touch with myself... My life> is> >> > totally gone.. I cant act or feel like myself anymore , i> dunno> >> why..> >> > Since then Ive seen 4 opthamologists, 1 neuro-opthamologist> with> >> 2> >> > mri's done, and all the doctors said they cant find anything> >> wrong...> >> > Ive also quit marijuana 1 year ago, and noticed some> improvement> >> but i> >> > can still make my eyes crack if i tilt my head or turn my> head..> >> I> >> > have a feeling this happened because I was smoking

marijuana> and> >> > thinking very very hard about something and i remember it very> >> > clearly..This has really destroyed my life and nobody is able> to> >> > help.. any advice or path would be greatly appreciated..P.S. I> >> live in> >> > Minnesota.. Thank you .. so much> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >

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Thanks for understanding.. if i were in ur situation.. i would probably be annoyed with myself also..no hard feelings .. i am suffering and i guess my nature is to keep trying and not giving up but i know i sound really obsessvie.. sorry about that.. well thanks for the help so far.. peace.Klara LeVine wrote: Thanks . My apologies . Actually, I'd written him almost the same message privately when he wanted to post on my site, and he didn't seem to be upset with what I wrote. But I did feel badly. He was on 's chat, and contacted me to say hi, and I apologized to him, and again he seemed to take it so well. And it was only after all this that it hit me, that even with myself, I am told things, I "know" things intellectually and still I don't do all that I know. I

guess that's why I need these kinds of groups, and that's why I started a local group. I'm not an expert in learning, or psychiatry, but for sure change is very difficult and very challenging. It's so darn easy to tell someone else, come on, do it already. That was judgmental on my part, and again, Greg, I do apologize. Some people have very strong motivation for change and can adapt to new ways quicker. Some are fortunate to be under the influence of amazing teachers. But I think for the majority, it's a long hard struggle - and we're all here to help each other stay afloat and keep going. And even tho we may be given great advice, sometimes we do have to hear the message again, and again, and again............ Talking about messages, , the chat with Briscoe was very informative. He has peeved my interest and I've changed my mind and will be trying his e-course. I too still have lots to learn. Greg, I have to give you

credit for finding all the sites, and you figured out the sounds in the chat. No question you have a good brain, and yes I believe you are in distress - but just keep putting one foot in front of the other, one bite of brown rice after the other - realize mb is not instant - it can be a very long process, which you can help by going over and over the suggestions given to you, and trying them on for size (which can sometimes mean a long time period). Again, the best of luck to you. Klara btw, I told Greg privately I am one of those who also is a very slow learner - but as we have discussed on this group, the important thing is to accept ourselves wherever we are, then it's not so much a "struggle" but more of a fun game.sarah nelsen wrote: thanks for the clarification! i figured it

was something like that,but just thought it should be explained to the rest of us! sarah--- seigman wrote:> Greg has posted to cybermacro and most other macro yahoo groups and> curezone > (I believe) and received very good information and generous help. > I think > Klara is just a bit frustrated that he keeps asking for help but> doesn't > seem to want to follow through to make himself well.> > > > > Re: Re: Very Unusual Symptom (please> need help)> > > > i'm confused by these emails. klara's response seems rude, and i> > know that she is not usually rude. i don't

recognize greg's> email or> > his question...maybe klara could explain her response so that> others> > are not discouraged from asking questions?> >> > --- purpleveg wrote:> >> >> Hmmmmm didn't realize that.......... well?> >>> >> > >> > About 2 years ago, my right eye and left eye started to make> >> cracking> >> > noises all the sudden while i was smoking marijuana and I> >> > thought "wow , i didnt know eyes could make this noise." Later> on> >>> >> that> >> > day, I looked in the mirror and noticed my right eye got> lifted> >> upward> >> > and got bigger than my left eye.. And my left eye looked like> it> >> kinda> >> > got pulled down and smaller.. Im not really sure what happened> >> but> >> i> >> > feel very imbalanced and out of touch with myself... My life> is> >> > totally gone.. I cant act or feel like myself anymore , i> dunno> >> why..> >> > Since then Ive seen 4

opthamologists, 1 neuro-opthamologist> with> >> 2> >> > mri's done, and all the doctors said they cant find anything> >> wrong...> >> > Ive also quit marijuana 1 year ago, and noticed some> improvement> >> but i> >> > can still make my eyes crack if i tilt my head or turn my> head..> >> I> >> > have a feeling this happened because I was smoking marijuana> and> >> > thinking very very hard about something and i remember it very> >> > clearly..This has really destroyed my life and nobody is able> to> >> > help.. any advice or path would be greatly appreciated..P.S. I> >> live in> >> > Minnesota.. Thank you .. so much> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>

>

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Thanks for understanding.. if i were in ur situation.. i would probably be annoyed with myself also..no hard feelings .. i am suffering and i guess my nature is to keep trying and not giving up but i know i sound really obsessvie.. sorry about that.. well thanks for the help so far.. peace.Klara LeVine wrote: Thanks . My apologies . Actually, I'd written him almost the same message privately when he wanted to post on my site, and he didn't seem to be upset with what I wrote. But I did feel badly. He was on 's chat, and contacted me to say hi, and I apologized to him, and again he seemed to take it so well. And it was only after all this that it hit me, that even with myself, I am told things, I "know" things intellectually and still I don't do all that I know. I

guess that's why I need these kinds of groups, and that's why I started a local group. I'm not an expert in learning, or psychiatry, but for sure change is very difficult and very challenging. It's so darn easy to tell someone else, come on, do it already. That was judgmental on my part, and again, Greg, I do apologize. Some people have very strong motivation for change and can adapt to new ways quicker. Some are fortunate to be under the influence of amazing teachers. But I think for the majority, it's a long hard struggle - and we're all here to help each other stay afloat and keep going. And even tho we may be given great advice, sometimes we do have to hear the message again, and again, and again............ Talking about messages, , the chat with Briscoe was very informative. He has peeved my interest and I've changed my mind and will be trying his e-course. I too still have lots to learn. Greg, I have to give you

credit for finding all the sites, and you figured out the sounds in the chat. No question you have a good brain, and yes I believe you are in distress - but just keep putting one foot in front of the other, one bite of brown rice after the other - realize mb is not instant - it can be a very long process, which you can help by going over and over the suggestions given to you, and trying them on for size (which can sometimes mean a long time period). Again, the best of luck to you. Klara btw, I told Greg privately I am one of those who also is a very slow learner - but as we have discussed on this group, the important thing is to accept ourselves wherever we are, then it's not so much a "struggle" but more of a fun game.sarah nelsen wrote: thanks for the clarification! i figured it

was something like that,but just thought it should be explained to the rest of us! sarah--- seigman wrote:> Greg has posted to cybermacro and most other macro yahoo groups and> curezone > (I believe) and received very good information and generous help. > I think > Klara is just a bit frustrated that he keeps asking for help but> doesn't > seem to want to follow through to make himself well.> > > > > Re: Re: Very Unusual Symptom (please> need help)> > > > i'm confused by these emails. klara's response seems rude, and i> > know that she is not usually rude. i don't

recognize greg's> email or> > his question...maybe klara could explain her response so that> others> > are not discouraged from asking questions?> >> > --- purpleveg wrote:> >> >> Hmmmmm didn't realize that.......... well?> >>> >> > >> > About 2 years ago, my right eye and left eye started to make> >> cracking> >> > noises all the sudden while i was smoking marijuana and I> >> > thought "wow , i didnt know eyes could make this noise." Later> on> >>> >> that> >> > day, I looked in the mirror and noticed my right eye got> lifted> >> upward> >> > and got bigger than my left eye.. And my left eye looked like> it> >> kinda> >> > got pulled down and smaller.. Im not really sure what happened> >> but> >> i> >> > feel very imbalanced and out of touch with myself... My life> is> >> > totally gone.. I cant act or feel like myself anymore , i> dunno> >> why..> >> > Since then Ive seen 4

opthamologists, 1 neuro-opthamologist> with> >> 2> >> > mri's done, and all the doctors said they cant find anything> >> wrong...> >> > Ive also quit marijuana 1 year ago, and noticed some> improvement> >> but i> >> > can still make my eyes crack if i tilt my head or turn my> head..> >> I> >> > have a feeling this happened because I was smoking marijuana> and> >> > thinking very very hard about something and i remember it very> >> > clearly..This has really destroyed my life and nobody is able> to> >> > help.. any advice or path would be greatly appreciated..P.S. I> >> live in> >> > Minnesota.. Thank you .. so much> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>

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