Re: Larger head - due to edema

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On that same line -- my son's NT cousins have slightly larger than normal heads. The hats attached to their coats are just a little too small for them. Sometimes, the larger head may be just a genetic trait and not as a result of autism.gdread@... wrote: Just another take on the larger head discussion: All the males on my husband's side of the family have larger heads w/a very high forehead area similar to a receding hairline only they all had it since childhood

and never had any significant hairloss . All of them exhibit (or exhibited, if deceased) very autism/asperger's spectrum traits and have very scientific/mathemical minds. Some have also experienced depression and possibly even bipolar. My ASD son also has this physical "head" trait. So I think, at least in our case, there may be something genetic to it as well.DR-------------- Original message ----------------------From: "Stan Kurtz" <stankurtzgmail>> Hello Natasa,> > That's correct. And why is there more water there?> > - Stan> > > >> > Hi from

Sue,> > My 25 yr old son with Bipolar, ADHD, Mild CP, (borderline Autistic> when younger), Mild Tourette & rocking, severe LD's also has Static> Hydrocephalus...--- that's why his head is LARGE. When he was about 8> yrs old his psychiatrist had an MRI done since he had an abnormal EEG.> The MRI picked up the Static Hydrocephalus.... ( enlarged ventricles> with fluid)... No need for shunting as it was static. A second MRI was> done during his second psychiatric hospitalization when he was 13... (> for severe aggression)...> > that's when the bipolar was confirmed and subsequently treated. The> hydrocephalus had not changed from the original MRI.> > He now receives supported living services from an ALTA regional agency> & lives in a normal apt. . ... and works at a bowling center part time> every day.> > I'm paid by the county ( IHSS) 3

afternoons to work for him ( still> can't do grooming hand and foot care... needs helps with laundry, & > certain apt. upkeep & can NOT drive)... also has a paid roommate & > section 8 housing.. We've been blessed!> > There is a light at the end of the tunnel!> > -Sue> >>

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On that same line -- my son's NT cousins have slightly larger than normal heads. The hats attached to their coats are just a little too small for them. Sometimes, the larger head may be just a genetic trait and not as a result of autism.gdread@... wrote: Just another take on the larger head discussion: All the males on my husband's side of the family have larger heads w/a very high forehead area similar to a receding hairline only they all had it since childhood

and never had any significant hairloss . All of them exhibit (or exhibited, if deceased) very autism/asperger's spectrum traits and have very scientific/mathemical minds. Some have also experienced depression and possibly even bipolar. My ASD son also has this physical "head" trait. So I think, at least in our case, there may be something genetic to it as well.DR-------------- Original message ----------------------From: "Stan Kurtz" <stankurtzgmail>> Hello Natasa,> > That's correct. And why is there more water there?> > - Stan> > > >> > Hi from

Sue,> > My 25 yr old son with Bipolar, ADHD, Mild CP, (borderline Autistic> when younger), Mild Tourette & rocking, severe LD's also has Static> Hydrocephalus...--- that's why his head is LARGE. When he was about 8> yrs old his psychiatrist had an MRI done since he had an abnormal EEG.> The MRI picked up the Static Hydrocephalus.... ( enlarged ventricles> with fluid)... No need for shunting as it was static. A second MRI was> done during his second psychiatric hospitalization when he was 13... (> for severe aggression)...> > that's when the bipolar was confirmed and subsequently treated. The> hydrocephalus had not changed from the original MRI.> > He now receives supported living services from an ALTA regional agency> & lives in a normal apt. . ... and works at a bowling center part time> every day.> > I'm paid by the county ( IHSS) 3

afternoons to work for him ( still> can't do grooming hand and foot care... needs helps with laundry, & > certain apt. upkeep & can NOT drive)... also has a paid roommate & > section 8 housing.. We've been blessed!> > There is a light at the end of the tunnel!> > -Sue> >>

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On that same line -- my son's NT cousins have slightly larger than normal heads. The hats attached to their coats are just a little too small for them. Sometimes, the larger head may be just a genetic trait and not as a result of autism.gdread@... wrote: Just another take on the larger head discussion: All the males on my husband's side of the family have larger heads w/a very high forehead area similar to a receding hairline only they all had it since childhood

and never had any significant hairloss . All of them exhibit (or exhibited, if deceased) very autism/asperger's spectrum traits and have very scientific/mathemical minds. Some have also experienced depression and possibly even bipolar. My ASD son also has this physical "head" trait. So I think, at least in our case, there may be something genetic to it as well.DR-------------- Original message ----------------------From: "Stan Kurtz" <stankurtzgmail>> Hello Natasa,> > That's correct. And why is there more water there?> > - Stan> > > >> > Hi from

Sue,> > My 25 yr old son with Bipolar, ADHD, Mild CP, (borderline Autistic> when younger), Mild Tourette & rocking, severe LD's also has Static> Hydrocephalus...--- that's why his head is LARGE. When he was about 8> yrs old his psychiatrist had an MRI done since he had an abnormal EEG.> The MRI picked up the Static Hydrocephalus.... ( enlarged ventricles> with fluid)... No need for shunting as it was static. A second MRI was> done during his second psychiatric hospitalization when he was 13... (> for severe aggression)...> > that's when the bipolar was confirmed and subsequently treated. The> hydrocephalus had not changed from the original MRI.> > He now receives supported living services from an ALTA regional agency> & lives in a normal apt. . ... and works at a bowling center part time> every day.> > I'm paid by the county ( IHSS) 3

afternoons to work for him ( still> can't do grooming hand and foot care... needs helps with laundry, & > certain apt. upkeep & can NOT drive)... also has a paid roommate & > section 8 housing.. We've been blessed!> > There is a light at the end of the tunnel!> > -Sue> >>

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On that same line -- my son's NT cousins have slightly larger than normal heads. The hats attached to their coats are just a little too small for them. Sometimes, the larger head may be just a genetic trait and not as a result of autism.gdread@... wrote: Just another take on the larger head discussion: All the males on my husband's side of the family have larger heads w/a very high forehead area similar to a receding hairline only they all had it since childhood

and never had any significant hairloss . All of them exhibit (or exhibited, if deceased) very autism/asperger's spectrum traits and have very scientific/mathemical minds. Some have also experienced depression and possibly even bipolar. My ASD son also has this physical "head" trait. So I think, at least in our case, there may be something genetic to it as well.DR-------------- Original message ----------------------From: "Stan Kurtz" <stankurtzgmail>> Hello Natasa,> > That's correct. And why is there more water there?> > - Stan> > > >> > Hi from

Sue,> > My 25 yr old son with Bipolar, ADHD, Mild CP, (borderline Autistic> when younger), Mild Tourette & rocking, severe LD's also has Static> Hydrocephalus...--- that's why his head is LARGE. When he was about 8> yrs old his psychiatrist had an MRI done since he had an abnormal EEG.> The MRI picked up the Static Hydrocephalus.... ( enlarged ventricles> with fluid)... No need for shunting as it was static. A second MRI was> done during his second psychiatric hospitalization when he was 13... (> for severe aggression)...> > that's when the bipolar was confirmed and subsequently treated. The> hydrocephalus had not changed from the original MRI.> > He now receives supported living services from an ALTA regional agency> & lives in a normal apt. . ... and works at a bowling center part time> every day.> > I'm paid by the county ( IHSS) 3

afternoons to work for him ( still> can't do grooming hand and foot care... needs helps with laundry, & > certain apt. upkeep & can NOT drive)... also has a paid roommate & > section 8 housing.. We've been blessed!> > There is a light at the end of the tunnel!> > -Sue> >>

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On that same line -- my son's NT cousins have slightly larger than normal heads. The hats attached to their coats are just a little too small for them. Sometimes, the larger head may be just a genetic trait and not as a result of autism.gdread@... wrote: Just another take on the larger head discussion: All the males on my husband's side of the family have larger heads w/a very high forehead area similar to a receding hairline only they all had it since childhood

and never had any significant hairloss . All of them exhibit (or exhibited, if deceased) very autism/asperger's spectrum traits and have very scientific/mathemical minds. Some have also experienced depression and possibly even bipolar. My ASD son also has this physical "head" trait. So I think, at least in our case, there may be something genetic to it as well.DR-------------- Original message ----------------------From: "Stan Kurtz" <stankurtzgmail>> Hello Natasa,> > That's correct. And why is there more water there?> > - Stan> > > >> > Hi from

Sue,> > My 25 yr old son with Bipolar, ADHD, Mild CP, (borderline Autistic> when younger), Mild Tourette & rocking, severe LD's also has Static> Hydrocephalus...--- that's why his head is LARGE. When he was about 8> yrs old his psychiatrist had an MRI done since he had an abnormal EEG.> The MRI picked up the Static Hydrocephalus.... ( enlarged ventricles> with fluid)... No need for shunting as it was static. A second MRI was> done during his second psychiatric hospitalization when he was 13... (> for severe aggression)...> > that's when the bipolar was confirmed and subsequently treated. The> hydrocephalus had not changed from the original MRI.> > He now receives supported living services from an ALTA regional agency> & lives in a normal apt. . ... and works at a bowling center part time> every day.> > I'm paid by the county ( IHSS) 3

afternoons to work for him ( still> can't do grooming hand and foot care... needs helps with laundry, & > certain apt. upkeep & can NOT drive)... also has a paid roommate & > section 8 housing.. We've been blessed!> > There is a light at the end of the tunnel!> > -Sue> >>

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On that same line -- my son's NT cousins have slightly larger than normal heads. The hats attached to their coats are just a little too small for them. Sometimes, the larger head may be just a genetic trait and not as a result of autism.gdread@... wrote: Just another take on the larger head discussion: All the males on my husband's side of the family have larger heads w/a very high forehead area similar to a receding hairline only they all had it since childhood

and never had any significant hairloss . All of them exhibit (or exhibited, if deceased) very autism/asperger's spectrum traits and have very scientific/mathemical minds. Some have also experienced depression and possibly even bipolar. My ASD son also has this physical "head" trait. So I think, at least in our case, there may be something genetic to it as well.DR-------------- Original message ----------------------From: "Stan Kurtz" <stankurtzgmail>> Hello Natasa,> > That's correct. And why is there more water there?> > - Stan> > > >> > Hi from

Sue,> > My 25 yr old son with Bipolar, ADHD, Mild CP, (borderline Autistic> when younger), Mild Tourette & rocking, severe LD's also has Static> Hydrocephalus...--- that's why his head is LARGE. When he was about 8> yrs old his psychiatrist had an MRI done since he had an abnormal EEG.> The MRI picked up the Static Hydrocephalus.... ( enlarged ventricles> with fluid)... No need for shunting as it was static. A second MRI was> done during his second psychiatric hospitalization when he was 13... (> for severe aggression)...> > that's when the bipolar was confirmed and subsequently treated. The> hydrocephalus had not changed from the original MRI.> > He now receives supported living services from an ALTA regional agency> & lives in a normal apt. . ... and works at a bowling center part time> every day.> > I'm paid by the county ( IHSS) 3

afternoons to work for him ( still> can't do grooming hand and foot care... needs helps with laundry, & > certain apt. upkeep & can NOT drive)... also has a paid roommate & > section 8 housing.. We've been blessed!> > There is a light at the end of the tunnel!> > -Sue> >>

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On that same line -- my son's NT cousins have slightly larger than normal heads. The hats attached to their coats are just a little too small for them. Sometimes, the larger head may be just a genetic trait and not as a result of autism.gdread@... wrote: Just another take on the larger head discussion: All the males on my husband's side of the family have larger heads w/a very high forehead area similar to a receding hairline only they all had it since childhood

and never had any significant hairloss . All of them exhibit (or exhibited, if deceased) very autism/asperger's spectrum traits and have very scientific/mathemical minds. Some have also experienced depression and possibly even bipolar. My ASD son also has this physical "head" trait. So I think, at least in our case, there may be something genetic to it as well.DR-------------- Original message ----------------------From: "Stan Kurtz" <stankurtzgmail>> Hello Natasa,> > That's correct. And why is there more water there?> > - Stan> > > >> > Hi from

Sue,> > My 25 yr old son with Bipolar, ADHD, Mild CP, (borderline Autistic> when younger), Mild Tourette & rocking, severe LD's also has Static> Hydrocephalus...--- that's why his head is LARGE. When he was about 8> yrs old his psychiatrist had an MRI done since he had an abnormal EEG.> The MRI picked up the Static Hydrocephalus.... ( enlarged ventricles> with fluid)... No need for shunting as it was static. A second MRI was> done during his second psychiatric hospitalization when he was 13... (> for severe aggression)...> > that's when the bipolar was confirmed and subsequently treated. The> hydrocephalus had not changed from the original MRI.> > He now receives supported living services from an ALTA regional agency> & lives in a normal apt. . ... and works at a bowling center part time> every day.> > I'm paid by the county ( IHSS) 3

afternoons to work for him ( still> can't do grooming hand and foot care... needs helps with laundry, & > certain apt. upkeep & can NOT drive)... also has a paid roommate & > section 8 housing.. We've been blessed!> > There is a light at the end of the tunnel!> > -Sue> >>

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Stan,

I am not one to blame my children's autism solely on genetics and I do agree

with you about fungus and other things being passed down and transmitted. For

instance, I believe my kids got their yeast directly from me having lived in my

womb for nine months, then got their 1st dose of antibiotics via me again

through an IV during birth, followed by Hep B w/in 48 hours of birth. I think

all of that set the stage for a host of problems including reflux, eczema,

sleeplessness, colic, leaky gut and eventually autism.

However, I think there are other kids who experience the same set of

circumstances who may only end up w/colic or asthma. Here is where I do think

genetics can play a role: same yeast, same antibiotics, same toxins but

different outcome.

Perhaps the men in my husband's family would have ended up much lower

functioning if they were exposed to all of the environmental insults that my

kids were. Fortunately, they grew up on farms, inhaled fresh clean, ate a diet

that was largely fresh eggs, veggies, etc. and were never subject to massive

doses of antibiotics or vaccinations as infants or children.

Can you tell I think about this a lot? : )

DR

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> If fungus can be handed down from one generation to the next (and also

sexually

> transmitted, which I strongly believe), how do we really know what's genetic

and

> what is

> just transmitted?

>

> You may be right, but I wonder how much we blame genetics when something just

> might

> be passed from one generation to the next and written off as, " It must be

> genetic. "

>

> - Stan

>

>

> > > >

> > > > Hi from Sue,

> > > > My 25 yr old son with Bipolar, ADHD, Mild CP, (borderline Autistic

> > > when younger), Mild Tourette & rocking, severe LD's also has Static

> > > Hydrocephalus...--- that's why his head is LARGE. When he was about 8

> > > yrs old his psychiatrist had an MRI done since he had an abnormal EEG.

> > > The MRI picked up the Static Hydrocephalus.... ( enlarged ventricles

> > > with fluid)... No need for shunting as it was static. A second MRI was

> > > done during his second psychiatric hospitalization when he was 13... (

> > > for severe aggression)...

> > > > that's when the bipolar was confirmed and subsequently treated. The

> > > hydrocephalus had not changed from the original MRI.

> > > > He now receives supported living services from an ALTA regional agency

> > > & lives in a normal apt. . ... and works at a bowling center part time

> > > every day.

> > > > I'm paid by the county ( IHSS) 3 afternoons to work for him ( still

> > > can't do grooming hand and foot care... needs helps with laundry, &

> > > certain apt. upkeep & can NOT drive)... also has a paid roommate &

> > > section 8 housing.. We've been blessed!

> > > > There is a light at the end of the tunnel!

> > > > -Sue

> > > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

>

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Hi Dana and others from Sue,

Since my 25 yr old son (with the static hydrocephalus, etc.) is adopted.., We probably won't ever know whether large head size runs in the family. His birth Mom used cocaine twice in her first trimester before she knew she was pregnant with him. ( Many people say --most likely it was more times than two..)

She was a chemical engineering student at Sacramento City College and the "assumed" birth father was a close family friend -- one night stand.. but both families were supportive of her pregnancy.

About 1 1/2 years ago we met the assumed birth father as he wrote to my son. The County strongly encouraged them to both have a paternity test...since the birth Mom was sexually active... And lo and behold it turned out to be negative... so devastating for our son... ( and us).. I guess she was SO active... we'll never know...or meet them.

This is the son who never responded well with natural remedies... We tried the Feingold diet, etc.( as I was a science and nutrition teacher --and was originally opposed to meds.)... Nothing we tried helped... until we added meds... And his sensory integration OT's were amazed at how much progress he made when taking meds compared to without them -- during his SI sessions. I even asked them to present a program on Sensory Integration at one of our first CHADD meetings.--( As I was president of the local Roseville and Greater Sacramento chapter--from 1989-95)... He is currently doing well on Abilify, Depakote, Seroquel, and Wellbutrin. (They have been a Godsend for him and us as a family. )

Unfortunately he has no compliance with any oral natural supplementation... but He does allow me to spray liquid Zinc on his head and back when I do His therapeutic SI brushings for him 3 X per week.

My other --21 yr. old biological son and my husband and I HAD used Ritalin and antidepressants very successfully for about 10 years... for our ADD, Depression and Anxiety. Then, in HS, my youngest decided he wanted to go natural as I was seeing energy specialist for allergies,etc. So for the past 6 years the 3 of us are doing very well on natural remedies..as I stated in yesterday's post. Before using the MB12 nasal spray, We used amino acid therapy from the Ross book series --THE DIET CURE and her sequel THE MOOD CURE... My 21 yr. old son became stable on EMPower Plus from www.truehope.com ( talked about in Nutrients Quiet the Unquiet Brain by Moyer.) Now he is recovered due to chelation from neuromodulation techniques, colon hydrotherapy, excellent food choices and supplements and is currently "Buyer" of the Auburn Sunrise Natural Foods store.

I wanted to share these experiences since we definitely found that different strokes for different folks apply and I don't want anyone to feel bad if meds are part of their recovery. While I am thrilled to find natural solutions to 3 out of 4 persons in our family,

(and would love to see my 25 yr. old find natural solutions), many factors need to be considered. Willingness, and the cognitive ability to carry out a natural program is essential as well as affordability in order to succeed. It is very difficult to live on SSI as my 25 yr. old is doing along with his part time job. Thank God he will have ALTA regional services for a lifetime. Many others who have challenges are not so fortunate. Even my husband and I are wondering how long we can afford all this natural protocol.

That is one reason we look for direct market sale supplementation when we find those that are equivalent or better than found in stores.. at least we have some opportunity to recoup some of the costs to stay well while helping others to do the same.

Hope this helps,

Sue