Guest guest Posted April 10, 2001 Report Share Posted April 10, 2001 Hi On the elemental hair analysis we had done last November, DD did not show high mercury. However, it was over 12 months since her last shots. I have some hair from her first haircut (at about 18 months) and would like to have that tested. How do I go about getting this done? Can I do it privately? TIA Margaret Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 10, 2001 Report Share Posted April 10, 2001 > Hi > > On the elemental hair analysis we had done last November, DD did not show > high mercury. The mercury level is irrelevant. Read the counting rules in the files menu for how to use the hair test. Andy > However, it was over 12 months since her last shots. > > I have some hair from her first haircut (at about 18 months) and would like to > have that tested. How do I go about getting this done? Can I do it > privately? > > TIA > > Marga Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 2001 Report Share Posted April 11, 2001 Margaret, You do it the same way you did the other one. Remember that mercury does not show high on hair analysis as do the other metals. With mercury you need to look at the counting rules (a scatter of highs and lows among the minerals. Mercury becomes so tightly bound in the body that it generally does not show up in the hair. Just curious, does her recent hair analysis show highs in other metals? Although this list originally started to look at mercury, many have discovered high levels of other toxic metals as well. If you care to post the hair analysis results to the list folks here can help you determine whether they fit the counting rules. Please be sure to include the reference ranges and the mineral info. S -------------------------------------------------------------- Hi On the elemental hair analysis we had done last November, DD did not show high mercury. However, it was over 12 months since her last shots. I have some hair from her first haircut (at about 18 months) and would like to have that tested. How do I go about getting this done? Can I do it privately? TIA Margaret *** [This message has been truncated.] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 2001 Report Share Posted April 11, 2001 May I ask for more information on this. I had all my fillings changed between Nov 1999 and Feb 2000. In March I become sick with a multitude of symptoms that would indicate Mercury poisoning. I had a hair analysis done immediately and the reading was .04 (well inside the reference range) Six months later it jumped to 0.14 (into the cautionary range) and cadmium also increased from 0.02 to 0.04 (into the cautionary range). I can only assume this is a result of having my fillings changed. Can anyone help me interpret what happened or point me to some information on interpreting mercury in hair analysis as discussed below. Hal Huggins suggests in his book that Mercury will show up in hair analysis much later on than other indications such as serum blood tests. He also suggests a relationship between Mercury poisoning, calcium, phosphorous and manganese. My hair analysis fitted this relationship perfectly. All indications are that I got thoroughly poisoned but I'm still not 100% sure. Stidolph, North Island, New Zealand pfs1958@... -----Original Message-----From: l_shepard [mailto:l_shepard@...]Sent: Wednesday, 11 April 2001 22:50 Subject: Re:[ ] Hair testMargaret,You do it the same way you did the other one. Remember that mercury does not show high on hair analysis as do the other metals. With mercury you need to look at the counting rules (a scatter of highs and lows among the minerals. Mercury becomes so tightly bound in the body that it generally does not show up in the hair. Just curious, does her recent hair analysis show highs in other metals? Although this list originally started to look at mercury, many have discovered high levels of other toxic metals as well. If you care to post the hair analysis results to the list folks here can help you determine whether they fit the counting rules. Please be sure to include the reference ranges and the mineral info. S --------------------------------------------------------------HiOn the elemental hair analysis we had done last November, DD did not show high mercury. However, it was over 12 months since her last shots.I have some hair from her first haircut (at about 18 months) and would like to have that tested. How do I go about getting this done? Can I do it privately?TIAMargaret***[This message has been truncated.]======================================================= Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 2001 Report Share Posted April 11, 2001 , Did you have a hair analysis done before the amalgam replacement? How did you decide to have the fillings replaced, what symptoms or precautionary? How much experience does your dentist have? Does he or she have a mercury-free practice (not place any amalgam)? The dentist MUST know how to do it properly or it can cause more harm than good. Did your dentist use a rubber dam, a suction hose, and a well ventilated room? Did he or she take them out in sequence of highest negative tooth or quadrant first then recheck the remianing ones? What material di the dentist use to replace them? Did you take any supplements at the time of removal? before? since? Do you have any root canals. Do you have any other metals in the mouth? If one has mercury and gets another metal (even gold) that makes things worse. Did you have urine, stool, or blood work done in March? Recent acute (sudden) exposure (for example if exposed during removal) would likely show on these tests, but not for long, as it settles in the organs and tissues. When you had the fillings in place you had a body burden of toxins so high that your body could not excrete them. Once you had the fillings out, your body burden decreased and your body began to detox. Perhaps you can post your hair analysis results to the list, particularly if you have ones from before filling replacement with which to compare. S On Wed, 11 April 2001, " " wrote: > > <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC " -//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN " > > <HTML><HEAD> > <META http-equiv=Content-Type content= " text/html; charset=us-ascii " > > <META content= " MSHTML 5.50.4134.600 " name=GENERATOR></HEAD> > <BODY> > <DIV><SPAN class=387555521-11042001><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>May I > ask for more information on this. & nbsp; I had all my fillings changed between > Nov 1999 and Feb 2000. In March I become sick with a multitude of symptoms that > would indicate Mercury poisoning. & nbsp; I had a hair analysis done immediately > and the reading was .04 (well inside the reference range) & nbsp; Six months later > it jumped to 0.14 (into the cautionary range) and cadmium also increased from > 0.02 to 0.04 (into the cautionary range). & nbsp; I can only assume this is a > result of having my fillings changed. & nbsp; Can anyone help me interpret what > happened or point me to some information on interpreting mercury in hair > analysis as discussed below. & nbsp; Hal Huggins suggests in his book that Mercury > will show up in hair analysis much later on than other indications such as serum > blood tests. He also suggests a relationship between Mercury poisoning, calcium, > phosphorous and manganese. My hair analysis fitted this relationship > perfectly. & nbsp; All indications are that I got thoroughly poisoned but I'm > still not 100% sure.</FONT></SPAN></DIV> > <DIV><SPAN class=387555521-11042001><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff > size=2></FONT></SPAN> & nbsp;</DIV> > <DIV><SPAN class=387555521-11042001> > <DIV align=left><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff> Stidolph, North Island, New > Zealand</FONT></DIV> > <DIV align=left><FONT face=Arial><A > href= " mailto:pfs1958@... " >pfs1958@...</A></FONT></DIV></SPAN></DIV\ > > <BLOCKQUOTE > style= " PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid " > > <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma > size=2></B> > Re:[ ] Hair test<BR><BR></FONT></DIV><TT>Margaret,<BR>You do it > the same way you did the other one. & nbsp; Remember that mercury does not show > high on hair analysis as do the other metals. & nbsp; With mercury you need to > look at the counting rules (a scatter of highs and lows among the > minerals. & nbsp; Mercury becomes so tightly bound in the body that it generally > does not show up in the hair. & nbsp; Just curious, does her recent hair > analysis show highs in other metals? & nbsp; Although this list originally > started to look at mercury, many have discovered high levels of other toxic > metals as well. & nbsp; If you care to post the hair analysis results to the > list folks here can help you determine whether they fit the counting > rules. & nbsp; Please be sure to include the reference ranges and the mineral > info.<BR> S & nbsp; & nbsp; > <BR>--------------------------------------------------------------<BR>Hi<BR><BR>\ On > the elemental hair analysis we had done last November, DD did not show high > mercury. & nbsp; However, it was over 12 months since her last shots.<BR><BR>I > have some hair from her first haircut (at about 18 months) and would like to > have that tested. & nbsp; How do I go about getting this done? & nbsp; Can I do > it & nbsp; privately?<BR><BR>TIA<BR><BR>Margaret<BR><BR>***<BR>[This message has > been truncated.]<BR></TT><BR><BR><TT>================================================\ =======<BR>Statements > posted on this list are for information only, <BR>and should NOT be taken as > medical advice. & nbsp; If you need <BR>medical advice, you should seek it from > those who are <BR>authorized to give medical advice: doctors. <BR><BR>Post > message: <BR>Subscribe: & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; > -subscribe <BR>Unsubscribe: & nbsp; > -unsubscribe <BR>List owner: & nbsp; & nbsp; > -owner <BR>Shortcut URL: <A > href= " " >grou\ p/ </A></TT> > <BR><BR><TT> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 15, 2001 Report Share Posted April 15, 2001 Answers to your questions between the lines; -----Original Message-----From: l_shepard@... [mailto:l_shepard@...]Sent: Thursday, 12 April 2001 15:43 Subject: RE: [ ] Hair test ,Did you have a hair analysis done before the amalgam replacement? [] No I had them done after the amalgam replacement. Amalgam removal complete Feb, first hair analysis April. How did you decide to have the fillings replaced, what symptoms or precautionary? [] I was advised by a medical professional specialising in this. She has an instrument from Germany which can measure the current between fillings and rate of decay. She said mine was one of the highest she had ever seen (90 micro amps I think??) The top right quadrant fillings were very old, she said they are leaking badly and advised immediate action. How much experience does your dentist have? [] The dentist had some experience. I asked about the procedures, he used a dam and high pressure suction. Does he or she have a mercury-free practice (not place any amalgam)? [] Its not a mercury free practice :-( The dentist MUST know how to do it properly or it can cause more harm than good. Did your dentist use a rubber dam, a suction hose, and a well ventilated room? [] He used the dam on some but not all of the fillings. He used the suction hose but nothing else, no ventilation, oxygen or anything special. He said amalgam wont hurt you. Did he or she take them out in sequence of highest negative tooth or quadrant first then recheck the remianing ones? [] He followed the sequence to some degree but decided to change it part the way through for various reasons. No rechecking was carried out. What material di the dentist use to replace them? [] Diamond CR. Did you take any supplements at the time of removal? [] I took Ayurvedic herbs recommended by the lady who did the testing. She said they would cover the detox if I took some extra selenium. Other then this, I took nothing. When I become sick I started Vit B complex, Vit C, Vit E, Magnesium, Vit A, CQ10, MSG. I have continued with these supplements. I have also taken one course of DMSA. My new dentist (who is mercury free) thinks this might of helped but wants me to take more chelating agents. before? since? Do you have any root canals. Do you have any other metals in the mouth? [] I had a root canal during the amalgam removal ! I think the dentist disturbed the pulp in this tooth and it seemed to go bad. The root canal was the last item to be completed in Feb. I had this done during the filling change. He also discovered another partial root canal (one out of the three roots filled) during his work. I had no idea this was done and discovered later it was done in 1992. He x-rayed and found some evidence of decay at the base of this tooth. To my knowledge I have no other metals in my mouth. If one has mercury and gets another metal (even gold) that makes things worse.Did you have urine, stool, or blood work done in March? [] Yes I had extensive testing. I have the results of all this here and some evidence is present particularly Thyroid TSH. Recent acute (sudden) exposure (for example if exposed during removal) would likely show on these tests, but not for long, as it settles in the organs and tissues. When you had the fillings in place you had a body burden of toxins so high that your body could not excrete them. Once you had the fillings out, your body burden decreased and your body began to detox.Perhaps you can post your hair analysis results to the list, particularly if you have ones from before filling replacement with which to compare.[] I will have them scanned and post. S Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 2, 2001 Report Share Posted May 2, 2001 (answering older mail today) Dear , Please read the " counting rules " file, posted at: /files/Counting%2BRules Andy is basically saying that ALL of the essential minerals are affected by mercury poisoning --- calcium, phosphorus, mangenese --- and all the rest as well. Basically, he is saying that mercury is so consistent at messing with minerals that we can use " messed up minerals " as a way to look for mercury poisoning!!! I hope this is some help. Moria RESPONDING TO: Message: 15 Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 10:06:47 +1200 From: " " <pfs1958@...> Subject: RE: Hair test May I ask for more information on this. I had all my fillings changed between Nov 1999 and Feb 2000. In March I become sick with a multitude of symptoms that would indicate Mercury poisoning. I had a hair analysis done immediately and the reading was .04 (well inside the reference range) Six months later it jumped to 0.14 (into the cautionary range) and cadmium also increased from 0.02 to 0.04 (into the cautionary range). I can only assume this is a result of having my fillings changed. Can anyone help me interpret what happened or point me to some information on interpreting mercury in hair analysis as discussed below. Hal Huggins suggests in his book that Mercury will show up in hair analysis much later on than other indications such as serum blood tests. He also suggests a relationship between Mercury poisoning, calcium, phosphorous and manganese. My hair analysis fitted this relationship perfectly. All indications are that I got thoroughly poisoned but I'm still not 100% sure. Stidolph, North Island, New Zealand pfs1958@... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2001 Report Share Posted May 20, 2001 Is it significant that the total toxic is off the page? Since it's an old hair strand and thus may be full of ressidue from shampoos, hot tub, etc. Also, the Manganes was off the sheet again, as well as magnesium and Copper. Any thoughs? ********** being at the 100 percentile is definately significant. And I would hope you wouldn't expect to find arsenic in shampoos or hot tubs. What were recent arsenic levels? Bernie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2001 Report Share Posted May 20, 2001 Bernie - We don't have any arsenic in our well water, of course. I can't imagine where it would come from. Both hair tests show very high levels (99%) of arsenic. But arsenic poisoning wouldn't cause autistic symptoms, would it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 21, 2001 Report Share Posted May 21, 2001 > Bernie - We don't have any arsenic in our well water, of course. I can't > imagine where it would come from. Both hair tests show very high levels (99%) > of arsenic. But arsenic poisoning wouldn't cause autistic symptoms, would it? It may cause that and is commonly associated with aspergers. Sources of arsenic include ant poisons - especially the really tasty ones which are in little bottles and stakes that are 10% arsenic trioxide mixed into corn syrup - ants like to find sweet treats on the floor almost as much as little children do. Andy > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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