Guest guest Posted March 14, 2006 Report Share Posted March 14, 2006 What is so interesting about this whole banding business is that I am learning more here that I have from my surgeon and dietitian. No one there has ever told me that I should not drink with meals... Interesting! After telling you all that I thought I needed a fill, now that I am on more solids, maybe that is not the case. I am struggling to eat in the evening. I have no problems during the day, its dinner that I now find hard. The last two nights I have eaten a more solid dinner, small amounts etc. All is well until about an hour afterwards and then I feel that I have a blockage... it lasts about 2 hours and then seems to disappear, but it is a very strange feeling. Its not a blockage, and its not a full feeling, its just like the elephant on the chest feeling. Quite odd really ~ maybe not???? Maybe one of you can explain this to me. Mel >> Hi Mel,> > You said in your post ... I was thirsty, but couldn't drink because I was about to eat. Its all very, very strange and it actually doesn't make sense to me this not drinking whilst eating... completely the opposite what I would have thought, but there you go. > > just to clear it up a little for you, you can drink before a meal and up to the meal. The important time not to drink is after a meal so that the fluid doesn't either push the food through the band or even mix with the food so that you bring it up.> > Beverlee> > > ---------------------------------> On Yahoo!7> Desperate Housewives: Sneak peeks, recaps and more.> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2006 Report Share Posted March 14, 2006 Yes Maree... that is exactly what it feels like ~ I think??? LOL... really not sure but I think you have hit the nail on the head. I hardly ate anything for dinner, and I could have eaten more last night, but after Monday night, I was a bit loathe to push my luck. I had been out for lunch, but ate a small corn fritter with smoked salmon... and my lucky friends got the other two to share... and I was still hungry, I just don't want to over do it on my first week on trying solids. Anyway, I had a very small piece of lamb cutlet last night, two mouthfuls at the most, 1 mouthful of sauted mushrooms and a little bit of potato mash. So really, I didn't over do it compared to last week. I might stick to baked beans for dinner for the time being, I love them and they are easy to eat. And... lucky me is out to lunch again today, Yum Cha @ Chatswood... which will be a whole new adventure in food choices in think???? Any advice for that... Thanks Maree... Mel >> Mel,> What you are describing is what I get at night only it lasts even > longer. That is why the Dr. told me yesterday that it is the food > sitting in the pouch. If it's uncomfortable perhaps you are eating a > little too much, not at the evening meal specifically, but perhaps > over the whole day. That's why he wouldn't give me any more fill > because I only eat one meal a day but if that meal was at night, once > I laid down, I was so uncomfortable I couldn't settle down and sleep. > Not actual pain or pbing but real discomfort. Try eating the heavier > meals during the day, even if you have to eat last nights tea at > lunch. I try to eat very light meals at night, maybe an egg or really > small portions. It's definitely the food sitting in the pouch. If it's > causing real pain any given night, try a drink. Lorraine gave me some > sparkling water at the wedding, I got so blocked you would not believe > on soft jubes of all things. I nearly lost it during the ceremony and > got the watering eyes, runny nose, the lot. The sparkles worked a > wonder. Maree> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2006 Report Share Posted March 14, 2006 Hiya Mel You will find that most people do not tolerate a heavy meal at night. I remember a saying from years ago - breakfast like a king, lunch like a prince and dinner like a pauper. That is perhaps better for us if we modify it to how we best tolerate the food during the day. But the dinner like a pauper is what is really suited to us. I remember only having a snack at night, some crackers with dip or pate, cup of soup or even some vegies. You are going to find the juggling act frustrating, but stick with it. Some days you feel like all you are doing is drinking and eating to get enough fluids in and then to eat on top of that. But trust me you are going to be fine. Nx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2006 Report Share Posted March 14, 2006 Hi Mel Personally I think the no fluids at or immediately after meals is right up there as the one of the most important rules of banding. If you do it from the very beginning it becomes a habit and you find ways around making sure you follow it. Eg. I'll always put the waiter off taking my order - particularly a lunch type menu that's quick to the table - until I've received my drink. You know - just give us five minutes we've been too busy talking and haven't looked at the menu yet. And place your drink order when they arrive with the menu, or better still as they are showing you to your seat. Now you are on solids you are becoming aware of what's going on inside. Solids will sit in your pouch for a time, that's what's meant to keep the hunger at bay. Make sure you are chewing plenty, and pause during mouthfuls so you don't overfill the pouch. Staying upright after eating, especially at night, helps with the uncomfortable feeling. Eat a bit earlier if you plan on going to bed early - my bedtimes are often dictated by when the food in the pouch has decided to go south. The baked beans are easier because they're in sauce, you could have a little gravy with your chop but you're not meant to slip into the habit of turning every into soft foods. But gravy and sauces will help a bandster tolerate foods - like meats not maybe they would not able to tolerate otherwise. The rarer the meat the easier as well. You're a family girl Mel like me and I think it is important to still partake in the evening meals with the rest of the guys. I generally eat the same meals - just much smaller portions. Eg last night they had 3 crumbed cutlets, mashed potatoes, carrots and beans. I had one cutlet and mashed potato. Similiar to you. If you're single I believe you can be more flexible with your meals but my advice is don't let your band and eating change precious family meal times. Stick with what your doing Mel - this is a big learning curve you're on and it will become easier with time. You've got your L plates on - it takes a while to graduate to your Ps. Regards Lorraine - In SydBand , " Mel " wrote: > > > > > What is so interesting about this whole banding business is that I am > learning more here that I have from my surgeon and dietitian. No one > there has ever told me that I should not drink with meals... > Interesting! > > After telling you all that I thought I needed a fill, now that I am on > more solids, maybe that is not the case. I am struggling to eat in the > evening. I have no problems during the day, its dinner that I now find > hard. The last two nights I have eaten a more solid dinner, small > amounts etc. All is well until about an hour afterwards and then I feel > that I have a blockage... it lasts about 2 hours and then seems to > disappear, but it is a very strange feeling. Its not a blockage, and > its not a full feeling, its just like the elephant on the chest feeling. > Quite odd really ~ maybe not???? Maybe one of you can explain this to > me. > > Mel > > > > > > > Hi Mel, > > > > You said in your post ... I was thirsty, but couldn't drink because I > was about to eat. Its all very, very strange and it actually doesn't > make sense to me this not drinking whilst eating... completely the > opposite what I would have thought, but there you go. > > > > just to clear it up a little for you, you can drink before a meal and > up to the meal. The important time not to drink is after a meal so that > the fluid doesn't either push the food through the band or even mix with > the food so that you bring it up. > > > > Beverlee > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > On Yahoo!7 > > Desperate Housewives: Sneak peeks, recaps and more. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2006 Report Share Posted March 14, 2006 HI Mel, Just thought I would add my 2 cents worth. Lamb cutlets or chops or roast is no longer possible for me to eat in any amount.......booooohoooooo...as roast lamb is my very favourite meal. I am unable to chew the meat enough to make it "band friendly" and I always end up Pb'ing it back....now I chew & spit out, rather than swallow - I still get the yummy taste, without the pain afterwards. There are lots of things that I can no longer eat...corn being another of them - so go gently for a little while till you work out what you can & can't eat comfortably. Kind regards, Robyn in Bega To help you stay safe and secure online, we've developed the all new Yahoo! Security Centre. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2006 Report Share Posted March 14, 2006 HI Mel, Just thought I would add my 2 cents worth. Lamb cutlets or chops or roast is no longer possible for me to eat in any amount.......booooohoooooo...as roast lamb is my very favourite meal. I am unable to chew the meat enough to make it "band friendly" and I always end up Pb'ing it back....now I chew & spit out, rather than swallow - I still get the yummy taste, without the pain afterwards. There are lots of things that I can no longer eat...corn being another of them - so go gently for a little while till you work out what you can & can't eat comfortably. Kind regards, Robyn in Bega To help you stay safe and secure online, we've developed the all new Yahoo! Security Centre. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2006 Report Share Posted March 14, 2006 Thanks Robyn, Agree... the corn yesterday was probably 1/2 my problem. Didn't think of that until you mentioned it. Even though it was quite mushy in the fritter, it is still one of those things that it hard to digest even without a band. So, I will try a little of everthing and chew chew chew and hope that I can slowly but surely figure out what I can and can't eat. I will take this new solid stage as a bit of a new adventure. Thanks Mel >> HI Mel,> > Just thought I would add my 2 cents worth. Lamb cutlets or chops or roast is no longer possible for me to eat in any amount.......booooohoooooo...as roast lamb is my very favourite meal.> > I am unable to chew the meat enough to make it "band friendly" and I always end up Pb'ing it back....now I chew & spit out, rather than swallow - I still get the yummy taste, without the pain afterwards.> > There are lots of things that I can no longer eat...corn being another of them - so go gently for a little while till you work out what you can & can't eat comfortably.> > Kind regards,> > Robyn in Bega> > > ---------------------------------> To help you stay safe and secure online, we've developed the all new Yahoo! Security Centre.> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2006 Report Share Posted March 14, 2006 Mel, That's exactly the way to look at it. You're learning all over again. It's so hard to advise as everyone's journey is different...but by taking it slow & steady for a while, you will eventually get the hang of this band thingy. Glad to hear that you are coming good after your rough start. Remember also that it takes an awful long time to get control of your head & eyes...I'm still trying to come to terms with head hunger, some 2.5 years down the track. Maybe I am just a slow learner. Take care, Robyn in Bega Yahoo! Messenger NEW - crystal clear PC to PC calling worldwide with voicemail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2006 Report Share Posted March 14, 2006 Mel, That's exactly the way to look at it. You're learning all over again. It's so hard to advise as everyone's journey is different...but by taking it slow & steady for a while, you will eventually get the hang of this band thingy. Glad to hear that you are coming good after your rough start. Remember also that it takes an awful long time to get control of your head & eyes...I'm still trying to come to terms with head hunger, some 2.5 years down the track. Maybe I am just a slow learner. Take care, Robyn in Bega Yahoo! Messenger NEW - crystal clear PC to PC calling worldwide with voicemail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2006 Report Share Posted March 14, 2006 Ghyll, Not sure about that... having a problem with pain after I eat in the evenings. Hardly eating anything, but still suffering with pain. Will see how things pan out. Maybe I can only eat normal food during daylight hours ~ eerie! But, it was so nice to have something civilised. I love the plastic cup scenario... interesting!!! Mel >> Hey Mel,> > Well I am one of those lucky people who can eat anything and I mean anything and everything because somehow with my addictive personality I have learnt the fine art of chewing things to death in my mouth and then swallowing - the only hassles I have with blockages are with fizzy drinks - but that has been conquered because I drink them out of a plastic glass, and the bubbles are not as intense or painful.> > You could be one of the lucky ones like me and no food is taken away from you.> > Ghyll> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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