Re: PLEASE HELP ME!

[Guest guest]

, my husband is a chiropractor. Chiropractic works as you have seen

going from 50% to 80%. Find a chiropractor that will take a payment plan

(Dr. Dean Sottile, a chiropractor in Clifton, New Jersey comes to mind) and

get back into treatment. The bones DO respond to chiropractic but it takes

TIME.

My sister lost a lot of range on motion in her right arm. She could not

reach around to her back and her shoulder had bursitis. My husband did an

exam and adjusted her for her other shoulder. She was over compensating for

the weakness in the other shoulder. I can tell you of countless patients

who come in because their right knee is giving them extreme pain but it is

really their hips that are out of alignment.

I had chronic bursitis in my right shoulder to the point that the Navy was

going to disable me. I simply could not use my right arm without

excruciating pain. I had gone the rounds of MD's and Physical Therapists to

no avail for 6 months. I finally went to a Chiropractor who showed me my

whole skeletal frame was shifted on the right side. The bursitis was a

SYMPTOM and not the PROBLEM. Yes it was expensive but well worth it as I am

symptom free now for over 20 years.

Here is a good place to start researching the benefits of chiropractic for

the long haul: http://www.planetchiropractic.com/

Lori Fields

Georgia, USA

-----Original Message-----

From: Zim

I worked with a chiropractor who specialized in ART, Graston, and

trigger point

therapy (all pretty painful stuff he diagnosed me with hip bursitis and

a few other things I can't remember (I am extremely tight and stretch

quite often). He was pretty expensive so I had to stop his services

after about 6 weeks and he was able to get me from 50% to about 80%.

[Guest guest]

,

I feel for you, bro. It sucks to have been athletic and then seemingly be

unable to participate as you would like to due to injury. It is very difficult

to diagnose over the web-as you've found, it can be hard enough to diagnose in

person! Take anything you read on this or any other board with some healthy

skepticism as not being able to examine you will be grounds for some biased

replies. Nevertheless, someone may be able to come up with an idea that does

help you.

You describe a series of problems which may all be unrelated, or, on the other

hand, could have some causal connection. Again, very tough to determine

without seeing you. I'll focus on your shoulder. I'm going to suggest that

the dead arm problem you initially describe could signal the onset of a

condition called scapula dyskinesis. The trigger appears to be a tightening of

the posterior inferior glenohumeral ligament. It is often seen with labral

tear so could fit you. Atrophy of the scapula stabilizers can occur. If

this is you, stretching of this ligament is needed to release the tight

posterior capsule.

If you send me an e-mail address,I can try to send you an attachment showing the

stretch for this. It's called a sleeper stretch. This may have to be

resolved before the scapula stabilizers will recover. As an alternative, try

contacting any major league ball club in your area-they may have a trainer or PT

who is familiar with this condition who could assist you.

Good luck

Ernie Roy PT, CSCS

Northfield, NH

USA

PLEASE HELP ME!

Ok by the time I am done explaining my ailments you will all probably be

quite bored, please bare with me I am desperate. Just to give some

background I am 27 years old, I have been athletically involved my whole

life playing football throughout my college career.

Over the past 2 years my body has completely broking down, creating a

cycle of pain that will just not quit! Maybe by going over the chain of

events somebody can help me at least try to determine what the hell is

going on. I have seen every Dr. for every ailment known to man.

My whole life I was a pitcher and would pitch and catch on back to back

days most likely causing great cumulative trauma to my shoulder,

sometimes I couldn't even lift my arm it was so dead, but never had any

problems with my shoulder, it wasn't till after I stopped playing that I

would once a year go out and throw as if I had prepared for the stress

of and experience some significant pain. This happened on a couple of

occasions. Anyways about 2 years ago after I had on a few occasions hurt

my shoulder I started to see a significant depression of my right

shoulder and a fair amount of protraction, didn't really think much of

it till the pain started to continue during overhead exercises, and

throwing.

Then I started to notice significant atrophy on the right side of my

body in my trap and in my lat as the depression and protraction got

worse I consulted an orthopedic who sent me to physical therapy where

she decided that it was coming from my neck (Potential cervical disk

issue) and sent me to a neurologist who ordered a cervical MRI, which

showed a narrowing of the foramen (Foraminal Stenosis) but no disk

issue, now miracoulsly after the MRI my neck went into complete spasms

and I was no longer able to extend without great discomfort (I had never

experienced neck pain) The spasms subsided after about 6 months and 2

shots (which didn't really help) and there is no longer chronic pain but

becomes very uncomfortable in certain positions and can still not extend

with great discomfort.

Now moving forward my shoulder and atrophy continued to get worse so I

decided to consult an orthopedic about my shoulder who ordered an MRI

and found a total Labral tear and 75% of my suprispinatus was torn, so I

decided to have it scoped which was a year ago this month. I'd say I am

at about 90% unable to come in to the midline in abduction without

significant pain and restriction, my posterior capsule is still

experiencing pain and restriction also. So basically I'm almost worse in

my shoulder after because I got thrown out of physical therapy after

about 5 months cause my sessions ran out, and I was never able to finish

my rehab.

Moving back to the middle of my rehab for my shoulder in the month of

April about 4 months into the rehab my low back went into total spasm

and couldn't even bend forward to put my sneakers on it was extremely

painful and stiff there was also significant pain in extension. I worked

with a chiropractor who specialized in ART, Graston, and trigger point

therapy (all pretty painful stuff he diagnosed me with hip bursitis and

a few other things I can't remember (I am extremely tight and stretch

quite often). He was pretty expensive so I had to stop his services

after about 6 weeks and he was able to get me from 50% to about 80%.

Finally I decided to take matters into my own hands and get as fit as

possible doing a well balanced strength and conditioning program

thinking that maybe I was just out of shape and my body was broken down

from all the trauma of surgery. Started getting my squat and deadlift

back to decent strength and definitely felt some relief both mentally

and physically which takes me to now where I still am now at about 90%.

After I started to recognize some atrophy in my left calf (the side of

the body where the pain mostly resides in my lumbar) I decided to get a

MRI to confirm if something was wrong or not and sure enough the MRI

showed absolutely nothing.

I have tried everything I am exhausted and depressed about always being

in pain at 27 and not nearly as active as I'd like to be, my shoulder

still hangs and I have tried every scapular exercise there is,

elevation, depression, protraction, retraction, I have tried to work the

shoulder joint in every movement possible, single joint workouts,

compound movement workouts for strength, balance work, cardio, swimming,

blah blah blah.

PLEASE HELP ME, sometimes I just think I carry stress in weird ways but

even that I just don't know what to do.

Thanks so much for listening to this cry for help. Any suggestions would

be greatly appreciated!

Zimmerman

NY, NY

[Guest guest]

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Please contact me directly at _kson@..._

(mailto:kson@...) to discuss this further. I have some

ideas but need more

information.

In the mean time, this article may give you some insight into the injuries

you have experienced:

_http://www.circularstrengthmag.com/24/bibbs.html_

(http://www.circularstrengthmag.com/24/bibbs.html)

Take care!

kson, CST

Minneapolis, MN

In a message dated 1/1/2005 5:35:27 A.M. Central Standard Time,

alexzim@... writes:

Ok by the time I am done explaining my ailments you will all probably be

quite bored, please bare with me I am desperate. Just to give some

background I am 27 years old, I have been athletically involved my whole

life playing football throughout my college career.

Over the past 2 years my body has completely broking down, creating a

cycle of pain that will just not quit! Maybe by going over the chain of

events somebody can help me at least try to determine what the hell is

going on. I have seen every Dr. for every ailment known to man.

My whole life I was a pitcher and would pitch and catch on back to back

days most likely causing great cumulative trauma to my shoulder,

sometimes I couldn't even lift my arm it was so dead, but never had any

problems with my shoulder, it wasn't till after I stopped playing that I

would once a year go out and throw as if I had prepared for the stress

of and experience some significant pain. This happened on a couple of

occasions. Anyways about 2 years ago after I had on a few occasions hurt

my shoulder I started to see a significant depression of my right

shoulder and a fair amount of protraction, didn't really think much of

it till the pain started to continue during overhead exercises, and

throwing.

Then I started to notice significant atrophy on the right side of my

body in my trap and in my lat as the depression and protraction got

worse I consulted an orthopedic who sent me to physical therapy where

she decided that it was coming from my neck (Potential cervical disk

issue) and sent me to a neurologist who ordered a cervical MRI, which

showed a narrowing of the foramen (Foraminal Stenosis) but no disk

issue, now miracoulsly after the MRI my neck went into complete spasms

and I was no longer able to extend without great discomfort (I had never

experienced neck pain) The spasms subsided after about 6 months and 2

shots (which didn't really help) and there is no longer chronic pain but

becomes very uncomfortable in certain positions and can still not extend

with great discomfort.

Now moving forward my shoulder and atrophy continued to get worse so I

decided to consult an orthopedic about my shoulder who ordered an MRI

and found a total Labral tear and 75% of my suprispinatus was torn, so I

decided to have it scoped which was a year ago this month. I'd say I am

at about 90% unable to come in to the midline in abduction without

significant pain and restriction, my posterior capsule is still

experiencing pain and restriction also. So basically I'm almost worse in

my shoulder after because I got thrown out of physical therapy after

about 5 months cause my sessions ran out, and I was never able to finish

my rehab.

Moving back to the middle of my rehab for my shoulder in the month of

April about 4 months into the rehab my low back went into total spasm

and couldn't even bend forward to put my sneakers on it was extremely

painful and stiff there was also significant pain in extension. I worked

with a chiropractor who specialized in ART, Graston, and trigger point

therapy (all pretty painful stuff he diagnosed me with hip bursitis and

a few other things I can't remember (I am extremely tight and stretch

quite often). He was pretty expensive so I had to stop his services

after about 6 weeks and he was able to get me from 50% to about 80%.

Finally I decided to take matters into my own hands and get as fit as

possible doing a well balanced strength and conditioning program

thinking that maybe I was just out of shape and my body was broken down

from all the trauma of surgery. Started getting my squat and deadlift

back to decent strength and definitely felt some relief both mentally

and physically which takes me to now where I still am now at about 90%.

After I started to recognize some atrophy in my left calf (the side of

the body where the pain mostly resides in my lumbar) I decided to get a

MRI to confirm if something was wrong or not and sure enough the MRI

showed absolutely nothing.

I have tried everything I am exhausted and depressed about always being

in pain at 27 and not nearly as active as I'd like to be, my shoulder

still hangs and I have tried every scapular exercise there is,

elevation, depression, protraction, retraction, I have tried to work the

shoulder joint in every movement possible, single joint workouts,

compound movement workouts for strength, balance work, cardio, swimming,

blah blah blah.

PLEASE HELP ME, sometimes I just think I carry stress in weird ways but

even that I just don't know what to do.

Thanks so much for listening to this cry for help. Any suggestions would

be greatly appreciated!

Zimmerman

NY, NY