Re: did anyone ever

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" janeannmosher " wrote:

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> feel bad at their moldy location but feel worse when away from it

after a few hours??? I am scared. I even feel faint after I eat.

Jane ANN

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Yes, that is " Intensification Reaction " described in Mold Warriors.

It is the detoxification response of " dissociation " of toxins from the

receptors where they have been locked in place by " electron glue " .

The fact that you can feel it clearly now suggests that your MSH is

very low and your ACTH is almost depleted as well.

Conventional doctors will try to supplement cortisol, which can make

things much worse - it's in the book: " Like trying to put out a fire

with gasoline " .

You can survive, you can get through this - we've done it.

You can too.

You must find a safe place and not undergo ANY

re-exposure until sufficient toxins have been dumped that the

inflammatory response no longer goes " out of control " (lack of anti-

inflammatory cytokine damping response)

Read page 89 " Thiazolidinediones (TZD) and Gene Therapy!

" Actos " and " Avandia " about damping down immune over response.

This is a perilous stage of intensity. I got my friend through it by

taking her to the desert. KC and Sharon will remember talking to her

in 2002 when she had to sit most of the day in the wind outside the RV

because she was so reactive. She's doing fine now, though it sure was

tough at the time.

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Often,

There are many different kinds of mold that make people sick.. And

different strains of those species..

For example, stachybotrys - Some strains of stachybotrys contain

chemicals that cause infammation that starts almost immediately,

others cause inflammation that peaks at six hours, twelve hours,

twenty four hours.. and everything in between..

Some toxic effects might be caused by mold that was inhaled.. and the

toxins might be inside of the polysaccahride matrix, which might

release them over time.. Other toxins might absorb thrugh the skin

into the bloodstream.. at low concentrations in the blood but then it

carries them to the kidneys, liver, brain, etc. where they might be

metabolized over time..

Its an incredibly complex situation that defies simple

explanations..with literally thousands of different combinations

possible..

>On 10/2/06, janeannmosher <janeannmosher@...> wrote:

> feel bad at their moldy location but feel worse when away from it after

> a few hours??? I am scared. I even feel faint after I eat. Jane ANN

>

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Ive been out three years and still sick.

[Guest guest]

I worked in a moldy basement for eight years then had a moldy bathroom at

home.I not quite as bad as I was but I am pretty much homevbound with my air

cleaners.

[Guest guest]

I am so sorry. I seem to be able to leave for a few hours and then I have to

return home. I do not know what caused this.

Gingersnap1964@... wrote: I worked in a moldy basement for eight

years then had a moldy bathroom at

home.I not quite as bad as I was but I am pretty much homevbound with my air

cleaners.

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Gingersnap1964@... wrote:

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> I worked in a moldy basement for eight years then had a moldy

bathroom at home.I not quite as bad as I was but I am pretty much

homevbound with my air cleaners.

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I suspect this is because you can't get away long enough to damp

down the immune response to allow sufficient " dissocation " of toxins

from their receptors. You have to REALLY damp down the immune

system before this happens. Your neighborhood just isn't good

enough.

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I've been talking to a Dr. who is working on a plan to

create " Movable Environmental Control Units " to address this level

of reactivity.

If the systems in the trailers don't allow you to drop your

exposure low enough, then you move the whole thing to a better

location.

It's still just in the planning stages though.

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If you've developed a fungal infection from mold, you make the toxins

yourself, you anywhere you go, they go... Could be that. Hate to

scare you but systemic Candida for example makes toxins in your body.

--- In , jane mosher <janeannmosher@...>

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> I have been in this old house too long. I used to could go away and

my symptoms went away. Now they go with me. I am not taking any of

this furniture, antiques, clothes, etc. I want to be weller than now.

>

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I have that from antibiotics and steroids. I don't know what to do about it

though other than starve myself on a candida diet.

barb1283 <barb1283@...> wrote: If you've developed a fungal

infection from mold, you make the toxins

yourself, you anywhere you go, they go... Could be that. Hate to

scare you but systemic Candida for example makes toxins in your body.

--- In , jane mosher <janeannmosher@...>

wrote:

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> I have been in this old house too long. I used to could go away and

my symptoms went away. Now they go with me. I am not taking any of

this furniture, antiques, clothes, etc. I want to be weller than now.

>

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[Guest guest]

possibly, but living in a moldy enviroment, your toxin load increases,

after 10 years in a moldy house- I was sick everywhere for a long time-

you need to get out -get clear- de-tox with Cholestrymine- hope to

hear soon that you are in a non-moldy enviroment

karen-- In , " barb1283 " <barb1283@...>

wrote:

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> If you've developed a fungal infection from mold, you make the

toxins

> yourself, you anywhere you go, they go... Could be that. Hate to

> scare you but systemic Candida for example makes toxins in your

body.

>

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> > I have been in this old house too long. I used to could go away

and

> my symptoms went away. Now they go with me. I am not taking any of

> this furniture, antiques, clothes, etc. I want to be weller than

now.

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