Re: Just Take a Camper and Go ...

[Guest guest]

Barb,

This is exactly what I plan to do. I have thought about it for years but am

convinced now. I will be doing this..

Chris...

barb1283 <barb1283@...> wrote:

I was listening to talk radio last night and there was a doctor

being interviewed. I wish I had heard first part of it so I could

tell you his name. I think he has a regular spot on the channel so

maybe I will hear him again but he was making a lot of sense in many

things he said. What struck my interest was discussing a woman who

had breast cancer, his advice was to get a camper, go out in country

and just take care of your health. That wasn't exactly how it went

but the camper suggestion made me wonder if he was a reader here??

Anyway, if you went out near farms you could get hit by flying

insecticide so in the woods, beware of bears but I guess there are

some places where one could still get fresh air. I guess if I felt

this was the only way, I'd do it but boy I HATE to give up my job

and that's what I'd have to do, even though I have only been able to

work parttime. My house is about 99% of my financial worth and my

job is my link to everything, loans, health insurance, etc. I've

already had a year's leave of absence last year so no chance of that

right now.

I do think one should be able to find clean housing outside of a

camper. No reason wheels need to be involved EXCEPT if one finds

his choice of location not a good one. However renting or other

temporary housing one can move on also I would think but certainly

not as easily. Perhaps he just read Mold Warriors and 's

story.

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> Barb,

> This is exactly what I plan to do. I have thought about it for years

> but am convinced now. I will be doing this.. Chris...

>

> barb1283 <barb1283@...> wrote:

> I was listening to talk radio last night and there was a

> doctor

> being interviewed. I wish I had heard first part of it so I could tell

> you his name. I think he has a regular spot on the channel so maybe I

> will hear him again but he was making a lot of sense in many things he

> said. What struck my interest was discussing a woman who had breast

> cancer, his advice was to get a camper, go out in country and just

> take care of your health. That wasn't exactly how it went but the

> camper suggestion made me wonder if he was a reader here?? Anyway, if

> you went out near farms you could get hit by flying insecticide so in

> the woods, beware of bears but I guess there are some places where one

> could still get fresh air. I guess if I felt this was the only way,

> I'd do it but boy I HATE to give up my job and that's what I'd have to

> do, even though I have only been able to work parttime. My house is

> about 99% of my financial worth and my job is my link to everything,

> loans, health insurance, etc. I've already had a year's leave of

> absence last year so no chance of that right now.

>

> I do think one should be able to find clean housing outside of a

> camper. No reason wheels need to be involved EXCEPT if one finds his

> choice of location not a good one. However renting or other temporary

> housing one can move on also I would think but certainly not as

> easily. Perhaps he just read Mold Warriors and 's story.

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Life is a balance of holding on and letting go...

>

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> Talk is cheap. Use Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great

> rates starting at 1¢/min.

>

>

[Guest guest]

On Tue, 10 Oct 2006 01:49:47 -0000, you wrote:

>I was listening to talk radio last night and there was a doctor

>being interviewed. I wish I had heard first part of it so I could

>tell you his name. I think he has a regular spot on the channel so

>maybe I will hear him again but he was making a lot of sense in many

>things he said. What struck my interest was discussing a woman who

>had breast cancer, his advice was to get a camper, go out in country

>and just take care of your health.

That's what I have done, the woods part of it is great, I love it

here. Actually saw a mother bear and two cubs while I was hiking above

the property I am staying at. I thought they were dogs at first

glance they were so small, the mother too! I guess they don't eat to

well here in NC.

Didn't feel the least bit threatened by them. Unfortunately hunting

them is big sport here and they avoid people at all cost's. It's

unbelievable that I actually got to see them here in the wild. On one

of the few hikes I have taken.

When I am outside here I feel great. But I have heard here that these

mountains are actually pretty polluted from all the industry and what

not in the northeast. So if it's pollution you are trying to escape

you might be in for a surprise. I think it's the high elevation that

puts you in the path of all of the industrial pollutants in the

northeast. But the splendor and beauty here is unbelievable, I never

stop appreciating it.

Anyone thinking about a camper DON'T! They are rolling death traps for

people with mold sensitivity's! Just ask the salesman how long the

guarantee is for leaks. He will avoid the question because on my brand

spanking new Dutchmen/Thor product it's a whopping 90 days! And one of

the supervisors at Thor said it's your baby after that point and

actually was serious when she said I should strip the self leveling

caulking and replace it every 90 days. She said a leak is no problem

just caulk it over and be done with it. There are hundreds of joints,

seams and holes! YOU HAVE TO BE NUTS! They depend on very unreliable

caulking seals. When you tow these rolling death traps the caulking

seams all flex and crack in the hundreds of joints seams and holes in

these things from hell. They don't have solid roofs! They have this

thin rubber membrane that is very vulnerable, again any of the

hundreds of seals seams and holes they put in these areas are very

unreliable because it's simple self leveling caulking, that's it!

To make things worse they are very small so your limited airspace

reaches high concentrations of mold in the air you breath extremely

quickly as opposed to a 1000sq' or larger house.

Mine leaked though what I thought was the rubber seals in the slide

right off of the showroom floor. The people at Longview must have

mopped up the water coming into it after every rain storm. I later

found an entire piece of channel in the slide that had no caulking

underneath it. Strait from the factory! Also found a gapping 1/4 " un

caulked hole above both doors! Strait from the factory! Clearly no

leak testing goes on at that factory before they release their

products.

At least in a house you can remove drywall and access wet areas and

remove mold. It's not that easy with trailers, as a matter of fact for

all intents in purposes that endeavor would be futile.

I was considering an Airstream before 's post about the sheet

metal exterior being a magnet for condensate problems. You would have

to have access to the inner walls which you don't, so again even with

these high quality units I don't think it's worth risking $50,000 on

one.

I am looking for a cheap van to live in, they have no inner walls so I

can put in my own and make it in a way that they can be inspected. It

will be extremely crampt but I don't know of any other option. I can't

risk buying a house at this point and I don't like the idea of a crap

shoot for apartments. To many variables there.

[Guest guest]

When my ex and I went out into Sequoia National Park the sky was so

cramped with bright stars. It was so beautiful. It's hard to think

of that as polluted. There must be some clean areas left somewhere. I

certainly couldn't live there though, still have my job.

> > That's what I have done, the woods part of it is great, I love it

> here. Actually saw a mother bear and two cubs while I was hiking

above

>

[Guest guest]

Christ <antares41_41@...> wrote:

I have contemplated both of these options and see the same obvious

problems with the travel trailer (toy hauler) model as my own trailer.

The utility trailers having plywood would of course be a problem if

moisture gets trapped between the outer fiberglass or sheet metal

exterior. Not to mention any toxic chemicals that might be used to

treat plywood in these units in which were not designed for habitation.

>

>

Agreed. This is a model that has a metal frame and thin fiberglass

sheath - but no plywood.

I was looking at trailers that were all metal except for the plywood

floor, but then - that's how Airstreams are - and it's not uncommon to

find mold in the plywood floor.

So I didn't want any wood at all - none.

I had the stove built for me by this guy. He builds them to order.

http://www.fourdog.com/

I knew it was going to be really useful so I splurged. It's the

ultra lite 1, because I wanted to keep it light as possible.

If you talk to Kevilus, mention " with a K! not one of those

damned Swedes " - he'll remember me.

- with a K

[Guest guest]

On Thu, 12 Oct 2006 16:39:26 -0000, you wrote:

>

> Agreed. This is a model that has a metal frame and thin fiberglass

>sheath - but no plywood.

> I was looking at trailers that were all metal except for the plywood

>floor, but then - that's how Airstreams are - and it's not uncommon to

>find mold in the plywood floor.

>So I didn't want any wood at all - none.

What type of floor? Is this the one you were looking at for a

friend? I have never seen a trailer of any kind without wood for the

floor. You would need pretty heavy gauge metal for flooring in the

absence of wood. What is the brand name, do they have a website?

ly I like your metal stud concept with sheet metal roof and

siding. Maybe I should just find someone that does welding and have a

trailer built from the ground up using this concept. The cost would

be phenomenal though. A welder could eliminate the rivets though, that

would be a great improvement over even what you have with the rivets

.

>

[Guest guest]

On Wed, 11 Oct 2006 03:18:17 -0000, you wrote:

>

>When my ex and I went out into Sequoia National Park the sky was so

>cramped with bright stars. It was so beautiful. It's hard to think

>of that as polluted. There must be some clean areas left somewhere. I

>certainly couldn't live there though, still have my job.

I would think it would be better out west, North Carolina where I am

is just so close to all the major cities in the northeast we get all

of their fallout. From coal fired plants and automobiles and industry

and what not. I believe the elevation puts us right in it's path

depending on the weather. I wish the night sky was better here, it's

pitch black here when the moon isn't out but their is always haze and

clouds.

[Guest guest]

I forgot to mention doctor who said to take a camper and go,

recommendation was for 'a month' incidentally. Patient improved

also. He didn't say live in a camper forever, but that was just him.

> Christ <antares41_41@> wrote:

> I have contemplated both of these options and see the same

obvious

> problems with the travel trailer (toy hauler) model as my own

trailer.

> The utility trailers having plywood would of course be a problem if

> moisture gets trapped between the outer fiberglass or sheet metal

> exterior. Not to mention any toxic chemicals that might be used to

> treat plywood in these units in which were not designed for

habitation.

> >

[Guest guest]

,

I think he was talking 'conceptually' of the camper idea.

There is an Airstream group? Where?

I could only drive a camper if everyone else got off of the road.

--- In , Christ <antares41_41@...>

wrote:

>

> Barb,

>

> I am sure different campers have different degrees of integrity. My

> typical poor judgment and fate could have just dealt me a horrible

> blow. Even though my camper (actually 28' travel trailer) was brand

[Guest guest]

The airstream group I went to is in , just go there and do

a search for airstream.

>I could only drive a camper if everyone else got off of the road.

There really not to bad, you just got to be careful with tractor

trailers, passing you. They tend to suck you in and spit you out as

they go past.

On Tue, 17 Oct 2006 21:23:32 -0000, you wrote:

>,

>I think he was talking 'conceptually' of the camper idea.

>There is an Airstream group? Where?

>I could only drive a camper if everyone else got off of the road.