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>My 3 1/2 yo ASD daughter has recently had her 4th urine specimen sent

>in to Omegatech (a division of King Medical Labs). Each specimen

>has been done after several rounds of chelation with Chemet (DMSA)

>and, each time, the levels have increased. This most recent one is

>most disturbing to me because this is the highest increase I have seen

>so far. For example, her Arsenic went from 144 last time to 346 mcg/g

>this time! Her Mercury went from .3 to 7.70 mcg/g. Should I be worried

>about these increases?

Overall, I think you should feel good that lots of stuff is coming out.

In our autistic daughter's case, we saw nothing come out at first,

later small amounts of mercury came and went, and finally, tin

appeared from nowhere, and has stayed high. I get discouraged when

it stays high. My NT child, whom we are also chelating, however, has

gone down in his tin, which I take as an omen that my daughter will

too (her numbers were overall much higher.)

Any chance that your DMSA dosing has gone up, to account for some of

the increased output? (It accounted for higher output for us for the

Hg, but the dosing's been steady for the tin.)

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>>>>>>Any chance that your DMSA dosing has gone up, to account for

some of the increased output? (It accounted for higher output for us

for the Hg, but the dosing's been steady for the tin.) <<<<<<

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Yes, as a matter of fact, our doctor DID increase the dosage.

Originally, we were doing 100 mg once per day for 30 days. But, now

we are doing 100 mg three times per day for three days. Then, off for

11 days and continue the cycle... I guess the higher dosage would

account for the higher amount that has been chelated. Thanks.

--Vicky

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> Hello, All. I'm new here. I have been a member of the enzymes and

> autism board for quite some time now and was told to post the

> following question here:

>

> My 3 1/2 yo ASD daughter has recently had her 4th urine specimen

sent

> in to Omegatech (a division of King Medical Labs). Each

specimen

> has been done after several rounds of chelation with Chemet (DMSA)

> and, each time, the levels have increased. This most recent one is

> most disturbing to me because this is the highest increase I have

seen

> so far. For example, her Arsenic went from 144 last time to 346

mcg/g

> this time! Her Mercury went from .3 to 7.70 mcg/g. Should I be

worried

> about these increases? She is also high in Cadmium, Chromium,

Cobalt,

> Iron, Lead, Lithium, Magnesium, Manganese, Potassium, Selenium,

> Sodium, and Germanium. She was normal in everything else except she

> was a bit low in Copper. I won't be talking to my DAN doctor about

> these results for a couple of weeks to see what he recommends doing

> next. Does anyone have any thoughts on this, or know why the levels

> keep increasing? Please note that I have also been using digestive

> enzymes with the last three rounds of Chemet.

On page 52 of my book Amalgam Illness: Diagnosis and Treatment

(described at www.noamalgam.com) there is a graph of what happens to

people when they start excreting mercury. For adults this is

typically when they have their fililngs removed. For autistic

chidlren it is when you start slinging chelating agents around. Their

excretion goes UP for a while. This is normal. Their body is letting

go of it.

Andy

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> my three year old is dx w/ mild autism. he received mercury in

> three dtap vaccines before he was one. he is having brain seizures

> for which he has started lamictal. my ped neuro wants us to start

> mt-primer to follow with the mt-promotor. he suggested we start with

> this. if after two months(which is really four months because of the

> 2 months required for the primer), we see no improvement then we

> will try chelation. are we wasting our time

Yes.

> with the mt promoter.

> (i reviewed the faqs and didn't find anything on mt promotion).

> thanks.

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i appreciate your answer. my follow up is " why? " (i am happy to go to an

archived post if you can direct me.) thanks

[ ] Re: new member with a question

> my three year old is dx w/ mild autism. he received mercury in

> three dtap vaccines before he was one. he is having brain seizures

> for which he has started lamictal. my ped neuro wants us to start

> mt-primer to follow with the mt-promotor. he suggested we start with

> this. if after two months(which is really four months because of the

> 2 months required for the primer), we see no improvement then we

> will try chelation. are we wasting our time

Yes.

> with the mt promoter.

> (i reviewed the faqs and didn't find anything on mt promotion).

> thanks.

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> i appreciate your answer. my follow up is " why? "

It isn't helpful to any significant number of people, the theoretical

reasoning behind it is unrelated to the reality of how bodies handle

food and supplements, the supporting evidence for the theory is

tenuous at best, and for practical purposes all other detox support

protocols raise MT levels, many such as mine having been specifically

designed to do so.

Andy . . . . . . . . . .

>(i am happy to go to an archived post if you can direct me.) thanks

>

>

> > my three year old is dx w/ mild autism. he received mercury in

> > three dtap vaccines before he was one. he is having brain

seizures

> > for which he has started lamictal. my ped neuro wants us to

start

> > mt-primer to follow with the mt-promotor. he suggested we start

with

> > this. if after two months(which is really four months because of

the

> > 2 months required for the primer), we see no improvement then we

> > will try chelation. are we wasting our time

>

> Yes.

>

> > with the mt promoter.

> > (i reviewed the faqs and didn't find anything on mt promotion).

> > thanks.

>

>

>

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My oldest son was like that. Other than allergies/sinus infections

he was never sick. Even though he was in daycare he never got a

cold or virus. That seems great, but it's actually a sign of an

immune system that is not functioning properly.

As far as the cough, my son & I both have a constant cough from post

nasal drainage when our allergies kick in.

>

> Hi

>

> I just joined the list. I have an 8yo dd with autism. I am

starting to look into

> things other than behaviorial or educational because, though she is

> making progress, it is so slow.

>

> How many of you have kids who are seldom sick? My dd rarely gets

> a cold, though she has a constant cough. She is not, as far as

we know

> allergic to anything, but since she's non-verbal, it's hard to

tell. There are

> allergies on both sides of the family.

>

> Look forward to getting to know you all.

>

> Maggie

> San Ramon CA

>

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There is a substantial subgroup of children " on the spectrum " who are

rarely, or never, *outwardly* sick. It's still a sign that the immune

system isn't working properly...in the case of children who never

catch illness, the immune system is working TOO well and overreacting

-- attacking the appropriate microbial invaders, but also attacking

the body itself: the brain and nervous system! The body attacking

itself is the definition

of " autoimmune " .

An allergy is the immune system reacting to substance it mistakenly

perceives as a threat. The cough you describe is consistent with

allergies, possibly to something in the environment. It is also extremely

likely that she has food allergies, because virtually all kids on the

spectrum do. The best way to find out what she's allergic to, without

having blood drawn for a food-allergy panel, is to eliminate one thing

at a time from the child's diet for a week, observe the child's

behavior, then re-introduce it and watch for a difference in

behavior, alertness, communication, eye contact, etc. Cows' milk and

cows' milk products are the best things to start with.

HTH,

Donna

> >

> > I just joined the list. I have an 8yo dd with autism. I am

> starting to look into

> > things other than behaviorial or educational because, though she is

> > making progress, it is so slow.

> >

> > How many of you have kids who are seldom sick? My dd rarely gets

> > a cold, though she has a constant cough. She is not, as far as

> we know

> > allergic to anything, but since she's non-verbal, it's hard to

> tell. There are

> > allergies on both sides of the family.

> >

> > Look forward to getting to know you all.

> >

> > Maggie

> > San Ramon CA

> >

>

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My kids used to get sick all of the time. They were

always staying home from school, until about ages 9

and 7. Then it turned around to never getting sick.

Maybe an occ'l mild cold, but rarely. They have been

with Dr. G since 11 and 9 (3 years now).

barb

--- " Donna B. " <donnaaron@...> wrote:

> There is a substantial subgroup of children " on the

> spectrum " who are

> rarely, or never, *outwardly* sick. It's still a

> sign that the immune

> system isn't working properly...in the case of

> children who never

> catch illness, the immune system is working TOO well

> and overreacting

> -- attacking the appropriate microbial invaders, but

> also attacking

> the body itself: the brain and nervous system! The

> body attacking

> itself is the definition

> of " autoimmune " .

>

> An allergy is the immune system reacting to

> substance it mistakenly

> perceives as a threat. The cough you describe is

> consistent with

> allergies, possibly to something in the environment.

> It is also extremely

> likely that she has food allergies, because

> virtually all kids on the

> spectrum do. The best way to find out what she's

> allergic to, without

> having blood drawn for a food-allergy panel, is to

> eliminate one thing

> at a time from the child's diet for a week, observe

> the child's

> behavior, then re-introduce it and watch for a

> difference in

> behavior, alertness, communication, eye contact,

> etc. Cows' milk and

> cows' milk products are the best things to start

> with.

>

> HTH,

> Donna

>

> > >

> > > I just joined the list. I have an 8yo dd with

> autism. I am

> > starting to look into

> > > things other than behaviorial or educational

> because, though she is

> > > making progress, it is so slow.

> > >

> > > How many of you have kids who are seldom sick?

> My dd rarely gets

> > > a cold, though she has a constant cough. She

> is not, as far as

> > we know

> > > allergic to anything, but since she's

> non-verbal, it's hard to

> > tell. There are

> > > allergies on both sides of the family.

> > >

> > > Look forward to getting to know you all.

> > >

> > > Maggie

> > > San Ramon CA

> > >

> >

>

>

>

>

Barb Katsaros

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Hello- I was just diagnosed with a systemic Stachybotrys infection that

has given me major health problems for over a year, since Hurricane

Ivan in 2004. I am looking for info/help/tips/experience on treatment

and detox. Also, are the toxins involved water or fat soluble?

Thanks!

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there is such a diagnosis of apraxia or dyspraxia in

children here in the US and all over the globe. In fact the

name " childhoodapraxiaofspeech " as long and stupid as it sounds and

looks didn't even exist when my son Tanner was diagnosed

with " apraxia or dyspraxia it means the same thing " (and old archive

on that below) I for one say do NOT let anyone put that diagnosis

childhoodapraxiaofspeech in writing about your child because they

don't stay 3 forever and it's a horrible name for a 12 year old -

quite honestly I think I first heard about it when Tanner was younger

than 12 and it was still horrible to me. The horrible name we had to

fight then was " developmental apraxia of speech " or DAS which

translated to " you won't get speech therapy " which ironically is

probably a less offensive name than childhood since some don't know

what it means...Oh who am I kidding they both are just crazy. In the

UK little kids are diagnosed every minute with dyspraxia and you

don't see Harry Potter's coming out of the dyspraxia closet

with " childhood dyspraxia " !!!! You guys keep going in this direction

and I'm not kidding -I'm changing Tanner's diagnosis to dyspraxia. I

think I may just do that anyway as there's too much craziness

starting to go on in the apraxia world based on recent messages.

Speaking of Dr. House -Dr. House would have a field day with all the

stupid names of apraxia! He'd need three board to write on just to

list all of them!

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