Re: Weird personal question (regarding weight loss

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that thing is pretty expensive. Can't you do kegel exersises with out

the tool?

Barbara

>

> I personally had a partially prolapsed uterus a few years ago, but I

> don't think anyone would confuse that with extra weight--it feels more

> like your insides are falling out (which is exactly what they're doing).

>

> Better than a pessary or a hysterectomy is the Kegelmaster2000. (Weight

> lifting for your inner muscles!) This thing took care of my problem

in a

> couple of weeks. I'd be happy to field any questions either on the

forum

> or if you email me privately.

>

> Here's the link: http://www.kegelmaster2000.com/

>

> Naomi

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> > Yes, 50 pounds ago, I had gained a layer of fat over every part of my

> > skin, but my forehead and scalp It all comes off eventually.

> >

> > I would also bring up the question at your next appointment for a PAP

> > smear/annual physical, as sometimes the female anatomy prolapses.

> > (that means the ligaments and muscles inside are not working as they

> > once were) It is a topic to research on the internet to see if the

> > symtoms fit.

> > Here's a good place to start;

> > http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/article/001508.htm

> >

> > The weight gain, and pregnancy can make it worse.

> > An internal support device called a pessary is an option.

> > IMO I think if women can help each other with questions and fears

> > regarding their beloved pets on this list, than it's probably OK to

> > ask about questions regarding their own bodies.

> > Skwigg's call.

> > M.

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I don't think a hundred bucks is expensive at all for something that

works. It's a heckuva lot cheaper (and healthier) than the hysterectomy

I thought I was going to have. Plus, it's a very well-made medical

device; I expect it to last my lifetime.

It's miles more effective than just doing kegel exercises. As they

explain it on the website, just doing kegels is like trying to develop

your biceps by curling your arms over and over a few thousand times.

Unless you add resistance to the exercise, you're not accomplishing very

much.

I'm starting to sound like an advertisement--I swear, I'm not selling

the things!

Naomi

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> that thing is pretty expensive. Can't you do kegel exersises with out

> the tool?

>

> Barbara

>

>

> >

> > I personally had a partially prolapsed uterus a few years ago, but I

> > don't think anyone would confuse that with extra weight--it feels more

> > like your insides are falling out (which is exactly what they're doing).

> >

> > Better than a pessary or a hysterectomy is the Kegelmaster2000. (Weight

> > lifting for your inner muscles!) This thing took care of my problem

> in a

> > couple of weeks. I'd be happy to field any questions either on the

> forum

> > or if you email me privately.

> >

> > Here's the link: http://www.kegelmaster2000.com/

> >

> > Naomi

> > ******

> > > Yes, 50 pounds ago, I had gained a layer of fat over every part of my

> > > skin, but my forehead and scalp It all comes off eventually.

> > >

> > > I would also bring up the question at your next appointment for a PAP

> > > smear/annual physical, as sometimes the female anatomy prolapses.

> > > (that means the ligaments and muscles inside are not working as they

> > > once were) It is a topic to research on the internet to see if the

> > > symtoms fit.

> > > Here's a good place to start;

> > > http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/article/001508.htm

> > >

> > > The weight gain, and pregnancy can make it worse.

> > > An internal support device called a pessary is an option.

> > > IMO I think if women can help each other with questions and fears

> > > regarding their beloved pets on this list, than it's probably OK to

> > > ask about questions regarding their own bodies.

> > > Skwigg's call.

> > > M.

> > >

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Barbara, maybe to start you can do the kegels without the equipment?

You can definitely do kegels on your own, but I think what

Dragonmamma is saying makes sense - eventually, you may need to add

resistance.

If you just google kegel exercises, I bet you'll find a lot of info

on the exercises themselves. Then if it's still a problem, you could

invest in the equipment.

> > >

> > > I personally had a partially prolapsed uterus a few years ago,

but I

> > > don't think anyone would confuse that with extra weight--it

feels more

> > > like your insides are falling out (which is exactly what

they're doing).

> > >

> > > Better than a pessary or a hysterectomy is the

Kegelmaster2000. (Weight

> > > lifting for your inner muscles!) This thing took care of my

problem

> > in a

> > > couple of weeks. I'd be happy to field any questions either on

the

> > forum

> > > or if you email me privately.

> > >

> > > Here's the link: http://www.kegelmaster2000.com/

> > >

> > > Naomi

> > > ******

> > > > Yes, 50 pounds ago, I had gained a layer of fat over every

part of my

> > > > skin, but my forehead and scalp It all comes off

eventually.

> > > >

> > > > I would also bring up the question at your next appointment

for a PAP

> > > > smear/annual physical, as sometimes the female anatomy

prolapses.

> > > > (that means the ligaments and muscles inside are not working

as they

> > > > once were) It is a topic to research on the internet to see

if the

> > > > symtoms fit.

> > > > Here's a good place to start;

> > > > http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/article/001508.htm

> > > >

> > > > The weight gain, and pregnancy can make it worse.

> > > > An internal support device called a pessary is an option.

> > > > IMO I think if women can help each other with questions and

fears

> > > > regarding their beloved pets on this list, than it's

probably OK to

> > > > ask about questions regarding their own bodies.

> > > > Skwigg's call.

> > > > M.

> > > >

> >

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Thank you Dragonmamama

(Naomi -- but i like dragonmamma)

I had a hysterectomy in Dec and since then I've had some very very

low level incontinence

(the doctor says the hysterectomy moved things around -- maybe my

fibroids were holding up my bladder or something?)

so I think I'll try it

felicity

> Barbara, maybe to start you can do the kegels without the equipment?

> You can definitely do kegels on your own, but I think what

> Dragonmamma is saying makes sense - eventually, you may need to add

> resistance.

>

> If you just google kegel exercises, I bet you'll find a lot of info

> on the exercises themselves. Then if it's still a problem, you could

> invest in the equipment.

>

>

>>>>

>>>> I personally had a partially prolapsed uterus a few years ago,

> but I

>>>> don't think anyone would confuse that with extra weight--it

> feels more

>>>> like your insides are falling out (which is exactly what

> they're doing).

>>>>

>>>> Better than a pessary or a hysterectomy is the

> Kegelmaster2000. (Weight

>>>> lifting for your inner muscles!) This thing took care of my

> problem

>>> in a

>>>> couple of weeks. I'd be happy to field any questions either on

> the

>>> forum

>>>> or if you email me privately.

>>>>

>>>> Here's the link: http://www.kegelmaster2000.com/

>>>>

>>>> Naomi

>>>> ******

>>>>> Yes, 50 pounds ago, I had gained a layer of fat over every

> part of my

>>>>> skin, but my forehead and scalp It all comes off

> eventually.

>>>>>

>>>>> I would also bring up the question at your next appointment

> for a PAP

>>>>> smear/annual physical, as sometimes the female anatomy

> prolapses.

>>>>> (that means the ligaments and muscles inside are not working

> as they

>>>>> once were) It is a topic to research on the internet to see

> if the

>>>>> symtoms fit.

>>>>> Here's a good place to start;

>>>>> http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/article/001508.htm

>>>>>

>>>>> The weight gain, and pregnancy can make it worse.

>>>>> An internal support device called a pessary is an option.

>>>>> IMO I think if women can help each other with questions and

> fears

>>>>> regarding their beloved pets on this list, than it's

> probably OK to

>>>>> ask about questions regarding their own bodies.

>>>>> Skwigg's call.

>>>>> M.

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[Guest guest]

Yes, do check out the website. Taking care of urinary incontinence seems

to be a much more common reason for ordering the device than uterine

prolapse.

I wonder how many women are out there who don't want to take exercise

classes or work out at a gym or take long walks because they're afraid

they'll wet themselves? I've never had an incontinence problem, but I do

find myself able to " hold it in " for a much longer period of time than I

used to--should appeal to you ladies guzzling your water all day long

who get dirty looks from the boss every time you head off to the bathroom.

Naomi

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> Thank you Dragonmamama

> (Naomi -- but i like dragonmamma)

> I had a hysterectomy in Dec and since then I've had some very very

> low level incontinence

> (the doctor says the hysterectomy moved things around -- maybe my

> fibroids were holding up my bladder or something?)

> so I think I'll try it

> felicity

>

>

>

>

>

>

> > Barbara, maybe to start you can do the kegels without the equipment?

> > You can definitely do kegels on your own, but I think what

> > Dragonmamma is saying makes sense - eventually, you may need to add

> > resistance.

> >

> > If you just google kegel exercises, I bet you'll find a lot of info

> > on the exercises themselves. Then if it's still a problem, you could

> > invest in the equipment.

> >

> >

> >>>>

> >>>> I personally had a partially prolapsed uterus a few years ago,

> > but I

> >>>> don't think anyone would confuse that with extra weight--it

> > feels more

> >>>> like your insides are falling out (which is exactly what

> > they're doing).

> >>>>

> >>>> Better than a pessary or a hysterectomy is the

> > Kegelmaster2000. (Weight

> >>>> lifting for your inner muscles!) This thing took care of my

> > problem

> >>> in a

> >>>> couple of weeks. I'd be happy to field any questions either on

> > the

> >>> forum

> >>>> or if you email me privately.

> >>>>

> >>>> Here's the link: http://www.kegelmaster2000.com/

> >>>>

> >>>> Naomi

> >>>> ******

> >>>>> Yes, 50 pounds ago, I had gained a layer of fat over every

> > part of my

> >>>>> skin, but my forehead and scalp It all comes off

> > eventually.

> >>>>>

> >>>>> I would also bring up the question at your next appointment

> > for a PAP

> >>>>> smear/annual physical, as sometimes the female anatomy

> > prolapses.

> >>>>> (that means the ligaments and muscles inside are not working

> > as they

> >>>>> once were) It is a topic to research on the internet to see

> > if the

> >>>>> symtoms fit.

> >>>>> Here's a good place to start;

> >>>>> http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/article/001508.htm

> >>>>>

> >>>>> The weight gain, and pregnancy can make it worse.

> >>>>> An internal support device called a pessary is an option.

> >>>>> IMO I think if women can help each other with questions and

> > fears

> >>>>> regarding their beloved pets on this list, than it's

> > probably OK to

> >>>>> ask about questions regarding their own bodies.

> >>>>> Skwigg's call.

> >>>>> M.

> >

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lol....I was not trying to be critical, sorry if it sounded that way.

B

> > >

> > > I personally had a partially prolapsed uterus a few years ago, but I

> > > don't think anyone would confuse that with extra weight--it

feels more

> > > like your insides are falling out (which is exactly what they're

doing).

> > >

> > > Better than a pessary or a hysterectomy is the Kegelmaster2000.

(Weight

> > > lifting for your inner muscles!) This thing took care of my problem

> > in a

> > > couple of weeks. I'd be happy to field any questions either on the

> > forum

> > > or if you email me privately.

> > >

> > > Here's the link: http://www.kegelmaster2000.com/

> > >

> > > Naomi

> > > ******

> > > > Yes, 50 pounds ago, I had gained a layer of fat over every

part of my

> > > > skin, but my forehead and scalp It all comes off eventually.

> > > >

> > > > I would also bring up the question at your next appointment

for a PAP

> > > > smear/annual physical, as sometimes the female anatomy prolapses.

> > > > (that means the ligaments and muscles inside are not working

as they

> > > > once were) It is a topic to research on the internet to see

if the

> > > > symtoms fit.

> > > > Here's a good place to start;

> > > > http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/article/001508.htm

> > > >

> > > > The weight gain, and pregnancy can make it worse.

> > > > An internal support device called a pessary is an option.

> > > > IMO I think if women can help each other with questions and fears

> > > > regarding their beloved pets on this list, than it's probably

OK to

> > > > ask about questions regarding their own bodies.

> > > > Skwigg's call.

> > > > M.

> > > >

> >

> >

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No, you didn't sound critical. Don't apologize, I'm not thin-skinned! I

just like to put things in perspective. Let's see, for a hundred bucks

you could get 5 pizzas, or go out to the movies with your significant

other 5 times, or buy something that will keep you from peeing your

pants for the rest of your life. Decisions, decisions!

Naomi

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> lol....I was not trying to be critical, sorry if it sounded that way.

>

> B

>

>

> > > >

> > > > I personally had a partially prolapsed uterus a few years ago, but I

> > > > don't think anyone would confuse that with extra weight--it

> feels more

> > > > like your insides are falling out (which is exactly what they're

> doing).

> > > >

> > > > Better than a pessary or a hysterectomy is the Kegelmaster2000.

> (Weight

> > > > lifting for your inner muscles!) This thing took care of my problem

> > > in a

> > > > couple of weeks. I'd be happy to field any questions either on the

> > > forum

> > > > or if you email me privately.

> > > >

> > > > Here's the link: http://www.kegelmaster2000.com/

> > > >

> > > > Naomi

> > > > ******

> > > > > Yes, 50 pounds ago, I had gained a layer of fat over every

> part of my

> > > > > skin, but my forehead and scalp It all comes off eventually.

> > > > >

> > > > > I would also bring up the question at your next appointment

> for a PAP

> > > > > smear/annual physical, as sometimes the female anatomy prolapses.

> > > > > (that means the ligaments and muscles inside are not working

> as they

> > > > > once were) It is a topic to research on the internet to see

> if the

> > > > > symtoms fit.

> > > > > Here's a good place to start;

> > > > > http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/article/001508.htm

> > > > >

> > > > > The weight gain, and pregnancy can make it worse.

> > > > > An internal support device called a pessary is an option.

> > > > > IMO I think if women can help each other with questions and fears

> > > > > regarding their beloved pets on this list, than it's probably

> OK to

> > > > > ask about questions regarding their own bodies.

> > > > > Skwigg's call.

> > > > > M.

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LOL....excpet I'm not eating pizza and don't have a significant other

Well, I don't have a permanent significant other....lol.

I've not had a peeing problem, but suspect I am having a little of the

other trouble that you discussed. I am trying to make an appointment

with dr. to check it out. If the dr agrees that I am 'saggin' in

areas that would be best not to, I might cough up the bucks, since you

recommend it so highly.

Barbara

> > > > >

> > > > > I personally had a partially prolapsed uterus a few years

ago, but I

> > > > > don't think anyone would confuse that with extra weight--it

> > feels more

> > > > > like your insides are falling out (which is exactly what they're

> > doing).

> > > > >

> > > > > Better than a pessary or a hysterectomy is the Kegelmaster2000.

> > (Weight

> > > > > lifting for your inner muscles!) This thing took care of my

problem

> > > > in a

> > > > > couple of weeks. I'd be happy to field any questions either

on the

> > > > forum

> > > > > or if you email me privately.

> > > > >

> > > > > Here's the link: http://www.kegelmaster2000.com/

> > > > >

> > > > > Naomi

> > > > > ******

> > > > > > Yes, 50 pounds ago, I had gained a layer of fat over every

> > part of my

> > > > > > skin, but my forehead and scalp It all comes off

eventually.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I would also bring up the question at your next appointment

> > for a PAP

> > > > > > smear/annual physical, as sometimes the female anatomy

prolapses.

> > > > > > (that means the ligaments and muscles inside are not working

> > as they

> > > > > > once were) It is a topic to research on the internet to see

> > if the

> > > > > > symtoms fit.

> > > > > > Here's a good place to start;

> > > > > > http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/article/001508.htm

> > > > > >

> > > > > > The weight gain, and pregnancy can make it worse.

> > > > > > An internal support device called a pessary is an option.

> > > > > > IMO I think if women can help each other with questions

and fears

> > > > > > regarding their beloved pets on this list, than it's probably

> > OK to

> > > > > > ask about questions regarding their own bodies.

> > > > > > Skwigg's call.

> > > > > > M.

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Good perspective.

Or you could just wait until you're in your late

40's, get a nasty cold, and discover during a

coughing fit that this might just be a good idea

after all.

Just doing kegals by themselves didn't work that

well for me. Maybe it works better if you're

young and the muscle's still in prime shape

(anyone here over 40 remember what their rear

looked like at 20 and how it looked before you

started doing lunges?) But I think it's human

nature to wait until there's a problem before

looking for a solution. I got kegal " weights "

on the advice of the nurse at the birthing clinic

and those worked really well.

Weird to talk about this, isn't it?

--- DRAGONMAMMA wrote:

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> No, you didn't sound critical. Don't apologize, I'm

> not thin-skinned! I just like to put things in

> perspective. Let's see, for a hundred bucks you

> could get 5 pizzas, or go out to the movies with

> your significant other 5 times, or buy something

> that will keep you from peeing your pants for the

> rest of your life. Decisions, decisions!

>

> Naomi

> ******

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The weirdness wore off for me last year when I was having a " private "

discussion about it with someone at my bookclub meeting--all of a sudden

everyone was like " What the heck are you two talking about? " and next

thing I know I'm giving an impromptu lecture and pantomime demonstration

on using the Kegelmaster.

I think it was one of our more memorable meetings. (Plus, the book was

interesting. We were discussing " Granny D. " , a biography about a 90-some

year old lady who walked across America.)

This is exactly the sort of thing that women need to discuss with each

other, rather than clamming up out of embarassment.

Naomi

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> Good perspective.

> Or you could just wait until you're in your late

> 40's, get a nasty cold, and discover during a

> coughing fit that this might just be a good idea

> after all.

>

> Just doing kegals by themselves didn't work that

> well for me. Maybe it works better if you're

> young and the muscle's still in prime shape

> (anyone here over 40 remember what their rear

> looked like at 20 and how it looked before you

> started doing lunges?) But I think it's human

> nature to wait until there's a problem before

> looking for a solution. I got kegal " weights "

> on the advice of the nurse at the birthing clinic

> and those worked really well.

>

> Weird to talk about this, isn't it?

>

>

> --- DRAGONMAMMA wrote:

> >

> > No, you didn't sound critical. Don't apologize, I'm

> > not thin-skinned! I just like to put things in

> > perspective. Let's see, for a hundred bucks you

> > could get 5 pizzas, or go out to the movies with

> > your significant other 5 times, or buy something

> > that will keep you from peeing your pants for the

> > rest of your life. Decisions, decisions!

> >

> > Naomi

> > ******

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