Re: Question: Am I over-reacting????

[Guest guest]

I meant to say she slept at the friends house overnight.

>

> Ladies I'm stressing out. I need honest feedback. I have a 21 year

old

> who realized she lost her keys while attending a party with

friends.

> She left at the friends house over night, and didn't realize it

until

> this morning. There were also people at the party she didn't know.

>

> Now the last time she saw the keys, was when she got out of the

car

> that night and went into the friends house. So the keys are there

some

> where.

>

> The keys on her ring were home, mailbox, car ect. She lied and

told me

> she locked her keys in the car, I gave her mine to get in the car,

and

> figured out later she actually had copies made.

>

> It pissed me off that she was not going to tell me, but what

really

> pissed me off, is that when I told her she would have to have the

> locks changed, she got an attitude and stated " my friends wouldn't

use

> our mailbox, car, and home keys " , and then says, " no one would

take

> that risk anyway " " what's the big deal " ?

>

> Now ladies, be honest, did I overreact by suggesting we have the

locks

> changed, or do you feel she is being a little naive and too casual

> about all of this? I live in the home, and we share the car, so

this

> affects me also. Each time I think about the fact she wasn't going

to

> tell me, I get even more angry. For all she knows, one of her so-

> called friends could have taken her keys. I've learned not to

trust

> anyone with the identity theft ect going on. People can do a lot

with

> a mailbox key.

>

[Guest guest]

I meant to say she slept at the friends house overnight.

>

> Ladies I'm stressing out. I need honest feedback. I have a 21 year

old

> who realized she lost her keys while attending a party with

friends.

> She left at the friends house over night, and didn't realize it

until

> this morning. There were also people at the party she didn't know.

>

> Now the last time she saw the keys, was when she got out of the

car

> that night and went into the friends house. So the keys are there

some

> where.

>

> The keys on her ring were home, mailbox, car ect. She lied and

told me

> she locked her keys in the car, I gave her mine to get in the car,

and

> figured out later she actually had copies made.

>

> It pissed me off that she was not going to tell me, but what

really

> pissed me off, is that when I told her she would have to have the

> locks changed, she got an attitude and stated " my friends wouldn't

use

> our mailbox, car, and home keys " , and then says, " no one would

take

> that risk anyway " " what's the big deal " ?

>

> Now ladies, be honest, did I overreact by suggesting we have the

locks

> changed, or do you feel she is being a little naive and too casual

> about all of this? I live in the home, and we share the car, so

this

> affects me also. Each time I think about the fact she wasn't going

to

> tell me, I get even more angry. For all she knows, one of her so-

> called friends could have taken her keys. I've learned not to

trust

> anyone with the identity theft ect going on. People can do a lot

with

> a mailbox key.

>

[Guest guest]

If she finds the original set of keys still lying in the yard, or in a

jacket pocket, or in her friends sofa cushion or wherever she may have

left them, I probably wouldn't worry about the locks. But if you never

find the original set of keys, or you find that her friend's

neighbor's cousin's roommate was " holding onto them " for a few days,

I'd probably change the locks.

On 4/21/06, zerumba <no_reply > wrote:

> Ladies I'm stressing out. I need honest feedback. I have a 21 year old

> who realized she lost her keys while attending a party with friends.

> She left at the friends house over night, and didn't realize it until

> this morning. There were also people at the party she didn't know.

>

> Now the last time she saw the keys, was when she got out of the car

> that night and went into the friends house. So the keys are there some

> where.

>

> The keys on her ring were home, mailbox, car ect. She lied and told me

> she locked her keys in the car, I gave her mine to get in the car, and

> figured out later she actually had copies made.

>

> It pissed me off that she was not going to tell me, but what really

> pissed me off, is that when I told her she would have to have the

> locks changed, she got an attitude and stated " my friends wouldn't use

> our mailbox, car, and home keys " , and then says, " no one would take

> that risk anyway " " what's the big deal " ?

>

> Now ladies, be honest, did I overreact by suggesting we have the locks

> changed, or do you feel she is being a little naive and too casual

> about all of this? I live in the home, and we share the car, so this

> affects me also. Each time I think about the fact she wasn't going to

> tell me, I get even more angry. For all she knows, one of her so-

> called friends could have taken her keys. I've learned not to trust

> anyone with the identity theft ect going on. People can do a lot with

> a mailbox key.

[Guest guest]

Well I caught an 8 year old stealing my mail the first week I moved into

Denver! Probably looking for money in a card but still.

I am assuming you are the Mom and the 21 year old is your daughter?

Sorry no brainer here change the locks and start charging her rent. Just

my opinion.

Michele T

On Sat, 22 Apr 2006 00:55:28 -0000 zerumba <no_reply >

writes:

> Ladies I'm stressing out. I need honest feedback. I have a 21 year

> old

> who realized she lost her keys while attending a party with friends.

>

> She left at the friends house over night, and didn't realize it

> until

> this morning. There were also people at the party she didn't know.

>

> Now the last time she saw the keys, was when she got out of the car

>

> that night and went into the friends house. So the keys are there

> some

> where.

>

> The keys on her ring were home, mailbox, car ect. She lied and told

> me

> she locked her keys in the car, I gave her mine to get in the car,

> and

> figured out later she actually had copies made.

>

> It pissed me off that she was not going to tell me, but what really

>

> pissed me off, is that when I told her she would have to have the

> locks changed, she got an attitude and stated " my friends wouldn't

> use

> our mailbox, car, and home keys " , and then says, " no one would take

>

> that risk anyway " " what's the big deal " ?

>

> Now ladies, be honest, did I overreact by suggesting we have the

> locks

> changed, or do you feel she is being a little naive and too casual

> about all of this? I live in the home, and we share the car, so this

>

> affects me also. Each time I think about the fact she wasn't going

> to

> tell me, I get even more angry. For all she knows, one of her so-

> called friends could have taken her keys. I've learned not to trust

>

> anyone with the identity theft ect going on. People can do a lot

> with

> a mailbox key.

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Totally agree (and I'm about your daughters age)... Sure, she made a mistake

by losing the keys. So she needs to pay to have all your locks changed.

Sounds totally fair to me

Re: Question: Am I over-reacting????

> Well I caught an 8 year old stealing my mail the first week I moved into

> Denver! Probably looking for money in a card but still.

>

> I am assuming you are the Mom and the 21 year old is your daughter?

> Sorry no brainer here change the locks and start charging her rent. Just

> my opinion.

> Michele T

>

> On Sat, 22 Apr 2006 00:55:28 -0000 zerumba <no_reply >

> writes:

>> Ladies I'm stressing out. I need honest feedback. I have a 21 year

>> old

>> who realized she lost her keys while attending a party with friends.

>>

>> She left at the friends house over night, and didn't realize it

>> until

>> this morning. There were also people at the party she didn't know.

>>

>> Now the last time she saw the keys, was when she got out of the car

>>

>> that night and went into the friends house. So the keys are there

>> some

>> where.

>>

>> The keys on her ring were home, mailbox, car ect. She lied and told

>> me

>> she locked her keys in the car, I gave her mine to get in the car,

>> and

>> figured out later she actually had copies made.

>>

>> It pissed me off that she was not going to tell me, but what really

>>

>> pissed me off, is that when I told her she would have to have the

>> locks changed, she got an attitude and stated " my friends wouldn't

>> use

>> our mailbox, car, and home keys " , and then says, " no one would take

>>

>> that risk anyway " " what's the big deal " ?

>>

>> Now ladies, be honest, did I overreact by suggesting we have the

>> locks

>> changed, or do you feel she is being a little naive and too casual

>> about all of this? I live in the home, and we share the car, so this

>>

>> affects me also. Each time I think about the fact she wasn't going

>> to

>> tell me, I get even more angry. For all she knows, one of her so-

>> called friends could have taken her keys. I've learned not to trust

>>

>> anyone with the identity theft ect going on. People can do a lot

>> with

>> a mailbox key.

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

[Guest guest]

, , and , thank you all for this feedback. Ok,

now listen to this. She goes back out with the same friends last

night, and tells me she MIRACULOUSLY found her keys on the car floor

of the backseat of someone who was at the party. She FORGOT they all

went out to eat and she rode with this person, who mind you, isn't a

HER close friend, but a friend of someone she is dating.

Still despite the fact her keys were missing for a few days, she

honestly doesn't think it's at least a possibility someone could

have made copies made. Let me add, that the week before she left her

cell phone at the house of the person she is dating, friend to the

person who owned the car where she lost her keys, and it took her

two days to get that back. Call me ms suspicious but it all sounds

too coincidental to me. She also drinks when she is with these

friends, so there is no telling if they've snooped through her

wallet as well. She claims to have started leaving her wallet in her

car, but if someone has the key, and she's knocked out sleeping in

their home, what difference does that make. Amazing how she is agent

double 007 when I try to find out information, but she just careless

gives others access to the same info. When she gets home I know its

going to be a huge argument when i tell her i still want my locks

changed, and I'm not paying for it. REally getting on my nerves.

> > Ladies I'm stressing out. I need honest feedback. I have a 21

year old

> > who realized she lost her keys while attending a party with

friends.

> > She left at the friends house over night, and didn't realize it

until

> > this morning. There were also people at the party she didn't

know.

> >

> > Now the last time she saw the keys, was when she got out of the

car

> > that night and went into the friends house. So the keys are

there some

> > where.

> >

> > The keys on her ring were home, mailbox, car ect. She lied and

told me

> > she locked her keys in the car, I gave her mine to get in the

car, and

> > figured out later she actually had copies made.

> >

> > It pissed me off that she was not going to tell me, but what

really

> > pissed me off, is that when I told her she would have to have the

> > locks changed, she got an attitude and stated " my friends

wouldn't use

> > our mailbox, car, and home keys " , and then says, " no one would

take

> > that risk anyway " " what's the big deal " ?

> >

> > Now ladies, be honest, did I overreact by suggesting we have the

locks

> > changed, or do you feel she is being a little naive and too

casual

> > about all of this? I live in the home, and we share the car, so

this

> > affects me also. Each time I think about the fact she wasn't

going to

> > tell me, I get even more angry. For all she knows, one of her so-

> > called friends could have taken her keys. I've learned not to

trust

> > anyone with the identity theft ect going on. People can do a lot

with

> > a mailbox key.

>

[Guest guest]

Michele, i forgot to add that if an 8 year old would do this, what

makes her think young adults who know where she works, when she's

gone, ect wouldn't do it? we're both gone during the day and our

parking spaces are in front of the building so it would be easy to

tell when no one is home. what would stop someone from ordering

credit cards in her name ect and getting the mail before we do.

nothing.

mind u this is the third time we've had issues with keys. first time

at age 18 she lost them over a friends and i had the locks changed.

second time, last year, she used my keys to check the mail and left

them in the mailbox from 11am until midnight and a neighbor knocked

on my door around 1am to turn them in. i had surgery the day before

so had not left home all day. there are 20 apartments in our

building and anyone could have made copies during that time. mind

you a key shop is around the corner from our building so it wouldn't

have taken long.

the older she gets the more careless she seems to become regarding

things that should be confidential. each time it revolves around her

being with friends or rushing to go see friends. the day she left

them in the mailbox she had friends waiting on her. also, when u are

sleeping over the house of someone after drinking u don't know if

they are snooping through your social security card drivers license

and other. i think its time she got her own place. i dont know what

it would cost to have her car locks changed but i'll leave that up

to her, i just want my house and mailbox key changed. and after this

she no longer gets a copy of the mailbox key. i'll just put her mail

on the table.

>

> Well I caught an 8 year old stealing my mail the first week I

moved into

> Denver! Probably looking for money in a card but still.

>

> I am assuming you are the Mom and the 21 year old is your

daughter?

> Sorry no brainer here change the locks and start charging her

rent. Just

> my opinion.

> Michele T

>

> On Sat, 22 Apr 2006 00:55:28 -0000 zerumba

<no_reply >

> writes:

> > Ladies I'm stressing out. I need honest feedback. I have a 21

year

> > old

> > who realized she lost her keys while attending a party with

friends.

> >

> > She left at the friends house over night, and didn't realize it

> > until

> > this morning. There were also people at the party she didn't

know.

> >

> > Now the last time she saw the keys, was when she got out of the

car

> >

> > that night and went into the friends house. So the keys are

there

> > some

> > where.

> >

> > The keys on her ring were home, mailbox, car ect. She lied and

told

> > me

> > she locked her keys in the car, I gave her mine to get in the

car,

> > and

> > figured out later she actually had copies made.

> >

> > It pissed me off that she was not going to tell me, but what

really

> >

> > pissed me off, is that when I told her she would have to have

the

> > locks changed, she got an attitude and stated " my friends

wouldn't

> > use

> > our mailbox, car, and home keys " , and then says, " no one would

take

> >

> > that risk anyway " " what's the big deal " ?

> >

> > Now ladies, be honest, did I overreact by suggesting we have the

> > locks

> > changed, or do you feel she is being a little naive and too

casual

> > about all of this? I live in the home, and we share the car, so

this

> >

> > affects me also. Each time I think about the fact she wasn't

going

> > to

> > tell me, I get even more angry. For all she knows, one of her so-

> > called friends could have taken her keys. I've learned not to

trust

> >

> > anyone with the identity theft ect going on. People can do a lot

> > with

> > a mailbox key.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

You might be interested in knowing that if someone does

break in and steal anything, your insurance company will

not cover the loss (assuming you have homeowners/renters

insurance).

Insurance companies consider " lost " keys to be stolen -

whether they were later recovered or not - and require

that you file a police report and change the locks asap

if you expect them to pay out in the event of a burglery.

There is NO WAY I would wait on her to change the

locks or make it her responsibility. Have them

changed yourself now and present her with the bill.

I wouldn't even give her a copy of the new keys,

just an eviction notice.

[Guest guest]

I was thinking about that also. Then there is the issue of

her car. If I report the keys lost, insurance probably won't cover

anything if the car is damaged if someone drives it without her

permission. I know these are farfetched scenarios as she claims, but

not impossible. Her car has power locks ect, so I know it would

cost an arm and a leg to change the locks for four doors, an

ignition, and trunk. *sigh* I so much want to pack her bags and tell

her to hit the road, since she feels she is grown enough to stand

toe to toe with me, but it's so hard as a parent when they are young

adults. But it's getting a bit much for me with the flippant mouth,

and argueing, now this. She still insists MY FRIENDS WOULDN'T DO

THAT.

>

> You might be interested in knowing that if someone does

> break in and steal anything, your insurance company will

> not cover the loss (assuming you have homeowners/renters

> insurance).

>

> Insurance companies consider " lost " keys to be stolen -

> whether they were later recovered or not - and require

> that you file a police report and change the locks asap

> if you expect them to pay out in the event of a burglery.

>

> There is NO WAY I would wait on her to change the

> locks or make it her responsibility. Have them

> changed yourself now and present her with the bill.

> I wouldn't even give her a copy of the new keys,

> just an eviction notice.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Oh yeah that's true... Because your insurance company assumes you know

there's a risk that something could happen and you are not taking all

precautions... Same thing with losing your credit card. NEVER call them and

say 'Oh, I think it's lost but I'm not sure could you just put a hold on

it'... As soon as you admit you don't have possession of it, if you don't

report it lost immediately you are 100% responsible for all charges. I work

at a credit union and I have to say that alllll the time, ug...

Re: Question: Am I over-reacting????

> You might be interested in knowing that if someone does

> break in and steal anything, your insurance company will

> not cover the loss (assuming you have homeowners/renters

> insurance).

>

> Insurance companies consider " lost " keys to be stolen -

> whether they were later recovered or not - and require

> that you file a police report and change the locks asap

> if you expect them to pay out in the event of a burglery.

>

> There is NO WAY I would wait on her to change the

> locks or make it her responsibility. Have them

> changed yourself now and present her with the bill.

> I wouldn't even give her a copy of the new keys,

> just an eviction notice.

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>