Guest guest Posted April 5, 2006 Report Share Posted April 5, 2006 I've used Optimum 100% Egg Protein before. It's pretty bland plain but it's great in recipes or shakes with fruit. If you're allergic to dairy, you'd obviously want to avoid whey, but if you're lactose intolerant, lots of the whey proteins are lactose free. > > > what should I use? > i'm allergy to whey. > as far as i can tell my two other choices are rice and soy protein > powders. > is there another choice/ > what is the best choice for a non-whey person > felicity Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 5, 2006 Report Share Posted April 5, 2006 I've used Optimum 100% Egg Protein before. It's pretty bland plain but it's great in recipes or shakes with fruit. If you're allergic to dairy, you'd obviously want to avoid whey, but if you're lactose intolerant, lots of the whey proteins are lactose free. > > > what should I use? > i'm allergy to whey. > as far as i can tell my two other choices are rice and soy protein > powders. > is there another choice/ > what is the best choice for a non-whey person > felicity Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 6, 2006 Report Share Posted April 6, 2006 You're over-obsessing. :-) You have lots of whole food protein options. You have lots of shake options. Get both rice and egg protein if you want. Or just get rice, or just get egg, or get a protein blend that includes several different kinds. It doesn't really matter. Plenty of people have whey protein shakes several times a day, or chicken several times a day, or cottage cheese several times a day. Whatever works for you. There's something to be said for sticking to basics. In the laboratory, the fattest rats are the one with the most variety. The ripped rats are the ones who stick to boring rat chow and don't have to make any decisions about corn, sunflower seeds, apples, carrots, or alfalfa. The more options they have, the more they tend to eat. Same deal with the major BFL transformations or bodybuilding pre-contest diets. Generally, the more basic and structured they are, the faster the results. A lot of them look like: protein shake / oatmeal six egg whites / omelet vegetables / half a grapefruit chicken breast / yam protein shake / strawberries chicken breast / broccoli protein shake / strawberries Yawn, repeat endlessly until your skin is so thin you look like shrink wrapped meat. Just a thought. :-) You could argue the variety issue either way. It's a matter of your own priorities and preferences. You can go for lots of variety and flexibility in order to make it a permanent way of life. You can severely limit variety in order to go for dramatic results in a short period of time. Or you can find your happy place somewhere in the middle. In any case, having egg protein 2-3 times a day won't hurt you any. > OK > so I eat 3 egg whites and a whole egg with breakfast > and then i have another cup of so of egg white in my shakes > (yes, i eat fish and meat everyday too) > and if a have a second shake (which i sometimes do when i'm busy) > i'd bee having another cup or egg whites? > do i want my protein to be sooooo egg white heavy? > i try to eat varied foods -- as many different foods as possible > somehow it doesn't seem that healthy to just get stuck in one groove > or am i over obsessing here? > > it's better to eat tons of egg whites > or some egg whites some rice protein powder? > > i dont' care as far as taste > it's all the same to me > > i'm just trying to figure out what the healthiest choice is > since it's something i eat everyday > > making a wrong food choice once in a blue moon is one thing > but having a bad choice as a daily habit = bad idea > felicity Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 6, 2006 Report Share Posted April 6, 2006 You're over-obsessing. :-) You have lots of whole food protein options. You have lots of shake options. Get both rice and egg protein if you want. Or just get rice, or just get egg, or get a protein blend that includes several different kinds. It doesn't really matter. Plenty of people have whey protein shakes several times a day, or chicken several times a day, or cottage cheese several times a day. Whatever works for you. There's something to be said for sticking to basics. In the laboratory, the fattest rats are the one with the most variety. The ripped rats are the ones who stick to boring rat chow and don't have to make any decisions about corn, sunflower seeds, apples, carrots, or alfalfa. The more options they have, the more they tend to eat. Same deal with the major BFL transformations or bodybuilding pre-contest diets. Generally, the more basic and structured they are, the faster the results. A lot of them look like: protein shake / oatmeal six egg whites / omelet vegetables / half a grapefruit chicken breast / yam protein shake / strawberries chicken breast / broccoli protein shake / strawberries Yawn, repeat endlessly until your skin is so thin you look like shrink wrapped meat. Just a thought. :-) You could argue the variety issue either way. It's a matter of your own priorities and preferences. You can go for lots of variety and flexibility in order to make it a permanent way of life. You can severely limit variety in order to go for dramatic results in a short period of time. Or you can find your happy place somewhere in the middle. In any case, having egg protein 2-3 times a day won't hurt you any. > OK > so I eat 3 egg whites and a whole egg with breakfast > and then i have another cup of so of egg white in my shakes > (yes, i eat fish and meat everyday too) > and if a have a second shake (which i sometimes do when i'm busy) > i'd bee having another cup or egg whites? > do i want my protein to be sooooo egg white heavy? > i try to eat varied foods -- as many different foods as possible > somehow it doesn't seem that healthy to just get stuck in one groove > or am i over obsessing here? > > it's better to eat tons of egg whites > or some egg whites some rice protein powder? > > i dont' care as far as taste > it's all the same to me > > i'm just trying to figure out what the healthiest choice is > since it's something i eat everyday > > making a wrong food choice once in a blue moon is one thing > but having a bad choice as a daily habit = bad idea > felicity Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 6, 2006 Report Share Posted April 6, 2006 thanks one more question and i'll try to stop obsessing is rice protein ok? or did i read in BFFM (or somewhere) that it needs to be animal protein? that vegetarian proteins are incomplete and not going to do the job? thanks for being so patient with me while i obsess:) felicity Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 6, 2006 Report Share Posted April 6, 2006 thanks one more question and i'll try to stop obsessing is rice protein ok? or did i read in BFFM (or somewhere) that it needs to be animal protein? that vegetarian proteins are incomplete and not going to do the job? thanks for being so patient with me while i obsess:) felicity Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 6, 2006 Report Share Posted April 6, 2006 Here is the biological value of various proteins. BV measures the amount of protein retained in the human body per gram of protein absorbed. The higher the BV, the more efficiently the protein is absorbed and used. Rice protein is pretty far down there, even though I think they're talking about actual rice instead of some kind of powdered concentrate. Still, if I were going to pick one for every day use, I would go for egg over rice. Whey isolate 110-159 Whey concentrate 104 Whole egg 100 Cow's milk 91 Egg white 88 Fish 83 Beef 80 Chicken 79 Casein 77 Soy 74 Rice 59 Wheat 54 Beans 49 As far as complete and incomplete proteins, if you're eating a variety of different plant proteins, your body can store and combine the amino acids all by itself. You don't have to fiddle with specific combinations of plant proteins to pull it off. However, the whole muscle building and repair process is going to be a lot more efficient if you're eating mainly complete, high biological value, easily digestible protein sources, especially post workout. > thanks > one more question and i'll try to stop obsessing > is rice protein ok? > or did i read in BFFM (or somewhere) > that it needs to be animal protein? > that vegetarian proteins are incomplete and not going to do the job? > > thanks for being so patient with me while i obsess:) > felicity > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 6, 2006 Report Share Posted April 6, 2006 Here is the biological value of various proteins. BV measures the amount of protein retained in the human body per gram of protein absorbed. The higher the BV, the more efficiently the protein is absorbed and used. Rice protein is pretty far down there, even though I think they're talking about actual rice instead of some kind of powdered concentrate. Still, if I were going to pick one for every day use, I would go for egg over rice. Whey isolate 110-159 Whey concentrate 104 Whole egg 100 Cow's milk 91 Egg white 88 Fish 83 Beef 80 Chicken 79 Casein 77 Soy 74 Rice 59 Wheat 54 Beans 49 As far as complete and incomplete proteins, if you're eating a variety of different plant proteins, your body can store and combine the amino acids all by itself. You don't have to fiddle with specific combinations of plant proteins to pull it off. However, the whole muscle building and repair process is going to be a lot more efficient if you're eating mainly complete, high biological value, easily digestible protein sources, especially post workout. > thanks > one more question and i'll try to stop obsessing > is rice protein ok? > or did i read in BFFM (or somewhere) > that it needs to be animal protein? > that vegetarian proteins are incomplete and not going to do the job? > > thanks for being so patient with me while i obsess:) > felicity > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 6, 2006 Report Share Posted April 6, 2006 thanks:) > Here is the biological value of various proteins. BV measures the > amount of protein retained in the human body per gram of protein > absorbed. The higher the BV, the more efficiently the protein is > absorbed and used. Rice protein is pretty far down there, even though > I think they're talking about actual rice instead of some kind of > powdered concentrate. Still, if I were going to pick one for every day > use, I would go for egg over rice. > > Whey isolate 110-159 > Whey concentrate 104 > Whole egg 100 > Cow's milk 91 > Egg white 88 > Fish 83 > Beef 80 > Chicken 79 > Casein 77 > Soy 74 > Rice 59 > Wheat 54 > Beans 49 > > As far as complete and incomplete proteins, if you're eating a variety > of different plant proteins, your body can store and combine the amino > acids all by itself. You don't have to fiddle with specific > combinations of plant proteins to pull it off. However, the whole > muscle building and repair process is going to be a lot more efficient > if you're eating mainly complete, high biological value, easily > digestible protein sources, especially post workout. > > > > > > > thanks > > one more question and i'll try to stop obsessing > > is rice protein ok? > > or did i read in BFFM (or somewhere) > > that it needs to be animal protein? > > that vegetarian proteins are incomplete and not going to do the job? > > > > thanks for being so patient with me while i obsess:) > > felicity > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 6, 2006 Report Share Posted April 6, 2006 thanks:) > Here is the biological value of various proteins. BV measures the > amount of protein retained in the human body per gram of protein > absorbed. The higher the BV, the more efficiently the protein is > absorbed and used. Rice protein is pretty far down there, even though > I think they're talking about actual rice instead of some kind of > powdered concentrate. Still, if I were going to pick one for every day > use, I would go for egg over rice. > > Whey isolate 110-159 > Whey concentrate 104 > Whole egg 100 > Cow's milk 91 > Egg white 88 > Fish 83 > Beef 80 > Chicken 79 > Casein 77 > Soy 74 > Rice 59 > Wheat 54 > Beans 49 > > As far as complete and incomplete proteins, if you're eating a variety > of different plant proteins, your body can store and combine the amino > acids all by itself. You don't have to fiddle with specific > combinations of plant proteins to pull it off. However, the whole > muscle building and repair process is going to be a lot more efficient > if you're eating mainly complete, high biological value, easily > digestible protein sources, especially post workout. > > > > > > > thanks > > one more question and i'll try to stop obsessing > > is rice protein ok? > > or did i read in BFFM (or somewhere) > > that it needs to be animal protein? > > that vegetarian proteins are incomplete and not going to do the job? > > > > thanks for being so patient with me while i obsess:) > > felicity > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 6, 2006 Report Share Posted April 6, 2006 " ripped rats " ? LOL. That's depressing though. I would not be a happy camper with no variety. I consistently don't get enough protein, and in general in my diet I do not fancy a protein concentrated daily macro. It makes me eat more meat, eggs than I like I try though. At 06:11 PM 4/5/2006, you wrote: >There's something to be said for sticking to basics. In the >laboratory, the fattest rats are the one with the most variety. The >ripped rats are the ones who stick to boring rat chow and don't have >to make any decisions about corn, sunflower seeds, apples, carrots, or >alfalfa. The more options they have, the more they tend to eat. Same >deal with the major BFL transformations or bodybuilding pre-contest >diets. Generally, the more basic and structured they are, the faster >the results. A lot of them look like: > >protein shake / oatmeal >six egg whites / omelet vegetables / half a grapefruit >chicken breast / yam >protein shake / strawberries >chicken breast / broccoli >protein shake / strawberries > >Yawn, repeat endlessly until your skin is so thin you look like shrink >wrapped meat. > >Just a thought. :-) You could argue the variety issue either way. It's >a matter of your own priorities and preferences. You can go for lots >of variety and flexibility in order to make it a permanent way of >life. You can severely limit variety in order to go for dramatic >results in a short period of time. Or you can find your happy place >somewhere in the middle. In any case, having egg protein 2-3 times a >day won't hurt you any. > > ---------- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.3.5/302 - Release Date: 4/5/2006 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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