Re: inflammation of the knee

[Guest guest]

Dear GR,

Bag the leg. Ozone will probably normalize the fluid level.

Best of Health!

Dr. Saul Pressman

Re: Ozone and circulation

> >

> >

> > I have done ozone saunas for about 6 years.

> > To coin a phrase, everything I know about ozone

> > saunas, I learned from Saul. Oral EDTA - learned

> > about that at an acupuncture seminar! It helped

> > the speaker's parents and I order it from DeeCee

> > Labs.

> > jp

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Saul,

I never have used my generator in that way but, I can try that!!! How long

and how often? Do I need a special bag?

GR

----Original Message Follows----

From: " Saul Pressman " <saul@...>

Reply-oxyplus

<oxyplus >

Subject: Re: inflammation of the knee

Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 02:35:33 -0700

Dear GR,

Bag the leg. Ozone will probably normalize the fluid level.

Best of Health!

Dr. Saul Pressman

Re: Ozone and circulation

> >

> >

> > I have done ozone saunas for about 6 years.

> > To coin a phrase, everything I know about ozone

> > saunas, I learned from Saul. Oral EDTA - learned

> > about that at an acupuncture seminar! It helped

> > the speaker's parents and I order it from DeeCee

> > Labs.

> > jp

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Dear GR,

Any clear bag will do. If there is writing on it, make sure that is on the

outside, not where the ozone can get at it.

Wet the skin thoroughly with a warm wet washcloth to open the pores. Put

your leg into the bag and put in the tubing so that the end of it is near

the knee. Ozone is heavier than air, so it will fall towards your foot.

Close off the top of the bag with a tension bandage, or a cloth strip.

Flow rate at 1/32 l/m or .5 l/m if you have a concentrator.

30 minutes per session.

Daily for three or four days.

Best of Health!

Dr. Saul Pressman

Re: Ozone and circulation

> > >

> > >

> > > I have done ozone saunas for about 6 years.

> > > To coin a phrase, everything I know about ozone

> > > saunas, I learned from Saul. Oral EDTA - learned

> > > about that at an acupuncture seminar! It helped

> > > the speaker's parents and I order it from DeeCee

> > > Labs.

> > > jp

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

Okay, thanks for the instructions!

GR

----Original Message Follows----

From: " Saul Pressman " <saul@...>

Reply-oxyplus

<oxyplus >

Subject: Re: inflammation of the knee

Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 11:15:38 -0700

Dear GR,

Any clear bag will do. If there is writing on it, make sure that is on the

outside, not where the ozone can get at it.

Wet the skin thoroughly with a warm wet washcloth to open the pores. Put

your leg into the bag and put in the tubing so that the end of it is near

the knee. Ozone is heavier than air, so it will fall towards your foot.

Close off the top of the bag with a tension bandage, or a cloth strip.

Flow rate at 1/32 l/m or .5 l/m if you have a concentrator.

30 minutes per session.

Daily for three or four days.

Best of Health!

Dr. Saul Pressman

Re: Ozone and circulation

> > >

> > >

> > > I have done ozone saunas for about 6 years.

> > > To coin a phrase, everything I know about ozone

> > > saunas, I learned from Saul. Oral EDTA - learned

> > > about that at an acupuncture seminar! It helped

> > > the speaker's parents and I order it from DeeCee

> > > Labs.

> > > jp

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

Gypsy Rose, I use proteolytic enzymes with Seaprose-S and nattokinase from

Baseline Nutritionals. Here are 2 articles if you're interested in more info.

In one article I read that Serrapeptase targets blood clots and Seaprose-S

reduces inflamation and breaks up mucous. Ruth

http://www.baselinenutritionals.com/ingredients/hsi-proteolytics.html and

http://www.jonbarron.org/newsletters/news031027.htm

--------- Fw: Re: Peru / aortal flutter/ inflammation of the knee

> Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 12:08:42 -0700

>

> Hi Gypsy Rose,

>

> These are some things that have worked for other people.

> Serrapeptase, as we recently discussed, is profoundly anti inflammatory and

> also eliminates scar tissue. It is wonderful for joint issues.

>

> Immucell can be helpful if there is damage to the joint. It is NON

> hydrolyzed collagen, glucosamine and chondrointan sulfate and hyaluronic

> acid. These reduce/eliminate pain and also will rebuild the joint over

> time. I have had some people have some pretty amazing results with this.

> It stopped the plantar faciitis pain I had immediately.

>

> CMO cetyl myristoleate is a waxy concoction derived from beef or sheep

> tallow, or chicken fat or butter. What it does: Well when we have

> inflammation in joints it is often helper T cells gone awry. Instead of

> serving the community they have become gangs pillaging. They cease to

> distinquish between healthy joint cells and unhealthy joint cells and begin

> to attack them all. CMO turns this off. They leave the gangs and go back

> to being productive citizens. Smile. 13 grams over a month is what is

> recommended for a situation like yours.

>

> Once the CMO has restored the helper T cells to normal function and they

> cease to tear down the area, the Immucell ingredients can be used by the

> body to repair the area. This takes 6 months to a year, though relief is

> generally noticed immediately. The serrapeptase is anti-inflammatory and

> removes any scar tissue that has occurred in the mean time.

>

> Just as an example a lady I know who is 62 has breast implants. She has had

> them since the seventies. One of the down sides to breast implants is that

> you get alot of scar tissue around them and they get really hard to the

> touch and don't feel natural. This was what she experienced. So she

> started taking serrapeptase, not for that but, for the cardiovascular

> cleansing ability of it. She called me yesterday in amazement because she

> has only been on serrapeptase for about 5 or 6 days and already her breasts

> are feeling soft and normal. She is just wide eyed with amazement.

>

> It seems like it is cleaning out her arteries as quickly because she says

> the heart symptoms she was having are gone already.

>

> So, back to your knee. You might consider CMO, serrapeptase and Immucell.

>

> Also lymphatic massage of the area can eliminate alot of fluid and promote

> healing.

>

> I'll post some more info seperately.

> Donna

> http://www.excellentthings.com

> http://www.goodhealth.nu\us\1387/

> 10% Discount on first order with ID#1387

> The doctor is not responsive or educated when talking aboutalternatives.

> He is my doctor as well and I was in to see him today for a knee problem

> that has been going on for a month now. I have some fluid on the knee and

> wanted an MRI to see what the problem is and he prescribed an

> antiinflammatory called relafex (sp?) and an x-ray. When I asked

> him about Wobenzyme enzymes or another alternative to what he was

> prescribing

> he said he had no idea what I was talking about. Too bad for him and me and

> my

> brother. He is just not interested. When I mentioned ozone a long

> time ago to him he said he had no idea what that was either and said he had

> never heard of it.

>

> I did get the MRI out of him but I did not go for the x-ray and I am not

> filling the prescription. Am going to call tomorrow to schedule the MRI and

> am wondering what I could do in the meantime to help with the pain(minor)

> and fluid/inflammation. I remember Wobenzyme enzymes discussed

> here in the past for inflammation in the joints. Don't really know what

> else to

> try but am adverse to filling this prescription especially since he

> mentioned

> stomach problems would be associated with it.

> >

> > GypsyRose

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

In regards to inflammation of the knee. I have had some experience with this.

CMO will likely take care of it. I had severe inflamation of the knees

preventing me from walking back in 94. There was also fluid under the knee

cap that you could hear. creptitis. A weeks worth of cmo and all was well, and

thats after 6 months of torture with the problem. I took the CMO for the full

month because thats what Dr Donsbach said to do. I've had to repeat it for

minor flair up only about 3 times since 94.

http://downlinebuilders.net/rusty/cetyl-myristoleate/

you can get it from www.trcnutritionals.com

1-800-421-7310 The product is called Inflameze

I do have a touch of psoriasis. Last year I got psoric arthritis to one knee

under

a psoriasis leasion. It was terribly painful. About 1 week on serrapeptase and

it was gone which was a surprise cause I was taking the serrapeptase for a

different issue, that it also helped with. A year ago now and it has not

returned. Needed less than half a bottle.

As you can see I have immune issues that are not resolved, but we shall see

what ozone will do for this.

Arrow

---- Original Message -----

> From: " gypsy rose " <gypsy___rose@...>

> <oxyplus >

> Sent: Monday, April 10, 2006 9:14 PM

> Subject: Peru / aortal flutter/ inflammation of the knee

> > he had no idea what I was talking about. Too bad for him and me and my

> > brother. He is just not interested. When I mentioned ozone a long time

> ago to him he said he had no idea what that was either and said he had

never heard of it.

> >

> > I did get the MRI out of him but I did not go for the x-ray and I am not

> > filling the prescription. Am going to call tomorrow to schedule the MRI

> and

> > am wondering what I could do in the meantime to help with the pain

(minor)

> > and fluid/inflammation. I remember Wobenzyme enzymes discussed

here in the past for inflammation in the joints. Don't really know what else to

try but am adverse to filling this prescription especially since he mentioned

> > stomach problems would be associated with it.

> >

> > GypsyRose

> >

> >

> >

> > From: " summitflyer2003 " <bluesky@...>

> > Reply-oxyplus

> > oxyplus

> > Subject: Re: Ozone and circulation

> > Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 17:02:25 -0000

> >

> > Hi Gypsy Rose.You seem to have gone to all the places we went to

> > on our last trip to Peru.Sorry to hear that nothing worked very well

> > to alleviate the altitude sickness.I was also very sick from the

> > altitude,especially in the Colca Valley area.

> > Sorry that I cannot provide much info on your brothers condition.

> > Since his health problems are maybe psychosomatic,I can only suggest

> > meditation.About 30 years ago,I also had problems that were mostly

> > related to stress.I would suggest that we are all different and we

> > need to work out/dissolve our karma so to speak,a little bit at a

> > time.I found meditation to work very well for this situation.

> > Be well and all the best to you.

> > Regards

> > Guy

> >

> > - In oxyplus , " gypsy rose " <gypsy___rose@> wrote:

> > >

> > >Hi,

> > >I'm back from my trip to Peru and just wanted to say that the oxygen

> > >supplements did not help much, if at all, with altitude sickness. They

> > >worked great for jet lag which I've always experienced when flying

> > anywhere

> > >and I did not have it at all going or coming home. As far as altitude

> > >sickness, I did all the right things - no caffiene, no alchohol, no

> > >carbonated drinks, no sugar or heavy foods. I took the Vitamin O

> > and DMG

> > >and even, finally, an over the counter medication for altitude

> > sickness and

> > >nothing helped. It just had to run it's course and go away on it's

> > own. It

> > >happened to me three times on all three occassions that I was in high

> > >altitude in the defferent regions of the country where I visited and

> > lasted

> > >approximately 1 day each time and manifested itself in different

> > ways each

> > >time from stomache cramps and nausia to vomiting and diahrea all

> > accompanied

> > >by tiredness, difficulty breathing and headaches. I suffered

> > through it

> > >though and managed to hike the Inca Trail into Machu Picchu and

> > enjoy my

> > >visits to Lake Titicacca and Colca Canyon. Those were the highest

> > places on

> > >my trip. So, I really wish I had something better to report as far

> > as the

> > >supplements I was taking but they do actually work for some poeple

> > and I

> > >was only one of three people that got ill from the altitude out of

> > 11 people

> > >on the trip. Some people just aren't bothered by it at all.

> > >Go figure!

> > >

> > >On another note, my brother has been having general achiness in back

> > and

> > >chest and a panic attack recently. He went to the doctor for

> > testing and

> > >was diagnosed with a condition called an aortal flutter. He is taking

> > >Digoxin to regulate the rythym and Warfarin Sodium Tabs to thin his

> > blood.

> > > The doctor sounded very optimistic, especially considering that

> > his chest

> > >x-ray came out good. There are blood work results pending and a heart

> > >'echo' appointment today. The drugs being prescribed are for a

> > short term,

> > >hopefully. If the rythym regulates itself, he can come off the

> > Digoxin.

> > >The blood thinner is to prevent blood clotting which is an effect of

> > the

> > >flutter. Also, a complication could be that the flutter speeds up

> > and he

> > >would need to be shocked. Doesn't sound fun. I was reading the recent

> > >posts on serrapeptase and how it is good for blood clots and was

> > wondering

> > >if anyone has any insight about aortal flutters and/or these drugs the

> > >doctors have my brother on. Also, I believe, and my brother tends

> > to agree

> > >that this condition that he is experiencing is psychosomatic and

> > it's his

> > >mentallity that is doing him in. He is a huge worrier and has

> > internal

> > >stress that he is not even consciously aware of most of the time.

> > He does

> > >not do well with change and has has some major changes going on in

> > his life

> > >recently. This is how he's dealing with it, he's making himself

> > ill. How

> > >do you go about changing the way you think and how your mind works?

I

> > >suggested he go on a nice long vacation, take up yoga, see a counselor,

> > >etc.. I really don't know what to tell him but this is really

> > serious now

> > >when it's causing him to have heart problems. Any thoughts? I

> > would really

> > >appreciate some input here.

> > >GypsyRose

> > >

> > >

> > >From: " boy " <jhprice@>

> > >Reply-oxyplus

> > ><oxyplus >

> > >Subject: Re: Ozone and circulation - thanks, Donna

> > >Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 15:08:19 -0500

> > >

> > >Sounds wonderful, and I confess my lack of full knowledge of

> > serrapeptase.

> > >I will look into it immediately. You come up with some great products,

> > >Donna, and I

> > >always appreciate your input. Thank you once again.

> > >You know, my mother-in-law has early emphysema but is too

> > bull-headed to

> > >stop

> > >smoking much to my wife's concern. This might help her.

> > >jp

> > >

> > > Hi JP.

> > >

> > > Personally I prefer serrapeptase to EDTA

> > >

> > > Not only does it clean out the arteries quickly, it also cleans

> > out scar

> > >tissue and fibroid cysts in breasts and uterous. It also eliminates

> > >inflammation everywhere in the body, which is why Neenah

recommended

> > it for

> > >carpel tunnel. It also eliminates or greatly reduces varicose

> > veins and

> > >eliminates blood clots. It is phenomenal for lung issues like

> > asbestosis

> > >and emphysema and cyctic fibrosis.

> > >

> > > The benefits are vast and varied and so are the testimonies. Here

> > is must

> > >one of my most favorite:

> > >

> > > " The first dramatic effect that I experienced was with a man in

> > his 60's

> > >who had been a heavy smoker for many years. His wife wheeled him

> > from a

> > >special van and into my pharmacy. He was very breathless in his

> > voice and

> > >was difficult to understand because he had emphysema and chronic

> > obstructive

> > >pulmonary disease (COPD). These are considered to be irreversible

> > damage to

> > >the linings of the lungs, usually caused by smoking or toxic

> > enviroments.

> > >Whereas asthma may be considered reversible, COPD is an irreversible

> > >disease. Normally with this, the only thing we can do is to relieve

> > or help

> > >with, say, and oxygen tank or sprays to open the airways, or steroid

> > sprays

> > >that help to stop inflammation. This man said he had heard me on

> > the BBC

> > >radio program talking about the studies, saying that it had helped to

> > >maintain the airways of people with breathing problems by helping to

> > break

> > >down the damaged tissue that had built up over their lifetime,

> > whether due

> > >to smoking or things like working with chemicals. He told me he was on

> > >sprays, on oxygen , and on antibiotics every two weeks, as he was

> > always

> > >getting bad infections, and breathlessly told me he wanted to try

> > >Serrapeptase. To begin with, he took two 20,000 iu tablets on an empty

> > >stomach, four times per day. Later he reduced to four per day of

> > the 40.000

> > >iu capsules and finally, as a maintanance, he reduced to a couple

> > per day.

> > >

> > > Three weeks later the door opened, and this man, whom I had met

> > only once

> > >(sitting in a wheel chair) walked in and said, in a completely clear

> > voice,

> > >with no breathlessness, " Do you remember me? I was in three weeks

> > ago with

> > >my wife. " I had to apologize that I see so many people, and could

> > he remind

> > >me. He then reminded me that he was the person with emphysema/

COPD.

> > This

> > >6' tall person, who had been in a wheelchair previously, had marched

> > out of

> > >his van, no wife with him, no wheelchair with him, and spoke to me in a

> > >clear voice. He told me that in the early days, so much rubbish was

> > coming

> > >up that he thought his lungs might be disintegrating, but he soon

> > realized

> > >that it was a big clearout underway. He started to feel so much

> > better, and

> > >he was no longer on antibiotics, no longer on oxygen cylinders, and

> > he was

> > >no longer using his sprays. He was still smoking ( eee gads!) and

> > he had

> > >booked a holiday to go to Benidorm, in Spain. He is still a regular

> > visitor

> > >to the shop to get supplies. He brings other people along, buttonholes

> > >other people in the shop, and praises Serrapeptase, if he hears them

> > ask

> > >about it. He is still so thrilled after two years of feeling good.

> > " (shared

> > >by Redfern)

> > >

> > > end quote

> > >

> > > It also helps with adhesions

> > > Nephritis

> > > MS

> > > Chronic Cough

> > > Back pain

> > > Knee Pain

> > > Joint pain in general

> > > Asthama

> > > Ankylosing spondylitis

> > > Repetitive Strain Injury

> > > All scars and lesions

> > > Polymyalgia Rheumatica

> > > Fibromyalgia

> > > Enlarged Prostate

> > > Leg Ulcers

> > > Diabetic Neuropathy

> > > Pulmonary Tuberculosis

> > > Cystic Fibrosis

> > > Inflammatory Bowel Disease

> > > Sinusitis

> > > Deep vein thrombosis

> > > and more.

> > >

> > > It also is considered exceptionally anti aging due to it's anti

> > >inflammatory capabilities.

> > >

> > > As an up and comming Drugless Practitioner (smile) I plan to

> > recommend

> > >that people do this product for at least a few months out of the

> > year to

> > >keep their artieries clear, as a preventative measure. Heart

> > disease is so

> > >much easier to prevent than it is to turn around.

> > >

> > > Serrapetase is not expensive, is easy to take and does just

> > amazing stuff.

> > > It is truly an Excellent Thing.

> > >

> > > If anyone wants more info they can contact me off list at

> > >excellenthings@

> > >

> > > The down side of EDTA for me is that it doesn't differentiate

> > between good

> > >minerals and bad metals. It is a good thing, but not an excellent

> > thing.

> > >In my opinion. Serrapetase cleans out the arteries just as well and

> > does so

> > >much more. And if a person wants to eliminate heavy metals then

> > cellular

> > >zeolite or fulvic acids will do the trick just as well or better

> > than EDTA.

> > >

> > > Blessings

> > > Donna

> > > Re: Ozone and circulation

> > >

> > >

> > > I have done ozone saunas for about 6 years.

> > > To coin a phrase, everything I know about ozone

> > > saunas, I learned from Saul. Oral EDTA - learned

> > > about that at an acupuncture seminar! It helped

> > > the speaker's parents and I order it from DeeCee

> > > Labs.

> > > jp

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

Try serrapeptase,it worked really well for my knee problem.As a matter

of fact it worked within a few days.This stuff is almost miraculous

when it comes to inflamation and pain for the joints.I have not heard

of any side effects.If any of you know of any please post.Otherwise

it is not expensive and is a natural enzyme.It is said to be very good

to remove plaque also.

Regards to all....Guy

>

> In regards to inflammation of the knee. I have had some experience

with this.

> CMO will likely take care of it. I had severe inflamation of the knees

> preventing me from walking back in 94. There was also fluid under ...

[Guest guest]

Try serrapeptase,it worked really well for my knee problem.As a matter

of fact it worked within a few days.This stuff is almost miraculous

when it comes to inflamation and pain for the joints.I have not heard

of any side effects.If any of you know of any please post.Otherwise

it is not expensive and is a natural enzyme.It is said to be very good

to remove plaque also.

Regards to all....Guy

>

> In regards to inflammation of the knee. I have had some experience

with this.

> CMO will likely take care of it. I had severe inflamation of the knees

> preventing me from walking back in 94. There was also fluid under ...

[Guest guest]

Do you have a link to purchase it please?

Re: inflammation of the knee

Try serrapeptase,it worked really well for my knee problem.As a matter

of fact it worked within a few days.This stuff is almost miraculous

when it comes to inflamation and pain for the joints.I have not heard

of any side effects.If any of you know of any please post.Otherwise

it is not expensive and is a natural enzyme.It is said to be very good

to remove plaque also.

Regards to all....Guy

>

> In regards to inflammation of the knee. I have had some experience

with this.

> CMO will likely take care of it. I had severe inflamation of the knees

> preventing me from walking back in 94. There was also fluid under ...

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