Re: Intro -The Power of Detoxing

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Kerri~

I was feeling just like you describe until a few week ago - I detoxed

my body and started taking supplements and vitamins, etc., and this is

the most important thing...drinking LOTS of water. I feel almost

normal again! I know it's mainly the hydration, because yesterday I

had to drive up to Pasadena for a meeting, and didn't drink my usual

amount of water (didn't want to have to make multiple stops!) and by 4

in the afternoon, I was just shot!

I won't be able to start treatment until at least April due to

insurance issues, so I am trying to get, and stay as healthy as

possible beforehand. Since I detoxed (not only stopped alcohol, fast

food, processed food, etc but also got them out of my system!) and

started " super-hydrating " , it has made all the difference.

I know that ALL of the junk isn't out of my body (fat cells store

toxins for years) but much of it is. While you are detoxing, you will

feel like crap...I warn you. Your skin will break out, you will have

diarrhea, BUT that is the body ridding itself of poison. While you are

getting rid of poison and replacing it with good stuff (water, organic

food, supplements) your body goes through a transition period and then

you come out " on the other side " ...feeling much better. I now have no

craving for alcohol, fast food, etc. I tried to take a bite of a

whopper a few weeks ago, and it tasted like garbage. Couldn't wait to

get a hold of some fruit salad!

I have lost 11 lbs, and someone at work said to me the other day " what

are you doing? you look great! " . Just 2 months ago I looked bloated,

dark circles under eyes, etc. Now skin is glowing, eyes are clear,

weight is finally coming off. I am starting to feel less like a

" person with a disease " , and now I feel like socializing again.

Good Luck!

> > > >

> > > > Hi Sue,

> > > >

> > > > Thanks for the nice welcome.

> > > >

> > > > I stopped drinking in the early 90's after a bad alcohol

> > > experience. Two (strong) drinks knocked me on my butt and I was

> > sick

> > > for several days afterwards. That was enough for me so I haven't

> > had

> > > an alcoholic beverage since. Makes me wonder if the disease was

> > > present at that time.... probably!

> > > >

> > > > I'll be considering everything that I eat, drink or medicate

> > with

> > > very carefully from now on. I just wish I could have found out

> > about

> > > this much, much earlier. I'm hoping that if there is liver damage

> > > that it'll be minimal or none at all.

> > > >

> > > > I've gotten hold of a few meditation CDs to try to reduce stress

> > > and will be giving one or two a try later today. I don't work

> > outside

> > > of our home so that's a plus in a lot of ways insofar as this

> > disease

> > > is concerned. I do some website maintenance and graphic editing

> > here

> > > at home on occasion and those tasks can be done at my convenience -

> >

> > > this is good, too.

> > > >

> > > > I'll be paying very close attention to all posts within the

> > group!

> > > I'm sure I'm going to learn lots from everyone here.

> > > >

> > > > Thanks again,

> > > >

> > > > -Laurie

> > > >

> > > > Re: Intro

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > > Hi Laurie!

> > > > >

> > > > > Welcome to the Group! You are in the right place...I was right

> > > where

> > > > > you are just 3 months ago - shocked, scared and confused. I

> > will

> > > tell

> > > > > you that knowledge is power for sure. This group will help you

> > a

> > > > > lot,and I also encourage you to find a support group in your

> > area.

> > > > >

> > > > > If you haven't already - Stop drinking alcohol, even Nyquil,

> > > etc.! And

> > > > > start eating medicinally, remembering everything you consume,

> > > inhale,

> > > > > etc. can either help or hurt your liver.

> > > > >

> > > > > Read everything you can, and get used to to the idea that you

> > MUST

> > > > > become your own advocate for your health. Don't be surprised

> > if,

> > > at

> > > > > times, you feel like you know more about your body, symptoms

> > and

> > > the

> > > > > disease than your own doctor.

> > > > >

> > > > > Be positive, and embrace your faith in God. This will help

> > more

> > > than

> > > > > you can imagine. Learn to breathe, really breathe, in through

> > your

> > > > > nose, and out through your mouth. Not only will this relax

> > you, it

> > > > > actually massages and stimulates the liver!

> > > > >

> > > > > I know it is hard to relax, but you have to - stress weakens

> > the

> > > > > immune system and that is something you don't need!

> > > > >

> > > > > Finally - listen to Jackie, Janet, Liz and the other folks in

> > this

> > > > > group who have been there, done that. No question is too small

> > or

> > > big,

> > > > > and if they don't know the answer they try and find out!

> > > > >

> > > > > God Bless You,

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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Sharon,

I am not a big proponent of " products " , especially if you are trying

to accomplish what is essentially a simple act. So, I did not buy any

of those " liver cleanse " products in the stores! Many of them just

encourage diarrhea, and you don't need to spend $12 on THAT!

I am not saying that they are " bad " , it's just that if you take some

time to study all of the labels, they mainly contain things such as

silymarin (milk thistle), dandelion, choline and lots of other things

that I have already integrated into my diet and supplement " plan " . I

am not advocating that you do what I do (check with your doctor), and

Lord knows I an not a health professional, but I read a lot. And I

keep to the KISS principle.

I learned that the function of the liver is to cleanse, so you would

be " cleansing the cleanser " if you do what many of these " liver

cleanse " products advise. Sounds kinda funny! Also it's a short term

solution. So what I did was make the liver better able to it's job by

committing to a lifestyle change that will be perpetual...not just a

weekend " when-I-can-stay-near-the-bathroom " type of thing. Of course,

in the beginning, that's exactly what it is, as you are taking in

mainly liquid to try and flush out as many toxins that way as you can.

There are some books out there (such as Dr. Cabot's book), and

lots of good info in them, but often the author has some side agenda,

such as selling their own " liver tonic " or what have you. A really

great book (and it does also recommend certain products, but the tie

in isn't obvious) is The Hep C Help Book. One of the authors, Dr. Gish

is an ESTEEMED liver doc up in San Francisco, and the other author is

a TCM (traditional Chinese Medicine) expert. They mention a lot of

excellent food for the liver. So, get a book that not only talks about

" detoxing " , but about " liver health " in particular. You aren't an

alcoholic or drug addict just trying to clean yourself up after a

binge, you are a person with a chronic illness who is making a

lifestyle change.

It's not only by eliminating waste that your body cleanses itself of

toxins, but through the pores as well. If you can get to a sauna (The

Hep C Help book advocates a dry sauna, I believe - as opposed to a

steam bath), it is great to do this. Exercising, to the extent

possible, will also make you sweat. Obviously, while you do all of

this expelling of toxins, you are also putting good stuff into your

body, such as water of course, but I also take about 2 oz of

wheatgrass a day (fresh squeezed). All of the grasses (barley grass,

wheat grass, etc.) are great for the liver. If you can't get fresh

squeezed, go to the health food store and get some " super green " or

other green foods supplement, or Odwalla Super Food juice.

I am writing too much, sorry to ramble...just one last thing...soda

(cokes for those in the South, pop for mid-westerners) is one of the

WORST things you can put into your body, along with processed meats

which contain nitrates. The junk in these " foods " stays in your fat

cells and contibute to the development of cancer, deplete the calcium

in your bones, etc. Get this junk OUT of you, and DO NOT put anymore

in! I used to love my Diet Pepsi, but I love my pomagranate juice even

more because of the good it does for my body.

Hope that helps!

> Kerri~

>

> I was feeling just like you describe until a few week ago - I detoxed

> my body and started taking supplements and vitamins, etc., and this is

> the most important thing...drinking LOTS of water. I feel almost

> normal again! I know it's mainly the hydration, because yesterday I

> had to drive up to Pasadena for a meeting, and didn't drink my usual

> amount of water (didn't want to have to make multiple stops!) and by 4

> in the afternoon, I was just shot!

>

> I won't be able to start treatment until at least April due to

> insurance issues, so I am trying to get, and stay as healthy as

> possible beforehand. Since I detoxed (not only stopped alcohol, fast

> food, processed food, etc but also got them out of my system!) and

> started " super-hydrating " , it has made all the difference.

>

> I know that ALL of the junk isn't out of my body (fat cells store

> toxins for years) but much of it is. While you are detoxing, you will

> feel like crap...I warn you. Your skin will break out, you will have

> diarrhea, BUT that is the body ridding itself of poison. While you are

> getting rid of poison and replacing it with good stuff (water, organic

> food, supplements) your body goes through a transition period and then

> you come out " on the other side " ...feeling much better. I now have no

> craving for alcohol, fast food, etc. I tried to take a bite of a

> whopper a few weeks ago, and it tasted like garbage. Couldn't wait to

> get a hold of some fruit salad!

>

> I have lost 11 lbs, and someone at work said to me the other day " what

> are you doing? you look great! " . Just 2 months ago I looked bloated,

> dark circles under eyes, etc. Now skin is glowing, eyes are clear,

> weight is finally coming off. I am starting to feel less like a

> " person with a disease " , and now I feel like socializing again.

>

> Good Luck!

>

>

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That will be cool! It sound funny but I can't wait for my first shot!!

I want to let this dragon know that i mean business. First I have to

let the insurance company know that i mean business, lol!

> > > > >

> > > > > Hi Sue,

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks for the nice welcome.

> > > > >

> > > > > I stopped drinking in the early 90's after a bad alcohol

> > > > experience. Two (strong) drinks knocked me on my butt and I was

> > > sick

> > > > for several days afterwards. That was enough for me so I haven't

> > > had

> > > > an alcoholic beverage since. Makes me wonder if the disease was

> > > > present at that time.... probably!

> > > > >

> > > > > I'll be considering everything that I eat, drink or medicate

> > > with

> > > > very carefully from now on. I just wish I could have found out

> > > about

> > > > this much, much earlier. I'm hoping that if there is liver damage

> > > > that it'll be minimal or none at all.

> > > > >

> > > > > I've gotten hold of a few meditation CDs to try to reduce

stress

> > > > and will be giving one or two a try later today. I don't work

> > > outside

> > > > of our home so that's a plus in a lot of ways insofar as this

> > > disease

> > > > is concerned. I do some website maintenance and graphic editing

> > > here

> > > > at home on occasion and those tasks can be done at my

convenience -

> > >

> > > > this is good, too.

> > > > >

> > > > > I'll be paying very close attention to all posts within the

> > > group!

> > > > I'm sure I'm going to learn lots from everyone here.

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks again,

> > > > >

> > > > > -Laurie

> > > > >

> > > > > Re: Intro

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > Hi Laurie!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Welcome to the Group! You are in the right place...I was

right

> > > > where

> > > > > > you are just 3 months ago - shocked, scared and confused. I

> > > will

> > > > tell

> > > > > > you that knowledge is power for sure. This group will help

you

> > > a

> > > > > > lot,and I also encourage you to find a support group in your

> > > area.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > If you haven't already - Stop drinking alcohol, even Nyquil,

> > > > etc.! And

> > > > > > start eating medicinally, remembering everything you consume,

> > > > inhale,

> > > > > > etc. can either help or hurt your liver.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Read everything you can, and get used to to the idea that you

> > > MUST

> > > > > > become your own advocate for your health. Don't be surprised

> > > if,

> > > > at

> > > > > > times, you feel like you know more about your body, symptoms

> > > and

> > > > the

> > > > > > disease than your own doctor.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Be positive, and embrace your faith in God. This will help

> > > more

> > > > than

> > > > > > you can imagine. Learn to breathe, really breathe, in through

> > > your

> > > > > > nose, and out through your mouth. Not only will this relax

> > > you, it

> > > > > > actually massages and stimulates the liver!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I know it is hard to relax, but you have to - stress weakens

> > > the

> > > > > > immune system and that is something you don't need!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Finally - listen to Jackie, Janet, Liz and the other folks in

> > > this

> > > > > > group who have been there, done that. No question is too

small

> > > or

> > > > big,

> > > > > > and if they don't know the answer they try and find out!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > God Bless You,

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ---------------------------------

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> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Jackie

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ---------------------------------

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> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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Oh Sharon, you rebel with your peptomints! LOL. What are peptomints?

They sound good, I want some!

The cranberry juice is great, isn't it?! And the treadmill is my fave.

I think your lifestyle is very healthy, and I think you are going to

do great. I have to tell you something " funny " that my GI told me the

other day...

When I was there to talk about tx, when to start,etc, I asked the doc

about how he would treat my sides (I learned this from my " home

girls " , Janet, Jax, Liz and Anne), and got the answers that I was

looking for. But he also told me that in his experience, it is the

healthy-living ones, like us, who don't tolerate tx as well, because

we are used to being healthy and we notice every side effect. He said

that it's the people who have abused their bodies who seem to " sail

right through tx " . This is because they are used to feeling like crap,

I guess?

But, how does that explain Ally, who has stuck with going to the gym

at 5 am every day through tx?

It's an interesting theory though. For the record, I plan to keep

trying to be healthy and hopefully that will help me go through tx.

And you do the same and we will see how far that gets us!

> > Kerri~

> >

> > I was feeling just like you describe until a few week ago - I detoxed

> > my body and started taking supplements and vitamins, etc., and this is

> > the most important thing...drinking LOTS of water. I feel almost

> > normal again! I know it's mainly the hydration, because yesterday I

> > had to drive up to Pasadena for a meeting, and didn't drink my usual

> > amount of water (didn't want to have to make multiple stops!) and by 4

> > in the afternoon, I was just shot!

> >

> > I won't be able to start treatment until at least April due to

> > insurance issues, so I am trying to get, and stay as healthy as

> > possible beforehand. Since I detoxed (not only stopped alcohol, fast

> > food, processed food, etc but also got them out of my system!) and

> > started " super-hydrating " , it has made all the difference.

> >

> > I know that ALL of the junk isn't out of my body (fat cells store

> > toxins for years) but much of it is. While you are detoxing, you will

> > feel like crap...I warn you. Your skin will break out, you will have

> > diarrhea, BUT that is the body ridding itself of poison. While you are

> > getting rid of poison and replacing it with good stuff (water, organic

> > food, supplements) your body goes through a transition period and then

> > you come out " on the other side " ...feeling much better. I now have no

> > craving for alcohol, fast food, etc. I tried to take a bite of a

> > whopper a few weeks ago, and it tasted like garbage. Couldn't wait to

> > get a hold of some fruit salad!

> >

> > I have lost 11 lbs, and someone at work said to me the other day " what

> > are you doing? you look great! " . Just 2 months ago I looked bloated,

> > dark circles under eyes, etc. Now skin is glowing, eyes are clear,

> > weight is finally coming off. I am starting to feel less like a

> > " person with a disease " , and now I feel like socializing again.

> >

> > Good Luck!

> >

> >

> > ---------------------------------

> > Everyone is raving about the all-new beta.

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Jackie

>

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Try and see if you can use Dr. Najerian, he is with Dr. Stanton's

group. Dr. Najerian is great...I am very impressed.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Hi Sue,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thanks for the nice welcome.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I stopped drinking in the early 90's after a bad alcohol

> > > > > experience. Two (strong) drinks knocked me on my butt and I was

> > > > sick

> > > > > for several days afterwards. That was enough for me so I

haven't

> > > > had

> > > > > an alcoholic beverage since. Makes me wonder if the disease was

> > > > > present at that time.... probably!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I'll be considering everything that I eat, drink or medicate

> > > > with

> > > > > very carefully from now on. I just wish I could have found out

> > > > about

> > > > > this much, much earlier. I'm hoping that if there is liver

damage

> > > > > that it'll be minimal or none at all.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I've gotten hold of a few meditation CDs to try to reduce

> stress

> > > > > and will be giving one or two a try later today. I don't work

> > > > outside

> > > > > of our home so that's a plus in a lot of ways insofar as this

> > > > disease

> > > > > is concerned. I do some website maintenance and graphic editing

> > > > here

> > > > > at home on occasion and those tasks can be done at my

> convenience -

> > > >

> > > > > this is good, too.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I'll be paying very close attention to all posts within the

> > > > group!

> > > > > I'm sure I'm going to learn lots from everyone here.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thanks again,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > -Laurie

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Re: Intro

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > Hi Laurie!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Welcome to the Group! You are in the right place...I was

> right

> > > > > where

> > > > > > > you are just 3 months ago - shocked, scared and confused. I

> > > > will

> > > > > tell

> > > > > > > you that knowledge is power for sure. This group will help

> you

> > > > a

> > > > > > > lot,and I also encourage you to find a support group in

your

> > > > area.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > If you haven't already - Stop drinking alcohol, even

Nyquil,

> > > > > etc.! And

> > > > > > > start eating medicinally, remembering everything you

consume,

> > > > > inhale,

> > > > > > > etc. can either help or hurt your liver.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Read everything you can, and get used to to the idea

that you

> > > > MUST

> > > > > > > become your own advocate for your health. Don't be

surprised

> > > > if,

> > > > > at

> > > > > > > times, you feel like you know more about your body,

symptoms

> > > > and

> > > > > the

> > > > > > > disease than your own doctor.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Be positive, and embrace your faith in God. This will help

> > > > more

> > > > > than

> > > > > > > you can imagine. Learn to breathe, really breathe, in

through

> > > > your

> > > > > > > nose, and out through your mouth. Not only will this relax

> > > > you, it

> > > > > > > actually massages and stimulates the liver!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I know it is hard to relax, but you have to - stress

weakens

> > > > the

> > > > > > > immune system and that is something you don't need!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Finally - listen to Jackie, Janet, Liz and the other

folks in

> > > > this

> > > > > > > group who have been there, done that. No question is too

> small

> > > > or

> > > > > big,

> > > > > > > and if they don't know the answer they try and find out!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > God Bless You,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > ---------------------------------

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> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Jackie

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > ---------------------------------

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> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

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> > impossible with a smile

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> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

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> > email and get things done faster.

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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