Re: Re: confused with son's statements

[Guest guest]

Hi Judy,

I KNOW someone else has posted about this very issue in the past.

Saying the opposite of what they really mean. Hopefully they will

respond, because I thought it was a compulsion they were doing. " If I

say the opposite of what I really want to say, nothing bad will happen. "

When my daughter's vomit thoughts were at their worst, she had a

compulsion of picking out 2 shirts in the morning and decided which one

she really wanted to wear--and then wearing the opposite--so she

wouldn't vomit, of course! Seems like the same type of thought pattern

your son is having. That would drive me crazy all day! Hugs to you!

Dina

[Guest guest]

Hi Sabine,

You know I remember that episode in Spongebob well.! I know he saw it a few

times.

You could be right about that!

He drives me nuts alright! He was doing it again tonight. I said, " You need

to pee before bed " He screamed and hollered he didn't need to go. I told him I'd

count to 3 and if he didn't go, I'd call Santa.(lol, that time of year for me to

use that one) He came in and said, " I told you I needed to go " with this really

mad face and he was crying. Than he wouldn't go to bed, so I told him again

about counting to 3 and calling Santa.So than he says " You know I wanted to go

to bed " I don't know if it's just plain defiance, but why would he cry ?

I can't take much more of this. It just never ends.

Thank you for your support

Hugs

Judy

[Guest guest]

Hi Dina,

I thought someone else had said something about this in the past also.

It never ends. He has gained alot of weight so maybe he needs a med raise.All

day, he'll say, " I hate you " Than a minute later he's crying and saying " No, I

love you " " I'm sorry "

He's been so whiny, and crying over everything lately also, which is how

his " bad thoughts " started the first time.It is as though he is confused when he

says this stuff, almost like he NEEDS to do it. Maybe it is a compulsion.It's so

hard with him being only 5. I'm afraid if I start asking him questions and

digging it might make him worse.

My dd doesn't have any compulsions, only anxiety if she doesn't follow her

rituals, and with my son it's like a whole different issue.

Well, thanks so much for your support!

Hugs

Judy

[Guest guest]

Judy,

I totally understand the madnessfactor here - I guess the " mom will get mad

with this one factor " must be about 100 on the inofficial Madmom-scale ( of

course 100 is highest).

That is a tough one and I bet emotionally draining. I am not a behavioralist

but I do not think that it is defiance because of his crying and more desperate

behavior(?). But although it could be an ocish thing I am not sure it sounds

strange to me , but I am not 5 y old. The problem with that age is, that it is

so hard to figure out what is going on in general. I've been through stuff with

my dd at that age as well - not easy.

Are you seeing somebody who can have a look at him and figure out what this

might be? Perhaps before the holidays? I know how the " I can't take that much

longer " feels , the constant stress can really get to me too. Now that

Thanksgiving is straight ahead some may have appointments, today was my lucky

day . I have been trying to get a psychiatrist appointment for more than a week

after the ER visit with my dd. Today somebody called and can see us on Wednesday

- I guess everybody else is travelling or getting ready for the holiday. My kids

had a very intense Sponge Bob phase for some while, I guess my dd was your son's

age *ggg* and they drove my crazy imitating those voices.

Anyway - Santa doesn't work here anymore, my dd discovered that there is no

Santa. Yeah, that is not funny with your son and I hope that it will pass or you

will figure out what to do.

I would give quite something for some weeks without any kind of health related

problems -

Big Hugs

sabine

jchabot <jchabot@...> wrote:

Hi Sabine,

You know I remember that episode in Spongebob well.! I know he saw it a few

times.

You could be right about that!

He drives me nuts alright! He was doing it again tonight. I said, " You need to

pee before bed " He screamed and hollered he didn't need to go. I told him I'd

count to 3 and if he didn't go, I'd call Santa.(lol, that time of year for me to

use that one) He came in and said, " I told you I needed to go " with this really

mad face and he was crying. Than he wouldn't go to bed, so I told him again

about counting to 3 and calling Santa.So than he says " You know I wanted to go

to bed " I don't know if it's just plain defiance, but why would he cry ?

I can't take much more of this. It just never ends.

Thank you for your support

Hugs

Judy

[Guest guest]

Judy,

I just read your answer to Dina and would like to give my 2 cent .

It sounds like his OCD symptoms are really flaring up and since he is on

medication and gained weight I think he needs a follow up with the prescribing

physician. If you have already done so don't pay attention to my cents ...

sabine

jchabot <jchabot@...> wrote:

Hi Dina,

I thought someone else had said something about this in the past also.

It never ends. He has gained alot of weight so maybe he needs a med raise.All

day, he'll say, " I hate you " Than a minute later he's crying and saying " No, I

love you " " I'm sorry "

He's been so whiny, and crying over everything lately also, which is how his " bad

thoughts " started the first time.It is as though he is confused when he says

this stuff, almost like he NEEDS to do it. Maybe it is a compulsion.It's so hard

with him being only 5. I'm afraid if I start asking him questions and digging it

might make him worse.

My dd doesn't have any compulsions, only anxiety if she doesn't follow her

rituals, and with my son it's like a whole different issue.

Well, thanks so much for your support!

Hugs

Judy

[Guest guest]

Just a crazy thought ... what would happen if you told him NOT to do something

( " It's bedtime, so you better not use the bathroom. " )?

P.

jchabot <jchabot@...> wrote:

Hi Sabine,

You know I remember that episode in Spongebob well.! I know he saw it a few

times.

You could be right about that!

He drives me nuts alright! He was doing it again tonight. I said, " You need to

pee before bed " He screamed and hollered he didn't need to go. I told him I'd

count to 3 and if he didn't go, I'd call Santa.(lol, that time of year for me to

use that one) He came in and said, " I told you I needed to go " with this really

mad face and he was crying. Than he wouldn't go to bed, so I told him again

about counting to 3 and calling Santa.So than he says " You know I wanted to go

to bed " I don't know if it's just plain defiance, but why would he cry ?

I can't take much more of this. It just never ends.

Thank you for your support

Hugs

Judy

[Guest guest]

Hi Everyone, I wanted to thank all of you for your responses to my post.

, I tried what you said, and it back fired on me.(lol) He said " Ok, I

don't need to go, " Now he told me today that when he says something he hears it

over and over again in his head.

Can't win!!!!!!

Hugs

Judy

[Guest guest]

good thought! I hadn't heard of this and didn't know what to suggest

it must be so hard - but a little reverse psych - why not try?? -

good luck

eileen

Quoting Price <firecooklmp@...>:

> Just a crazy thought ... what would happen if you told him NOT to do

> something ( " It's bedtime, so you better not use the bathroom. " )?

> P.

>

> jchabot <jchabot@...> wrote:

> Hi Sabine,

> You know I remember that episode in Spongebob well.! I know he saw

> it a few times.

>

> You could be right about that!

>

> He drives me nuts alright! He was doing it again tonight. I

> said, " You need to pee before bed " He screamed and hollered he didn't

> need to go. I told him I'd count to 3 and if he didn't go, I'd call

> Santa.(lol, that time of year for me to use that one) He came in

> and said, " I told you I needed to go " with this really mad face

> and he was crying. Than he wouldn't go to bed, so I told him again

> about counting to 3 and calling Santa.So than he says " You know I

> wanted to go to bed " I don't know if it's just plain defiance, but

> why would he cry ?

> I can't take much more of this. It just never ends.

> Thank you for your support

> Hugs

> Judy

>

>

[Guest guest]

oh dear - guess not - sorry -maybe keep at it??? hey OCD's relentless

why shouldn't we be??? dd just mentioned recently that she re-says

things in her head to make sure they're right - or repeats what I've

said to check too - she told me it used to happen and now doesn't -

but then said she just did it the other day????

eileen

Quoting jchabot <jchabot@...>:

> Hi Everyone, I wanted to thank all of you for your responses to my post.

>

> , I tried what you said, and it back fired on me.(lol) He

> said " Ok, I don't need to go, " Now he told me today that when he

> says something he hears it over and over again in his head.

> Can't win!!!!!!

> Hugs

> Judy

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Oh, well, it was worth a try! I know I used to do that with my kids when they

were toddlers and refusing to do something. Thought it might work here, since I

sometimes think OCD acts like a toddler -- insisting on doing what it wants to

do, regardless of whether it's appropriate or not.

P.

jchabot <jchabot@...> wrote:

Hi Everyone, I wanted to thank all of you for your responses to my

post.

, I tried what you said, and it back fired on me.(lol) He said " Ok, I don't

need to go, " Now he told me today that when he says something he hears it over

and over again in his head.

Can't win!!!!!!

Hugs

Judy