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Hi Stan,

I saw Ethan's video on GR's website 3 mos ago when I started with a

DAN dr for 3.5 year old son Dylan. First off I must commend you on

having the strength to film Ethan when he " wasn't at his best " . I must

tell you that I never thought my son was viral kid. That is until I

got his blood test results and it show elevated levels of MMR titers

and a whopping over 1200+ for herpes 6. We started Dylan gf-cf (he

isn't a celiac but wanted to remove any possible inflammatory

stuff)..he loved it. Our dr. then gave us a vitamin, probiotic,and

fish oil (I already had Dylan on fish oil) and methyl b-12 cream (I

was too chicken to give the shot). I did see an increase in hand

stimming for Dylan sometime eye stims too (very painful for me to

watch). Dylan has been in EI since 18 mos and transitioned to a

special nursery school in fall of last year. He is doing very well

but the language is WAY behind. He gets the methyl b-12 shots noe (I

got over myself) and glutathione cream. My dr. suggested that we move

onto ACTOS and the VALTREX. I wante dto go a little more natural and

would like to try the OLE. I know you went the VALTREX route, was

there a reason you opted for that over OLE??? I am also afraid of the

regression (which I see some days with Dylan and it freaks me out)and

the rashes, etc. How did you deal??? I don't know if metally I could

handle making him sick. Also do you have any experience with ACTOS,

(my dr. thinks it will help DYlan with his methylation cycle)? Thanks

again for Ethan's video...it gave me so much hope. I still watch it

when I am at a low point. BIG HUGS to him for being such a trooper

and beating the " beast " back!

Debbie Stone

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Hi Debbie,

I have not found a doctor yet who is seeing great things with Actos

(besides Marvin Boris MD, the doctor who did the origional study).

It's worth a try, but I would try LDN before ACTOS. We do not have

one good ACTOS report here, but we do have some with LDN.

I opt for Valtrex because it does more than just go after viruses.

It modulates Adenosine and it DOES cross the blood brain barrier.

Additionally, many of these viruses can take up residence in the

liver and Valtrex turns into acyclovir in the liver... making it a

very potent antihepatic therapy.

If you are afraid of a healing-regression, avoiding Valtrex may not

help. We often see a similar response with natural antivirals

including OLE and Virastop.

Let us know what you end up doing.

- Stan

>

> Hi Stan,

> I saw Ethan's video on GR's website 3 mos ago when I started with a

> DAN dr for 3.5 year old son Dylan. First off I must commend you on

> having the strength to film Ethan when he " wasn't at his best " . I

must

> tell you that I never thought my son was viral kid. That is until

I

> got his blood test results and it show elevated levels of MMR

titers

> and a whopping over 1200+ for herpes 6. We started Dylan gf-cf (he

> isn't a celiac but wanted to remove any possible inflammatory

> stuff)..he loved it. Our dr. then gave us a vitamin, probiotic,and

> fish oil (I already had Dylan on fish oil) and methyl b-12 cream (I

> was too chicken to give the shot). I did see an increase in hand

> stimming for Dylan sometime eye stims too (very painful for me to

> watch). Dylan has been in EI since 18 mos and transitioned to a

> special nursery school in fall of last year. He is doing very well

> but the language is WAY behind. He gets the methyl b-12 shots noe

(I

> got over myself) and glutathione cream. My dr. suggested that we

move

> onto ACTOS and the VALTREX. I wante dto go a little more natural

and

> would like to try the OLE. I know you went the VALTREX route, was

> there a reason you opted for that over OLE??? I am also afraid of

the

> regression (which I see some days with Dylan and it freaks me out)

and

> the rashes, etc. How did you deal??? I don't know if metally I

could

> handle making him sick. Also do you have any experience with

ACTOS,

> (my dr. thinks it will help DYlan with his methylation cycle)?

Thanks

> again for Ethan's video...it gave me so much hope. I still watch it

> when I am at a low point. BIG HUGS to him for being such a trooper

> and beating the " beast " back!

> Debbie Stone

>

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Hi Debbie,

I have not found a doctor yet who is seeing great things with Actos

(besides Marvin Boris MD, the doctor who did the origional study).

It's worth a try, but I would try LDN before ACTOS. We do not have

one good ACTOS report here, but we do have some with LDN.

I opt for Valtrex because it does more than just go after viruses.

It modulates Adenosine and it DOES cross the blood brain barrier.

Additionally, many of these viruses can take up residence in the

liver and Valtrex turns into acyclovir in the liver... making it a

very potent antihepatic therapy.

If you are afraid of a healing-regression, avoiding Valtrex may not

help. We often see a similar response with natural antivirals

including OLE and Virastop.

Let us know what you end up doing.

- Stan

>

> Hi Stan,

> I saw Ethan's video on GR's website 3 mos ago when I started with a

> DAN dr for 3.5 year old son Dylan. First off I must commend you on

> having the strength to film Ethan when he " wasn't at his best " . I

must

> tell you that I never thought my son was viral kid. That is until

I

> got his blood test results and it show elevated levels of MMR

titers

> and a whopping over 1200+ for herpes 6. We started Dylan gf-cf (he

> isn't a celiac but wanted to remove any possible inflammatory

> stuff)..he loved it. Our dr. then gave us a vitamin, probiotic,and

> fish oil (I already had Dylan on fish oil) and methyl b-12 cream (I

> was too chicken to give the shot). I did see an increase in hand

> stimming for Dylan sometime eye stims too (very painful for me to

> watch). Dylan has been in EI since 18 mos and transitioned to a

> special nursery school in fall of last year. He is doing very well

> but the language is WAY behind. He gets the methyl b-12 shots noe

(I

> got over myself) and glutathione cream. My dr. suggested that we

move

> onto ACTOS and the VALTREX. I wante dto go a little more natural

and

> would like to try the OLE. I know you went the VALTREX route, was

> there a reason you opted for that over OLE??? I am also afraid of

the

> regression (which I see some days with Dylan and it freaks me out)

and

> the rashes, etc. How did you deal??? I don't know if metally I

could

> handle making him sick. Also do you have any experience with

ACTOS,

> (my dr. thinks it will help DYlan with his methylation cycle)?

Thanks

> again for Ethan's video...it gave me so much hope. I still watch it

> when I am at a low point. BIG HUGS to him for being such a trooper

> and beating the " beast " back!

> Debbie Stone

>

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Hi Stan,

Dr. Ellis my DAN! dr. is in the same practice as Dr. Boris and he

spoke about the study they did. Do I have to do LDN before I do

Valtrex or an anti-viral??? How long did you see the healing

regression with Ethan before he got better? I am concerned because

Dylan is school until August! I would keep him home of course but,

would like to let the school know what the worse case scenario would

be. Also how long did you give Ethan Valtrex??? Sorry for the

questions, new here and new to the protocol. Thank you very much for

responding.

Debbie in NY

> >

> > Hi Stan,

> > I saw Ethan's video on GR's website 3 mos ago when I started with

a

> > DAN dr for 3.5 year old son Dylan. First off I must commend you

on

> > having the strength to film Ethan when he " wasn't at his best " . I

> must

> > tell you that I never thought my son was viral kid. That is

until

> I

> > got his blood test results and it show elevated levels of MMR

> titers

> > and a whopping over 1200+ for herpes 6. We started Dylan gf-cf

(he

> > isn't a celiac but wanted to remove any possible inflammatory

> > stuff)..he loved it. Our dr. then gave us a vitamin,

probiotic,and

> > fish oil (I already had Dylan on fish oil) and methyl b-12 cream

(I

> > was too chicken to give the shot). I did see an increase in hand

> > stimming for Dylan sometime eye stims too (very painful for me to

> > watch). Dylan has been in EI since 18 mos and transitioned to a

> > special nursery school in fall of last year. He is doing very

well

> > but the language is WAY behind. He gets the methyl b-12 shots

noe

> (I

> > got over myself) and glutathione cream. My dr. suggested that we

> move

> > onto ACTOS and the VALTREX. I wante dto go a little more natural

> and

> > would like to try the OLE. I know you went the VALTREX route, was

> > there a reason you opted for that over OLE??? I am also afraid

of

> the

> > regression (which I see some days with Dylan and it freaks me out)

> and

> > the rashes, etc. How did you deal??? I don't know if metally I

> could

> > handle making him sick. Also do you have any experience with

> ACTOS,

> > (my dr. thinks it will help DYlan with his methylation cycle)?

> Thanks

> > again for Ethan's video...it gave me so much hope. I still watch

it

> > when I am at a low point. BIG HUGS to him for being such a

trooper

> > and beating the " beast " back!

> > Debbie Stone

> >

>

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Hi Stan,

Dr. Ellis my DAN! dr. is in the same practice as Dr. Boris and he

spoke about the study they did. Do I have to do LDN before I do

Valtrex or an anti-viral??? How long did you see the healing

regression with Ethan before he got better? I am concerned because

Dylan is school until August! I would keep him home of course but,

would like to let the school know what the worse case scenario would

be. Also how long did you give Ethan Valtrex??? Sorry for the

questions, new here and new to the protocol. Thank you very much for

responding.

Debbie in NY

> >

> > Hi Stan,

> > I saw Ethan's video on GR's website 3 mos ago when I started with

a

> > DAN dr for 3.5 year old son Dylan. First off I must commend you

on

> > having the strength to film Ethan when he " wasn't at his best " . I

> must

> > tell you that I never thought my son was viral kid. That is

until

> I

> > got his blood test results and it show elevated levels of MMR

> titers

> > and a whopping over 1200+ for herpes 6. We started Dylan gf-cf

(he

> > isn't a celiac but wanted to remove any possible inflammatory

> > stuff)..he loved it. Our dr. then gave us a vitamin,

probiotic,and

> > fish oil (I already had Dylan on fish oil) and methyl b-12 cream

(I

> > was too chicken to give the shot). I did see an increase in hand

> > stimming for Dylan sometime eye stims too (very painful for me to

> > watch). Dylan has been in EI since 18 mos and transitioned to a

> > special nursery school in fall of last year. He is doing very

well

> > but the language is WAY behind. He gets the methyl b-12 shots

noe

> (I

> > got over myself) and glutathione cream. My dr. suggested that we

> move

> > onto ACTOS and the VALTREX. I wante dto go a little more natural

> and

> > would like to try the OLE. I know you went the VALTREX route, was

> > there a reason you opted for that over OLE??? I am also afraid

of

> the

> > regression (which I see some days with Dylan and it freaks me out)

> and

> > the rashes, etc. How did you deal??? I don't know if metally I

> could

> > handle making him sick. Also do you have any experience with

> ACTOS,

> > (my dr. thinks it will help DYlan with his methylation cycle)?

> Thanks

> > again for Ethan's video...it gave me so much hope. I still watch

it

> > when I am at a low point. BIG HUGS to him for being such a

trooper

> > and beating the " beast " back!

> > Debbie Stone

> >

>

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Stan, I have asked this before, but never really got an answer...is there a test I can suggest to out pedi to test for viruses, since I asked about the possibility of Valtrex, and her response was.."It's for venereal disease." Thanks! Stan Kurtz <kurtzstan@...> wrote: Hi Debbie,I have not found a doctor yet who is seeing great things with Actos (besides Marvin Boris MD, the doctor who did the origional study). It's worth a try, but I would try LDN before ACTOS. We do not have one good ACTOS report here, but we do have some with LDN.I opt for Valtrex because it does more than just go after viruses. It modulates Adenosine and it DOES cross the blood brain barrier. Additionally, many of these viruses can take up residence in the

liver and Valtrex turns into acyclovir in the liver... making it a very potent antihepatic therapy.If you are afraid of a healing-regression, avoiding Valtrex may not help. We often see a similar response with natural antivirals including OLE and Virastop.Let us know what you end up doing.- Stan>> Hi Stan, > I saw Ethan's video on GR's website 3 mos ago when I started with a> DAN dr for 3.5 year old son Dylan. First off I must commend you on> having the strength to film Ethan when he "wasn't at his best". I must> tell you that I never thought my son was viral kid. That is until I> got his blood test results and it show elevated levels of MMR titers> and a whopping over 1200+ for herpes 6. We started Dylan gf-cf (he> isn't a celiac but wanted to

remove any possible inflammatory> stuff)..he loved it. Our dr. then gave us a vitamin, probiotic,and> fish oil (I already had Dylan on fish oil) and methyl b-12 cream (I> was too chicken to give the shot). I did see an increase in hand> stimming for Dylan sometime eye stims too (very painful for me to> watch). Dylan has been in EI since 18 mos and transitioned to a> special nursery school in fall of last year. He is doing very well> but the language is WAY behind. He gets the methyl b-12 shots noe (I> got over myself) and glutathione cream. My dr. suggested that we move> onto ACTOS and the VALTREX. I wante dto go a little more natural and> would like to try the OLE. I know you went the VALTREX route, was> there a reason you opted for that over OLE??? I am also afraid of the> regression (which I see some days with Dylan

and it freaks me out)and> the rashes, etc. How did you deal??? I don't know if metally I could> handle making him sick. Also do you have any experience with ACTOS,> (my dr. thinks it will help DYlan with his methylation cycle)? Thanks> again for Ethan's video...it gave me so much hope. I still watch it> when I am at a low point. BIG HUGS to him for being such a trooper> and beating the "beast" back!> Debbie Stone>__________________________________________________

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Stan, I have asked this before, but never really got an answer...is there a test I can suggest to out pedi to test for viruses, since I asked about the possibility of Valtrex, and her response was.."It's for venereal disease." Thanks! Stan Kurtz <kurtzstan@...> wrote: Hi Debbie,I have not found a doctor yet who is seeing great things with Actos (besides Marvin Boris MD, the doctor who did the origional study). It's worth a try, but I would try LDN before ACTOS. We do not have one good ACTOS report here, but we do have some with LDN.I opt for Valtrex because it does more than just go after viruses. It modulates Adenosine and it DOES cross the blood brain barrier. Additionally, many of these viruses can take up residence in the

liver and Valtrex turns into acyclovir in the liver... making it a very potent antihepatic therapy.If you are afraid of a healing-regression, avoiding Valtrex may not help. We often see a similar response with natural antivirals including OLE and Virastop.Let us know what you end up doing.- Stan>> Hi Stan, > I saw Ethan's video on GR's website 3 mos ago when I started with a> DAN dr for 3.5 year old son Dylan. First off I must commend you on> having the strength to film Ethan when he "wasn't at his best". I must> tell you that I never thought my son was viral kid. That is until I> got his blood test results and it show elevated levels of MMR titers> and a whopping over 1200+ for herpes 6. We started Dylan gf-cf (he> isn't a celiac but wanted to

remove any possible inflammatory> stuff)..he loved it. Our dr. then gave us a vitamin, probiotic,and> fish oil (I already had Dylan on fish oil) and methyl b-12 cream (I> was too chicken to give the shot). I did see an increase in hand> stimming for Dylan sometime eye stims too (very painful for me to> watch). Dylan has been in EI since 18 mos and transitioned to a> special nursery school in fall of last year. He is doing very well> but the language is WAY behind. He gets the methyl b-12 shots noe (I> got over myself) and glutathione cream. My dr. suggested that we move> onto ACTOS and the VALTREX. I wante dto go a little more natural and> would like to try the OLE. I know you went the VALTREX route, was> there a reason you opted for that over OLE??? I am also afraid of the> regression (which I see some days with Dylan

and it freaks me out)and> the rashes, etc. How did you deal??? I don't know if metally I could> handle making him sick. Also do you have any experience with ACTOS,> (my dr. thinks it will help DYlan with his methylation cycle)? Thanks> again for Ethan's video...it gave me so much hope. I still watch it> when I am at a low point. BIG HUGS to him for being such a trooper> and beating the "beast" back!> Debbie Stone>__________________________________________________

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First, if you look print out the references in the FILES section of

this group that talk about herpes and autism that are in the medical

literature, you doc should be able to put together that some of our

kids have herpes viruses. Valtrex is not just for VD, it also works

for encephilitis as well since it crosses the blood brain barrier.

Try to get your doc up to speed, but you might have to switch to a

DAN! doc to get this done.

- Stan

> >

> > Hi Stan,

> > I saw Ethan's video on GR's website 3 mos ago when I started

with a

> > DAN dr for 3.5 year old son Dylan. First off I must commend you

on

> > having the strength to film Ethan when he " wasn't at his best " .

I

> must

> > tell you that I never thought my son was viral kid. That is

until

> I

> > got his blood test results and it show elevated levels of MMR

> titers

> > and a whopping over 1200+ for herpes 6. We started Dylan gf-cf

(he

> > isn't a celiac but wanted to remove any possible inflammatory

> > stuff)..he loved it. Our dr. then gave us a vitamin,

probiotic,and

> > fish oil (I already had Dylan on fish oil) and methyl b-12 cream

(I

> > was too chicken to give the shot). I did see an increase in hand

> > stimming for Dylan sometime eye stims too (very painful for me to

> > watch). Dylan has been in EI since 18 mos and transitioned to a

> > special nursery school in fall of last year. He is doing very

well

> > but the language is WAY behind. He gets the methyl b-12 shots

noe

> (I

> > got over myself) and glutathione cream. My dr. suggested that

we

> move

> > onto ACTOS and the VALTREX. I wante dto go a little more

natural

> and

> > would like to try the OLE. I know you went the VALTREX route,

was

> > there a reason you opted for that over OLE??? I am also afraid

of

> the

> > regression (which I see some days with Dylan and it freaks me

out)

> and

> > the rashes, etc. How did you deal??? I don't know if metally I

> could

> > handle making him sick. Also do you have any experience with

> ACTOS,

> > (my dr. thinks it will help DYlan with his methylation cycle)?

> Thanks

> > again for Ethan's video...it gave me so much hope. I still watch

it

> > when I am at a low point. BIG HUGS to him for being such a

trooper

> > and beating the " beast " back!

> > Debbie Stone

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

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First, if you look print out the references in the FILES section of

this group that talk about herpes and autism that are in the medical

literature, you doc should be able to put together that some of our

kids have herpes viruses. Valtrex is not just for VD, it also works

for encephilitis as well since it crosses the blood brain barrier.

Try to get your doc up to speed, but you might have to switch to a

DAN! doc to get this done.

- Stan

> >

> > Hi Stan,

> > I saw Ethan's video on GR's website 3 mos ago when I started

with a

> > DAN dr for 3.5 year old son Dylan. First off I must commend you

on

> > having the strength to film Ethan when he " wasn't at his best " .

I

> must

> > tell you that I never thought my son was viral kid. That is

until

> I

> > got his blood test results and it show elevated levels of MMR

> titers

> > and a whopping over 1200+ for herpes 6. We started Dylan gf-cf

(he

> > isn't a celiac but wanted to remove any possible inflammatory

> > stuff)..he loved it. Our dr. then gave us a vitamin,

probiotic,and

> > fish oil (I already had Dylan on fish oil) and methyl b-12 cream

(I

> > was too chicken to give the shot). I did see an increase in hand

> > stimming for Dylan sometime eye stims too (very painful for me to

> > watch). Dylan has been in EI since 18 mos and transitioned to a

> > special nursery school in fall of last year. He is doing very

well

> > but the language is WAY behind. He gets the methyl b-12 shots

noe

> (I

> > got over myself) and glutathione cream. My dr. suggested that

we

> move

> > onto ACTOS and the VALTREX. I wante dto go a little more

natural

> and

> > would like to try the OLE. I know you went the VALTREX route,

was

> > there a reason you opted for that over OLE??? I am also afraid

of

> the

> > regression (which I see some days with Dylan and it freaks me

out)

> and

> > the rashes, etc. How did you deal??? I don't know if metally I

> could

> > handle making him sick. Also do you have any experience with

> ACTOS,

> > (my dr. thinks it will help DYlan with his methylation cycle)?

> Thanks

> > again for Ethan's video...it gave me so much hope. I still watch

it

> > when I am at a low point. BIG HUGS to him for being such a

trooper

> > and beating the " beast " back!

> > Debbie Stone

> >

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