Re: Pleo Not as an antifungal/gut fermentation and skin blisters

[Guest guest]

Hi , just a note re rash and acidic stools - our son had the red

circle almost continuously since birth, somethimes it would get really

bad, look like burnt skin, but it disappeared once we started LDN. have

you tried that yet? I read another post mentioning the same thing

happening with LDN.

We also saw his skin burn through/come up in blisters, managed to trace

it down to food: CURRANTS or raisins, especially yellow ones, do it

every time. I am not sure that it is down to yeast (if currants feed

yeast), probably more down to some kind of fermentation happening in the

gut... could that be happening with Valtrex?

My thinking here re: it not being a solely yeast issue is that we saw

lots of yeast with LDN and still no rash or burns on bottom, and the red

circle disappeared around that time.

Natasa

>

> Hello everyone

>

> I've been a part of this group for about two weeks now and I amazed at

the

> amount of information that flows thru here. Keep it up!

>

> We are on day 5 of Valtrex and I have read several posts regarding the

use

> of antifungals when you're on antivirals. Our DAN dr. suggested we

use Pleo

> Not as an antifungal. I'm just wondering if anyone else has used this

> because I have not seen it mentioned as a recommendation for an

antifungal.

> I'm worried that we are using something that isn't strong enough.

>

> Just an fyi - we have yet to see any regression from Valtrex. His

cheeks

> have been a rosy red and he seems to be more lethargic than normal.

Today

> he got a bad diaper rash - actually looks like someone whipped him

across

> his groin area. Big red welts popped up. I am wondering if this is a

> die-off? We've had this happen before that his stool seems so acidic

that

> it burns him. We have never really been able to figure out what is

going on

> when this happens.

>

> Thanks for the wonderful information!

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi , just a note re rash and acidic stools - our son had the red

circle almost continuously since birth, somethimes it would get really

bad, look like burnt skin, but it disappeared once we started LDN. have

you tried that yet? I read another post mentioning the same thing

happening with LDN.

We also saw his skin burn through/come up in blisters, managed to trace

it down to food: CURRANTS or raisins, especially yellow ones, do it

every time. I am not sure that it is down to yeast (if currants feed

yeast), probably more down to some kind of fermentation happening in the

gut... could that be happening with Valtrex?

My thinking here re: it not being a solely yeast issue is that we saw

lots of yeast with LDN and still no rash or burns on bottom, and the red

circle disappeared around that time.

Natasa

>

> Hello everyone

>

> I've been a part of this group for about two weeks now and I amazed at

the

> amount of information that flows thru here. Keep it up!

>

> We are on day 5 of Valtrex and I have read several posts regarding the

use

> of antifungals when you're on antivirals. Our DAN dr. suggested we

use Pleo

> Not as an antifungal. I'm just wondering if anyone else has used this

> because I have not seen it mentioned as a recommendation for an

antifungal.

> I'm worried that we are using something that isn't strong enough.

>

> Just an fyi - we have yet to see any regression from Valtrex. His

cheeks

> have been a rosy red and he seems to be more lethargic than normal.

Today

> he got a bad diaper rash - actually looks like someone whipped him

across

> his groin area. Big red welts popped up. I am wondering if this is a

> die-off? We've had this happen before that his stool seems so acidic

that

> it burns him. We have never really been able to figure out what is

going on

> when this happens.

>

> Thanks for the wonderful information!

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Natasa thought I'd mention the red ring has been here almost all the

time, there are few instances, like 5 days in 30 that we don't have

to apply Balmex. Thanks for the dope on LDN taking it away. Did it

go away in days or weeks?

Happy Mother's Day to all the moms out there!

Gayatri

> >

> > Hello everyone

> >

> > I've been a part of this group for about two weeks now and I

amazed at

> the

> > amount of information that flows thru here. Keep it up!

> >

> > We are on day 5 of Valtrex and I have read several posts

regarding the

> use

> > of antifungals when you're on antivirals. Our DAN dr. suggested

we

> use Pleo

> > Not as an antifungal. I'm just wondering if anyone else has

used this

> > because I have not seen it mentioned as a recommendation for an

> antifungal.

> > I'm worried that we are using something that isn't strong enough.

> >

> > Just an fyi - we have yet to see any regression from Valtrex.

His

> cheeks

> > have been a rosy red and he seems to be more lethargic than

normal.

> Today

> > he got a bad diaper rash - actually looks like someone whipped

him

> across

> > his groin area. Big red welts popped up. I am wondering if

this is a

> > die-off? We've had this happen before that his stool seems so

acidic

> that

> > it burns him. We have never really been able to figure out what

is

> going on

> > when this happens.

> >

> > Thanks for the wonderful information!

> >

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Natasa thought I'd mention the red ring has been here almost all the

time, there are few instances, like 5 days in 30 that we don't have

to apply Balmex. Thanks for the dope on LDN taking it away. Did it

go away in days or weeks?

Happy Mother's Day to all the moms out there!

Gayatri

> >

> > Hello everyone

> >

> > I've been a part of this group for about two weeks now and I

amazed at

> the

> > amount of information that flows thru here. Keep it up!

> >

> > We are on day 5 of Valtrex and I have read several posts

regarding the

> use

> > of antifungals when you're on antivirals. Our DAN dr. suggested

we

> use Pleo

> > Not as an antifungal. I'm just wondering if anyone else has

used this

> > because I have not seen it mentioned as a recommendation for an

> antifungal.

> > I'm worried that we are using something that isn't strong enough.

> >

> > Just an fyi - we have yet to see any regression from Valtrex.

His

> cheeks

> > have been a rosy red and he seems to be more lethargic than

normal.

> Today

> > he got a bad diaper rash - actually looks like someone whipped

him

> across

> > his groin area. Big red welts popped up. I am wondering if

this is a

> > die-off? We've had this happen before that his stool seems so

acidic

> that

> > it burns him. We have never really been able to figure out what

is

> going on

> > when this happens.

> >

> > Thanks for the wonderful information!

> >

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Natasa-

Thanks for suggesting LDN. I have heard of it but I know nothing about what it is supposed to do. BTW - my son does not have a red ring around his anus - his anus is only slightly red. The redness is mainly on the inside of his thighs, his scrotum and a little bit of his penis. Like I mentioned before, this is something that comes and goes and not frequently. It's happened maybe 4 times since birth. I have no idea what to attribute it to therefore, no idea how to treat it.

I appreciate the feedback and I"ll look into LDN.

From: mb12 valtrex [mailto:mb12 valtrex ] On Behalf Of natasa778Sent: Sunday, May 14, 2006 5:55 AMmb12 valtrex Subject: Re: Pleo Not as an antifungal/gut fermentation and skin blisters

Hi , just a note re rash and acidic stools - our son had the redcircle almost continuously since birth, somethimes it would get reallybad, look like burnt skin, but it disappeared once we started LDN. haveyou tried that yet? I read another post mentioning the same thinghappening with LDN.We also saw his skin burn through/come up in blisters, managed to traceit down to food: CURRANTS or raisins, especially yellow ones, do itevery time. I am not sure that it is down to yeast (if currants feedyeast), probably more down to some kind of fermentation happening in thegut... could that be happening with Valtrex?My thinking here re: it not being a solely yeast issue is that we sawlots of yeast with LDN and still no rash or burns on bottom, and the redcircle disappeared around that time.Natasa>> Hello everyone>> I've been a part of this group for about two weeks now and I amazed atthe> amount of information that flows thru here. Keep it up!>> We are on day 5 of Valtrex and I have read several posts regarding theuse> of antifungals when you're on antivirals. Our DAN dr. suggested weuse Pleo> Not as an antifungal. I'm just wondering if anyone else has used this> because I have not seen it mentioned as a recommendation for anantifungal.> I'm worried that we are using something that isn't strong enough.>> Just an fyi - we have yet to see any regression from Valtrex. Hischeeks> have been a rosy red and he seems to be more lethargic than normal. Today> he got a bad diaper rash - actually looks like someone whipped himacross> his groin area. Big red welts popped up. I am wondering if this is a> die-off? We've had this happen before that his stool seems so acidicthat> it burns him. We have never really been able to figure out what isgoing on> when this happens.>> Thanks for the wonderful information!>> >

[Guest guest]

Hi Natasa-

Thanks for suggesting LDN. I have heard of it but I know nothing about what it is supposed to do. BTW - my son does not have a red ring around his anus - his anus is only slightly red. The redness is mainly on the inside of his thighs, his scrotum and a little bit of his penis. Like I mentioned before, this is something that comes and goes and not frequently. It's happened maybe 4 times since birth. I have no idea what to attribute it to therefore, no idea how to treat it.

I appreciate the feedback and I"ll look into LDN.

From: mb12 valtrex [mailto:mb12 valtrex ] On Behalf Of natasa778Sent: Sunday, May 14, 2006 5:55 AMmb12 valtrex Subject: Re: Pleo Not as an antifungal/gut fermentation and skin blisters

Hi , just a note re rash and acidic stools - our son had the redcircle almost continuously since birth, somethimes it would get reallybad, look like burnt skin, but it disappeared once we started LDN. haveyou tried that yet? I read another post mentioning the same thinghappening with LDN.We also saw his skin burn through/come up in blisters, managed to traceit down to food: CURRANTS or raisins, especially yellow ones, do itevery time. I am not sure that it is down to yeast (if currants feedyeast), probably more down to some kind of fermentation happening in thegut... could that be happening with Valtrex?My thinking here re: it not being a solely yeast issue is that we sawlots of yeast with LDN and still no rash or burns on bottom, and the redcircle disappeared around that time.Natasa>> Hello everyone>> I've been a part of this group for about two weeks now and I amazed atthe> amount of information that flows thru here. Keep it up!>> We are on day 5 of Valtrex and I have read several posts regarding theuse> of antifungals when you're on antivirals. Our DAN dr. suggested weuse Pleo> Not as an antifungal. I'm just wondering if anyone else has used this> because I have not seen it mentioned as a recommendation for anantifungal.> I'm worried that we are using something that isn't strong enough.>> Just an fyi - we have yet to see any regression from Valtrex. Hischeeks> have been a rosy red and he seems to be more lethargic than normal. Today> he got a bad diaper rash - actually looks like someone whipped himacross> his groin area. Big red welts popped up. I am wondering if this is a> die-off? We've had this happen before that his stool seems so acidicthat> it burns him. We have never really been able to figure out what isgoing on> when this happens.>> Thanks for the wonderful information!>> >

[Guest guest]

, you might want to join the LDN group

Autism_LDN

there is a document in their file section called sth like 'LDN and

Immunity' that explains a lot of what it is supposed to be doing.

My two cents are that the main benefits we see with it are due to it

actually regulating neuronal (as well as GI and immune) cell membrane

potential, but the important thing is that lots of people see gains with

it one way or another. Sadly not all kids respond, and some only see

small gains, but it is definitely worth a try.

There are also parental reports in the group's database files.

Natasa

> >

> > Hello everyone

> >

> > I've been a part of this group for about two weeks now and I amazed

at

> the

> > amount of information that flows thru here. Keep it up!

> >

> > We are on day 5 of Valtrex and I have read several posts regarding

the

> use

> > of antifungals when you're on antivirals. Our DAN dr. suggested we

> use Pleo

> > Not as an antifungal. I'm just wondering if anyone else has used

this

> > because I have not seen it mentioned as a recommendation for an

> antifungal.

> > I'm worried that we are using something that isn't strong enough.

> >

> > Just an fyi - we have yet to see any regression from Valtrex. His

> cheeks

> > have been a rosy red and he seems to be more lethargic than normal.

> Today

> > he got a bad diaper rash - actually looks like someone whipped him

> across

> > his groin area. Big red welts popped up. I am wondering if this is

a

> > die-off? We've had this happen before that his stool seems so

acidic

> that

> > it burns him. We have never really been able to figure out what is

> going on

> > when this happens.

> >

> > Thanks for the wonderful information!

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

, you might want to join the LDN group

Autism_LDN

there is a document in their file section called sth like 'LDN and

Immunity' that explains a lot of what it is supposed to be doing.

My two cents are that the main benefits we see with it are due to it

actually regulating neuronal (as well as GI and immune) cell membrane

potential, but the important thing is that lots of people see gains with

it one way or another. Sadly not all kids respond, and some only see

small gains, but it is definitely worth a try.

There are also parental reports in the group's database files.

Natasa

> >

> > Hello everyone

> >

> > I've been a part of this group for about two weeks now and I amazed

at

> the

> > amount of information that flows thru here. Keep it up!

> >

> > We are on day 5 of Valtrex and I have read several posts regarding

the

> use

> > of antifungals when you're on antivirals. Our DAN dr. suggested we

> use Pleo

> > Not as an antifungal. I'm just wondering if anyone else has used

this

> > because I have not seen it mentioned as a recommendation for an

> antifungal.

> > I'm worried that we are using something that isn't strong enough.

> >

> > Just an fyi - we have yet to see any regression from Valtrex. His

> cheeks

> > have been a rosy red and he seems to be more lethargic than normal.

> Today

> > he got a bad diaper rash - actually looks like someone whipped him

> across

> > his groin area. Big red welts popped up. I am wondering if this is

a

> > die-off? We've had this happen before that his stool seems so

acidic

> that

> > it burns him. We have never really been able to figure out what is

> going on

> > when this happens.

> >

> > Thanks for the wonderful information!

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Actually, that's an intersting observation Natasa. It could easily be a

combination of

metals, viral die off and yeast, but either way we see it mellow out with an

antifungal so I

don't suggest people try it without an antifungal.

- Stan

> >

> > Hello everyone

> >

> > I've been a part of this group for about two weeks now and I amazed at

> the

> > amount of information that flows thru here. Keep it up!

> >

> > We are on day 5 of Valtrex and I have read several posts regarding the

> use

> > of antifungals when you're on antivirals. Our DAN dr. suggested we

> use Pleo

> > Not as an antifungal. I'm just wondering if anyone else has used this

> > because I have not seen it mentioned as a recommendation for an

> antifungal.

> > I'm worried that we are using something that isn't strong enough.

> >

> > Just an fyi - we have yet to see any regression from Valtrex. His

> cheeks

> > have been a rosy red and he seems to be more lethargic than normal.

> Today

> > he got a bad diaper rash - actually looks like someone whipped him

> across

> > his groin area. Big red welts popped up. I am wondering if this is a

> > die-off? We've had this happen before that his stool seems so acidic

> that

> > it burns him. We have never really been able to figure out what is

> going on

> > when this happens.

> >

> > Thanks for the wonderful information!

> >

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Actually, that's an intersting observation Natasa. It could easily be a

combination of

metals, viral die off and yeast, but either way we see it mellow out with an

antifungal so I

don't suggest people try it without an antifungal.

- Stan

> >

> > Hello everyone

> >

> > I've been a part of this group for about two weeks now and I amazed at

> the

> > amount of information that flows thru here. Keep it up!

> >

> > We are on day 5 of Valtrex and I have read several posts regarding the

> use

> > of antifungals when you're on antivirals. Our DAN dr. suggested we

> use Pleo

> > Not as an antifungal. I'm just wondering if anyone else has used this

> > because I have not seen it mentioned as a recommendation for an

> antifungal.

> > I'm worried that we are using something that isn't strong enough.

> >

> > Just an fyi - we have yet to see any regression from Valtrex. His

> cheeks

> > have been a rosy red and he seems to be more lethargic than normal.

> Today

> > he got a bad diaper rash - actually looks like someone whipped him

> across

> > his groin area. Big red welts popped up. I am wondering if this is a

> > die-off? We've had this happen before that his stool seems so acidic

> that

> > it burns him. We have never really been able to figure out what is

> going on

> > when this happens.

> >

> > Thanks for the wonderful information!

> >

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Natasa and group,

Just to be clear, if someone gets what looks to be yeast type issues with

Valtrex, I would

suggest trying to clear it with LDN. LDN may have worked for your child's

chronic issue,

but I wouldn't risk trying it for this considering we have such a good track

record of using

an antifungal along with Valtrex. Maybe if that first line strategy didn't

work, then trying

something else is fine, but I can't say that I have ever seen a post where this

type of thing

didn't clear up when adding an antifungal.

- Stan

> >

> > Hello everyone

> >

> > I've been a part of this group for about two weeks now and I amazed at

> the

> > amount of information that flows thru here. Keep it up!

> >

> > We are on day 5 of Valtrex and I have read several posts regarding the

> use

> > of antifungals when you're on antivirals. Our DAN dr. suggested we

> use Pleo

> > Not as an antifungal. I'm just wondering if anyone else has used this

> > because I have not seen it mentioned as a recommendation for an

> antifungal.

> > I'm worried that we are using something that isn't strong enough.

> >

> > Just an fyi - we have yet to see any regression from Valtrex. His

> cheeks

> > have been a rosy red and he seems to be more lethargic than normal.

> Today

> > he got a bad diaper rash - actually looks like someone whipped him

> across

> > his groin area. Big red welts popped up. I am wondering if this is a

> > die-off? We've had this happen before that his stool seems so acidic

> that

> > it burns him. We have never really been able to figure out what is

> going on

> > when this happens.

> >

> > Thanks for the wonderful information!

> >

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Natasa and group,

Just to be clear, if someone gets what looks to be yeast type issues with

Valtrex, I would

suggest trying to clear it with LDN. LDN may have worked for your child's

chronic issue,

but I wouldn't risk trying it for this considering we have such a good track

record of using

an antifungal along with Valtrex. Maybe if that first line strategy didn't

work, then trying

something else is fine, but I can't say that I have ever seen a post where this

type of thing

didn't clear up when adding an antifungal.

- Stan

> >

> > Hello everyone

> >

> > I've been a part of this group for about two weeks now and I amazed at

> the

> > amount of information that flows thru here. Keep it up!

> >

> > We are on day 5 of Valtrex and I have read several posts regarding the

> use

> > of antifungals when you're on antivirals. Our DAN dr. suggested we

> use Pleo

> > Not as an antifungal. I'm just wondering if anyone else has used this

> > because I have not seen it mentioned as a recommendation for an

> antifungal.

> > I'm worried that we are using something that isn't strong enough.

> >

> > Just an fyi - we have yet to see any regression from Valtrex. His

> cheeks

> > have been a rosy red and he seems to be more lethargic than normal.

> Today

> > he got a bad diaper rash - actually looks like someone whipped him

> across

> > his groin area. Big red welts popped up. I am wondering if this is a

> > die-off? We've had this happen before that his stool seems so acidic

> that

> > it burns him. We have never really been able to figure out what is

> going on

> > when this happens.

> >

> > Thanks for the wonderful information!

> >

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Stan, absolutely!

I did not want to suggest to add LDN in order to deal with

Valtrex-provoked yeast issues (LDN did ADD to our yeast problem in the

beginning). My suggestion was that red skin or blisters possibly don't

belong to the 'yeast' basket of problems at all...

Natasa

> > >

> > > Hello everyone

> > >

> > > I've been a part of this group for about two weeks now and I

amazed at

> > the

> > > amount of information that flows thru here. Keep it up!

> > >

> > > We are on day 5 of Valtrex and I have read several posts regarding

the

> > use

> > > of antifungals when you're on antivirals. Our DAN dr. suggested

we

> > use Pleo

> > > Not as an antifungal. I'm just wondering if anyone else has used

this

> > > because I have not seen it mentioned as a recommendation for an

> > antifungal.

> > > I'm worried that we are using something that isn't strong enough.

> > >

> > > Just an fyi - we have yet to see any regression from Valtrex. His

> > cheeks

> > > have been a rosy red and he seems to be more lethargic than

normal.

> > Today

> > > he got a bad diaper rash - actually looks like someone whipped him

> > across

> > > his groin area. Big red welts popped up. I am wondering if this

is a

> > > die-off? We've had this happen before that his stool seems so

acidic

> > that

> > > it burns him. We have never really been able to figure out what

is

> > going on

> > > when this happens.

> > >

> > > Thanks for the wonderful information!

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

>