Guest guest Posted April 15, 2006 Report Share Posted April 15, 2006 Stan, I looked over the caveman diet and hoped you could make a suggestion. Our little guy is vegan, by choice. He won't touch meat. His protein consists of whey protein we add to his rice milk, beans and peanut butter (which is a low IGg reactive food for him). We have tried every other nut substitute in a peanut butter form to no avail. He eats no vegetables, only pears, apples, grapes, strawberries and bananas (another IGg low reactive food). He eats all kinds of rice, potato products which are not allowed on the SCD. The beans are not allowed on SCD either. Have you run into this with other kids. He is only 25 lbs and has been at that weight for 1 year (failure to thrive) He is 2.5 years old. I know that Elaine's book lists some bread/muffin recipes for nut flours, what other substitutes for proteins, chips, french fries are there? Thanks in advance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 16, 2006 Report Share Posted April 16, 2006 , Not Stan here and I don't know if these would be acceptable on SCD, but have you considered hemp hearts? They're a great source of protein and omega fatty acids at the same time. Pretty easy to use, at least here. Anita > > Stan, > > I looked over the caveman diet and hoped you could make a suggestion. Our little guy is vegan, by choice. He won't touch meat. His protein consists of whey protein we add to his rice milk, beans and peanut butter (which is a low IGg reactive food for him). We have tried every other nut substitute in a peanut butter form to no avail. He eats no vegetables, only pears, apples, grapes, strawberries and bananas (another IGg low reactive food). He eats all kinds of rice, potato products which are not allowed on the SCD. The beans are not allowed on SCD either. Have you run into this with other kids. He is only 25 lbs and has been at that weight for 1 year (failure to thrive) He is 2.5 years old. I know that Elaine's book lists some bread/muffin recipes for nut flours, what other substitutes for proteins, chips, french fries are there? > > Thanks in advance > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 16, 2006 Report Share Posted April 16, 2006 , Not Stan here and I don't know if these would be acceptable on SCD, but have you considered hemp hearts? They're a great source of protein and omega fatty acids at the same time. Pretty easy to use, at least here. Anita > > Stan, > > I looked over the caveman diet and hoped you could make a suggestion. Our little guy is vegan, by choice. He won't touch meat. His protein consists of whey protein we add to his rice milk, beans and peanut butter (which is a low IGg reactive food for him). We have tried every other nut substitute in a peanut butter form to no avail. He eats no vegetables, only pears, apples, grapes, strawberries and bananas (another IGg low reactive food). He eats all kinds of rice, potato products which are not allowed on the SCD. The beans are not allowed on SCD either. Have you run into this with other kids. He is only 25 lbs and has been at that weight for 1 year (failure to thrive) He is 2.5 years old. I know that Elaine's book lists some bread/muffin recipes for nut flours, what other substitutes for proteins, chips, french fries are there? > > Thanks in advance > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 16, 2006 Report Share Posted April 16, 2006 What is hemp hearts? Happy Easter to everyone!!!! -----Original Message-----From: mb12 valtrex [mailto:mb12 valtrex ]On Behalf Of Anita KugelstadtSent: Sunday, April 16, 2006 1:01 AMmb12 valtrex Subject: Re: SCD help,Not Stan here and I don't know if these would be acceptable on SCD, but have you considered hemp hearts? They're a great source of protein and omega fatty acids at the same time. Pretty easy to use, at least here.Anita>> Stan, > > I looked over the caveman diet and hoped you could make a suggestion. Our little guy is vegan, by choice. He won't touch meat. His protein consists of whey protein we add to his rice milk, beans and peanut butter (which is a low IGg reactive food for him). We have tried every other nut substitute in a peanut butter form to no avail. He eats no vegetables, only pears, apples, grapes, strawberries and bananas (another IGg low reactive food). He eats all kinds of rice, potato products which are not allowed on the SCD. The beans are not allowed on SCD either. Have you run into this with other kids. He is only 25 lbs and has been at that weight for 1 year (failure to thrive) He is 2.5 years old. I know that Elaine's book lists some bread/muffin recipes for nut flours, what other substitutes for proteins, chips, french fries are there?> > Thanks in advance> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 16, 2006 Report Share Posted April 16, 2006 What is hemp hearts? Happy Easter to everyone!!!! -----Original Message-----From: mb12 valtrex [mailto:mb12 valtrex ]On Behalf Of Anita KugelstadtSent: Sunday, April 16, 2006 1:01 AMmb12 valtrex Subject: Re: SCD help,Not Stan here and I don't know if these would be acceptable on SCD, but have you considered hemp hearts? They're a great source of protein and omega fatty acids at the same time. Pretty easy to use, at least here.Anita>> Stan, > > I looked over the caveman diet and hoped you could make a suggestion. Our little guy is vegan, by choice. He won't touch meat. His protein consists of whey protein we add to his rice milk, beans and peanut butter (which is a low IGg reactive food for him). We have tried every other nut substitute in a peanut butter form to no avail. He eats no vegetables, only pears, apples, grapes, strawberries and bananas (another IGg low reactive food). He eats all kinds of rice, potato products which are not allowed on the SCD. The beans are not allowed on SCD either. Have you run into this with other kids. He is only 25 lbs and has been at that weight for 1 year (failure to thrive) He is 2.5 years old. I know that Elaine's book lists some bread/muffin recipes for nut flours, what other substitutes for proteins, chips, french fries are there?> > Thanks in advance> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 16, 2006 Report Share Posted April 16, 2006 I've been getting a bit further into the bacterial and fungal (and viral) relationship to failure to thrive and it's interesting (and scarey). There may be a connection not only to the extra mucus created in the gut that inhibits digestion, but it may also be the fungus eating some of the digestive enzymes made by the body. Food addiction to certain foods is also typically a nutrition related and fungal/bacterial related problem. Fungus plus complex carbs (sugars) = alcohol and that is one of the reasons (I believe) that these kids don't want to eat anything else. I would launch a dual approach of combatting the fungus and bacteria and getting proper food in your child. First, as I mentioned the other day... get a juicer. Get some pear and apple in there and mix in some greens like spinach... it's actually pretty sweet with apple and pear. Get more good food in there and get away from complex carbs and grains... they are what's hurting your child (most likely). And don't substitute for chips and fries... remove them. They have no value to your child. You might as well feed your child poison. I am not exadurating. Just about every time a family makes these changes... things magically get better. Additionally, I would get an an antifungal like Diflucan or Amphotericin B asap. Get with your doc and jump on that... I wouldn't wait. If you need evidence you can check your child's tongue for a white coating, his/her face for redness and puffy eyes etc. or just do a OATs test from Great Plains or other and go from there. Add antifungals... mix in probiotics if you'd like, but get the fungus onder control and you'll usually get your child's gut back. - Stan > > Stan, > > I looked over the caveman diet and hoped you could make a suggestion. Our little guy is vegan, by choice. He won't touch meat. His protein consists of whey protein we add to his rice milk, beans and peanut butter (which is a low IGg reactive food for him). We have tried every other nut substitute in a peanut butter form to no avail. He eats no vegetables, only pears, apples, grapes, strawberries and bananas (another IGg low reactive food). He eats all kinds of rice, potato products which are not allowed on the SCD. The beans are not allowed on SCD either. Have you run into this with other kids. He is only 25 lbs and has been at that weight for 1 year (failure to thrive) He is 2.5 years old. I know that Elaine's book lists some bread/muffin recipes for nut flours, what other substitutes for proteins, chips, french fries are there? > > Thanks in advance > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 16, 2006 Report Share Posted April 16, 2006 Substitutes to try: proteins: have you tried making your own pecan nut butter? It has the closest taste to peanut butter and is easily tolerated. Add a little honey to the processor and some light oil until you get the right consistency. A pinch of salt, too. Also, you can try lentils. I add pureed, cooked white beans to all my baked goods. It helps with consistency. I wouldn't worry too much about protein because, with all the nut flours used for baking breads and snacks and the beans, he should be fine. chips: Hard to believe, but pork rinds are an option. They are crunchy and salty. Also, you can deep fry thinly sliced carrots or butternut squash, drain, and salt to get a crunchy snack. french fries: substitute butternut squash (or some other squash) and fry. You can try the oven-bake method but they come out a little mushy. other fruit he might like: asian pears (peel them), kiwis, fresh pineapple Suzanne Woodland Hills On Apr 15, 2006, at 11:00 PM, Anita Kugelstadt wrote: > , > > Not Stan here and I don't know if these would be acceptable on SCD > but have you considered hemp hearts? They're a great source of > protein and omega fatty acids at the same time. Pretty easy to use, > at least here. > > Anita > > > > > > Stan, > > > > I looked over the caveman diet and hoped you could make a > suggestion. Our little guy is vegan, by choice. He won't touch meat. > His protein consists of whey protein we add to his rice milk, beans > and peanut butter (which is a low IGg reactive food for him). We > have tried every other nut substitute in a peanut butter form to no > avail. He eats no vegetables, only pears, apples, grapes, > strawberries and bananas (another IGg low reactive food). He eats > all kinds of rice, potato products which are not allowed on the SCD. > The beans are not allowed on SCD either. Have you run into this with > other kids. He is only 25 lbs and has been at that weight for 1 year > (failure to thrive) He is 2.5 years old. I know that Elaine's book > lists some bread/muffin recipes for nut flours, what other > substitutes for proteins, chips, french fries are there? > > > > Thanks in advance > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 16, 2006 Report Share Posted April 16, 2006 Substitutes to try: proteins: have you tried making your own pecan nut butter? It has the closest taste to peanut butter and is easily tolerated. Add a little honey to the processor and some light oil until you get the right consistency. A pinch of salt, too. Also, you can try lentils. I add pureed, cooked white beans to all my baked goods. It helps with consistency. I wouldn't worry too much about protein because, with all the nut flours used for baking breads and snacks and the beans, he should be fine. chips: Hard to believe, but pork rinds are an option. They are crunchy and salty. Also, you can deep fry thinly sliced carrots or butternut squash, drain, and salt to get a crunchy snack. french fries: substitute butternut squash (or some other squash) and fry. You can try the oven-bake method but they come out a little mushy. other fruit he might like: asian pears (peel them), kiwis, fresh pineapple Suzanne Woodland Hills On Apr 15, 2006, at 11:00 PM, Anita Kugelstadt wrote: > , > > Not Stan here and I don't know if these would be acceptable on SCD > but have you considered hemp hearts? They're a great source of > protein and omega fatty acids at the same time. Pretty easy to use, > at least here. > > Anita > > > > > > Stan, > > > > I looked over the caveman diet and hoped you could make a > suggestion. Our little guy is vegan, by choice. He won't touch meat. > His protein consists of whey protein we add to his rice milk, beans > and peanut butter (which is a low IGg reactive food for him). We > have tried every other nut substitute in a peanut butter form to no > avail. He eats no vegetables, only pears, apples, grapes, > strawberries and bananas (another IGg low reactive food). He eats > all kinds of rice, potato products which are not allowed on the SCD. > The beans are not allowed on SCD either. Have you run into this with > other kids. He is only 25 lbs and has been at that weight for 1 year > (failure to thrive) He is 2.5 years old. I know that Elaine's book > lists some bread/muffin recipes for nut flours, what other > substitutes for proteins, chips, french fries are there? > > > > Thanks in advance > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 21, 2006 Report Share Posted April 21, 2006 I can see how threatening SCD must sound, when he is so small. But... my daughter (age 26) had gotten so thin she looked like she had been in a concentration camp. When we switched to SCD, she couldn't eat pork, stir fry, avacados, onions; a long list of foods just made her sick. When we went SCD, we didn't know how it would work for her. To our joy, little by little, her appitite came back. Now she eats everything on the diet, including the things that made her sick before. She also had a very bad reaction to certain odors, like for example the smell of coffee. Now she can go buy tea at Starbucks without feeling even a little queezy. I don't know what's best for your boy, but my guess would be that SCD may have real value for him. I hope so. and Rena <goldentoe3@...> wrote: What is hemp hearts? Happy Easter to everyone!!!! -----Original Message-----From: mb12 valtrex [mailto:mb12 valtrex ]On Behalf Of Anita KugelstadtSent: Sunday, April 16, 2006 1:01 AMmb12 valtrex Subject: Re: SCD help,Not Stan here and I don't know if these would be acceptable on SCD, but have you considered hemp hearts? They're a great source of protein and omega fatty acids at the same time. Pretty easy to use, at least here.Anita>> Stan, > > I looked over the caveman diet and hoped you could make a suggestion. Our little guy is vegan, by choice. He won't touch meat. His protein consists of whey protein we add to his rice milk, beans and peanut butter (which is a low IGg reactive food for him). We have tried every other nut substitute in a peanut butter form to no avail. He eats no vegetables, only pears, apples, grapes, strawberries and bananas (another IGg low reactive food). He eats all kinds of rice, potato products which are not allowed on the SCD. The beans are not allowed on SCD either. Have you run into this with other kids. He is only 25 lbs and has been at that weight for 1 year (failure to thrive) He is 2.5 years old. I know that Elaine's book lists some bread/muffin recipes for nut flours, what other substitutes for proteins, chips, french fries are there?> > Thanks in advance> How low will we go? Check out Messenger’s low PC-to-Phone call rates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 21, 2006 Report Share Posted April 21, 2006 I can see how threatening SCD must sound, when he is so small. But... my daughter (age 26) had gotten so thin she looked like she had been in a concentration camp. When we switched to SCD, she couldn't eat pork, stir fry, avacados, onions; a long list of foods just made her sick. When we went SCD, we didn't know how it would work for her. To our joy, little by little, her appitite came back. Now she eats everything on the diet, including the things that made her sick before. She also had a very bad reaction to certain odors, like for example the smell of coffee. Now she can go buy tea at Starbucks without feeling even a little queezy. I don't know what's best for your boy, but my guess would be that SCD may have real value for him. I hope so. and Rena <goldentoe3@...> wrote: What is hemp hearts? Happy Easter to everyone!!!! -----Original Message-----From: mb12 valtrex [mailto:mb12 valtrex ]On Behalf Of Anita KugelstadtSent: Sunday, April 16, 2006 1:01 AMmb12 valtrex Subject: Re: SCD help,Not Stan here and I don't know if these would be acceptable on SCD, but have you considered hemp hearts? They're a great source of protein and omega fatty acids at the same time. Pretty easy to use, at least here.Anita>> Stan, > > I looked over the caveman diet and hoped you could make a suggestion. Our little guy is vegan, by choice. He won't touch meat. His protein consists of whey protein we add to his rice milk, beans and peanut butter (which is a low IGg reactive food for him). We have tried every other nut substitute in a peanut butter form to no avail. He eats no vegetables, only pears, apples, grapes, strawberries and bananas (another IGg low reactive food). He eats all kinds of rice, potato products which are not allowed on the SCD. The beans are not allowed on SCD either. Have you run into this with other kids. He is only 25 lbs and has been at that weight for 1 year (failure to thrive) He is 2.5 years old. I know that Elaine's book lists some bread/muffin recipes for nut flours, what other substitutes for proteins, chips, french fries are there?> > Thanks in advance> How low will we go? Check out Messenger’s low PC-to-Phone call rates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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