Guest guest Posted February 15, 2006 Report Share Posted February 15, 2006 I think the " eye rolling " is just a kid/teen thing. All 3 of mine seem to have it, and I know I've caught myself doing it (so can be a " mom " thing too!). I agree that emotions can be hard for Aspies, expressing their own feelings, etc. My OCD/Aspie son is the first to ask me (of all 3 sons) if I'm " hurt/ok " if something happens. He reads emotions well at home with family or others, but I do think he has a harder time with other people maybe. And asking him to express *his* emotions/feelings can sometimes leave him sort of...blank? Like he can't find the words. And this is a person with a great vocabulary too, LOL! My son checks the doors at night too. I don't think he's checking to see if locked, but it's like a routine to make sure the cat is in the house, make sure outside lights off, etc. The door wasn't locked the other night, LOL, so I figure that's not what he checks! > > I just read something in a book about OCD and teens that lit a lightbulb for me. (Every once in a while you have those moments!) > It said the aspies tend to deal with emotions in a physical way. When NT kids are asked how they'd deal with seeing someone hurt or crying, they say they'd come over and talk to the about it. Aspies are more inclined to bring them something for comfort - tea, a gift. Aspies are less likely to deal with their own emotions in a reflective way, but rather in a phsyical way - and this is sometimes where the ocd behaviours can begin. They start a ritualized response to emotion or a 'habit' that turns ocdish. I really think this is what's going on with my son. Just this a.m. I was reminding him yet again to talk with his math teacher about how lost he is in class and I saw his eye-rolling thing start up (his latest 'habit). I think it was a direct conditioned-response to the emotion of stress. > Anyway, it's something I've got to think about a bit. Maybe his response to feeling anxious about things is making him think he can deal with it by checking the doors at night etc. > If that's the case, then I wonder if you'd deal with ocd in aspies differently? > Just throwing my thoughts out there. I know some of you have aspies too. > kimz > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2006 Report Share Posted February 15, 2006 I think the " eye rolling " is just a kid/teen thing. All 3 of mine seem to have it, and I know I've caught myself doing it (so can be a " mom " thing too!). I agree that emotions can be hard for Aspies, expressing their own feelings, etc. My OCD/Aspie son is the first to ask me (of all 3 sons) if I'm " hurt/ok " if something happens. He reads emotions well at home with family or others, but I do think he has a harder time with other people maybe. And asking him to express *his* emotions/feelings can sometimes leave him sort of...blank? Like he can't find the words. And this is a person with a great vocabulary too, LOL! My son checks the doors at night too. I don't think he's checking to see if locked, but it's like a routine to make sure the cat is in the house, make sure outside lights off, etc. The door wasn't locked the other night, LOL, so I figure that's not what he checks! > > I just read something in a book about OCD and teens that lit a lightbulb for me. (Every once in a while you have those moments!) > It said the aspies tend to deal with emotions in a physical way. When NT kids are asked how they'd deal with seeing someone hurt or crying, they say they'd come over and talk to the about it. Aspies are more inclined to bring them something for comfort - tea, a gift. Aspies are less likely to deal with their own emotions in a reflective way, but rather in a phsyical way - and this is sometimes where the ocd behaviours can begin. They start a ritualized response to emotion or a 'habit' that turns ocdish. I really think this is what's going on with my son. Just this a.m. I was reminding him yet again to talk with his math teacher about how lost he is in class and I saw his eye-rolling thing start up (his latest 'habit). I think it was a direct conditioned-response to the emotion of stress. > Anyway, it's something I've got to think about a bit. Maybe his response to feeling anxious about things is making him think he can deal with it by checking the doors at night etc. > If that's the case, then I wonder if you'd deal with ocd in aspies differently? > Just throwing my thoughts out there. I know some of you have aspies too. > kimz > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2006 Report Share Posted February 15, 2006 I thought after I wrote this that 'eye rolling' sounds like what my NT teen daughter has done more and more of late. It's not that. His eyes swing very slowly up to the top of his head half hidden in the lids - almost looks like a seizure, but it's not. It's a variation of the blinking he was doing before. It's very strange looking. He's asked me to show him what it looks like, in an embarassed way, because he knows he's doing it but not sure why or how to stop. There are other tics that we're having investigated for TS. I was just musing that maybe when my son does this 'blank' thing when dealing with emotions, he's expressing it phsyically. Another example - we were talking about 'the big bad future' and his lack of effort in the car the other day and he began clicking the door locks a specific number of times because he said he had to. I just wondered if it one thing led to the other... kimz Re: ocd and AS I think the " eye rolling " is just a kid/teen thing. All 3 of mine seem to have it, and I know I've caught myself doing it (so can be a " mom " thing too!). I agree that emotions can be hard for Aspies, expressing their own feelings, etc. My OCD/Aspie son is the first to ask me (of all 3 sons) if I'm " hurt/ok " if something happens. He reads emotions well at home with family or others, but I do think he has a harder time with other people maybe. And asking him to express *his* emotions/feelings can sometimes leave him sort of...blank? Like he can't find the words. And this is a person with a great vocabulary too, LOL! My son checks the doors at night too. I don't think he's checking to see if locked, but it's like a routine to make sure the cat is in the house, make sure outside lights off, etc. The door wasn't locked the other night, LOL, so I figure that's not what he checks! > > I just read something in a book about OCD and teens that lit a lightbulb for me. (Every once in a while you have those moments!) > It said the aspies tend to deal with emotions in a physical way. When NT kids are asked how they'd deal with seeing someone hurt or crying, they say they'd come over and talk to the about it. Aspies are more inclined to bring them something for comfort - tea, a gift. Aspies are less likely to deal with their own emotions in a reflective way, but rather in a phsyical way - and this is sometimes where the ocd behaviours can begin. They start a ritualized response to emotion or a 'habit' that turns ocdish. I really think this is what's going on with my son. Just this a.m. I was reminding him yet again to talk with his math teacher about how lost he is in class and I saw his eye-rolling thing start up (his latest 'habit). I think it was a direct conditioned-response to the emotion of stress. > Anyway, it's something I've got to think about a bit. Maybe his response to feeling anxious about things is making him think he can deal with it by checking the doors at night etc. > If that's the case, then I wonder if you'd deal with ocd in aspies differently? > Just throwing my thoughts out there. I know some of you have aspies too. > kimz > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2006 Report Share Posted February 15, 2006 Kimz, I do think that when he begins getting anxious he probably does begin to do things like you mentioned, an OCD reaction since he had to click the door locks a specific number of times. The eye thing made me think of when he's asleep, LOL. His eyes are never fully closed once he's really asleep, sort of almost half open and looks like his eyes are rolled up.... With your son, I don't know a lot about tics, but maybe it is some tic or OCD related thing to anxiety, since anxiety/stress can increase both. Thinking back, could get the most *blank*, expressionless face I have ever seen when in some situation he didn't like. Just quick thoughts! > > I thought after I wrote this that 'eye rolling' sounds like what my NT teen daughter has done more and more of late. > It's not that. His eyes swing very slowly up to the top of his head half hidden in the lids - almost looks like a seizure, but it's not. It's a variation of the blinking he was doing before. It's very strange looking. He's asked me to show him what it looks like, in an embarassed way, because he knows he's doing it but not sure why or how to stop. There are other tics that we're having investigated for TS. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2006 Report Share Posted February 15, 2006 Kimz, I do think that when he begins getting anxious he probably does begin to do things like you mentioned, an OCD reaction since he had to click the door locks a specific number of times. The eye thing made me think of when he's asleep, LOL. His eyes are never fully closed once he's really asleep, sort of almost half open and looks like his eyes are rolled up.... With your son, I don't know a lot about tics, but maybe it is some tic or OCD related thing to anxiety, since anxiety/stress can increase both. Thinking back, could get the most *blank*, expressionless face I have ever seen when in some situation he didn't like. Just quick thoughts! > > I thought after I wrote this that 'eye rolling' sounds like what my NT teen daughter has done more and more of late. > It's not that. His eyes swing very slowly up to the top of his head half hidden in the lids - almost looks like a seizure, but it's not. It's a variation of the blinking he was doing before. It's very strange looking. He's asked me to show him what it looks like, in an embarassed way, because he knows he's doing it but not sure why or how to stop. There are other tics that we're having investigated for TS. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2006 Report Share Posted February 15, 2006 Hi Kimz, CBT/ERP basically is the same with neurotypical and spectrum kids. The only difference is that the psychologist needs to explain things in a manner AS kids can understand. For example, my son still needs things explained in a concrete, simple, and easy to understand manner. He's not aspie, but HF autism (however, he's getting closer to neurotypical thanks to LDN. It's truly a miraculous drug for some kids. I just wish it helped with OCD). Extra patience is always helpful too! Tess --- Sympatico Mail <k.zarzour@...> wrote: > I just read something in a book about OCD and teens > that lit a lightbulb for me. (Every once in a while > you have those moments!) > It said the aspies tend to deal with emotions in a > physical way. When NT kids are asked how they'd deal > with seeing someone hurt or crying, they say they'd > come over and talk to the about it. Aspies are more > inclined to bring them something for comfort - tea, > a gift. Aspies are less likely to deal with their > own emotions in a reflective way, but rather in a > phsyical way - and this is sometimes where the ocd > behaviours can begin. They start a ritualized > response to emotion or a 'habit' that turns ocdish. > I really think this is what's going on with my son. > Just this a.m. I was reminding him yet again to talk > with his math teacher about how lost he is in class > and I saw his eye-rolling thing start up (his latest > 'habit). I think it was a direct > conditioned-response to the emotion of stress. > Anyway, it's something I've got to think about a > bit. Maybe his response to feeling anxious about > things is making him think he can deal with it by > checking the doors at night etc. > If that's the case, then I wonder if you'd deal with > ocd in aspies differently? > Just throwing my thoughts out there. I know some of > you have aspies too. > kimz > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2006 Report Share Posted February 15, 2006 ! what's LDN?? kimz Re: ocd and AS Hi Kimz, CBT/ERP basically is the same with neurotypical and spectrum kids. The only difference is that the psychologist needs to explain things in a manner AS kids can understand. For example, my son still needs things explained in a concrete, simple, and easy to understand manner. He's not aspie, but HF autism (however, he's getting closer to neurotypical thanks to LDN. It's truly a miraculous drug for some kids. I just wish it helped with OCD). Extra patience is always helpful too! Tess --- Sympatico Mail <k.zarzour@...> wrote: > I just read something in a book about OCD and teens > that lit a lightbulb for me. (Every once in a while > you have those moments!) > It said the aspies tend to deal with emotions in a > physical way. When NT kids are asked how they'd deal > with seeing someone hurt or crying, they say they'd > come over and talk to the about it. Aspies are more > inclined to bring them something for comfort - tea, > a gift. Aspies are less likely to deal with their > own emotions in a reflective way, but rather in a > phsyical way - and this is sometimes where the ocd > behaviours can begin. They start a ritualized > response to emotion or a 'habit' that turns ocdish. > I really think this is what's going on with my son. > Just this a.m. I was reminding him yet again to talk > with his math teacher about how lost he is in class > and I saw his eye-rolling thing start up (his latest > 'habit). I think it was a direct > conditioned-response to the emotion of stress. > Anyway, it's something I've got to think about a > bit. Maybe his response to feeling anxious about > things is making him think he can deal with it by > checking the doors at night etc. > If that's the case, then I wonder if you'd deal with > ocd in aspies differently? > Just throwing my thoughts out there. I know some of > you have aspies too. > kimz > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2006 Report Share Posted February 15, 2006 Sorry to be off-topic here. There's some research indicating autism (at least for some) is autoimmune (since we have a few autoimmune diseases in my family I believe that may be the connection). Low Dose Naltrexone (a prescription drug) supposedly helps with this. It has only recently been tried on autism. For some it doesn't make a big difference, while for others it's quite amazing (We're seeing some very positive things). Unfortunately, it doesn't seem to help at all with OCD. The only good thing for my son's OCD has been CBT/ERP... and it's a long, slow, process. Interestingly, it's kind of like rewinding a tape. It took awhile for my son's OCD to get where it is now and it's taking quite a bit of time to get better. Tess --- Sympatico Mail <k.zarzour@...> wrote: > ! what's LDN?? > kimz > __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2006 Report Share Posted February 15, 2006 Sorry to be off-topic here. There's some research indicating autism (at least for some) is autoimmune (since we have a few autoimmune diseases in my family I believe that may be the connection). Low Dose Naltrexone (a prescription drug) supposedly helps with this. It has only recently been tried on autism. For some it doesn't make a big difference, while for others it's quite amazing (We're seeing some very positive things). Unfortunately, it doesn't seem to help at all with OCD. The only good thing for my son's OCD has been CBT/ERP... and it's a long, slow, process. Interestingly, it's kind of like rewinding a tape. It took awhile for my son's OCD to get where it is now and it's taking quite a bit of time to get better. Tess --- Sympatico Mail <k.zarzour@...> wrote: > ! what's LDN?? > kimz > __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2006 Report Share Posted February 16, 2006 The girl in passing for normal started ticcing at about 10? She once asked a girl to 'show her' what her tic looked like - she said she never did that again - it was good to know but very disturbing. Her father mocked her and she really had absolutely no idea what was happening to her. (she spends most of the book pointing out all her father's own ocd/TS behaviors) - it crushed her that he mocked her and withdrew his love and acceptance from her when she 'started acting crazy'. > > > > I just read something in a book about OCD and teens that lit a > lightbulb for me. (Every once in a while you have those moments!) > > It said the aspies tend to deal with emotions in a physical way. > When NT kids are asked how they'd deal with seeing someone hurt or > crying, they say they'd come over and talk to the about it. Aspies > are more inclined to bring them something for comfort - tea, a gift. > Aspies are less likely to deal with their own emotions in a > reflective way, but rather in a phsyical way - and this is sometimes > where the ocd behaviours can begin. They start a ritualized response > to emotion or a 'habit' that turns ocdish. I really think this is > what's going on with my son. Just this a.m. I was reminding him yet > again to talk with his math teacher about how lost he is in class > and I saw his eye-rolling thing start up (his latest 'habit). I > think it was a direct conditioned-response to the emotion of stress. > > Anyway, it's something I've got to think about a bit. Maybe his > response to feeling anxious about things is making him think he can > deal with it by checking the doors at night etc. > > If that's the case, then I wonder if you'd deal with ocd in aspies > differently? > > Just throwing my thoughts out there. I know some of you have > aspies too. > > kimz > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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