Vitamin A

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What Vitamin A product are you all using?

Thank you,

Jill

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Mandi,

How much did you give and for how long? Which were the results? Any

side effects?

Thanks a lot,

Elena

> Aboslutely Mimi, thats what we do for Sam. Its pretty bland

tasting, he coped

> well with 20 caps in less than 200mls of watered down pineapple

juice, I

> don;t think you would even notice one

> HTH

> Mandi in UK

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> > Does anyone know if the Twinlabs Allergy A vitamin

> > caps can be opened and sprinkled in juice..my son

> > cannot swallow caps yet.

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> What Vitamin A product are you all using?

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At first just TwinLabs Allergy A. Now I use that, plus also cod liver oil.

Dana

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Hi

For a while we did 10,000iu's per day to check for any reactions and make

sure he tolerated the supp. Then we did 300,000 day 1 and 200,000 day 2 and then

30,000 per day for a few weeks. He was hyper and pingey about 2 hours after

the big doses which lasted about an hour. Other than that no untoward reactions.

We have seen great improvements in skin, bright eyes, increased receptive

language and generaly looking better all round. Still stimming - he taps hand or

bottom jaw. Sam did not have the MMR but chicken pox at 5 months figures

somewhere in his regression. Trying to figure out how to get Lauricidin into him

but will try Biommed CSE's first

HTH

Mandi in UK

> How much did you give and for how long? Which were the results? Any

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> I;m trying to figure out which type of vit a to use. What is the

> difference in CLO and twinlab allergy a?

CLO is cod liver oil. Allergy A contains no fish.

Dana

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In our case neither lol, we used Retinol Acetate form in Twinlabs brand

Allergy A. Another one some use because of its high dose is the MIcelised one

from

www.lef.org

MAndi in UK

PS Beta carotene IS NOT Vit A, it needs to be converted nth ebody to become

it and as most of our kids systems are up the shoot anyways it might convert at

all and then becomes a problem

> I know this has been discussed a lot but when you all are talking

> about megadosing with vitamin A are you using the beta carotene or

> palmitate vitamin A?

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We are using a combination of retinyl acetate and retinyl palmitate.

--- In , " lynetterorer " <l_rorer@h...>

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> I know this has been discussed a lot but when you all are talking

> about megadosing with vitamin A are you using the beta carotene or

> palmitate vitamin A?

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> I know this has been discussed a lot but when you all are talking

> about megadosing with vitamin A are you using the beta carotene or

> palmitate vitamin A?

Beta carotene won't work. Palmitate has been recommended. I used retinyl

acetate as TwinLabs Allergy A.

http://www.danasview.net/vitamina.htm

Dana

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Can I ask what brand Vit A you used?

[ ] Re: Andy -- DMPS/DMSA: which one in this case?

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>> changes from him. His biggest issues: stimming and no language.

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> Have you tried anti-viral? My son's biggest issues were stimming and

> language, and anti-viral eliminated most [but not all] of it. I used

> high dose vitamin A protocol and olive leaf extract [some Lauricidin

> but it did not help as much as the others].

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>> He stims constantly (tapping on his fingers or a piece of paper or

>> anything he can get, verbally stims while he's tapping, runing around

>> circles, tip toe walking, biting on piece of object, ...etc).

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>> impact on him: CFGF diet, virus treatment, FGF/HGF, vitamins,

>> chelation, ...etc.

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> Which vitamins? Certain vitamins made my son worse, others made him

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> Can I ask what brand Vit A you used?

TwinLabs Allergy A.

Dana

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> What is the concern about high doses of Vitamin A? Is this dosage high

> enough for a concern or not?

This is not directly related to your question, but here is info on the

high dose vitamin A protocol for systemic measles virus issues

http://www.danasview.net/vitamina.htm

Dana

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That amount of vitamin A for a child is safe, however just supplementing

with Vit A by itself can have a pro-oxidtive effect. I listen to many

natureopaths and MD's speak on nutrtion every week. The one thing that

is really talked alot about is the dangers of singling out one nutrient.

Things do not work this way in the body, there is a synergistic effect

that must take place, a balance. If you look in nature then you will not

find any one plant or fruit that has only Vitamin A or Vitamin D. If

for some reason the body has become very depleted in a nutrient it is

still advisable to supplement with a synergistic or complimentary blend

and then add additional amount of the missing nutrients. If you do not

know of a particular deficcieny then you can cause one by supplementing

in the single nutrient fashion. Does this make sense, hard to explain

this stuff in type sometimes. GIna

Barbara Soffer wrote:

> Dear Moira and others:

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> I have been reading through the archives and am trying to figure out Andy's

> recommendations about Vitamins A and D. I read that it is necessary daily

> (not multiple times throughout the day. Is it 500u of Vitamin D and

> 25,000iu of Vitamin A? Are these the dosages for a child (40 lbs)?

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> What is the concern about high doses of Vitamin A? Is this dosage high

> enough for a concern or not?

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> Any advice or information is appreciated.

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> Thanks.

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I have in my notes that Andy recommends 500-1000 IU per pound per day.

> Dear Moira and others:

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> I have been reading through the archives and am trying to figure

out Andy's

> recommendations about Vitamins A and D. I read that it is necessary

daily

> (not multiple times throughout the day. Is it 500u of Vitamin D and

> 25,000iu of Vitamin A? Are these the dosages for a child (40 lbs)?

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> What is the concern about high doses of Vitamin A? Is this dosage

high

> enough for a concern or not?

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> Any advice or information is appreciated.

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> Thanks.

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> Barbara

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When my son verbal stims, it is yeast.

I can tell a difference in his stims that actually are when he is

trying out new sounds, and yeast, in that the vocalizations don't get

on my nerves when he is just using his voice and trying out sounds.

When he has yeast however, I get very irritated by (very similar)

sounds. I can tell he has yeast and sometimes, how bad, by how mad I

get listening to him (if at all). That's not very scientific I

guess....

I have never found Vit. A to help with his verbal stims, although, it

helped stop his visuals.

Amy

> I thought that I have read somewhere that Vitamin A can help vocal

> stimming, I am not sure. The only stimming my son (4 yrs old) does

is

> vocal, a humming sound. He does it at all different times, not just

> when he is excited. His OT thinks he does it to help processing,

but

> it is driving me nuts. Some days he does it a little then will

comes

> a day and I swear he does nothing else (like today). I have just

> started my son on B-12 and folinic. I want to give that a chance,

to

> see how it works but I am thinking of added Vitamin A next. Any

> advice? Thank you so much!

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> When taking Vitamin A should the dose be divided throughout the day or

> would taking it once a day be better?

Depends on why you are taking it, and how much.

Dana

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> Can anyone advise me regarding a good Vit A supp with no (or minimal)

> fillers that is NOT derived from cod liver oil. I have finally run out

> of Twinlabs Allergy A for my son. It also has to be available on line

> as I am in Australia. TIA. Mandy

You can browse thru the Online Supplement suppliers list I have here

http://www.danasview.net/parent3.htm#supplements

Dana

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> I'm taking it to raise my Iga and am thinking about taking 50000IU a

day.

My *guess* [i am not a medical doctor] would be to take it in 2 doses,

morning and early afternoon. Watch for signs of toxicity

http://www.danasview.net/vitamina.htm

Dana

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> Just my .02 but Red Palm Oil is wonderful for providing Vitamin A.

Natural

> Vitamin A (beta carotene) needs fat in order to be converted in our

bodies.

> Beta carotene in its natural form doesn't become toxic - yet another

reason,

> imo, for getting beta carotene from natural food sources.

Beta carotene is not vitamin A and has no vitamin A activity whatsoever.

If your body converts it, then you get some vitamin A. However even a

normal healthy person only converts a limited amount. Toxic people

tend not to convert it. Most toxic people need a lot more vitamin A

than even a normal healthy person's body produces from beta carotene.

In addition, beta carotene makes chemically sensitive people much

more sensitive.

> http://www.tropicaltraditions.com/red_palm_oil.htm

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> http://www.wildernessfamilynaturals.com/natural_palm_oil.htm

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> Both of these have good products and reputations. I buy from Wilderness

> Family.

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> Sharon

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> My son gets 600-1100 iu of naturally-occuring vit. A in his CLO

cap each day. We never saw any huge gains from this. I think his

measles overgrowths are just eating that up with ease. We plan to do

the high dose protocol but want THE BEST vitamin A to really do the

job right.

I think right now most people are using Klaire mycellized vitamin A or

something similar that you can find at local health food stores.

> From what I have read, it seems that the acetate form is 15% less

potent that naturally occuring vit. A.

Yes. I used acetate form, and I added 15% to the 400,000 IU daily

requirement.

>> That makes me want natural (which I am thinking is the " cis " from

of A that is recommended on the ARI website. Is that right?).

Or, you can use palmitate or something else. For the two-day

protocol, artificial would work okay.

> The notes from McCandless that I read (Dana, I read this in your

vitamin A section - so you may be able to help clarify this for me)

SEEM to say that palmitate is less preferred and vitamin A from fish

sources is ideal.

When she wrote that page, it was my understanding that she recommended

fish sources for daily maintenance, and palmitate for the high dose

protocol.

>> Since I plan to give the natural form of vit. A aside from the CLO,

it should not have any vit. D and so it would be fine to use at

whatever the right dose for my kiddo is - right?

If you can find a natural source that does not contain vitamin D, you

can use that. Don't use carotene tho.

Dana

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We used the Freeda brand of vit. A palmitate for the high vit. A

dosage protocol and it worked well. I did have to crush up each and

every tablet and mix it with water and give it that way. That was

difficult but since it was only for 2 days...it wasn't all that bad.

It worked though! Now he can only tolerate 5000iu a day so far.

> > Dear Moira and others:

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> > I have been reading through the archives and am trying to figure

> out Andy's

> > recommendations about Vitamins A and D. I read that it is necessary

> daily

> > (not multiple times throughout the day. Is it 500u of Vitamin D and

> > 25,000iu of Vitamin A? Are these the dosages for a child (40 lbs)?

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> > What is the concern about high doses of Vitamin A? Is this dosage

> high

> > enough for a concern or not?

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> > Any advice or information is appreciated.

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> > Thanks.

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> > Barbara

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[Guest guest]

This article explains Vitamin A and Beta-Carotene and how important Vitamins are

for us. a.

Subject: Vitamin A

http://www.exrx.net/Nutrition/Antioxidants/VitaminA.html

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Vitamin A---Sheri Taken from HEALTHY TALK " magazine " ...

Child mortality citations

" There is a " cure " for measles. It is called vitamin A... cod-liver

oil. As

early as 1932 doctors used cod-liver oil to reduce hospital mortality

by 58%,

but then antibiotics became the treatment of fashion, (Clin. Infect.

Dis., Sept.

1994, pg 493) and vitamin A was ignored until 1980. A 1993 study

showed that 72%

of hospitalised measles cases in America are vitamin A deficient, and

the worse

the deficiency the worse the complications and higher the death rate.

(Pediatric

Nursing, Sept./Oct. 96.) Yet doctors and hospitals in New Zealand do

not use

vitamin A. " http://www.ias.org.nz/measles.htm

NEWS: AUTISTIC CHILDREN ARE " WAKING UP " --RICHMOND PEDIATRICIAN MAY

HAVE FOUND

LINK TO VITAMIN A DEFICIENCY AND AUTISM

Journal articles

Orthomolecular Medicine

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http://www.lifeclinic.com/focus/nutrition/vitamin-a.asp Vitamin A Vitamin A, also called retinol, helps your eyes adjust to light changes when you come in from outside and also helps keep your eyes, skin and mucous membranes moist. Vitamin A mostly comes from animal foods, but some plant-based foods supply beta-carotene, which your body then converts into Vitamin A. It also has antioxidant properties that neutralize free radicals in the body that cause tissue and cellular damage. Early information from scientific studies suggests that beta-carotene might help people who already have Coronary Artery

Disease (CAD). The American Heart Association doesn't recommend taking supplements of beta-carotene until more is known, however. Nutritionists categorize vitamins by the materials that a vitamin will dissolve in. There are two categories: water-soluble and fat-soluble vitamins. Fat-soluble vitamins, vitamins A, D, E and K are stored in the fat tissues of the body for a few days to up to six months. If you get too much of a fat-soluble vitamin, it can be stored in your liver and may sometimes cause health problems. Vitamin A is a fat-soluble vitamin. Some people take mega-doses of fat-soluble vitamins, which can lead to toxicity. Eating a normal diet of foods rich in these vitamins won't cause a problem. Remember, you only need small amounts of any vitamin. In the case of vitamin A, overconsumption has been linked with an increased risk of

fractures in postmenopausal women. Some health problems can make it hard for a person's body to absorb these vitamins. If you have a chronic health condition, ask your doctor about whether your vitamin absorption will be affected. Top How Much Vitamin A Is Enough?It's recommended that women consume 800 mcg and men consume 1000 mcg of vitamin A daily. Sources of Vitamin A Top sources of vitamin A include: Beef liver Egg yolk Cheddar cheese Fortified milk Top sources of beta-carotene include: Sweet potato Carrots Pumpkin Cantaloupe Broccoli Apricots Spinach and collard greens Can You Have Too Much or Too Little?Vitamin A deficiency is rare in the

United States, but it can cause night blindness, eye inflammation, diarrhea and other problems. Overconsumption of vitamin A can cause nausea, irritability and blurred vision in its mild form. In addition, the palms of the hands and the bottoms of the feet can turn orange if a person has a high intake of Vitamin A. Vitamin A toxicity can cause growth retardation, hair loss and enlarged spleen and liver in its more severe form. Vitamin A overdose can also cause birth defects and has been linked to increased risk of bone fractures in some people. Vitamin StorageIf you want to get the most vitamins possible from your food, refrigerate fresh produce, and keep milk and grains away from strong light. Vitamins are easily destroyed and washed out during food preparation and storage. If you take vitamin supplements, store them at room temperature in a dry place that's free of moisture. Related Articles Too Much Vitamin A May Put Some Women at Risk for Hip Fractures Increased Antioxidant Intake May Lower Your Risk of Alzheimer's

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[Guest guest]

Wow Dana, that is great news!! I'm so happy chelation is going well

for you and for them!

I don't think I will do the high dose Vitamin A. I think I will do

what Andy and recommend. 1000 IU per pound for 4 months.

I am still wondering if it's okay to use natural Vitamin A or if I

need to order the mycelized version, do you know?

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> Subject: [ ] Vitamin A

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