A little Upset, need some info.

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Hi,

I was at a "mom get together" group a few days ago and I got into the conversation of vaccine. A young mother was there with her three or four month old who was vaccinated earlier that morning. I was telling her about the vaccine issue and this other ignorant mom jumped in. She started stating that the CDC said there isn't any link and that the only reason there is a rise in Autism is because the "medical community" lumped a whole bunch of disorders into the Autism spectrum. She actually said that there isn't any research out there that shows and evidence that there is a link between vaccines and Autism. I was letting her know that she was wrong but kept on debating me with wrong information and I stopped the debate before she kept spilling out a whole bunch of misinformation in front of this new mom. I will see them again in another week and half and I was planning on bringing some information for the new mom and this ignorant mom (you can't change stupid, so I'm hoping I can convince her ignorance). I want to debate her again with the proof in my hands. I had told her that I've been researching this for over two years and she came back with, "I've researched it too." She has no children with ASD thus far, so her creditability and motivation, in my opinion, are questionable. She does have a nine month old that I will be praying for. I will be asking her how long she's been researching and to back up her claims. I'm waiting for her to tell me that her pediatrician told her that. I recommended that she read EOH and she looked at me like I was from another planet.

I have all the information with research showing evidence of harm. I've made several copies and plan on presenting it to her and that new mom. I need to find out where she could of gotten the stupid info regarding that the reason for the rise in Autism is because "they" added a whole bunch of other disorders to the Autism spectrum. Can anyone point me into the right direction on how to refute that nonsense? I would like to have actual proof like the other stuff I will be showing her. I'm the type of parent that wants to give information with where the information came from. I always encourage people to not take my word or those of other people for it. To find out where the research came from and to verify it's authenticity. I want people to get all the information and make an inform decision. I would never force/encourage to vaccinate or not. Just look at the information and make your own decision.

Any additional information that you might find useful for this poor mom who probably got her information from a "god complex" doctor, no offense to other doctors in this group, would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

Vivian

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Thanks . I have Children with Starving Brains. I'll have to get the other one. I will get the CDs ready for them .

Re: A little Upset, need some info.

-OK, if you are willing to spend some money, here are two more books Ihighly recommend any new mom to read. Besides Evidence Of Harm, getDr. McCandless's book, Children With Starving Brains. Then get thebook, The Virus And The Vaccine. I recommend everyone in the world toread The VIrus and The Vaccine if they truely want to know the wholetruth about the making of vaccines and how our government has notonly kept things covered up about autism, but also about many othercontaminants in vaccines.And one other thing you could do, and this would be very easy, go toDANwebcast.com and download Wakefield onto audio CD and take itto the new mom to listen to. Also download Dr. Mumper, and Dr. Levison.They have now it to where you can download all of the doctors ontoaudio CD, and it is free.If you want to convence a new mother that she needs to at least dosome research before vaccinating, get her to listen to Barbara LoeFisher on the DANwebcast. She is on the 2006 spring conference. It isfree.-- In EOHarm , "Vivian Duckett" <impdegas@...> wrote:>> Hi,> > I was at a "mom get together" group a few days ago and I got intothe conversation of vaccine. A young mother was there with her threeor four month old who was vaccinated earlier that morning. I wastelling her about the vaccine issue and this other ignorant mom jumpedin. She started stating that the CDC said there isn't any link andthat the only reason there is a rise in Autism is because the "medicalcommunity" lumped a whole bunch of disorders into the Autism spectrum.She actually said that there isn't any research out there that showsand evidence that there is a link between vaccines and Autism. I wasletting her know that she was wrong but kept on debating me with wronginformation and I stopped the debate before she kept spilling out awhole bunch of misinformation in front of this new mom. I will seethem again in another week and half and I was planning on bringingsome information for the new mom and this ignorant mom (you can'tchange stupid, so I'm hoping I can convince her ignorance). I want todebate her again with the proof in my hands. I had told her that I'vebeen researching this for over two years and she came back with, "I'veresearched it too." She has no children with ASD thus far, so hercreditability and motivation, in my opinion, are questionable. Shedoes have a nine month old that I will be praying for. I will beasking her how long she's been researching and to back up her claims.I'm waiting for her to tell me that her pediatrician told her that. I recommended that she read EOH and she looked at me like I was fromanother planet.> > I have all the information with research showing evidence of harm. I've made several copies and plan on presenting it to her and that newmom. I need to find out where she could of gotten the stupid inforegarding that the reason for the rise in Autism is because "they"added a whole bunch of other disorders to the Autism spectrum. Cananyone point me into the right direction on how to refute thatnonsense? I would like to have actual proof like the other stuff Iwill be showing her. I'm the type of parent that wants to giveinformation with where the information came from. I always encouragepeople to not take my word or those of other people for it. To findout where the research came from and to verify it's authenticity. Iwant people to get all the information and make an inform decision. Iwould never force/encourage to vaccinate or not. Just look at theinformation and make your own decision.> > Any additional information that you might find useful for this poormom who probably got her information from a "god complex" doctor, nooffense to other doctors in this group, would be greatly appreciated.> > Thanks,> Vivian>