Guest guest Posted June 14, 2006 Report Share Posted June 14, 2006 and to think all those years they wre condeming Leary. Cregar <diana.cregar@...> wrote: -----Original Message-----From: Alerts [mailto:alerts@...]Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2006 6:22 PMdiana.cregar@...Subject: {Disarmed} Breaking News __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 14, 2006 Report Share Posted June 14, 2006 Lot of people mimicked Leary. Not many condemned him. Re: FW: Breaking News: interrogation techniques and to think all those years they wre condeming Leary. Cregar <diana.cregar@...> wrote: -----Original Message-----From: Alerts [mailto:alerts@...]Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2006 6:22 PMdiana.cregar@...Subject: {Disarmed} Breaking News __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 14, 2006 Report Share Posted June 14, 2006 seems that I remembr that the government jailed him(or at least tried to).HC <stratpat@...> wrote: Lot of people mimicked Leary. Not many condemned him. Re: FW: Breaking News: interrogation techniques and to think all those years they wre condeming Leary. Cregar <diana.cregar@...> wrote: -----Original Message-----From: Alerts [mailto:alerts@...]Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2006 6:22 PMdiana.cregar@...Subject: {Disarmed} Breaking News __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 14, 2006 Report Share Posted June 14, 2006 I wonder how many members of Congress used LSD when they were young? It could explain why Congress continues to fork over loads of tax dollars to support big Pharma. Maybe Pharma slips in subliminal suggestions during powerpoints? Re: FW: Breaking News: interrogation techniques and to think all those years they wre condeming Leary. Cregar <diana.cregar@...> wrote: -----Original Message-----From: Alerts [mailto:alerts@...]Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2006 6:22 PMdiana.cregar@...Subject: {Disarmed} Breaking News __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 14, 2006 Report Share Posted June 14, 2006 I wonder how many members of Congress used LSD when they were young? It could explain why Congress continues to fork over loads of tax dollars to support big Pharma. Maybe Pharma slips in subliminal suggestions during powerpoints? Re: FW: Breaking News: interrogation techniques and to think all those years they wre condeming Leary. Cregar <diana.cregar@...> wrote: -----Original Message-----From: Alerts [mailto:alerts@...]Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2006 6:22 PMdiana.cregar@...Subject: {Disarmed} Breaking News __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 15, 2006 Report Share Posted June 15, 2006 How about the number that are on meds today! Re: FW: Breaking News: interrogation techniques and to think all those years they wre condeming Leary. Cregar <diana.cregar@...> wrote: -----Original Message-----From: Alerts [mailto:alerts@...]Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2006 6:22 PMdiana.cregar@...Subject: {Disarmed} Breaking News __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 15, 2006 Report Share Posted June 15, 2006 Never a truer word spoken in jest.!! Take care nKerbob <robertbloch@...> wrote: I wonder how many members of Congress used LSD when they were young? It could explain why Congress continues to fork over loads of tax dollars to support big Pharma. Maybe Pharma slips in subliminal suggestions during powerpoints? Re: FW: Breaking News: interrogation techniques and to think all those years they wre condeming Leary. Cregar <diana.cregar@...> wrote: -----Original Message-----From: Alerts [mailto:alerts@...]Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2006 6:22 PMdiana.cregar@...Subject: {Disarmed} Breaking News __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 15, 2006 Report Share Posted June 15, 2006 Never a truer word spoken in jest.!! Take care nKerbob <robertbloch@...> wrote: I wonder how many members of Congress used LSD when they were young? It could explain why Congress continues to fork over loads of tax dollars to support big Pharma. Maybe Pharma slips in subliminal suggestions during powerpoints? Re: FW: Breaking News: interrogation techniques and to think all those years they wre condeming Leary. Cregar <diana.cregar@...> wrote: -----Original Message-----From: Alerts [mailto:alerts@...]Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2006 6:22 PMdiana.cregar@...Subject: {Disarmed} Breaking News __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 15, 2006 Report Share Posted June 15, 2006 I grew up in Concord,Mass back when Leary was the treating shrink who gave the prisoners at mci ,concord hallucinagenic drugs just to see how it would affect them . The state promptly got him out of there. R > {Disarmed} Breaking News > > > Alerts - - > Tuesday, June 13, 2006, 3:17 PM PDT > (AP) WASHINGTON - Defense officials say the Pentagon has dropped plans to keep some interrogation techniques secret by putting them in a classified section of a military manual. > > Breaking News Alerts may be sent before a story is available on . A story should be published shortly. Search for related news on . > > > > http://tinyurl.com/jyadm June 13, 2006 FORBES: Pentagon Won't Hide Interrogation Tactics > http://tinyurl.com/zzx4p June 13, 2006 Washington Post: Pentagon Won't Hide Interrogation Tactics > http://tinyurl.com/g7wqg June 13, 2006 ABC News: Pentagon Won't Hide Interrogation Tactics > > > http://tinyurl.com/bl9gw May 18, 2004 Dick Cheney, Rumsfeld and the Manchurian Candidate > > When you peek beneath the Manchurian Candidate's fascinating plotline, however, you learn that it is not " just a movie, " but is based upon actual cases of government-sponsored brainwashing, torture, Nazi collaboration, bizarre interrogation tactics, biological warfare and cover-ups. And though such an assessment sounds like paranoid lunacy, a quick study of CIA operations like MK-ULTRA (mind control), Operation ARTICHOKE (extreme interrogation) and Operation Paperclip (the Nazis' role in exporting both), along with their connection to the murder of Dr. Olson, reveals otherwise. > In 1950, the U.S. government established the first program to develop human mind control techniques. Known under a variety of codenames (most notably MK-ULTRA) throughout its 23 year history, this program was designed to exert such control, according to declassified documents, that an individual would do another's bidding, " against his will and even against such fundamental laws of nature such as self-preservation. " 25 years later, the Rockefeller Commission uncovered CIA plans for " programmed assassins " and said that MK-ULTRA led to American citizens being drugged, kidnapped and tortured on American soil. > Eli Lilly and MKULTRA and LSD http://tinyurl.com/nkha6 (search Eli Lilly) > MKULTRA > > http://leda.lycaeum.org/?ID=8763 But the CIA did not want to depend on a foreign company for supplies of a substance considered vital to American security interests. The Agency asked the Eli Lilly Company in Indianapolis to try to synthesize a batch of all-American acid. By mid-1954 Lilly had succeeded in breaking the secret formula held by Sandoz. " This is a closely guarded secret, " a CIA document declared, " and should not be mentioned generally. " Scientists as Lilly assured the CIA that " in a matter of months LSD would be available in tonnage quantities " . > [...] > The supersecret MK-ULTRA program was run by a relatively small unit within the CIA known as the Technical Services Staff (TSS). Originally established as a supplementary funding mechanism to the ARTICHOKE project, MK-ULTRA quickly grew into a mammoth undertaking that outflanked earlier mind control initiatives. For a while both the TSS and the Office of Security (which directed the ARTICHOKE project) were engaged in parallel LSD tests, and a heated rivalry developed between the two groups. Security officials were miffed because they had gotten into acid first and then this new clique started cutting in on what the ARTICHOKE crowd considered their rightful turf. > The internecine conflict grew to the point where the Office of security decided to have one of its people spy on the TSS. This set off a flurry of memos between the Security informant and his superiors, who were dismayed when they learned that Dr Sidney Gottlieb, the chemist who directed the MK-ULTRA program, had approved a plan to give acid to unwitting American citizens. The Office of Security had never attempted such a reckless gesture -- although it had its own idiosyncracies; ARTICHOKE operatives, for example, were attempting to have a hypnotized subject skill someone while in a trance. > Whereas the Office of Security utilized LSD as an interrogation weapon, Dr Gottlieb had other ideas about what to do with the drug. Because the effects of LSD were temporary (in contrast to the fatal nerve agents), Gottlieb saw important strategic advantages for its use in covert operations. For instance, a surreptitious dose of LSD might disrupt a person's thought process and cause him to act strangely or foolishly in public. A CIA document notes that administering LSD " to high officials would be a relatively simple matter and could have a significant effect at key meetings, speeches, etc. " But Gottlieb realized there was a considerable difference between testing LSD in a laboratory and using the drug in clandestine operations. In an effort to bridge the gap, he and his TSS colleagues initiated a series of in-house experiments designed to find out what would happen if LSD was given to someone in a " normal " life setting without advance warning. > Eli Lilly and Thimerosal http://tinyurl.com/jrqaq > > > __________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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