Re: Fwd: News Alert: New Vaccine Approved

[Guest guest]

Bummer, I'm too young for this one. Can someone alert me if they

approve a hang nail vaccine. On a serious note, hasn't there been

talk that the increase in shingles cases among the elderly could be

due to children receiving the chicken pox vaccine as infants? Did I

dream that??

Sue M.

[Guest guest]

Vaccine ingredients:

ZOSTAVAX* is a lyophilized preparation of the Oka/Merck strain of

live, attenuated varicella-zoster

virus (VZV). The virus was initially obtained from a child with

naturally-occurring varicella, then introduced

into human embryonic lung cell cultures, adapted to and propagated

in embryonic guinea pig cell cultures

and finally propagated in human diploid cell cultures (WI-38).

Further passage of the virus was performed

at Merck Research Laboratories (MRL) in human diploid cell cultures

(MRC-5). The cells, virus seeds,

virus bulks and bovine serum used in the manufacturing are all

tested to provide assurance that the final

product is free of adventitious agents. ZOSTAVAX, when reconstituted

as directed, is a sterile preparation

for subcutaneous administration. Each 0.65-mL dose contains a

minimum of 19,400 PFU (plaque-forming

units) of Oka/Merck strain of VZV when reconstituted and stored at

room temperature for up to

30 minutes. Each dose also contains 31.16 mg of sucrose, 15.58 mg of

hydrolyzed porcine gelatin,

3.99 mg of sodium chloride, 0.62 mg of monosodium L-glutamate, 0.57

mg of sodium phosphate dibasic,

0.10 mg of potassium phosphate monobasic, 0.10 mg of potassium

chloride; residual components of

MRC-5 cells including DNA and protein; and trace quantities of

neomycin and bovine calf serum.

[Guest guest]

In other words, each dose contains residual DNA and protein

originating from an aborted human fetus.

Wonderful.

I wonder how many people would roll up their sleeves knowing that

this is what they are putting in their arms? Trace material from an

abortion.

Reminds me of the Premarin story. Millions of women took this

hormone replacement therapy blindly based on Dr. recommendations.

How many of them would have said no thanks if they knew that

Premarin was derived from Pregnant (pre) Mares' (mar) Urine (in).

It's time to start reading labels...all of them!

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> Vaccine ingredients:

>

> ZOSTAVAX* is a lyophilized preparation of the Oka/Merck strain of

> live, attenuated varicella-zoster

> virus (VZV). The virus was initially obtained from a child with

> naturally-occurring varicella, then introduced

> into human embryonic lung cell cultures, adapted to and propagated

> in embryonic guinea pig cell cultures

> and finally propagated in human diploid cell cultures (WI-38).

> Further passage of the virus was performed

> at Merck Research Laboratories (MRL) in human diploid cell

cultures

> (MRC-5). The cells, virus seeds,

> virus bulks and bovine serum used in the manufacturing are all

> tested to provide assurance that the final

> product is free of adventitious agents. ZOSTAVAX, when

reconstituted

> as directed, is a sterile preparation

> for subcutaneous administration. Each 0.65-mL dose contains a

> minimum of 19,400 PFU (plaque-forming

> units) of Oka/Merck strain of VZV when reconstituted and stored at

> room temperature for up to

> 30 minutes. Each dose also contains 31.16 mg of sucrose, 15.58 mg

of

> hydrolyzed porcine gelatin,

>

> 3.99 mg of sodium chloride, 0.62 mg of monosodium L-glutamate,

0.57

> mg of sodium phosphate dibasic,

> 0.10 mg of potassium phosphate monobasic, 0.10 mg of potassium

> chloride; residual components of

> MRC-5 cells including DNA and protein; and trace quantities of

> neomycin and bovine calf serum.

>

[Guest guest]

I heard it was an increase in shingles cases among CHILDREN, unheard of

before.

Barb

Re: Fwd: News Alert: New Vaccine Approved

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> Bummer, I'm too young for this one. Can someone alert me if they

> approve a hang nail vaccine. On a serious note, hasn't there been

> talk that the increase in shingles cases among the elderly could be

> due to children receiving the chicken pox vaccine as infants? Did I

> dream that??

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> Sue M.

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[Guest guest]

>>>In other words, each dose contains residual DNA and protein >>>originating from an aborted human fetus.

Tissue rejection issues.

Re: Fwd: News Alert: New Vaccine Approved

In other words, each dose contains residual DNA and protein originating from an aborted human fetus. Wonderful. I wonder how many people would roll up their sleeves knowing that this is what they are putting in their arms? Trace material from an abortion. Reminds me of the Premarin story. Millions of women took this hormone replacement therapy blindly based on Dr. recommendations. How many of them would have said no thanks if they knew that Premarin was derived from Pregnant (pre) Mares' (mar) Urine (in). It's time to start reading labels...all of them!>> Vaccine ingredients: > > ZOSTAVAX* is a lyophilized preparation of the Oka/Merck strain of > live, attenuated varicella-zoster > virus (VZV). The virus was initially obtained from a child with > naturally-occurring varicella, then introduced > into human embryonic lung cell cultures, adapted to and propagated > in embryonic guinea pig cell cultures > and finally propagated in human diploid cell cultures (WI-38). > Further passage of the virus was performed > at Merck Research Laboratories (MRL) in human diploid cell cultures > (MRC-5). The cells, virus seeds, > virus bulks and bovine serum used in the manufacturing are all > tested to provide assurance that the final > product is free of adventitious agents. ZOSTAVAX, when reconstituted > as directed, is a sterile preparation > for subcutaneous administration. Each 0.65-mL dose contains a > minimum of 19,400 PFU (plaque-forming > units) of Oka/Merck strain of VZV when reconstituted and stored at > room temperature for up to > 30 minutes. Each dose also contains 31.16 mg of sucrose, 15.58 mg of > hydrolyzed porcine gelatin, > > 3.99 mg of sodium chloride, 0.62 mg of monosodium L-glutamate, 0.57 > mg of sodium phosphate dibasic, > 0.10 mg of potassium phosphate monobasic, 0.10 mg of potassium > chloride; residual components of > MRC-5 cells including DNA and protein; and trace quantities of > neomycin and bovine calf serum.>

[Guest guest]

Here's my question about the aborted fetuses used for vaccines: (see

below)So even if you are against abortion, why would you be upset

that they are using cells from 2 that occured over 35 years ago? At

least they were put to good use. As much as I am against vaccines,

not ALL vaccines are a bad thing. For example, they use these same

cells for Rabies shots. Yes, we should read labels on everything.

Diploid cells:

" WI-38 came from lung cells from a female fetus of 3-months

gestation and MRC-5 was developed from lung cells from a 14-week-old

male fetus. Both fetuses were intentionally aborted, but neither was

aborted for the purpose of obtaining diploid cells. (6-8). The fetal

tissues that eventually became WI-38 and the MRC-5 cell cultures

were removed from fetuses that were dead. The cellular biologists

who made the cell cultures did not induce the abortions.

These two cell strains have been growing under laboratory conditions

for more than 35 years.

The cells are merely the biological system in which the viruses are

grown. These cell strains do not and cannot form a complete organism

and do not constitute a potential human being. The cells reproduce

themselves, so there is no need to abort additional fetuses to

sustain the culture supply. Viruses are collected from the diploid

cell cultures and then processed further to produce the vaccine

itself. "

> >

> > Vaccine ingredients:

> >

> > ZOSTAVAX* is a lyophilized preparation of the Oka/Merck strain

of

> > live, attenuated varicella-zoster

> > virus (VZV). The virus was initially obtained from a child with

> > naturally-occurring varicella, then introduced

> > into human embryonic lung cell cultures, adapted to and

propagated

> > in embryonic guinea pig cell cultures

> > and finally propagated in human diploid cell cultures (WI-38).

> > Further passage of the virus was performed

> > at Merck Research Laboratories (MRL) in human diploid cell

> cultures

> > (MRC-5). The cells, virus seeds,

> > virus bulks and bovine serum used in the manufacturing are all

> > tested to provide assurance that the final

> > product is free of adventitious agents. ZOSTAVAX, when

> reconstituted

> > as directed, is a sterile preparation

> > for subcutaneous administration. Each 0.65-mL dose contains a

> > minimum of 19,400 PFU (plaque-forming

> > units) of Oka/Merck strain of VZV when reconstituted and stored

at

> > room temperature for up to

> > 30 minutes. Each dose also contains 31.16 mg of sucrose, 15.58

mg

> of

> > hydrolyzed porcine gelatin,

> >

> > 3.99 mg of sodium chloride, 0.62 mg of monosodium L-glutamate,

> 0.57

> > mg of sodium phosphate dibasic,

> > 0.10 mg of potassium phosphate monobasic, 0.10 mg of potassium

> > chloride; residual components of

> > MRC-5 cells including DNA and protein; and trace quantities of

> > neomycin and bovine calf serum.

> >

>

[Guest guest]

The Sanctity of Human Life.

> > >

> > > Vaccine ingredients:

> > >

> > > ZOSTAVAX* is a lyophilized preparation of the Oka/Merck strain

> of

> > > live, attenuated varicella-zoster

> > > virus (VZV). The virus was initially obtained from a child with

> > > naturally-occurring varicella, then introduced

> > > into human embryonic lung cell cultures, adapted to and

> propagated

> > > in embryonic guinea pig cell cultures

> > > and finally propagated in human diploid cell cultures (WI-38).

> > > Further passage of the virus was performed

> > > at Merck Research Laboratories (MRL) in human diploid cell

> > cultures

> > > (MRC-5). The cells, virus seeds,

> > > virus bulks and bovine serum used in the manufacturing are all

> > > tested to provide assurance that the final

> > > product is free of adventitious agents. ZOSTAVAX, when

> > reconstituted

> > > as directed, is a sterile preparation

> > > for subcutaneous administration. Each 0.65-mL dose contains a

> > > minimum of 19,400 PFU (plaque-forming

> > > units) of Oka/Merck strain of VZV when reconstituted and stored

> at

> > > room temperature for up to

> > > 30 minutes. Each dose also contains 31.16 mg of sucrose, 15.58

> mg

> > of

> > > hydrolyzed porcine gelatin,

> > >

> > > 3.99 mg of sodium chloride, 0.62 mg of monosodium L-glutamate,

> > 0.57

> > > mg of sodium phosphate dibasic,

> > > 0.10 mg of potassium phosphate monobasic, 0.10 mg of potassium

> > > chloride; residual components of

> > > MRC-5 cells including DNA and protein; and trace quantities of

> > > neomycin and bovine calf serum.

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

One of my issues with the use of human fetus cells is the complete

lack of disclosure and informed consent. I believe there should be

more common language used on package inserts and that the less

desirable or controversial facts about a drug or vaccines origins

should be readily accessible and understandable to a lay person.

Instead we have the aborted fetus origins of rubella vaccine and

chickenpox vaccine veiled carefully behind the use of mysterious

labels of RA27/3, WI-38, MRC-5. I believe we all have free will and

if someone chooses to knowingly inject these contents into

themselves, that is their choice and they are free to make it. Its

the fact that people generally have no idea what's in the shots

that's the issue with me. I do imagine more parents would not give

these particular shots to their kids if they knew what it contained.

I feel the same about use of the word " recombinant. " When I learned

that I allowed a genetically engineered virus to be injected into my

days old infant I was appalled and aghast. I stay away from those

products in my food choices and I choose to stay away from them in

medical products too. Others will openly and happily consume

genetically modified foods and vaccines and that is their choice. I

just choose differently.

My .02,

egran

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> > > Vaccine ingredients:

> > >

> > > ZOSTAVAX* is a lyophilized preparation of the Oka/Merck strain

> of

> > > live, attenuated varicella-zoster

> > > virus (VZV). The virus was initially obtained from a child

with

> > > naturally-occurring varicella, then introduced

> > > into human embryonic lung cell cultures, adapted to and

> propagated

> > > in embryonic guinea pig cell cultures

> > > and finally propagated in human diploid cell cultures (WI-38).

> > > Further passage of the virus was performed

> > > at Merck Research Laboratories (MRL) in human diploid cell

> > cultures

> > > (MRC-5). The cells, virus seeds,

> > > virus bulks and bovine serum used in the manufacturing are all

> > > tested to provide assurance that the final

> > > product is free of adventitious agents. ZOSTAVAX, when

> > reconstituted

> > > as directed, is a sterile preparation

> > > for subcutaneous administration. Each 0.65-mL dose contains a

> > > minimum of 19,400 PFU (plaque-forming

> > > units) of Oka/Merck strain of VZV when reconstituted and

stored

> at

> > > room temperature for up to

> > > 30 minutes. Each dose also contains 31.16 mg of sucrose, 15.58

> mg

> > of

> > > hydrolyzed porcine gelatin,

> > >

> > > 3.99 mg of sodium chloride, 0.62 mg of monosodium L-glutamate,

> > 0.57

> > > mg of sodium phosphate dibasic,

> > > 0.10 mg of potassium phosphate monobasic, 0.10 mg of potassium

> > > chloride; residual components of

> > > MRC-5 cells including DNA and protein; and trace quantities of

> > > neomycin and bovine calf serum.

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Okay, now I get where you are coming from on this. Because when I

looked up about the fetuses in vaccines I came upon these " god "

groups who were appaled and against the use of the aborted fetuses,

much in the same way we are about mercury, cyanide, etc. Their

websites were telling parents that the vaccines that are loaded with

mercury were safe (they actually used that word) because they didn't

have aborted fetuses in them. But overall I agree that they should

be labeled in layman's terms not medical jargon, even though I am in

the medical field.

Sally

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> > > > Vaccine ingredients:

> > > >

> > > > ZOSTAVAX* is a lyophilized preparation of the Oka/Merck

strain

> > of

> > > > live, attenuated varicella-zoster

> > > > virus (VZV). The virus was initially obtained from a child

> with

> > > > naturally-occurring varicella, then introduced

> > > > into human embryonic lung cell cultures, adapted to and

> > propagated

> > > > in embryonic guinea pig cell cultures

> > > > and finally propagated in human diploid cell cultures (WI-

38).

> > > > Further passage of the virus was performed

> > > > at Merck Research Laboratories (MRL) in human diploid cell

> > > cultures

> > > > (MRC-5). The cells, virus seeds,

> > > > virus bulks and bovine serum used in the manufacturing are

all

> > > > tested to provide assurance that the final

> > > > product is free of adventitious agents. ZOSTAVAX, when

> > > reconstituted

> > > > as directed, is a sterile preparation

> > > > for subcutaneous administration. Each 0.65-mL dose contains

a

> > > > minimum of 19,400 PFU (plaque-forming

> > > > units) of Oka/Merck strain of VZV when reconstituted and

> stored

> > at

> > > > room temperature for up to

> > > > 30 minutes. Each dose also contains 31.16 mg of sucrose,

15.58

> > mg

> > > of

> > > > hydrolyzed porcine gelatin,

> > > >

> > > > 3.99 mg of sodium chloride, 0.62 mg of monosodium L-

glutamate,

> > > 0.57

> > > > mg of sodium phosphate dibasic,

> > > > 0.10 mg of potassium phosphate monobasic, 0.10 mg of

potassium

> > > > chloride; residual components of

> > > > MRC-5 cells including DNA and protein; and trace quantities

of

> > > > neomycin and bovine calf serum.

> > > >

> > >

> >

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