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--Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2006 01:08:43 -0600

--From: Grant <horsefan19@...>

>>I WILL have results, just you wait! Etana ;-)

> Love the 'tude!! So ~ How's it going girlfriend?? G.

----------------Thanks for checking in with me and rooting for me!

DEJECTED --------->

I am on C1W11D7 and my results are VERY disappointing.

I have been very dejected this week, having trouble eating clean and

getting to the gym due to no results to spur me on. I had a minor

emotional fall on Friday, ate a whole bag of white cheddar popcorn and

some m & m's, and did NO UPBW, but recovered by calling it my free-day.

That was very GUILT-FREE feeling, to just replace Sunday's free-day,

and go on forward with life and BFL.

C1W11D7: I have lost about 4 lbs ONLY, and 1/2-1 " in my pants ONLY.

163 current weight, began 167; size 14 tight beginning, size 14

comfortable (almost) ending

I am 59. I have been constipated the whole time, normal for me, but not

good

I am committed to Challenge 2, and will be really looking to see what

can cause results. This is not unusual for me, to not get results (as a

former Weight-Watcher was-eating 1200 cal), but VERY discouraging.

FITDAY --------->

I will be posting my food on fitday (public) all this week, for any of

you who want to look

http://www.fitday.com/WebFit/PublicJournals.html?Owner=etanafinkler

What I did not do: --------->

water: probably only drank 4-6 oz most days, to be honest

vitamins that regulate my digestion: 1/2 dose most day instead of 1 dose

flax: did not try this

What got in the way: --------->

A. 1 week vacation in week 9: I did wonderfully that week; used

exertubes, walked HIIT, but didn't quite reach failure, ate really

correctly, perhaps a bit under calories

B. Dental surgery week 10 with recovery week 11:

4-day clear liquid fast of about 500 calories watered fruit juices,

followed by

5-days soft foods: talapia and boiled vegies, cottage cheese,

yogurt, yams

skipped 1 freeday week 10

resulted in 5 lb drop in weight, gained 3 lbs back the next 4 days

of resumed eating

I would have assumed (was hoping) this fasting week would be a jolt to

my system to drop a major whoosh

What I think is causing my lack of results: ---------> ??????

1. too many calories. I am probably eating 4-5 times the vegies

(brocolli, spinach, asparagus, brussel sprouts) as other dieters. I eat

about 3 cups salad and about 2 cups vegies a day, besides my carbs

2. too many dense carbs like wild/brown rice and white potatoes

3. too little cardio????? I wonder if on the days I do weights after

4pm, my metabolism is slow all day. I am wondering whether I should do

a 10 minute HIIT (2 sets of interval) every wieght-morning before work

at about 7:30am (M-W-F)? what do you think? I don't really want to do

this.... but to light the furnace for the day. Then on weight days, I

would do the weights at either 9;30am or noon. I generally do

Jazzercise 2x/week: Sat and Sun, in addition to HIIT T-Th-Sa, and

weights M-W-F

FOR END OF C1 AND FOR CHALLENGE 2 --------->

It's time to really incorporate some of these suggestions of :

ie, snacks that are protein and extremely light on carb

On 1/30/06, etanafinkler <etana.finkler01@...> wrote:

> wrote: Skwigg <skwigg@...>

> bumping the calories down just a little and the cardio up just a

> little rather than doing anything drastic to either one.

> You could choose some less calorie-dense carbs like berries,

> cantaloupe, and squash (as opposed to potatoes and rice). Or you could

> make a couple of your mid-meals protein only, like just a protein

> shake or just the lowfat string cheese. I wouldn't cut carbs out of

> your last meal/snack of the day

> I sometimes have just a piece of string cheese or just a low-carb

> ready-to-drink as one of my mid-meals. I usually make up the carbs

> You could also go with protein and veggies instead of protein

> and a carb, like string cheese and celery, or turkey slices with a

> baggie of raw carrots and broccoli.

> Tweak it around until you're seeing some results AND you're happy and

> comfortable with the adjustments. You don't want to make any changes

> that suck so horribly you can't keep them up.

> Anything you do has to be ENJOYABLE and MAINTAINABLE.......

---------> thanks, and feedback welcome.

BTW, I have been buddying with n, my sister, who is completing C2.

So I haven't been posting all that much here, 'cause she and I talk

daily, which has been wonderful. I think for today and forward through

C2, I will post here more, so that you are current with my progress.

thanks for listening, Etana

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Etana,

What a great attitude you have. Instead of saying " this didn't work,

I'm going to go eat what ever I can find and give up " you are saying,

" not the results I wanted...what things can I change? " I'm so proud

of you!

4 to six ouzes of water a day??!!?? Woman you HAVE to increase that.

No wonder you are constipated! Your kidneys are suffering, your skin

is suffering, your nails and hair are suffering, your liver thinks you

are about to die so it's not working at it's optimal (one of the

liver's main functions is helping your body burn stored fat for

energy, stress it and it is MUCH harder to loose body fat.)

Measure out how much water you are going to drink a day and be sure to

get it ALL in. After drinking so little water it will seem impossible

to get the standard 8-10 glasses, let alone the near-gallon that many

of us drink daily, so start out slowly,then add a little more each day.

Putting your food into fitday will probably be a good thing. Sometimes

you have to quanitfy things to see where the problems lie. I would

cut out the processed carbs before I cut back on the salad, unless you

are drenching your salad in dressing...that could be an issue.

Add either Udos or flax seed oil this time around. It will help with

irregularity, on top of the other benefits you already know. Also

look at what you are using for sups...if they have added iron it can

add to the constipation problem. I know I can't take vitamins with

iron for that reason.

Also, go to the bfl site and look at the woman that won for your age

group. She is a real inspiration. I would like to hear more of her

story, not just the short version on the site.

The women here are a great resourse, and help keep you honest...so

come here and tell us how you are doing.

Barbara

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Barbara, (From: alysd38 <no_reply >_

1. ----> I am drinking 32-40 oz (typo 3-4 oz), but will double that.

> I would cut out the processed carbs

2. ----> very little processed carbs... would you count organic sweet

potato or tomato soup as a processed carb? That is the worst I'm going

with processed carbs

>are drenching your salad in dressing...that could be an issue.

3. ----> 2 T lite italian either Ken's or Newman's ; sometimes 1T

instead of 2T

> Add either Udos or flax seed oil this time around.

4. ----> okay!

thanks, Etana

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> What a great attitude you have.  Instead of saying " this didn't work,

> I'm going to go eat what ever I can find and give up " you are saying,

> " not the results I wanted...what things can I change? "   I'm so proud

of you!

to quote one of our esteemed members, " what alternative do I have, sit

on the couch and get FAT? "

.... and hate myself again? NO WAY!

I'll never be 206 again.

Even at 163 size 14, I don't look all THAT bad <G>

What I like about BFL:

1. the RULES: no snacking has changed my days, has saved my 3pm craving

for sweets.

2. The short killer cardio; quickly done

3. Eating instead of NOT eating as a diet

4. small meals

5. guilt free recoveries from small binges, by switching my freeday

6. free days as a release from rules

7. protein/carb: I'm never really HUNGRY achy hungry.

8. HUNGER: I know know when I'm a little hungry; I NEVER knew that

9. FULL; I know when I ate a meal that was a little too big

10. Portion sizes, I am really learning fist/palm to recognize a

portion size, which gives me freedom in eating out.

thanks, Etana

C1-W11-D7

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OMG, you wrote paragraphs of analysis and tweaks and troubleshooting

ideas, but the answer to your whole problem is right here:

> water: probably only drank 4-6 oz most days, to be honest

If that's true, your body is probably totally unable to metabolize

fat. It doesn't matter how you time your cardio or how you adjust your

portions, because without water, your metabolism is roadkill. All of

the urea and waste products from the increased protein are staying in

you instead of being flushed away. Your liver and kidneys are probably

so gunked up that fat metabolism can't happen. What little water you

do get from your food, you'll be retaining. All of the sodium you

consume will be sticking around and helping to puff you up further.

Forget having a bowel movement. :-/

Do me a favor and don't change anything EXCEPT to drink an 8-10 oz

glass of water with each of your six meals. I'll bet you're down 3-5

pounds in the first week. If you want to step up those results even

further, add 1 tbsp of flax oil per day and 1 serving of high-fiber

cereal like All-Bran or Fiber One. Choose something with at least 10g

of fiber per serving. I like 1/3 cup of All-Bran Bran Buds:

1/3 cup = 70 cals, 24g carbs, 13g fiber, 2g protein, 1g fat

Have something like that with a little milk and a protein shake.

The combo of the water, the oil, and the fiber will change everything.

Be sure to check out this article on why water is critical to your results.

http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/animalpak21.htm

On 2/12/06, etanafinkler <etana.finkler01@...> wrote:

> and all,

>

> --Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2006 01:08:43 -0600

> --From: Grant <horsefan19@...>

>

> >>I WILL have results, just you wait! Etana ;-)

> > Love the 'tude!! So ~ How's it going girlfriend?? G.

> ----------------Thanks for checking in with me and rooting for me!

>

> DEJECTED --------->

> I am on C1W11D7 and my results are VERY disappointing.

> I have been very dejected this week, having trouble eating clean and

> getting to the gym due to no results to spur me on. I had a minor

> emotional fall on Friday, ate a whole bag of white cheddar popcorn and

> some m & m's, and did NO UPBW, but recovered by calling it my free-day.

> That was very GUILT-FREE feeling, to just replace Sunday's free-day,

> and go on forward with life and BFL.

>

> C1W11D7: I have lost about 4 lbs ONLY, and 1/2-1 " in my pants ONLY.

> 163 current weight, began 167; size 14 tight beginning, size 14

> comfortable (almost) ending

> I am 59. I have been constipated the whole time, normal for me, but not

> good

> I am committed to Challenge 2, and will be really looking to see what

> can cause results. This is not unusual for me, to not get results (as a

> former Weight-Watcher was-eating 1200 cal), but VERY discouraging.

>

> FITDAY --------->

> I will be posting my food on fitday (public) all this week, for any of

> you who want to look

> http://www.fitday.com/WebFit/PublicJournals.html?Owner=etanafinkler

>

> What I did not do: --------->

> water: probably only drank 4-6 oz most days, to be honest

> vitamins that regulate my digestion: 1/2 dose most day instead of 1 dose

> flax: did not try this

>

> What got in the way: --------->

> A. 1 week vacation in week 9: I did wonderfully that week; used

> exertubes, walked HIIT, but didn't quite reach failure, ate really

> correctly, perhaps a bit under calories

> B. Dental surgery week 10 with recovery week 11:

> 4-day clear liquid fast of about 500 calories watered fruit juices,

> followed by

> 5-days soft foods: talapia and boiled vegies, cottage cheese,

> yogurt, yams

> skipped 1 freeday week 10

> resulted in 5 lb drop in weight, gained 3 lbs back the next 4 days

> of resumed eating

> I would have assumed (was hoping) this fasting week would be a jolt to

> my system to drop a major whoosh

>

> What I think is causing my lack of results: ---------> ??????

> 1. too many calories. I am probably eating 4-5 times the vegies

> (brocolli, spinach, asparagus, brussel sprouts) as other dieters. I eat

> about 3 cups salad and about 2 cups vegies a day, besides my carbs

> 2. too many dense carbs like wild/brown rice and white potatoes

> 3. too little cardio????? I wonder if on the days I do weights after

> 4pm, my metabolism is slow all day. I am wondering whether I should do

> a 10 minute HIIT (2 sets of interval) every wieght-morning before work

> at about 7:30am (M-W-F)? what do you think? I don't really want to do

> this.... but to light the furnace for the day. Then on weight days, I

> would do the weights at either 9;30am or noon. I generally do

> Jazzercise 2x/week: Sat and Sun, in addition to HIIT T-Th-Sa, and

> weights M-W-F

>

>

> FOR END OF C1 AND FOR CHALLENGE 2 --------->

> It's time to really incorporate some of these suggestions of :

> ie, snacks that are protein and extremely light on carb

>

> On 1/30/06, etanafinkler <etana.finkler01@...> wrote:

> > wrote: Skwigg <skwigg@...>

> > bumping the calories down just a little and the cardio up just a

> > little rather than doing anything drastic to either one.

>

> > You could choose some less calorie-dense carbs like berries,

> > cantaloupe, and squash (as opposed to potatoes and rice). Or you could

> > make a couple of your mid-meals protein only, like just a protein

> > shake or just the lowfat string cheese. I wouldn't cut carbs out of

> > your last meal/snack of the day

>

> > I sometimes have just a piece of string cheese or just a low-carb

> > ready-to-drink as one of my mid-meals. I usually make up the carbs

> > You could also go with protein and veggies instead of protein

> > and a carb, like string cheese and celery, or turkey slices with a

> > baggie of raw carrots and broccoli.

>

> > Tweak it around until you're seeing some results AND you're happy and

> > comfortable with the adjustments. You don't want to make any changes

> > that suck so horribly you can't keep them up.

>

> > Anything you do has to be ENJOYABLE and MAINTAINABLE.......

>

> ---------> thanks, and feedback welcome.

> BTW, I have been buddying with n, my sister, who is completing C2.

> So I haven't been posting all that much here, 'cause she and I talk

> daily, which has been wonderful. I think for today and forward through

> C2, I will post here more, so that you are current with my progress.

>

> thanks for listening, Etana

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I am with you, Etana.

Each challenge is MY challenge.

I am making progess inside and out as the weeks go by.

I love your list of reasons why you like BFL. I agree!

Some BFL women get to all their goals on the first cycle.

Some get there in 2 or 3.

Some women stick with BFL for years before getting to their own idea

of personal " perfect " .

These links are to transformations that took over a year.

http://www.bodychangers.com/ymorgan_inter.shtml

http://www.bodychangers.com/spiver_inter.shtml

Thanks for posting your results, as they have inspired me to continue

full-steam-ahead.

I too am committed to this for LIFE.

We'll get there. We won't be the first up the mountain, but we'll get

there. This week my goals are water, water, water, and hitting my 10's.

M.

Age 51

> What I like about BFL:

> 1. the RULES: no snacking has changed my days, has saved my 3pm craving

> for sweets.

> 2. The short killer cardio; quickly done

> 3. Eating instead of NOT eating as a diet

> 4. small meals

> 5. guilt free recoveries from small binges, by switching my freeday

> 6. free days as a release from rules

> 7. protein/carb: I'm never really HUNGRY achy hungry.

> 8. HUNGER: I know know when I'm a little hungry; I NEVER knew that

> 9. FULL; I know when I ate a meal that was a little too big

> 10. Portion sizes, I am really learning fist/palm to recognize a

> portion size, which gives me freedom in eating out.

>

>

> thanks, Etana

> C1-W11-D7

>

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Sweet potatos are like the food of the gods...sweet and yummy, high in

beta caratine, and low-ish on the glycemic index.

Tomatoe soup...if you are not having this every day I would not worry

about it too much. Tomatoes are higher glycemic than you want on a

regular basis.

I thought you had said you were having pasta and stuff, my bad.

b.

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I too liked the fact that you are determined to stick with the BFL

lifestyle. I agree that maybe you should drink more water. I bought a

2.2L container from Walgreens and every day I fill it up and my goal

is to drink all the water. At the beginning, people used to try to

crack jokes about me and my " little personal water cooler " , but then I

would tell them that this is the MINIMUM amout of water that every

adult should drink a day. Are you making sure that you are drinking

your water? Well, that would shut them up. Now I fill up the bottle

twice a day and make sure I drink all of that. Set goal for your water

intake like you do for everything else. In addition, some extra cardio

may help out.

>

> Sweet potatos are like the food of the gods...sweet and yummy, high

in

> beta caratine, and low-ish on the glycemic index.

>

> Tomatoe soup...if you are not having this every day I would not worry

> about it too much. Tomatoes are higher glycemic than you want on a

> regular basis.

>

> I thought you had said you were having pasta and stuff, my bad.

>

> b.

>

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Are sweet potatoes & yams the same as far as nutrients?

alysd38 <no_reply > wrote: Sweet potatos are like the food of

the gods...sweet and yummy, high in

beta caratine, and low-ish on the glycemic index.

Tomatoe soup...if you are not having this every day I would not worry

about it too much. Tomatoes are higher glycemic than you want on a

regular basis.

I thought you had said you were having pasta and stuff, my bad.

b.

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If you can find genuine yams in the US then more power to you. Most

of what is sold as Yams are actually sweet potatos.

That being said, yes the stats are vertually the same, at least for

the things that we most look at. It is possible that yams have more

additional nutrients.

For yams I find:

Yams, 1 cup (125g) (raw, cubes)

Calories: 177

Protein: 2.3g

Carbohydrate: 41.8g

Total Fat: 0.25g

Fiber: 6.1g

For sweet potato I find:

Sweet potatos, 1 cup

Calories: 180

Protein: 4.0

Carbohydrate: 41.0

Total fat: 0

Fiber: 7

For more on yams:

http://www.whfoods.com/genpage.php?tname=foodspice & dbid=113

Barbara

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Thank you for the information and the web site it helped alot. ..

alysd38 <no_reply > wrote: If you can find genuine yams in the

US then more power to you. Most

of what is sold as Yams are actually sweet potatos.

That being said, yes the stats are vertually the same, at least for

the things that we most look at. It is possible that yams have more

additional nutrients.

For yams I find:

Yams, 1 cup (125g) (raw, cubes)

Calories: 177

Protein: 2.3g

Carbohydrate: 41.8g

Total Fat: 0.25g

Fiber: 6.1g

For sweet potato I find:

Sweet potatos, 1 cup

Calories: 180

Protein: 4.0

Carbohydrate: 41.0

Total fat: 0

Fiber: 7

For more on yams:

http://www.whfoods.com/genpage.php?tname=foodspice & dbid=113

Barbara

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