Guest guest Posted January 5, 2002 Report Share Posted January 5, 2002 peer review fitness myths > Supertrainers, > After the discussion on this list regarding myths, I have decided to put > together an article that I will add to my website. I would like to have you > all peer review it and point my inaccuracies. In addition, if you would like > to add some of your own, in the same format as below, I will give you full > credit and add it to the article. Here is what I have so far: > > Myth #1: > You can shape a muscle. > The Truth: > Your muscle shape is determined by genetics. You can make a muscle bigger, > but you cannot shape a muscle. In technical terms, the way that dendrites > innervate a muscle (in series), it is impossible to only contract a certain > part of the muscle. Therefore, the whole muscle contracts as a system. > > Myth #2: > If I lift weights I will become muscle bound! I usually hear this one from > women. > The Truth: > If it was so easy to become muscle bound, then why isn't everyone in the gym > muscle bound? It is not an easy feat to become muscle bound, and it usually > requires the use of anabolic steroids. The truth is that there is not better > way to become toned and leaner than using weights. So forget the aerobics > classes and lift weights. > I disagree with this one. Not the main " myth " part, but the part about " there is not a better way to become toned and leaner than using weights " . I see this stuff all the time in weights related newsgroups, discussion lists, etc. ly I don't think there is a best way to get toned (realizing that toned means visible musculature with low bf) and leaner. For lots of people, a combined program of running and swimming will be more enjoyable, keep the weight off, give the person a great physique, and be more interesting and fulfilling than weights. Running can allow one to view some great scenery, experience the runner's high,. keep weight off etc. Swimming, especially open ocean swimming, offers fantastic marine life, etc. So, while it is great when we, in the weights world, clap each other on the backs and think we have discovered " the true path " , I don't think weight training is a better solution, or the best. For becoming " toned and leaner " , there are a lot of ways to the same goal. In Hawaii, for example, bodysurfing (and I'm talking REAL waves, not knee slappers) is fantastic exercise. It promotes explosiveness, it is a full body exercise done with flippers (which you need to catch bigger waves, generally), it also promotes cardiovascular fitness, coordination, timing, there is great scenery in and outside the ocean, etc. So, let's not overstate the issue when it comes to weight training. Whitney Richtmyer Seattle, WA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2002 Report Share Posted January 5, 2002 >Myth #1: >You can shape a muscle. The Truth: Your muscle shape is determined by genetics. You can make a muscle bigger, but you cannot shape a muscle. In technical terms, the way that dendrites innervate a muscle (in series), it is impossible to only contract a certain part of the muscle. Therefore, the whole muscle contracts as a system. ** We discussed this in previous posts and I'm not sure but just to play the devil's advocate here are some reviews of material that suggest otherwise: Electromyographic data indicate that there is selective recruitment of different regions of a muscle that can be altered, depending on the type of exercise performed. Whether such differences in EMG activity ultimately lead to regional differences in muscle hypertrophy is an empirical question. Some research suggests such specificity in adaptations. argues that, " an individual muscle is more than just a collection of muscle fibers spanning the entire muscle belly with a single muscle–nerve interaction. Instead, a muscle can be divided into neuromuscular compartments, which are distinct regions of a muscle, each of which is innervated by an individual nerve branch and therefore contains motor unit territories with a unique set of characteristics. In other words, different portions of a muscle may be called into play depending on the task demands of the situation. " Even if full recruitment and activation of all fibers eventualy occurs during a given exercise as fatigue occurs, regional hypertrophy may still occur as different regions may be stimulated/fatigued to different degrees. This may explain some of the adaptation specificities seen in many studies. Another author argues similarly: " Specially grouped motor units may also be involved in movement- specific strength adaptations. Motor units in many upper body muscles are grouped as sub-populations or `functional compartments' based on the likelihood of their activation during a given contraction (Ter Haar Romeny et al., 1982; 1984; Theeuwen et al., 1994; Tonndorf & Hannam, 1994; Van Zuylen et al., 1988). Little research has described compartmentalisation of lower limb muscles although fibres of the gracilis (Schwarzacher, 1959), sartorius (Barrett, 1962; Schwarzacher, 1959) and the semitendinosus (Barrett, 1962) have been shown not to run the entire muscle length. This suggests that a similar `compartment-based' organisation to upper body muscles may be present in lower body muscles in humans. While the functional significance of compartments has not been studied extensively in humans, there has been considerable research on animal muscles(Chanaud et al., 1991; Pratt et al., 1991). Chanaud et al. (1991) showed that the cat biceps femoris and tensor fasciae latae were comprised of functional compartments with differential synaptic inputs. Also, Loeb et al. (1987) measured the EMG evoked by stimulation of the branches of the motor axon to the cat sartorius muscle and found that each compartment was selectively activated. Together, these two studies suggest that compartmentalised muscles may in fact be comprised of small, uniquely-activated musclets. Zuurbier and Huijing (1993) then discovered that fibres located in different regions of the rat gastrocnemius medialis reached their optimum (length at which maximum contractile force is produced) and slack (length at which no passive/elastic force is produced) lengths at different overall muscle lengths. This suggested that innervation of compartments may be dependent on fibre lengths, or at least the lengths of sarcomeres constituting the fibres. Indeed, Van Zuylen et al. (1988) also found that the recruitment of compartments within the human biceps brachii was dependent on the joint angle, and therefore the muscle length, at which the contraction was performed. " .... " Indeed motor units of some longer muscles are not randomly distributed throughout a muscle and are not equally likely to be recruited, but are grouped as sub-populations or `functional compartments'based on the likelihood of their activation during a given contraction (Segal, 1992). For example, the biceps brachii appears to contain a group of motor units that are readily recruited during arm flexion but a separate group that are readily recruited during forearm supination (Ter Haar Romeny et al., 1982; 1984;Theeuwen et al., 1994; Van Zuylen et al., 1988). Such compartmentalisation has also been shown in muscles such as the human masseter (Tonndorf & Hannam, 1994) and cat lateral gastrocnemius (English & Weeks, 1984). Further evidence that selective activation of compartments can increase thenumber of sarcomeres in a region of muscle has been provided by studies showing selective hypertrophy of certain regions of muscle. Narici et al.(1989) found that hypertrophy of the quadriceps was greater in vastus medialis and vastus intermedius than rectus femoris and vastus lateralis after isokinetic strength training. Furthermore, Housh et al. (1992) reported significant increases in vastus lateralis and vastus intermedius cross-sectional area at the mid-level and in rectus femoris across the entire muscle following isokinetic strength training. In the present study, there was evidence that hypertrophy of parts of vastus lateralis and rectus femoris differed depending on the training performed by subjects. Therefore, continued selective recruitment of muscles and sections of 188 muscles may result in selective hypertrophy of these regions. Given that muscle hypertrophy is at least partly attributable to increases in the number of sarcomeres (Alway et al., 1989; Gollnick et al., 1981; McDonnagh & Davies, 1984), increases in the number of those sarcomeres at optimum length might occur in certain regions of muscle with RT. Therefore, the recruitment of motor units within a muscle seems not only contingent on the `size principle' (Milner-Brown et al., 1973), type of contraction (Person & Kudina, 1970) and sensory input (Garnett & s, 1981; Grimby & Hannerz, 1974; Romanguére et al., 1992) but on their spatial location within the muscle. It is likely then that the recruitment of functional compartments is related to the length of sarcomeres in the muscle fibres. Van Zuylen et al. (1988) found that the recruitment of these compartments was dependent on the joint angle, and therefore the muscle length, at which a contraction was performed. Indeed, Herring et al. (1984) found that sarcomere lengths varied between different locations in the pig medial pterygoid, masseter and temporalis muscles. It is therefore possible that functional compartments are organised on the basis of the length-tension relationships of a fibre's constituent sarcomeres. Strength training using a particular movement pattern or joint angle could stimulate changes in sarcomere length within the functional compartment which was most readily recruited for a given contraction. " >Myth #4: Slow lifting is safer than fast lifting, or ballistic exercises are dangerous! The Truth: Most injuries when weight lifting are caused by improper form. Slow lifting can be just as dangerous as fast tempo lifting. Think about maxing out, is the weight moving fast or slow? Of course the weight is moving slow. Even jogging is very ballistic, and everything you do in life is ballistic. The truth is, ballistic lifting is required for certain types of adaptation and elicits a completely different neuromuscular response than slow lifting. ** Here is an argument against this position. In a slow controlled action, a movement may be continuously controlled by sensory input from the moving bodyparts with motor commands adjusted by comparing the current with intended position, as in the feedback servomechanism of a guided missile. On the other hand,in a ballistic action, a voluntary movement involves a largely preprogrammed command chunk, in which case it has to run its full course without the(or very little) possibility of current modification. This latter situation would be roughly like that of a projected missile after the trigger has been pulled. Given this scenario, should something go wrong, which of the two actions allow for greater modification? For example, when an anticipated load is unexpectedly decreased or increased, the ballistic commands cannot be reduced or cancelled to the same degree as slower commands. If this is accurate or a fair analogy, then arguably, all other things being equal, slow lifting is safer than fast lifting. [This sort of feedback safety control is based largely on the a theory of linearity of reflexive and other biological processses, which often have been shown to be described better by NLD (nonlinear dynamics) theory. Thus, unheralded 'catastrophes' with no warnings of something " going wrong " can easily happen during slow movement, as well, as is regularly reported clinically. We cannot state categorically than any given speed of activity is inherently safer or riskier than others. Mel Siff] Gus Karageorgos Toronto, Canada Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2002 Report Share Posted January 5, 2002 Whitney, I think we may have different definitions of muscle tone. I am using the definition from the ISSA text book which states: Muscle Tone - The degree of tension and vigor in a gross muscle. Muscle tone is increased through weight training, which results in a greater number of muscle fiber " firing " while at rest. Does anyone have any studies or information on fat loss with aerobics vs. resistance training? Another supertrainer wrote the following article on the subject which may be of some interest to the group: http://www.wsu.edu/~strength/hiit.htm Whitney thanks for taking the time to point out possible flaws. I don't want to do an article on myths and then create some of my own. What do you think of the response when using the above definition? Thanks, Bob Forney San Mateo, Ca > > > >I disagree with this one. Not the main " myth " part, but the part about > " there is not a better way to become toned and leaner than using weights " . > >I see this stuff all the time in weights related newsgroups, discussion >lists, etc. > >ly I don't think there is a best way to get toned (realizing that >toned >means visible musculature with low bf) and leaner. > >For lots of people, a combined program of running and swimming will be more >enjoyable, keep the weight off, give the person a great physique, and be >more interesting and fulfilling than weights. Running can allow one to view >some great scenery, experience the runner's high,. keep weight off etc. >Swimming, especially open ocean swimming, offers fantastic marine life, >etc. > >So, while it is great when we, in the weights world, clap each other on the >backs and think we have discovered " the true path " , I don't think weight >training is a better solution, or the best. For becoming " toned and >leaner " , there are a lot of ways to the same goal. In Hawaii, for example, >bodysurfing (and I'm talking REAL waves, not knee slappers) is fantastic >exercise. It promotes explosiveness, it is a full body exercise done with >flippers (which you need to catch bigger waves, generally), it also >promotes >cardiovascular fitness, coordination, timing, there is great scenery in and >outside the ocean, etc. > >So, let's not overstate the issue when it comes to weight training. > >Whitney Richtmyer >Seattle, WA > > > > _________________________________________________________________ Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2002 Report Share Posted January 5, 2002 From: Forney <bobage24@...> > Whitney- I think we may have different definitions of muscle tone. I am using the > definition from the ISSA text book which states: > > Muscle Tone - The degree of tension and vigor in a gross muscle. Muscle tone > is increased through weight training, which results in a greater number of > muscle fiber " firing " while at rest. > > Does anyone have any studies or information on fat loss with aerobics vs. > resistance training? Another supertrainer wrote the following article on the > subject which may be of some interest to the group: Making this into a aerobics vs. weights conflict is not the whole picture. There are lots of sports and activities that don't use weights, that are alternatives to weights. That was my point. Many are not endurance based at all, or would not fit the classic definition of aerobics. It is not an either/or thing. Whitney Richtmyer Seattle WA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2002 Report Share Posted January 8, 2002 > Myth #1: > You can shape a muscle. > The Truth: > Your muscle shape is determined by genetics. You can make a muscle bigger, but you cannot shape a muscle. In technical terms, the way that dendrites innervate a muscle (in series), it is impossible to only contract a certain part of the muscle. Therefore, the whole muscle contracts as a system. > Myth #2: <snip> This one doesn't sound right. For example: I notice when I do bicep curls on the preacher bench, I can really feel it right ion the peak of my bicep (esp. if I concentrate the movement there). So, it follows [in my layman's way of thinking anyway] that if I did this a lot, then I wopuld develop that part of the muscle. Or, am I just hitting a different muscle (since I dont really know how many muscles are right there anyway). Bob Mckee Atlanta GA USA Bobbler@... __________________________________________________ FREE voicemail, email, and fax...all in one place. Sign Up Now! http://www.onebox.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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