Re: Prof Glenn Gibson's Study

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Dear ,

Would you mind sending me the 2 pdf files? _ I should be interested to read them

Thanks,

Margaret

Prof Glenn Gibson's Study

Prof Gibson replied today. He sent me two pdf files that are a bit too big to paste into an e-mail, but basically they say that the ASD kids show a significantly higher incidence of Clostridium histolyticum in the faecal flora than in the healthy kidsI can't see any reason for all the ASD kids on the study to have higher than normal levels of Clostridium histolyticum, except that Clostridium histolyticum,seems to be part of the Tetanus group ( I am no expert on these things - perhaps someone on this list could comment on my DPT vaccination type thoughts! ) Miles.ps. this excerpt is from another web site.Everybody knows that tetanus is a deadly disease, due to an extremely powerful neurotoxin Clostridium tetani produces. Clostridium tetani, which lives in the gut, is normally controlled by the beneficial bacteria and does us no harm, because its toxin cannot get through the healthy gut wall. Unfortunately, children, which we are talking about, do not have a healthy gut wall. In gut dysbiosis this powerful neurotoxin may well get absorbed through the damaged gut lining and then cross the blood-brain barrier affecting child's mental development. Many other species of Clostridia (perfringens, novyi, septicum, histolyticum, sordelli, aerofoetidum, tertium, sporogenes, etc) produce toxins similar to tetanus toxin as well as many other toxins.__________ NOD32 1.1742 (20060906) Information __________This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system.http://www.eset.com

[Guest guest]

Dear ,

Would you mind sending me the 2 pdf files? _ I should be interested to read them

Thanks,

Margaret

Prof Glenn Gibson's Study

Prof Gibson replied today. He sent me two pdf files that are a bit too big to paste into an e-mail, but basically they say that the ASD kids show a significantly higher incidence of Clostridium histolyticum in the faecal flora than in the healthy kidsI can't see any reason for all the ASD kids on the study to have higher than normal levels of Clostridium histolyticum, except that Clostridium histolyticum,seems to be part of the Tetanus group ( I am no expert on these things - perhaps someone on this list could comment on my DPT vaccination type thoughts! ) Miles.ps. this excerpt is from another web site.Everybody knows that tetanus is a deadly disease, due to an extremely powerful neurotoxin Clostridium tetani produces. Clostridium tetani, which lives in the gut, is normally controlled by the beneficial bacteria and does us no harm, because its toxin cannot get through the healthy gut wall. Unfortunately, children, which we are talking about, do not have a healthy gut wall. In gut dysbiosis this powerful neurotoxin may well get absorbed through the damaged gut lining and then cross the blood-brain barrier affecting child's mental development. Many other species of Clostridia (perfringens, novyi, septicum, histolyticum, sordelli, aerofoetidum, tertium, sporogenes, etc) produce toxins similar to tetanus toxin as well as many other toxins.__________ NOD32 1.1742 (20060906) Information __________This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system.http://www.eset.com

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Hi ,

Does he advise a particular type of probiotic to counter the clostridium?

Miles wrote:

> Prof Gibson replied today. He sent me two pdf files that are a bit too

> big to paste into an e-mail, but basically they say that the ASD kids

> show a significantly higher incidence of Clostridium histolyticum in the

> faecal flora than in the healthy kids

>

> I can't see any reason for all the ASD kids on the study to have higher

> than normal levels of Clostridium histolyticum, except that Clostridium

> histolyticum, seems to be part of the Tetanus group ( I am no expert on

> these things - perhaps someone on this list could comment on my DPT

> vaccination type thoughts! )

>

> Miles.

>

> ps. this excerpt is from another web site.

>

> Everybody knows that tetanus is a deadly disease, due to an extremely

> powerful neurotoxin Clostridium tetani produces. Clostridium tetani,

> which lives in the gut, is normally controlled by the beneficial

> bacteria and does us no harm, because its toxin can

> not get through the healthy gut wall. Unfortunately, children, which we

> are talking about, do not have a healthy gut wall. In gut dysbiosis this

> powerful neurotoxin may well get absorbed through the damaged gut lining

> and then cross the blood-brain barrier affecting child's mental

> development. Many other species of Clostridia (perfringens, novyi,

> septicum, histolyticum, sordelli, aerofoetidum, tertium, sporogenes,

> etc) produce toxins similar to tetanus toxin as well as many other toxins.

>

>

[Guest guest]

This is from a medical dictionary:

Clostridium histolyticum

A bacterium found in wounds, where it induces necrosis (see

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Necrosis) of tissue by producing a

cytolytic exotoxin.

Natasa

>

> Prof Gibson replied today. He sent me two pdf files that are a bit too

> big to paste into an e-mail, but basically they say that the ASD kids

> show a significantly higher incidence of Clostridium histolyticum in

the

> faecal flora than in the healthy kids

>

> I can't see any reason for all the ASD kids on the study to have

higher

> than normal levels of Clostridium histolyticum, except that

Clostridium

> histolyticum,seems to be part of the Tetanus group ( I am no expert on

> these things - perhaps someone on this list could comment on my DPT

> vaccination type thoughts! )

>

> Miles.

>

> ps. this excerpt is from another web site.

>

> Everybody knows that tetanus is a deadly disease, due to an extremely

> powerful neurotoxin Clostridium tetani produces. Clostridium tetani,

> which lives in the gut, is normally controlled by the beneficial

> bacteria and does us no harm, because its toxin can

> not get through the healthy gut wall. Unfortunately, children, which

we

> are talking about, do not have a healthy gut wall. In gut dysbiosis

this

> powerful neurotoxin may well get absorbed through the damaged gut

lining

> and then cross the blood-brain barrier affecting child's mental

> development. Many other species of Clostridia (perfringens, novyi,

> septicum, histolyticum, sordelli, aerofoetidum, tertium, sporogenes,

> etc) produce toxins similar to tetanus toxin as well as many other

toxins.

>

[Guest guest]

,

I'd love it too!!

* Prof Glenn Gibson's Study>> Prof Gibson replied today. He sent me two pdf files that are a bit> too> big to paste into an e-mail, but basically they say that the ASD kids> show a significantly higher incidence of Clostridium histolyticum> in the> faecal flora than in the healthy kids>> I can't see any reason for all the ASD kids on the study to have> higher> than normal levels of Clostridium histolyticum, except that> Clostridium> histolyticum,seems to be part of the Tetanus group ( I am no> expert on> these things - perhaps someone on this list could comment on my DPT> vaccination type thoughts! )>> Miles.>> ps. this excerpt is from another web site.>> Everybody knows that tetanus is a deadly disease, due to an extremely> powerful neurotoxin Clostridium tetani produces. Clostridium tetani,> which lives in the gut, is normally controlled by the beneficial> bacteria and does us no harm, because its toxin can> not get through the healthy gut wall. Unfortunately, children,> which we> are talking about, do not have a healthy gut wall. In gut> dysbiosis this> powerful neurotoxin may well get absorbed through the damaged gut> lining> and then cross the blood-brain barrier affecting child's mental> development. Many other species of Clostridia (perfringens, novyi,> septicum, histolyticum, sordelli, aerofoetidum, tertium, sporogenes,> etc) produce toxins similar to tetanus toxin as well as many other> toxins.>>>> __________ NOD32 1.1742 (20060906) Information __________>> This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system.> http://www.eset.com>> > ---------------------------------------------------------->> No virus found in this incoming message.> Checked by AVG Free Edition.> Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.11.7/438 - Release Date: 9/5/06>

[Guest guest]

Hi Margaret.

Of course, I will send you the Gibson info today. Also, I can send it

to anyone else who would like it.

.

Margaret wrote:

> Dear ,

> Would you mind sending me the 2 pdf files? _ I should be interested to

> read them

> Thanks,

> Margaret

>

> * Prof Glenn Gibson's Study

>

> Prof Gibson replied today. He sent me two pdf files that are a bit

> too

> big to paste into an e-mail, but basically they say that the ASD kids

> show a significantly higher incidence of Clostridium histolyticum

> in the

> faecal flora than in the healthy kids

>

> I can't see any reason for all the ASD kids on the study to have

> higher

> than normal levels of Clostridium histolyticum, except that

> Clostridium

> histolyticum,seems to be part of the Tetanus group ( I am no

> expert on

> these things - perhaps someone on this list could comment on my DPT

> vaccination type thoughts! )

>

> Miles.

>

> ps. this excerpt is from another web site.

>

> Everybody knows that tetanus is a deadly disease, due to an extremely

> powerful neurotoxin Clostridium tetani produces. Clostridium tetani,

> which lives in the gut, is normally controlled by the beneficial

> bacteria and does us no harm, because its toxin can

> not get through the healthy gut wall. Unfortunately, children,

> which we

> are talking about, do not have a healthy gut wall. In gut

> dysbiosis this

> powerful neurotoxin may well get absorbed through the damaged gut

> lining

> and then cross the blood-brain barrier affecting child's mental

> development. Many other species of Clostridia (perfringens, novyi,

> septicum, histolyticum, sordelli, aerofoetidum, tertium, sporogenes,

> etc) produce toxins similar to tetanus toxin as well as many other

> toxins.

>

>

>

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Just got your file, ....This is REALLY interesting. Thank you for sending. Now where do we get testing done? Guess I'll see my very open alternative doc back in Germany. My daughter was very high in clostrida last time we checked but it didn't specify which strain....Her regular doc didn't think it was very problematic ..

* Prof Glenn Gibson's Study>> Prof Gibson replied today. He sent me two pdf files that are a bit> too> big to paste into an e-mail, but basically they say that the ASD kids> show a significantly higher incidence of Clostridium histolyticum> in the> faecal flora than in the healthy kids>> I can't see any reason for all the ASD kids on the study to have> higher> than normal levels of Clostridium histolyticum, except that> Clostridium> histolyticum,seems to be part of the Tetanus group ( I am no> expert on> these things - perhaps someone on this list could comment on my DPT> vaccination type thoughts! )>> Miles.>> ps. this excerpt is from another web site.>> Everybody knows that tetanus is a deadly disease, due to an extremely> powerful neurotoxin Clostridium tetani produces. Clostridium tetani,> which lives in the gut, is normally controlled by the beneficial> bacteria and does us no harm, because its toxin can> not get through the healthy gut wall. Unfortunately, children,> which we> are talking about, do not have a healthy gut wall. In gut> dysbiosis this> powerful neurotoxin may well get absorbed through the damaged gut> lining> and then cross the blood-brain barrier affecting child's mental> development. Many other species of Clostridia (perfringens, novyi,> septicum, histolyticum, sordelli, aerofoetidum, tertium, sporogenes,> etc) produce toxins similar to tetanus toxin as well as many other> toxins.>>>> __________ NOD32 1.1742 (20060906) Information __________>> This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system.> http://www.eset.com>> > ---------------------------------------------------------->> No virus found in this incoming message.> Checked by AVG Free Edition.> Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.11.7/438 - Release Date: 9/5/06>

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me too please , i would be very interested in reading this.

TIA Nikki

-- In Autism Treatment , Miles

<awex@...> wrote:

>

> Hi Margaret.

>

> Of course, I will send you the Gibson info today. Also, I can

send it

> to anyone else who would like it.

>

> .

>

> Margaret wrote:

> > Dear ,

> > Would you mind sending me the 2 pdf files? _ I should be

interested to

> > read them

> > Thanks,

> > Margaret

[Guest guest]

Hi .

Trouble with regular doctors is that they don't know anything about

autism ( or any vaccination induced immune system problems ).

Elaine Bolte pionered this approach a few years ago with her son. She

found out that Flagyl worked, but he regressed as soon as it was

stopped. Prof Gibson seems to be saying that if you introduce

prebiotics, it helps, but isn't the magic bullet. So even if your

daughter test positive what do you do about it?

Miles.

JULIE GRIFFITHS wrote:

> Just got your file, ....This is REALLY interesting. Thank you for

> sending. Now where do we get testing done? Guess I'll see my very open

> alternative doc back in Germany. My daughter was very high in

> clostrida last time we checked but it didn't specify which

> strain....Her regular doc didn't think it was very problematic ..

>

>

>

> * Prof Glenn Gibson's Study

> >

> > Prof Gibson replied today. He sent me two pdf files that are a bit

> > too

> > big to paste into an e-mail, but basically they say that the ASD

> kids

> > show a significantly higher incidence of Clostridium histolyticum

> > in the

> > faecal flora than in the healthy kids

> >

> > I can't see any reason for all the ASD kids on the study to have

> > higher

> > than normal levels of Clostridium histolyticum, except that

> > Clostridium

> > histolyticum,seems to be part of the Tetanus group ( I am no

> > expert on

> > these things - perhaps someone on this list could comment on my DPT

> > vaccination type thoughts! )

> >

> > Miles.

> >

> > ps. this excerpt is from another web site.

> >

> > Everybody knows that tetanus is a deadly disease, due to an

> extremely

> > powerful neurotoxin Clostridium tetani produces. Clostridium tetani,

> > which lives in the gut, is normally controlled by the beneficial

> > bacteria and does us no harm, because its toxin can

> > not get through the healthy gut wall. Unfortunately, children,

> > which we

> > are talking about, do not have a healthy gut wall. In gut

> > dysbiosis this

> > powerful neurotoxin may well get absorbed through the damaged gut

> > lining

> > and then cross the blood-brain barrier affecting child's mental

> > development. Many other species of Clostridia (perfringens, novyi,

> > septicum, histolyticum, sordelli, aerofoetidum, tertium, sporogenes,

> > etc) produce toxins similar to tetanus toxin as well as many other

> > toxins.

> >

> >

> >

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We didn't fight the clostridia at the time ( my daughter wasn't with my alternative doc at the time) but I am going to go after it now hammer and tong!!! I shall see what the alternative world does about it in Germany when I ma back there in October. There is a huge following in alternative over there so will keep you posted....my own alternative doc ( ex surgeon who got fed up of chopping out organs and the like) over there is great. First he tests major minerals and then funguses....He is also spearheads a major drive against mobile phones and electrosmog...

* Prof Glenn Gibson's Study> >> > Prof Gibson replied today. He sent me two pdf files that are a bit> > too> > big to paste into an e-mail, but basically they say that the ASD> kids> > show a significantly higher incidence of Clostridium histolyticum> > in the> > faecal flora than in the healthy kids> >> > I can't see any reason for all the ASD kids on the study to have> > higher> > than normal levels of Clostridium histolyticum, except that> > Clostridium> > histolyticum,seems to be part of the Tetanus group ( I am no> > expert on> > these things - perhaps someone on this list could comment on my DPT> > vaccination type thoughts! )> >> > Miles.> >> > ps. this excerpt is from another web site.> >> > Everybody knows that tetanus is a deadly disease, due to an> extremely> > powerful neurotoxin Clostridium tetani produces. Clostridium tetani,> > which lives in the gut, is normally controlled by the beneficial> > bacteria and does us no harm, because its toxin can> > not get through the healthy gut wall. Unfortunately, children,> > which we> > are talking about, do not have a healthy gut wall. In gut> > dysbiosis this> > powerful neurotoxin may well get absorbed through the damaged gut> > lining> > and then cross the blood-brain barrier affecting child's mental> > development. Many other species of Clostridia (perfringens, novyi,> > septicum, histolyticum, sordelli, aerofoetidum, tertium, sporogenes,> > etc) produce toxins similar to tetanus toxin as well as many other> > toxins.> >> >> >> > __________ NOD32 1.1742 (20060906) Information __________> >> > This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system.> > http://www.eset.com <http://www.eset.com>> >> >> > ----------------------------------------------------------> >> > No virus found in this incoming message.> > Checked by AVG Free Edition.> > Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.11.7/438 - Release Date:> 9/5/06> >>> > ---------------------------------------------------------->> No virus found in this incoming message.> Checked by AVG Free Edition.> Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.1/440 - Release Date: 9/6/06>