Guest guest Posted May 15, 2006 Report Share Posted May 15, 2006 In a message dated 15/05/2006 15:30:24 GMT Daylight Time, editorial.hillbury@... writes: I think it was Dr Heard who told to try and give the shot within 40 mins ofthe child going off to sleep. That is the time when the child is in thedeepest sleep. We have noticed that any later than 40 mins and he willwaken. >>>I concurr Mandi x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 15, 2006 Report Share Posted May 15, 2006 In a message dated 15/05/2006 15:30:24 GMT Daylight Time, editorial.hillbury@... writes: I think it was Dr Heard who told to try and give the shot within 40 mins ofthe child going off to sleep. That is the time when the child is in thedeepest sleep. We have noticed that any later than 40 mins and he willwaken. >>>I concurr Mandi x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 15, 2006 Report Share Posted May 15, 2006 Hi Margaret, Fwiw, we do at night with no side-effects. Make sure they are lying down or standing up – if you get bent legs it’d be more painfulL. We always give a treat afterwards – and get it as shallow and at an angle as possible – don’t hesitate and do it quickly – after a couple of times you’ll think nothing of it! Good luck and hope you get great results just like we did. Elaine MB12 -thanks! Thanks for your prompt replies and advice, Kay and Vicky! My husband is very, very nervous about this (although he's an insulin-dependent diabetic so should be used to needles, plus he's abroad half the time so I'll the be the one doing it!) but has agreed we shall give it a go. Watch this space! Any hints on how to inject when the child is awake, ie should they be sitting, lying or whatever, please let me know - Will is only 6 but tall and very strong so I coul do without any battles! Feel free to email me direct. TIA, Margaret Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 15, 2006 Report Share Posted May 15, 2006 Hi Margaret, Fwiw, we do at night with no side-effects. Make sure they are lying down or standing up – if you get bent legs it’d be more painfulL. We always give a treat afterwards – and get it as shallow and at an angle as possible – don’t hesitate and do it quickly – after a couple of times you’ll think nothing of it! Good luck and hope you get great results just like we did. Elaine MB12 -thanks! Thanks for your prompt replies and advice, Kay and Vicky! My husband is very, very nervous about this (although he's an insulin-dependent diabetic so should be used to needles, plus he's abroad half the time so I'll the be the one doing it!) but has agreed we shall give it a go. Watch this space! Any hints on how to inject when the child is awake, ie should they be sitting, lying or whatever, please let me know - Will is only 6 but tall and very strong so I coul do without any battles! Feel free to email me direct. TIA, Margaret Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 15, 2006 Report Share Posted May 15, 2006 I've not seen all the thread on this, so this may have been said or may be irrelevent, but there seems to be varying degrees of sensitivity to these injections. My son is very sensitive to them, even done in the recomended " short sharp shallow " manner. hopefully that won't be the case for you. We use emla cream, you can order it in packs of 5 tubes from the chemist. The packs come with special plasters for application. You apply it with the plaster to the area to be injected and it acts as an anaesthetic. We started off giving MB12 jabs in the day, but after a couple of times it became a real battle. So we give at night. We tried without emla while he was asleep, doing it at a shallow angle and very quickly. Always caused us huge problems. We now apply the emla cream, leave it an hour, then do the injecton and he doesn't even notice it. We've been doing MB12 about a year, have tried without emla a few times since, definately easier with it for us. >From: " simondavis " <simondavis@...> >Reply-Autism Treatment ><Autism Treatment > >Subject: RE: MB12 -thanks! >Date: Mon, 15 May 2006 14:29:55 +0100 > >Hi Margaret, > >Fwiw, we do at night with no side-effects. Make sure they are lying >down or standing up - if you get bent legs it'd be more painful:-(. >We always give a treat afterwards - and get it as shallow and at an >angle as possible - don't hesitate and do it quickly - after a couple of >times you'll think nothing of it! >Good luck and hope you get great results just like we did. > >Elaine > > MB12 -thanks! > >Thanks for your prompt replies and advice, Kay and Vicky! My husband is >very, very nervous about this (although he's an insulin-dependent >diabetic so should be used to needles, plus he's abroad half the time so >I'll the be the one doing it!) but has agreed we shall give it a go. >Watch this space! Any hints on how to inject when the child is awake, >ie should they be sitting, lying or whatever, please let me know - Will >is only 6 but tall and very strong so I coul do without any battles! >Feel free to email me direct. TIA, Margaret > > >DISCLAIMER >No information contained in this post is to be construed as medical >advice. If you need medical advice, please seek it from a suitably >qualified practitioner. > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 15, 2006 Report Share Posted May 15, 2006 I've not seen all the thread on this, so this may have been said or may be irrelevent, but there seems to be varying degrees of sensitivity to these injections. My son is very sensitive to them, even done in the recomended " short sharp shallow " manner. hopefully that won't be the case for you. We use emla cream, you can order it in packs of 5 tubes from the chemist. The packs come with special plasters for application. You apply it with the plaster to the area to be injected and it acts as an anaesthetic. We started off giving MB12 jabs in the day, but after a couple of times it became a real battle. So we give at night. We tried without emla while he was asleep, doing it at a shallow angle and very quickly. Always caused us huge problems. We now apply the emla cream, leave it an hour, then do the injecton and he doesn't even notice it. We've been doing MB12 about a year, have tried without emla a few times since, definately easier with it for us. >From: " simondavis " <simondavis@...> >Reply-Autism Treatment ><Autism Treatment > >Subject: RE: MB12 -thanks! >Date: Mon, 15 May 2006 14:29:55 +0100 > >Hi Margaret, > >Fwiw, we do at night with no side-effects. Make sure they are lying >down or standing up - if you get bent legs it'd be more painful:-(. >We always give a treat afterwards - and get it as shallow and at an >angle as possible - don't hesitate and do it quickly - after a couple of >times you'll think nothing of it! >Good luck and hope you get great results just like we did. > >Elaine > > MB12 -thanks! > >Thanks for your prompt replies and advice, Kay and Vicky! My husband is >very, very nervous about this (although he's an insulin-dependent >diabetic so should be used to needles, plus he's abroad half the time so >I'll the be the one doing it!) but has agreed we shall give it a go. >Watch this space! Any hints on how to inject when the child is awake, >ie should they be sitting, lying or whatever, please let me know - Will >is only 6 but tall and very strong so I coul do without any battles! >Feel free to email me direct. TIA, Margaret > > >DISCLAIMER >No information contained in this post is to be construed as medical >advice. If you need medical advice, please seek it from a suitably >qualified practitioner. > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 15, 2006 Report Share Posted May 15, 2006 I think it was Dr Heard who told to try and give the shot within 40 mins of the child going off to sleep. That is the time when the child is in the deepest sleep. We have noticed that any later than 40 mins and he will waken. Gillian On 15/5/06 15:12, " stuart finnes " <stuartfinnes1@...> wrote: > I've not seen all the thread on this, so this may have been said or may be > irrelevent, but there seems to be varying degrees of sensitivity to these > injections. My son is very sensitive to them, even done in the recomended > " short sharp shallow " manner. hopefully that won't be the case for you. > > We use emla cream, you can order it in packs of 5 tubes from the chemist. > The packs come with special plasters for application. You apply it with the > plaster to the area to be injected and it acts as an anaesthetic. > > We started off giving MB12 jabs in the day, but after a couple of times it > became a real battle. So we give at night. We tried without emla while he > was asleep, doing it at a shallow angle and very quickly. Always caused us > huge problems. > > We now apply the emla cream, leave it an hour, then do the injecton and he > doesn't even notice it. We've been doing MB12 about a year, have tried > without emla a few times since, definately easier with it for us. > > >> From: " simondavis " <simondavis@...> >> Reply-Autism Treatment >> <Autism Treatment > >> Subject: RE: MB12 -thanks! >> Date: Mon, 15 May 2006 14:29:55 +0100 >> >> Hi Margaret, >> >> Fwiw, we do at night with no side-effects. Make sure they are lying >> down or standing up - if you get bent legs it'd be more painful:-(. >> We always give a treat afterwards - and get it as shallow and at an >> angle as possible - don't hesitate and do it quickly - after a couple of >> times you'll think nothing of it! >> Good luck and hope you get great results just like we did. >> >> Elaine >> >> MB12 -thanks! >> >> Thanks for your prompt replies and advice, Kay and Vicky! My husband is >> very, very nervous about this (although he's an insulin-dependent >> diabetic so should be used to needles, plus he's abroad half the time so >> I'll the be the one doing it!) but has agreed we shall give it a go. >> Watch this space! Any hints on how to inject when the child is awake, >> ie should they be sitting, lying or whatever, please let me know - Will >> is only 6 but tall and very strong so I coul do without any battles! >> Feel free to email me direct. TIA, Margaret >> >> >> DISCLAIMER >> No information contained in this post is to be construed as medical >> advice. If you need medical advice, please seek it from a suitably >> qualified practitioner. >> >> >> >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 15, 2006 Report Share Posted May 15, 2006 I think it was Dr Heard who told to try and give the shot within 40 mins of the child going off to sleep. That is the time when the child is in the deepest sleep. We have noticed that any later than 40 mins and he will waken. Gillian On 15/5/06 15:12, " stuart finnes " <stuartfinnes1@...> wrote: > I've not seen all the thread on this, so this may have been said or may be > irrelevent, but there seems to be varying degrees of sensitivity to these > injections. My son is very sensitive to them, even done in the recomended > " short sharp shallow " manner. hopefully that won't be the case for you. > > We use emla cream, you can order it in packs of 5 tubes from the chemist. > The packs come with special plasters for application. You apply it with the > plaster to the area to be injected and it acts as an anaesthetic. > > We started off giving MB12 jabs in the day, but after a couple of times it > became a real battle. So we give at night. We tried without emla while he > was asleep, doing it at a shallow angle and very quickly. Always caused us > huge problems. > > We now apply the emla cream, leave it an hour, then do the injecton and he > doesn't even notice it. We've been doing MB12 about a year, have tried > without emla a few times since, definately easier with it for us. > > >> From: " simondavis " <simondavis@...> >> Reply-Autism Treatment >> <Autism Treatment > >> Subject: RE: MB12 -thanks! >> Date: Mon, 15 May 2006 14:29:55 +0100 >> >> Hi Margaret, >> >> Fwiw, we do at night with no side-effects. Make sure they are lying >> down or standing up - if you get bent legs it'd be more painful:-(. >> We always give a treat afterwards - and get it as shallow and at an >> angle as possible - don't hesitate and do it quickly - after a couple of >> times you'll think nothing of it! >> Good luck and hope you get great results just like we did. >> >> Elaine >> >> MB12 -thanks! >> >> Thanks for your prompt replies and advice, Kay and Vicky! My husband is >> very, very nervous about this (although he's an insulin-dependent >> diabetic so should be used to needles, plus he's abroad half the time so >> I'll the be the one doing it!) but has agreed we shall give it a go. >> Watch this space! Any hints on how to inject when the child is awake, >> ie should they be sitting, lying or whatever, please let me know - Will >> is only 6 but tall and very strong so I coul do without any battles! >> Feel free to email me direct. TIA, Margaret >> >> >> DISCLAIMER >> No information contained in this post is to be construed as medical >> advice. If you need medical advice, please seek it from a suitably >> qualified practitioner. >> >> >> >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 15, 2006 Report Share Posted May 15, 2006 Hi Margaret Louis is also tall (over 4 ft) and so strong, so I knew I couldn't pin him down in any way (not me on my own), so to begin with I used to get his favouite book of mazes out, tell him to pull down his pyjamas bottoms and get him to trace with his finger the way through the maze. This generally occupied him enough and if you can keep up a running commentary on what he is doing, I found that kept his mind off what you are doing behind him. Nowadays, Louis tells me which day is MB12 day and when I tell him its time, he just pulls down his bottoms. We did have one accident where he reached behind and knocked my hand, when I was just putting it in and this then grazed his skin and obviously hurt more than normal. He has never done it since. All the best Kay. MB12 -thanks! Thanks for your prompt replies and advice, Kay and Vicky! My husband is very, very nervous about this (although he's an insulin-dependent diabetic so should be used to needles, plus he's abroad half the time so I'll the be the one doing it!) but has agreed we shall give it a go. Watch this space! Any hints on how to inject when the child is awake, ie should they be sitting, lying or whatever, please let me know - Will is only 6 but tall and very strong so I coul do without any battles! Feel free to email me direct. TIA, Margaret Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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