Cholesterol levels

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Your lipid profile is ideal

Cholesterol/HDL ratio - 1.68 Below average CVD risk

HDL Percentage - 59.5% - well below average risk

LDL/HDL ratio - .68 - well below average risk

I do make the above statement with ONE caveat and that is assuming

that any of this goofy lipid profile junk is even worthwhile.

Meaning that it may all be meaningless, however in the event that it

has merit, by modern day medical standards your lipid profile is

pristine. Tell your doc she should only be so lucky to have such a

profile. ;-)

DMM

> Question for everyone. I had bloodwork done a few months

ago.....and asked

> my doc the other day what my cholesterol levels ended up being.

At first

> she said 210 total....and I was like 'rut ro'....then she said 125

HDL and

> 85 LDL...and that I was way below normal on that combination. I

looked up

> average HDL levels....women were between 50-60, men between 40-

50. I have

> never been one to watch my fat intake really (since I have never

really had

> weight problems I never fell into the 'eat less fat, lose weight'

genre). I

> also never watched what kind of fats I used....saturated, ect,

although I

> didn't eat very many trans fats and such unless I slipped up and

ate junk.

> When the bloodwork was done, I had been off carbs for about 3-4

months...was

> eating a ton of cheese, butter, olive oil, ect. I am eating even

more

> saturated fats since that bloodwork was last done....heavy creams,

whole

> milk, things like that have been added to my diet. I think I may

have my

> bloodwork run again in another 6 months or so...see where I am

standing

> again.

>

> So my question is this.....does everyone here have similar high

HDL levels

> after NT'ing for awhile or just eating the higher fat diets? Just

curious.

> Friends and Family always gripes at me saying eating what I do is

going to

> end up killing me....but so far I don't see any evidence pointing

that

> direction. I think the direction my bloodwork is pointing is a

reflection

> of this...but curious if other people have seen the same results.

>

> Thanks!!!

>

>

>

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<any of this goofy lipid profile junk is even worthwhile>

I would have to say that I really don't pay attention too much to my blood

profiles (I didn't check my levels until 3 months after it was run if that

says anything), but at the same time they seem to mean a lot to the people

around me. My PCP is not thrilled about my diet choices...she would rather

me go low fat (ugh). My friends and family look at me like I have 3 heads,

ect. My DH just sighs and thinks it is a passing phase. While I am doing

this lifestyle change for my own benefits, convincing my DH to join in with

me, convincing my doc that this is the right path for me, and convincing a

family member or two to join in to help their medical problems would be

great. Going solo on an endeavor is difficult enough....going solo with

everyone around you calling you crazy doesn't help. So I guess I grasp at

any good news I can until my physical medical problems start subsiding and I

can point to them as well.

I spent the weekend learning how to make several things....fresh butter,

kefir, whey, beet kvass, and a few other things. I had to choose a time

with the DH is out of town...it is quieter that way. I am sure when he

comes home tonight I will get the 'what the heck is this' comments right

away. He doesn't tell me NOT to do things, but it will take awhile for him

to come around. Took him about 6 months to come around on raw feeding of

the animals.

Thanks!

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When I got my bloodwork done it was way high and this is what finally

helped me.

http://www.westonaprice.org/askdoctor/ask_cholesterol.html

Hope this helps,

~Del

> Question for everyone. I had bloodwork done a few months

ago.....and asked

> my doc the other day what my cholesterol levels ended up being. At

first

> she said 210 total....and I was like 'rut ro'....then she said 125

HDL and

> 85 LDL...and that I was way below normal on that combination. I

looked up

> average HDL levels....women were between 50-60, men between 40-50.

I have

> never been one to watch my fat intake really (since I have never

really had

> weight problems I never fell into the 'eat less fat, lose weight'

genre). I

> also never watched what kind of fats I used....saturated, ect,

although I

> didn't eat very many trans fats and such unless I slipped up and

ate junk.

> When the bloodwork was done, I had been off carbs for about 3-4

months...was

> eating a ton of cheese, butter, olive oil, ect. I am eating even

more

> saturated fats since that bloodwork was last done....heavy creams,

whole

> milk, things like that have been added to my diet. I think I may

have my

> bloodwork run again in another 6 months or so...see where I am

standing

> again.

>

> So my question is this.....does everyone here have similar high HDL

levels

> after NT'ing for awhile or just eating the higher fat diets? Just

curious.

> Friends and Family always gripes at me saying eating what I do is

going to

> end up killing me....but so far I don't see any evidence pointing

that

> direction. I think the direction my bloodwork is pointing is a

reflection

> of this...but curious if other people have seen the same results.

>

> Thanks!!!

>

>

>

> _________________________________________________________________

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Well n you now have all the " ammo " you'll ever need.

Next time a well meaning friend or family member wants to

give you a hard time just pull out your lipid profile and

say " hey what's your look like? " ;-)

Keep up the good work.

> <any of this goofy lipid profile junk is even worthwhile>

>

> I would have to say that I really don't pay attention too much to

my blood

> profiles (I didn't check my levels until 3 months after it was run

if that

> says anything), but at the same time they seem to mean a lot to

the people

> around me. My PCP is not thrilled about my diet choices...she

would rather

> me go low fat (ugh). My friends and family look at me like I have

3 heads,

> ect. My DH just sighs and thinks it is a passing phase. While I

am doing

> this lifestyle change for my own benefits, convincing my DH to

join in with

> me, convincing my doc that this is the right path for me, and

convincing a

> family member or two to join in to help their medical problems

would be

> great. Going solo on an endeavor is difficult enough....going

solo with

> everyone around you calling you crazy doesn't help. So I guess I

grasp at

> any good news I can until my physical medical problems start

subsiding and I

> can point to them as well.

>

> I spent the weekend learning how to make several things....fresh

butter,

> kefir, whey, beet kvass, and a few other things. I had to choose

a time

> with the DH is out of town...it is quieter that way. I am sure

when he

> comes home tonight I will get the 'what the heck is this' comments

right

> away. He doesn't tell me NOT to do things, but it will take

awhile for him

> to come around. Took him about 6 months to come around on raw

feeding of

> the animals.

>

> Thanks!

>

>

>

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From: " Hawbaker " <peaceflmeadow@...>

> Going solo on an endeavor is difficult enough....going solo with

> everyone around you calling you crazy doesn't help.

In my experience, that's a pretty good sign that you're on the right

path.

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>Going solo on an endeavor is difficult enough....going solo with

>everyone around you calling you crazy doesn't help.

In my experience, that's a pretty good sign that you're on the right

path. >

Good way to look at it! Going mainstream has never been my forte anyways.

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Recently I went for a full body scan at one of the open MRI places. For

$600 they did a full 3D body scan and looked at every organ and bone in my

body for abnormalities and tumours. Part of that they check plaque

build-up in the arteries. It is a visual test, you can actually see the

plaque in your arteries. They are able to calculate total % of blockage

and based on age and statistics your chances of having a problem in the

future. I came out with " %0 to %5 " catagory, the doctor said " whatever

kills you it won't be a heart attack " .

My total cholesterol has always been very high near 300, HDL very high

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Make sure that you had nil by mouth before a cholesterol test - things like

caffeine, etc skew the results and can make it seem like you may have high

levels when you really don't.

For a book on how to manage health with nutrition pick up The Food Doctor by

Vicki Edgson - they are London based and great, Vicki is my nutritionist (no

longer with Food Doctor, but still great in private practice).

- Donna from London

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That's what I figured, but wanted to check. If this is common, I would imagine

that lots of people are getting lots of bad advice from doctors by focusing so

much still on LDL and total cholesterol.

Bill

>

> In a message dated 6/12/03 2:44:16 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

> jonathang@... writes:

>

> > Many years ago when i was vegetarian (and drinking a lot of milk) and

> > getting holes in my teeth and very fatigued, my total cholesterol was

> > something like 140. Doctors were happy. Now of course I feel much

> > more healthy but test was 239 (162 LDL, 55 HDL). And the advice nurse

> > is telling me to use olive oil blah blah blah.

>

> Sounds like your symptoms or lack thereof tell it all. The editorial opinion

> expressed in Wise Traditions is that they're irrelevant.

>

> chris

>

>

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