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iel <nmuss77@...> wrote:

> I made it up yesterday.........at the moment the almond is very

prevalent...... will see how it develops.

janita

The almond in my has started to mellow out in mine. The citrus and

clove is starting to pop out. I'm only on day 3 and its still very

cloudy too.

iel

Hi iel

Did you dilute? I have placed mine so far in 7.5ml org alcohol...... it is

sitting in a green 10ml bottle at present so I havn't checked for cloudiness.

Janita.....

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crystal <crystals@...> wrote:

Can anyone tell me if one can use Rum for perfume instead of 200 proof grain

alcohol? It's 150 proof.

thanks

Poh Yee

greetings Poh Yee and NPers,

i have used rum for resin and tree based blends. it has a distinc aroma

which sometimes blends well. experiment...

i also have used cane alcohol which was purchased for me in mexico.

cheers,

crystal

That would be interesting to smell...... Doesn't Rum contain juniper berry or am

I thinking of something else? Rum certainly has it's own aroma. What a lateral

thought for resins........ excellent crystal......Did you find the resin

absorbed ok with the rum? How did you find it blended with your other carrier?

With every good wish

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Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2006 8:09 AM

Subject: Re: Lily Milk

That would be interesting to smell. . . . Doesn't Rum contain juniper berry

or am I thinking of something else? Rum certainly has it's own aroma. What a

lateral thought for resins........ excellent crystal......Did you find the

resin absorbed ok with the rum? How did you find it blended with your other

carrier?

With every good wish

Janita haan

Janita, it's gin with the juniper berry . . . Somebody mentioned Jeanne

Rose, who is an expert in all things distilled, and who helped me discover

local distilleries and a lovely Oregon gin the last time she visited. Just

as it was she who first introduced me to Alchemical Solutions in Oregon some

time back. A reminder to not forget to look in your own backyard sometimes

for things you might think might be found only at a distance.

It's interesting to compare odor qualities using different alcohols and

sometimes quite surprising. We always test synergies or single notes with

all the available alcohol, invariably they are going to smell different in

grain alcohol than grape . . . And certainly they would smell different in

rum than gin. Not that one is better than the other, just more pleasing

depending on the formula, circumstance as well as individual taste. This is

another good reason to remind ourselves to keep good records of experiments.

Be well,

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  • 1 month later...

iel...... hi.. happy holidays.

Was wondering how your Lily milk is progressing.?

I always have white lilies here at chrimmus and was just picking up and

inhaled their perfume and remembered. I Took it out of my handbag where I have

been carrying it around with me...........it has been a few weeks now.... I

breathed in the real plant and then my bottle.

Well, the almond is still there but not so pronounced and all the elements

have begun to combine which is rather exciting and I can begin to define....dare

I say... something lilylike ....... not there yet and it may need augmenting or

nuanced with something but don't know what .... but it is looking promising.....

how about yours?

Janita

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and I had picked up on a soapy note and forgot about this..... till just looked

at your post notes...maybe this would work better in soap...after all... did the

davana produce that soapy note?

what do you think?

Janita

Yes there is that aspect to the blend. My sniffer interprets your " soapy " as

" milky " . Its probably the almond and citrus at work. Both the geranium and

davana blends have this 'feel' to it. I wonder what ylang-ylang would be like

for the top note instead?

iel

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iel <nmuss77@...> wrote: and I had picked up on a soapy note and

forgot about this..... till just looked at your post notes...maybe this would

work better in soap...after all... did the davana produce that soapy note?

what do you think?

Janita

Yes there is that aspect to the blend. My sniffer interprets your " soapy " as

" milky " . Its probably the almond and citrus at work. Both the geranium and

davana blends have this 'feel' to it. I wonder what ylang-ylang would be like

for the top note instead?

iel

Funny I was thinking the same thing...... synchronicity! but isn't it a heart

note. I would have to see how it would interplay with the geranium.as a lily

note..hmm don't know... the lemon is def there... can smell patchouli on the dry

down.. Could try.... I would use the extra rather than the others more refined

aroma and again I would lean for a dilution ....yes it poss could work...it

would have to be expertly applied tho.... and I am not convinced will put my

thinking cap on... I like the fact the almond gives it a round overall feel to

it ... I wonder if it is the geranium and almond rather than citrus and

almond..that is giving the soapy/milky note.as the citrus tends to float where

the geranium is steady..and the almond gives the body..I am going to give it a

bit more time.... I would like to see a touch of pink pepper too for the top

note to add to the clove..... as I mentioned perhaps tinctured rather than

actual whole drops. The almond is way way down in the

scheme of things....but def adds body. interesting. I will stick my nose in

the real thing again and make some notes....

Janita

ps... also what lily are we going for? do we want to try for different ones? I

tend to choose the white ...... from the florists as in winter...... expecting

heavy snowfall in the early hours!! Stocked up on organic fairtrade cocoa and

looking forward to bedding in !! :-) and sledging !!!!

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  • 6 months later...

>

> iel Hi hi.....

>

> I was wondering how your doppelganger of lily is coming on ?

> Mine is strong and I wonder to myself that it might benefit now

with a touch of dilution and maybe something else.... as with the

fresh I can smell something else..

>

> how about you?

>

> Janita

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Hi Janita

I had to go find the bottle, as I forgot to lable it. Thank goodness

there were only a few (less than 6) to sort out. I've chastised

myself and finished labling them! Oh my, yes it has turned out very

potent indeed! I can bearly distinguish the almond extract from the

other components now, however I can pick out the clove and bergamot.

It does smell 'cheap' to my nose.

I've tinctured some of Ruth's rose concrete, so maybe I'll make

another blend and substitute the rose for the geranium and neroli for

the petitgrain. Something else...hmmm. A dash of pepper? or jasmine?

iel

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Hi Janita

I Oh my, yes it has turned out very

potent indeed!

It does smell 'cheap' to my nose.

I've tinctured some of Ruth's rose concrete, so maybe I'll make

another blend and substitute the rose for the geranium and neroli for

the petitgrain. Something else...hmmm. A dash of pepper? or jasmine?

iel

Hi iel

I can still smell the almond in mine...but didn't you start yours earlier ? .

.. which geranium did you use? I am def going for dilution and then adding

something.... not sure what. yet.... my lilies are beautiful and a good

reference point.... nose comparitive study lol.....

Janita

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substitute the rose for the geranium and neroli for

the petitgrain. Something else...hmmm. A dash of pepper? or jasmine?

iel

Hi iel

II am def going for dilution and then adding something.... not sure what.

yet.... my lilies are beautiful and a good reference point.... nose comparitive

study lol.....

Janita

Hi iel again <g>

Ok no time like the present.... I have gone and added tuberose....I still

think it will need diluting and possibly it may need a touch of orris tincture

for that powdery note.... but not sure..... going to leave it for the

present..... to let it meld.... will check again tomorrow... this is fun...

Janita

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> Ok no time like the present.... I have gone and added

tuberose....I still think it will need diluting and possibly it may

need a touch of orris tincture for that powdery note.... but not

sure..... going to leave it for the present..... to let it meld....

will check again tomorrow... this is fun...

> Janita

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I'm going to try adding tincture of jasmine grandi and black pepper EO!

Lets hope I can dose it correctly without a muddy mess!

iel

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iel <nmuss77@...> wrote:

> Ok no time like the present.... I have gone and added

tuberose

> Janita

>

I'm going to try adding tincture of jasmine grandi and black pepper EO!

iel

Well depending on the type of lily all these additions should prove mighty

interestin'

I am going for not candidum that is for another time and more research

first.... this is for the tiger lily it is honouring for my mom and pop

especially at this time... and you iel?

Janita

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